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Ratings News - 1st November 2014

1 Nov 2014

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Today's Early Overnight Ratings

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148 comments:

  1. Wow Constantine. That's bad. Another meal for the cancellation bear there...

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  2. Revenge and OUAT1 November 2014 at 15:31

    Cristela is steady or? But a 1.0 is not good :(

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  3. Grimm at 1.1 and Constantine at 09... ouch!

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  4. Here are the 1/2 hr breakdowns

    8:00 p.m.

    ABC – Last Man Standing
    Viewers: 6.55 million (32), A18-49: 1.2/ 6 (#1t)

    CBS – The Amazing Race
    Viewers: 5.89 million (#3), A18-49: 1.0/ 5 (#3)

    NBC – Dateline
    Viewers: 6.66 million (#1), A18-49: 1.2/ 6 (#1t)

    Fox – Utopia
    Viewers: 1.76 million (#4), A18-49: 0.6/ 3 (#4)

    CW – Whose Line is it Anyway? (R)
    Viewers: 1.13 million (#5), A18-49: 0.4/ 2 (#5)

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    8:30 p.m.

    ABC – Cristela
    Viewers: 5.42 million (#3), A18-49: 1.0/ 4 (#3)

    CBS – The Amazing Race
    Viewers: 5.99 million (#2), A18-49: 1.1/ 5 (#2)

    NBC – Dateline
    Viewers: 7.86 million (#1), A18-49: 1.4/ 6 (#1)

    Fox – Utopia
    Viewers: 1.36 million (#4), A18-49: 0.5/ 2 (#4)

    CW – Whose Line is it Anyway? (R)
    Viewers: 1.16 million (#5), A18-49: 0.4/ 1 (#5)

    ———-

    9:00 p.m.

    ABC – Shark Tank
    Viewers: 7.47 million (#2), A18-49: 1.9/ 7 (#1)

    CBS – Hawaii Five-O
    Viewers: 9.25 million (#1), A18-49: 1.1/ 4 (#3)

    NBC – Grimm
    Viewers: 4.85 million (#3), A18-49: 1.2/ 5 (#2)

    Fox – Gotham (R)
    Viewers: 1.20 million (#4), A18-49: 0.3/ 1 (#4t)

    CW – America’s Next Top Model
    Viewers: 856,000 (#5), A18-49: 0.3/ 1 (#4t)

    ———-

    9:30 p.m.

    ABC – Shark Tank
    Viewers: 7.77 million (#2), A18-49: 2.0/ 8 (#1)

    CBS – Hawaii Five-O
    Viewers: 9.69 million (#1), A18-49: 1.1/ 4 (#2t)

    NBC – Grimm
    Viewers: 4.23 million (#3), A18-49: 1.1/ 4 (#2t)

    Fox – Gotham (R)
    Viewers: 1.25 million (#4), A18-49: 0.3/ 1 (#4)

    CW – America’s Next Top Model
    Viewers: 768,000 (#5), A18-49: 0.2/ 1 (#5)

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    10:00 p.m.

    ABC –20/20
    Viewers: 6.37 million (#2), A18-49: 1.5/ 6 (#1)

    CBS – Blue Bloods
    Viewers: 11.15 million (#1), A18-49: 1.1/ 4 (#2)

    NBC – Constantine
    Viewers: 3.28 million (#3), A18-49: 1.0/ 4 (#3)

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    10:30 p.m.

    ABC –20/20
    Viewers: 5.88 million (#2), A18-49: 1.3/ 5 (#1)

    CBS – Blue Bloods
    Viewers: 11.22 million (#1), A18-49: 1.1/ 4 (#2)

    NBC – Constantine
    Viewers: 2.96 million (#3), A18-49: 0.9/ 3 (#3)

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  5. 18-34 ratings per showbuzzdaily:
    NBC:
    Dateline: 0.6
    Grimm: 0.6
    Constantine: 0.5


    ABC:
    LMS: 0.8
    Cristela: 07.
    Shark Tank: 1.4
    20/20: 08.


    CBS:
    TAR: 0.7
    H50: 0.7
    Blue Bloods: 0.6


    FOX:
    Utopia: 0.3


    CW:
    ANTM: 0.2

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  6. Constantine was released 3hrs early on torrent sites, same with Blue Bloods. Not sure if that would have an effect on the ratings.

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  7. I wonder if Last Man Standing can live on for another season sticking at those ratings; I think it has never gone below 1.2 so far

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  8. No Grimm and Hawaii Five-0 :( Is Grimm going to get cancelled?

