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Ratings News - 30th September 2014

30 Sept 2014

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Today's Early Overnight Ratings

This table shows the early overnight ratings. These ratings are normally adjusted later in the day when all the ratings have been consolidated to take into account any local preemptions and/or overruns. You can find all the final adjusted numbers in our Ratings Database. (See the About section below for details about ratings)

NOTE: ABC Had some pre-emptions last night so expect some adjustments in the finals later tonight

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Early Ratings Analysis

The analysis below is based on the early household numbers and are NOT the same as the numbers that will be posted in the above table later. (See the About section below)

For more information on the Nielsen Ratings see this Wikipedia Entry.

NOTE: The opinions expressed here are NOT those of SpoilerTV but of the Author of this Article, Marc Berman.

Metered Market Monday Ratings
Dramas “Gotham” and “Scorpion” Hold Up Well in Week Two

Monday 9/29/14
Note: The New England Patriots/Kansas City Chiefs football match-up on ESPN aired on ABC affiliates in Boston and Kansas City. All individual program results for ABC are approximate.

Household
Rating/Share
ABC 8.1/12
CBS 8.0/12
NBC 8.0/12
Fox 4.3/ 6
CW 0.6/ 1

-Percent Change from Year-Ago Evening – Monday 9/30/13:
CBS: +67, ABC and NBC: – 6 each, Fox: -14, CW: -33
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Note: The following labels are based on the household overnights and are subject to change given the availability of other pending data streams. As always, these overnights are your first look at the ratings and a precursor to what could lie ahead. And we take into account other benchmarks including the expected demographic ratings, potential DVR usage, the critical acclaim (or lack of) and the social media presence.

-Winners:
“The Big Bang Theory” (CBS), “The Voice” (NBC), “Dancing With the Stars” (ABC), “Gotham” (Fox), “Scorpion” (CBS), “Castle” (ABC), “The Blacklist” (NBC)

-Noticeable Slippage:
“Sleepy Hollow” (Fox)

-Losers (excluding repeats):
“The iHeartradio Music Festival” (CW)

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Ratings Breakdown:
The Big 3 were neck-and-neck for overnight household dominance, with ABC (which included the New England/Kansas City football match-up pre-empting its regularly scheduled line-up in Boston and Kansas City) one-tenth of a household rating point ahead of both CBS and NBC. But the home of “The Voice” and “The Blacklist,” NBC, is poised for victory in adults 18-49 (and the other key young adult demos). And CBS is the most improved.

“The Big Bang Theory” on CBS topped the evening, with a 10.8 rating/16 share in the household overnights at 8 p.m. And it led into an encore telecast of “Big Bang” at a third-place 7.8.11 at 8:30 p.m.

Very promising for CBS was episode two of drama “Scorpion” at an 8.7/13 from 9-10 p.m. (#2t), which was just two-tenths of a rating point (or two percent) below last week’s 8.9/13 debut (which translated into 13.83 million viewers and a 3.2 rating/9 share among adults 18-49, based on the Live Plus Same Day data). “Scorpion” built from the “Big Bang Theory” encore lead-in by 12 percent (versus dropping by 20 percent last week from the 11.1/17 for an original edition at 8:30 p.m.). “Scorpion” also increased from year-ago sitcoms “2 Broke Girls” (5.2/ 8 on 9/30/13) and “Mom” (4.9/ 7) by an average of 72 percent. And positive DVR usage based on the Live + 3 Day data last week (+4.12 million viewers and 1.4 rating points in adults 18-49) means that breaking up the perennial two-hour Monday sitcom block might not have been such a bad idea after all. Note to BH…keep smiling!

In season-premiere news, CBS’ “NCIS: Los Angeles” opened season six with a third-place 6.0/10 in the overnights at 10 p.m., which was 29 percent below the 9:30 p.m. portion of lead-in “Scorpion” (8.5/13). And “NCIS: Los Angeles” trailed its year-ago season-opener (9.8/15 on Tuesday 9/24/13 out of “NCIS”) by 39 percent. But this was still 46 percent above failed year-ago occupant “Hostages” (4.1/ 7), and there is every reason to believe “NCIS: Los Angeles” will have an advantage in the young demos opposite “Castle” on ABC.

“Castle” opened its seventh season with an approximate (and first place) 7.1/12 at 10 p.m., which held 82 percent of the 9:30 p.m. portion of lead-in “Dancing With the Stars” (8.7/13). And “Castle” beat competing “The Blacklist” on NBC (6.8/11) and aforementioned “NCIS: Los Angeles” on CBS (6.0/10) by 4 percent and 18 percent, respectively. The year-ago season-opener was a 7.4/12 on 9/24/13. But “The Blacklist” will have the advantage demographically, of course. And “Castle’s” overnight rating could be inflated due to the two markets airing football.

Earlier in the evening on ABC was “Dancing With the Stars” at an estimated 8.5/13 in the overnights from 8-10 p.m., which was an approximate nine percent below the 9.3/14 one year earlier. Remember, those two ABC affiliates carrying football, Boston and Kansas City, are included.

Over at NBC, two hours of “The Voice” was successfully on the overnight map with an 8.6/13 from 8-10 p.m., peaking at a first-place 8.9/13 at 9:30 p.m. Year-to-year, “The Voice” dipped by only three percent (vs. an 8.9/13 on 9/30/13). And it led into aforementioned demo dominant “The Blacklist” at a second-place 6.8/11 at 10 p.m., which opposite the season premieres on ABC and CBS dipped by 13 percent from the 7.8/13 season-opener one week earlier. Regardless, the 10 p.m. hour last night does prove there is room for three very different dramas.

In other episode two news, Fox drama “Gotham” maintained 93 percent of its week-ago overnight debut with a 5.3/ 8 (#4) from 8-9 p.m. Comparably, this is 10 percent above year-ago occupant “Bones” (4.8/ 7 on 9/30/13). And an increase of 1.8 rating points among adults 18-49 last week (to a 5.0 rating, based on the Live + 3 Day data) means “Gotham” could very well be the demographic hit the network was hoping for. Two episodes in and “Gotham” looks like a keeper.

Far less impressive on Fox was sophomore lead-out “Sleepy Hollow” at a 3.4/ 5 in the overnights from 9-10 p.m., which was down by 11 percent from its already diluted season-opener one week earlier (3.8/ 6 on Sept. 22) and down by 35 percent from the 5.2/ 8 on the year-ago evening.

Capping off the evening (and still hiding from the early season competition) was CW special, “The iHeartradio Music Festival” at a mere 0.6/ 1 in the overnights from 8-10 p.m.

Source: Nielsen Media Research data


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110 comments:

  1. Let's hope Castle debuted strong.

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  2. Frozen Oncers(was TeenWolfers)30 September 2014 at 14:50

    Yay Scorpion :)

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  3. Proof NCIS: LA lived off its lead-in. That is a horrible drop, especially since it skews very old. Very surprising hold for Scorpion.

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  4. Looks like Gotham could still be on the 3s.
    Poor Sleepy Hollow :(, hopefully the demos will still be ok.

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  5. Yay for Gotham! I'm starting to get worried about Sleepy Hollow :/ The show has the best lead in and it's still slipping. I hope it stabilizes soon.

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  6. It has always been a steady player. Probably low 2s and it will keep it around that rating the whole season

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  7. It got me worried last season. The show is too enjoyable for me to want it to end.

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  8. Wow, that's awesome for Scorpion!
    Castle did well too, but NCIS:LA might be in a little trouble.

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  9. D├ębora Candido30 September 2014 at 14:54

    Yesssssssssssssss Gotham!!!

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  10. For whatever we can tell from the overnights, both Scorpion and Gotham seem to have had great holds from premiere. We shall see how that translates in the demo.

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  11. I don´t think so...there´´s already a drop from last year, and it was preempted in big markets:(
    I believe, hoping to be wrong, it´ll be lower than 2.0:(

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  12. Thoughts on Castle's premiere?

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  13. So many winners! Certainly not used to that!

    Hoping for good Scorpion ratings.