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  9. Ouch for NBC, Grimm isn't the Friday-powerhouse that it used to be. And I'm glad Cristela stayed even.

    But Utopia... I forgot it's even still on. A 0.5??? That's like the numbers that Saurday burnoff shows get! It barely beat a rerun of Whose Line.

    H 5-0 will be done at the end of the season, and Amasing Race will probably have a final run, either post-Big Brither in a summer or in the bridge between Survivor cycles

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  10. My pleasure :)

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  11. Cheap show to make, plus it was Halloween, so numbers across the board will be down.

    The test will be next week if the shows "bounce" back.

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  12. It's only chance is beneffiting from any bounce back Grimm can make in the coming weeks, but so far it is looking dead

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  13. I think it's good enough considering the following:

    1) LMS is growing weak and may not get another season due to contract issues with production companies
    2) The Tuesday comedies are doing just as bad, if not worse
    3) ABC only has one midseason comedy

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  14. That certainly looks to be playing on Last Man Standing's favor; the only thing against it is that it comes from 20th Century FOX, but it give ABC something to hold on at 8PM while they wait for Shark Tank to rule the night, so maybe they'll let it stick there a little bit longer

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  15. Wow, a 0.3. Didn't even think that was possible

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  16. Most states were pre-empted with no H50 due to football from what I heard from a friend in Florida

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  17. Of Last Man Standing, Cristela, and Fresh Off the Boat, I think two, but not all, will be renewed

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  18. Considering Fridays have a huge problem skewing young, it's not so surprising

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  19. Not surprised, I always thought Constantine would be cancelled.

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  20. No pre-emptions were mentioned in the ratings report.


    If there were pre-emptions then H50 will likely be adjusted down.

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  21. It will depend on how Fresh Off the Boat premieres and what ABC has planned for Fridays next season. The only sure thing about the night right now is that Shark Tank will continue to run there at 9PM

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  22. Which in turn depends on where Fresh Off the Boat premieres. It belongs behind the Goldbergs but that probably can't happen this year

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  23. It's good enough to not get pulled. But I am really not sure whether it's good enough for a full season, or a renewal. I think it really depends on what ABC wants to do for the Friday block. If they are confident that another show like The Shark Tank spin-off can do better numbers and since Last Man Standing has hit syndication numbers, they might end both LMS and Cristela. But if not, who knows what will happen? Apparently TVLine has "insiders" that say that Cristela is a safe bet for renewal, but you have to take it with a pinch of salt. Personally, I think the ethnic thing might be helping its prospects, after all ABC wants to boast about diversity of family comedies with Black-ish, Fresh Off The Boat, Modern Family, Cristela, The Goldbergs and The Middle.

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  24. Yep. If Grimm goes up maybe 0.1/0.2 and holds steady, it itself will be fine, but I doubt that Constantine will be able to hold as much of Grimm's demo as it needs. I give it 3 weeks before Constantine is gone.

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  25. So it seems that I predicted Constantine to be renewed. Oops.

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  26. Bit too early to tell, I think.

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  27. Revenge and OUAT1 November 2014 at 15:44

    Ouch constantine

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  28. Wednesday are overcrowded, The Middle, The Goldbergs, Modern Family and Blackish will all run there all season long. At best FOB gets a sampling chance after Modern Family, but that's the best it can hope for.
    It will either premiere on Tuesday or Friday if Cristela doesn't get a backorder

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  29. Revenge and OUAT1 November 2014 at 15:45

    Ohhh okay interesting. Thx :)

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  30. I really didn't expect that. I was thinking a drop to 1.1 at worst instead of a 0.9.

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  31. At least Grimm didn't get a series low, I think another season had it, or was that just total viewers and not demo?

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  32. I don't know, they did let Dracula run its whole season even though it was low rated, maybe they will let Constantine do the same. Heck, they are even letting Bad Judge and A to Z run their courses and they rate worse

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  33. Revenge and OUAT1 November 2014 at 15:47

    Yeah all true. I do think it will be cancelled though. A 1.0 in episode four is not good. I think abc should cancel selfie first though.

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  34. Not related to today's ratings so much, but interesting to point out, I feel

    https://twitter.com/EricIGN/status/528545351620243458

    https://twitter.com/TyTalksTV/status/528565775859077120

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  35. Joint low in the demo with 3.18 - but if you compare the viewers of that episode with this one then this episode was a series low.

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  36. I don't think it can go to Tuesday considering that both comedies will be done with nothing to replace them, so it would be the only comedy's cheduled there, which is impossible.

    Now that I say it, I'm thinking Cristela doesn't get a back order :(. I still think that they could renew it though and end Last Man Standing

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  37. Yeah, when I say gone, I mean cancelled. They'll air all 13 regardless because they'll hold Hannibal back until late winter/early spring.

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  38. NBC is in such a shameful place with comedies. And let's not even start with FOX, which has only Sundays and Gotham to brag about- and to some extent, Sleepy Hollow as a steady player

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  39. Revenge and OUAT1 November 2014 at 15:49

    I think it is really sad. I did not Check it out but it the trailer looked so different compared to all other shows on TV.

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  40. Yep. If it weren't for those shows, I'd be interested to see how the average compares to the CW.

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  41. Matty, you can see all the past ratings in our Ratings Database here http://stvplus.com/show/75/Grimm#episodes

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  42. Revenge and OUAT1 November 2014 at 15:51

    Can you predict sunday ratings here without someone complaining about it or being attacked?

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  43. The only way Cristela will get renewed over LMS, which has way more episodes. is that Cristela suddenly shoots up in the ratings and start delivering 1.3+ ratings, but that is highly unlikely.


    So far it's looking like FOB will take over Cristela's timeslot,

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  44. Awful ratings all around except for Shark Tank. Either Hawaii Five-0 or Blue Bloods is gonna bite the dust at the end of the season. My bet is on H50. Constantine will be canceled as well, I think.

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  45. Revenge and OUAT1 November 2014 at 15:55

    Great :) am way too used to TVBTN

    Since saturday ratings are a bit boring my predictions for sunday

    OUAT: 2.7
    resurrection:1.3
    Revenge 1.2-1.3

    All shows should rise and OUAT had an amazing episode last week and revenge will be insane this sunday

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  46. Looks like Constantine won't be around very long. :(

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  47. Um, not true. Glee did as well.

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  48. They would be neck to neck.
    FOX avarage without Sunday or Monday is 1.16
    CW avarage as of right now is a bit lower: 0,78
    FOX is a couple of tenths higher, but not that far away from The CW

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  49. Guess he's not counting Glee as an out-an-out drama.

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  50. That's bad.

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  51. It's worse: it's dreadful

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  52. House also had way more than 50 episodes.

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  53. My survival depends on Grimm's.

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  54. Oh, then absolutely! Probably they'll extend the same treatment they gave Bad Judge and A to Z; cancelled, but announced just in time to plan an exit route

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  55. Premiered before Bones.

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  56. Yeah, but it premiered before Fringe. He means that no drama after Fringe got more than 50 episodes

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  57. Yep. They'd pull it sooner, but they will want to hold Hannibal/it won't be ready

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  58. I don't think it's getting renewed at this numbers. I even think it's doubtful they get a backorder.

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  59. My guess is that OUAT won't quite be that high. 2.5/2.6 maybe.

    Resurrection 1.2
    Revenge 1.2

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  60. no surprise given it's timeslot

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  61. Ouch Grimm, I hope it's adjusted up.

    As for Constantine, I really hated its pilot. Wouldn't mind to see it gone.

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  62. I think Fresh off the Boat will be burned off somewhere, Cristella won't get a backorder and ABC will double up on LMS on March to make way for Beyond the Tank in April and May.

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  63. Grimm is still certain to be renewed, as it is certain to rebound from this.

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  64. Shouldn't Beyond the Tank act as an air suply for Tuesdays? I mean, considering how badly they are doing on the night SHIELD could really use a decent lead in

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  65. Cult on the CW in the 12-13 season went down to a 0.1 in the 18-49 demo.

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  66. Yeah, it has gone this low before and bounce back. It's what Grimm does

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  67. Fox is just pathetic.

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  68. Might be nothing but, on the bright side, 5-O didn't drop that much for Halloween..........They actually gained overall viewers... :P

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  69. I am not really sure if CBS will cancel any Friday dramas. Maybe if they renew Madam Secretary but otherwise between the slots of TAR (summer bound), Stalker (very likely cancelation) and Two and a Half Men/The McCarthys (ending/cancelled), they have enough space for 3 hours of new programming. They can also cancel CSI if need be or they can renew a drama for half a seaosn like they did with the mentalist. A lot comes down to development. If they have another drama season in which the only worthy dramas are Hostages and Intelligence they will keep their veterans.

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  70. I don't know why so many people picked Constantine to be renewed?