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  14. I have no clue because the show has became more and more old skewing as the years go by (so it's harder to grasp something from the overnights) and also because the numbers seem to be messed up by the preemption. So I need demo numbers (possibly final ones) for that one.

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  15. Castle beat The Blacklist? Hmmm, maybe it'll adjust downward in the finals.

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  16. it beat it in HH. Expect TBL to be the dominant force at 10 on Mondays.

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  17. @Edward, what were the top 25 markets for the 10pm Dramas, The Voice, Gotham, TBBT, and Scorpion?

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  18. So happy for Scorpion and Gotham.

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  19. These are just household ratings.

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  20. The real test for Scorpion will be once TBBT is off Mondays, but so far, it's proving to be a legitimate hit. Good for CBS, I guess.

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  21. I thought Heller confirmed that Gotham will only get 16 episodes for season 1 no matter what ratings it gets.

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  22. Oh, I know. I expect it to lead in the demo. But NBC has to be hoping for some growth in its live audience, especially if it intends to move it Thursdays.

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  23. FOX fascinates me this season from a purely academic point of view. I really do not know up until where should we take the "relative ratings only" motto. If we continue to stick by it indefinitely, then I am pretty sure we are at most a year away from starting to treat FOX like the CW (I don't mean that they will have the same raw numbers but that they will be judged in a completely different league than the other nets and not really expected to be competitive with them).

    In any case, I doubt Sleepy Hollow is even on FOX's radar. Their entire midweek schedule is chaotic, the only thing remotely looking healthy is 10 year old Bones and that's with a 1.6. Probably the worst that could happen to Sleepy Hollow would be considered unworthy of the Gotham lead-in and moved to a lower priority night (this assuming the ratings don't free fall too much). Remember that they are struggling to pull 1s (or will be very soon) Tuesdays at 8, Tuesdays at 9, Wednesdays at 8 ,Wednesdays at 9, Thursdays at 9 (me guessing), Fridays at 8 and Fridays at 9. That's a lot of schedule to fill!

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  24. NCIS: LA seems like the perfect show for Fridays at 8:00. I'm not a move this season is in the cards, but if TAR can't improve, perhaps it'll move there next season. If CBS leaves Scorpion where it is on Mondays, they'll want to use that slot to launch a new drama.

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  25. I am getting a bit worried about the trajectory of Sleepy Hollow. Yes the ratings will still be good for FOX.
    Regarding Scorpion i am just gonna wait for demo numbers. Since i was fooled by HH numbers for Madam Secretary.

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  26. Yeah...the network has bigger problems than a down but not out SH.
    Also, since the show is at least partially if not entirely owned by Fox, that has to work in its favor.

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  27. At what time will we be getting Sunday's final ratings?

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  28. I agree that if SH keeps dropping they could move it and place a new show there. Which worries me because I don't know how much SH could fall without the Gotham lead in.
    Still Fox has so many problems this season that Sleepy Hollow could still get a third season as long as it doesn't drop further than 1.5.

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  29. true, 1.7 or 1.8. But the lead is horrible, it is not The Voice, it is DWTS :(

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  30. Probably an hour actually

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  31. DWTS has proved to be a great lead-in for Castle in the past.

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  32. I don't think CBS would move LA twice so soon. In addition, POI or Elementary will probably be the weekend bound dramas this year. My guess is that one goes to Sunday and one to Friday.

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  33. Nice Hold for Gotham I'm surprised the way Sleepy Hollow is going. It was getting good Rattings at the end of Season 1 is Scorpion stealing its fans?

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  34. FOX have so many problems that SH is still one of their strongest shows even with the currently low demo. I think S3 for SH is pretty much guaranteed at this point.

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  35. I was talking more in terms of next season. This season I don't see them moving it at all. Maybe there was a remote chance if both it and Gotham were year-round shows (which they should be by the way, FOX is in too bad shape to let go its two best weekday performers just like that), but not with limited orders for both, they have nothing else to premiere during fall that would be worthier of a Gotham lead-in.

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  36. Hm, that was when DWTS had 3.o and 4.0., not the case anymore.
    But, anyway, as big of a Castle fan I am, these days it can´t depend on a lead-in. The numbers it gets are, or should be, what they can achieve only by them,imo.