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  71. I agree; and have you seen the kind of pilots they are ordering?
    An Ebola limited series? Like, seriously?

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  72. I would do that, yes, but I believe ABC will air it on Fridays.

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  73. I am somewhat hoping that Revenge can prove itself (though the ratings are a shadow of its past) a little by pulling ahead of Resurrection.

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  74. there would've been no effect whatsoever, first of all the only people looking for the episodes on torrent sites are hardcore fans or people that wouldn't have watched live anyway


    there's virtually no chance Constantine dropped a single tenth due to that.


    Same goes for Reign and other shows that have their episodes released prior to their initial airing

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  75. So they want another Shonda night, this time with Shark Time running from 8 to 10? While I understand the logic behind that- and they would reign on the night- it seems like a wasted chance to use that show to prop another night that needs it way more

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  76. They were already making the series before the outbreak, but the project quickly picked up steam when the Ebola outbreak was the news all the time.

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  77. If it gets picked up we could have the first ever 0.0 demo. Or FOX will just cancel it before it even airs.

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  78. It shouldn't be picked up at all.

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  79. Last Man Standing is thevery definition of timeslot filler. Small cast, a small variety of sets and minimal camera angles. Probably one of the cheapest produced shows of this generation.
    The only reason there might be some budget is Tim Allen

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  80. Revenge and OUAT1 November 2014 at 16:15

    That Would be awesome. I hope people tune in tomorrow. It will be one insane episode

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  81. Revenge and OUAT1 November 2014 at 16:15

    Yeah that will probably happen

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  82. isn't Grimm in it's fourth season now? Keep in mind: Grimm is perfect syndication material for TNT

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  83. Ugh. Why the heck would they air fresh episodes on Halloween. And I'm actually enjoying that Constantine sticks fairly close to the comics. Unless there's a serious uptick next week the show won't go beyond 13.

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  84. Again I agree, but I think the plan won't go in that direction

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  85. because it's DC property, it just looked like it would become the year of DC

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  86. Considering how well SPN has done in TNT, Grimm may do as well, so I'm sure NBC got a sweet deal out of it. It'll probably get a lot of episodes produced before it ends.

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  87. Don't u think they are delaying the father daughter reunion drama a bit too much?

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  88. DC comics so far have been hits on TV; Arrow, The Flash and Gotham all do extremely well for their networks

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  89. This is why ABC is often called "the dumb network". The only good choice I've seen them taking so far is TGIT, and that could have been done last season

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  90. yeah, it's just one of these shows that are predestined for syndication. Easy to get into

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  91. Revenge and OUAT1 November 2014 at 16:20

    I Personally don't mind that they are doing that. I think the reunion should be a big huge thing. It should be shocking and special. IMO it should not be rushed. I am just curious to see what david will reveal in tomorrow's episode and what will happen to Charlotte. Do you understand what i mean?

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  92. Charlotte dies in episode 6,everyone knows this bit.

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  93. Revenge and OUAT1 November 2014 at 16:22

    I know... i am curious to see how though. But don't tell me

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  94. The thing is,david so far has been such a let-down for me.The narrative at the beginning by emily/amanda was so good,they cut that out this year.It added to the drama.Last episode was very boring for me.I hope things pick up otherwise i have to drop the show after mid-season finale sadly!

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  95. Revenge and OUAT1 November 2014 at 16:27

    I really hope you do not drop it. I think tomorrow will improve from last episode. I just hope david does the right things. I will always watch revenge even if it turns out horrible because i want to see how it ends eventually

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  96. H50's biggest thing weighing it down is its fandom. You introduce a new character and they throw a fit. You give either Danny or Steve a love interest, people whine constantly on tumblr and twitter because it gets in the way of their homo-erotic fantasy of the two.


    It truly is a case of the vocal minority being EXTREMELY vocal, but it's made this show's fandom into one of the least likable on the internet. If those idiots had their way, the show would have stayed exactly the same as it was in the first season. No character progression, no new characters, no new stories, just bromance.

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  97. They are already casting for season 27, so TAR should have at least two more seasons.

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  98. I love their bromance but you have a valid point.Everything cannot stay the same as it was in season 1.But season 4 had hardly any bromance,so they did try to change things.Nothing is helping now.

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  99. What's even worse is that now david will go after my fav character from the show-nolan!I was like-WTH!!

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  100. Revenge and OUAT1 November 2014 at 16:35

    I hope there is another reason why he is going after Him. If not i hope nolan tells him something. But once again don't tell me anything if you already have spoilers

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  101. Constantine didn't look good unlike the other DC shows.

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  102. I don't know TBH.I can only hope it can keep me interested,that's all-whatever the reason is.My patience is wearing thin!

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  103. Revenge and OUAT1 November 2014 at 16:40

    I can understand that

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  104. They won't end Hawaii Five-0 unless the cast wants it to end. The combination of that and Blue Bloods does well for them and I can't see anything else doing much better in the timeslot.

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  105. In the awards season Glee always get nominations as comedy, you're right Bradley.

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  106. Yeah, I started in season two and had no problem jumping in without any other knowledge. The arcs tend to finish within a season, except for the ones that kind of hover in the background like the coins, which we like never hear about and aren't there several keys that we need to know about? But really if the show ended without telling me a lot about either, I wouldn't be bothered because they come up so rarely.

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  107. November sweeps.

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  108. I guess they are going to cancel Hawaii maybe Elementary... CSI probably going to be renewed for a final season... And they already have Mentalist and Two and a Half Men cancelled.

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  109. POI will be cancelled before Elementary because CBS owns the latter. Any CBS owned bubble series will take priority over POI.

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  110. I'm not a constant watcher, only seen a few episodes and I never had an issue jumping in either.
    It's the Buffy formula: deliver a story in the background and tell one-off arcs each episode. Not saying that Grimm is as good as Buffy or Angel but it's hovering in the same area


    If I ever had to write a mystery themed show I'd go down that route

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  111. Doesnt Elementary need another season for syndication? Hawaii and POI dont (not that either are doing to badly in their time slots) and could end to free up space on the schedule if needed.

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  112. If Constantine is cancelled, I will be soooooooo angry. It's a great show in a lousy timeslot. John Constantine is finally done right and on TV no less and the show will ultimately get cancelled.

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  113. FOX has a few shows waiting in the wings that might do decently if they get the scheduling right, but I don't trust them to get it right. They aired their failing comedies on Tuesday after the already dead before the season started Utopia. The entire line up needs a re-haul.

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  114. it would have done crap in any time slot

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  115. Says who? It's a fantastic show and a well-written show at that.

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  116. that's a dumb statement, friday nights is far from a good timeslot. It would have certainly done better during every other night of the week

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  117. the pilot was solid, I'm not too hot on watching episode 2 though, I really liked the female lead in the pilot and knowing that they wrote her off like that....

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  118. Alright, I just though they needed to make room for POI/Elementary eventually, really all their dramas are aging

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  119. Seasons or cycles?

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  120. I remember that now, that was for its finale too, when it got a 0 share

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  121. Its first 0.1 was in its fifth episode. It got cancelled after its sixth.

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  122. Counting FOTB ABC has 9 comedies this year, 7 which are on the schedule now, 1 cancelled, 1 for midseason. Since comedies are 1/2 hour and Sekfie will be gone by Christmas, ABC will have 7 at midseason. Only way to fit this in is to save FOTB for maybe April or to take a show off the schedule (Cristela). Do you think it has any chance for renewal, I'm pleasantly surprised by it.

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  123. I think this year CBS will cancel a veteran drama. They just don't have space for all of them to return. There is also a slight chance one of the midseason dramas will succeed because they seem promising. Then again I thought the same of Intelligence and look how that turned out.

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  124. it actually looked pretty darn badass from the promos

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  125. my Aunt Kate recently got a stunning green Mercedes-Benz S-Class Diesel just by some part time working online with a mac book air,work at any time any where, sundays are open too.....http://tiny.cc/yfrnox

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  126. SHIELDNCISArrowfan1 November 2014 at 19:04

    Halloween + awful lead in for H50........AR is not helping this season and NO it will be cancelled since CBS love it

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  127. I disagree with two things:
    - which midseason dramas would they renew? It looks like the only one that will debut in season is Cyber and that's likely to land Sundays at 10 which is not promising at all
    - if they cancel Madam Secretary, Stalker, move TAR to summer, end Men and axe the McCarthys, they open 4 hours of new programming which is around the amount of hours they tend to premiere. Some years the even premiere only 3 or 3.5. So I don't see why they would need space.

    This being said, I do consider H50 to be legitimately in danger now after these two airings. But I am not sure if syndication won't be enough to save it, especially since, like I was saying, CBS does have the space to do it.

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  128. I really, really really hope Constantine bounds back next week. *fingers crossed* It was Halloween after all. Maybe people will catch up via DVR and online and it can at least go back up beyond a 1... *fingers crossed* I enjoyed episode two much more than the pilot.

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  129. I hope Constantine does better next week (since this week was Halloween), it's such a good show. Please, try to spread the word of this show so that it doesn't get cancelled.

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  130. They had another direction from the show; plus, I like the new female lead better.

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  131. Or people who follow shows that aren't broadcast in their country until months/years later.

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  132. Sucks about Constantine because I really enjoyed the second episode and think they could really be on to something (personally it fills the void Supernatural left since S5) but the timeslot is a death sentence.

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  133. While I enjoyed the female lead as well, the character of Zed is in the comics, and it still works. I also think the new girl has better chemistry.

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  134. I agree with what you said. And TBH, I do think the writer are handling things way better in this season compared to the last one. I do remember how forced were the many many scenes of carguments between Steve and Danny. It often felt as though the bickering between the two of them was only made up to further the fangirls slash fantasies. Not to mention the way the producers deal with every other romantic story in these two characters' lives. If there's anything I hate about this show, it would be the fact that it's always unpredictable in terms of how a secondary character is going to be dealt with. In other words, you can't fall in love with a new character and expect it to last unless all those dreamy fangirls in twitter/tumblr agree that he/she is harmless to the illusional development of their beloved Mcdanno fantasy. which is impossible. And it's really a shame that the writers choices depend on it as they never realise that a part of a fandom is NOT THE fandom.

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  135. It is so ridiculous (and unfortunately typical) that some commenters at tvbythenumbers are now saying that Grimm will be cancelled and of course when Grimm fans disagree, they are "fan girls" and "using fan excuse bingo" and "blinded to the reality" and "in denial" to the "fact" that Grimm will be cancelled after this season. Grimm has gotten a 1.1 even back in Season 1 (I think) and survived very well. There is just a twisted reality over there where every single show (including The Walking Dead) had detractors hoping for them to fail, and trying to spin every rating into some kind of disasterous result. I won't be commenting there anymore.

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  136. Though likely, I wouldn't bet on it. Sure CBS does care about the shows they own, however, they have to think in the future. Elementary's premiere did terrible for any returning show, even if their owned by that network or not. If they end up with those numbers (7-8 million + sub 1.5) throughout the whole season, I would definitely consider the ax for it. If it's difficult to succeed on its own network, it's not going to do any better in syndication. POI has a slightly healthier future right now than Elementary. The way I see it so far, if I were to cancel a new show, I would choose Madame Secretary just because of its weak demo after football and 60 Minutes. In addition to new, I just don't know how Cyber is going to do well in any time slot. The McCarthys seem like toast already. For veterans, I would consider mostly Elementary and CSI. The Mentalist and TAHM are on their final seasons. I would add 5-O and BB on the list, however, my opinion will sway since Fridays are my favorite nights on TV thanks to them. The way I can see them getting another season is by moving TAR to summer and add a more reliable lead-in for 5-O such as NCIS: LA or even Criminal Minds. One way I can see CSI have a "proper" ending this year is by splitting their shortened season. They can air around 10 episodes and give it a "hiatus" in preparation for their final episodes. During that hiatus, they air Cyber. Then CSI comes back and gets their chance to wrap things up. All these moves open up four hours for next fall already. Count 5 if something bad happens to Elementary with their syndication deal and their ratings.

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  137. I'm very glad Cristela is even this week. I sure hope it goes up at least a little. I know Friday ratings are compared a little differently than other days of the week so hopefully that plays into ABC's considerations. It hasn't ben a great year for new comedies. I'm still dying to see Galavant.

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  138. At least the demo didn't drop.

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  139. I'm glad too. Wonder if Galavant will take over Tuesday

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  140. It's supposed to air in Once's slot while it's on hiatus.

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  141. CBSis trying to get the full season TNF so that might means more cancellation than usual just so they can fit the rest of thier show in season.

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  142. I know. I just thought they might have to make a change in plans. Isn't Galavant somewhat comedy, from what I hear? Because MLS and Selfie will both be gone, and with the addition of FOTB that would make 7, which can't be scheduled unless one airs next to a repeat. So because of numbers I think Cristela is pulled at midseason (but not necessarily cancelled), FOTB takes over, and Galavant goes to Tuesday. They'll just have to air nothing between OUATs. My plan probably doesn't make any practical sense though :(

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  143. I think ABC's banking on Galavant's compatibility with OUAT. When the first promo came out it was all over OUAT's Facebook page.

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