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  37. Gotham and The Blacklist did good.

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  38. It was only preempted in KC and Boston...KC isn't going to have any impact on the ratings and New England was playing so poorly I'm sure many, many, many fans had to change the channel so I'm not really anticipating too much effect.

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  39. I think it depends on what else the network does. The Mentalist is done, but The Good Wife probably gets one final season (if not more). I figure that at least Stalker or CSI: Cyber will get cancelled. But still, there's just not a lot of room. I figure Criminal Minds will get at least one more season, as would Blue Bloods and Hawaii 5-O. Survivor isn't going anywhere. Madame Secretary will probably have to drop a lot more to not be renewed. And then there's the comedies. Given that a lot of its dramas are old, CBS needs to launch something new. If Scorpion continues to work, will CBS leave it there and use the spot to launch a new drama? Will it move the show to Thursdays, if continues to skew young? Right now, CBS only has three hours of comedy, and it still has a bunch that have yet to premiere.

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  40. But Boston is a big market, I believe usually a preemption there is well noted...

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  41. why does a show in its 7th season needs a lead-in?

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  42. I understand that but at halftime the score was like 27 - 0 and NE has been playing poorly lately so I highly doubt that the numbers will drop as significantly as people think.

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  43. Christopher DeBono30 September 2014 at 15:43

    Yeah this season it's only going to have 16 episodes. They've mentioned it could be increased further in future seasons though.

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  44. My very uneducated guess, since it's still very early in the season and so much can change, but since we are on the topic:
    - Two and a Half Men ends
    - The McHarthys cancelled
    - The Amazing Race is held for summer post Big Brother or cancelled entirely
    - Madam Secretary is cancelled
    - No midseason drama is renewed, as usual
    - New Orleans, Stalker and Scorpion score renewals

    So schedule would be:
    Monday: 2 Broke Girls + New Comedy + Scorpion + LA
    Tuesday: NCIS + New Orlenas + New Drama
    Wednesday: Survivor + Criminal Minds + Stalker
    Thursday: Big Bang + New Comedy + Mom + The Millers
    Friday: POI + H50 + Blue Bloods
    Sunday: Elementary + The Good Wife + CSI

    Or something of the like.

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  45. Christopher DeBono30 September 2014 at 15:54

    Sleepy Hollow will probably be fine if it can stay above a 1.5. It's still early days but Red Band Society, The Mindy Project, Utopia and The New Girl are all in much bigger trouble.

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  46. Making this process even more complicated, and kind of fun in a maddening way, is that some of these shows could get shortened seasons.

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  47. Im loving Gotham a lot!!!!!

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  48. Frozen Oncers(was TeenWolfers)30 September 2014 at 16:04

    I doubt they share much of an audience, I do watch both though and I have to say Sleepy Hollow is pretty boring for me.so far this season.

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  49. Great for Gotham! Sleepy Hollow needs to stop dropping.

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  50. Scorpion's second episode gets a 3.0.
    Very good retention from 1st episode.

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  51. Gotham gets a 2.8.

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  52. 3.0 for Scorpion, 2.8 for Gotham.

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  53. Only 1.9 for NCIS. Ouch. Dow more than a rating point for last season's premioere.

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  54. It seems LA really needed that NCIS lead-in.

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  55. Frozen Oncers(was TeenWolfers)30 September 2014 at 16:12

    I'm really glad Scorpion held up, I really enjoyed both episodes so far :)
    I bailed on Gotham after episode 1, it just really wasn't for me at all.

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  56. Respectable for both, especially Scorpion since it didn't have as much buzz as Gotham

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  57. Scorpions pilot really didn't keep me but this is....fantastic for a new show.

    Great for Gotham s*well

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  58. seems like it, 3 spin-offs are one too many anyway

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  59. Castle returns to a 2.4. But don't forget those pre-emptions for football!

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  60. wasn't too fond of Gothams pilot either BUT the second episode actually fascinated me, I'd say give it two other episodes :)

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  61. 2.8 for Blacklist is still great.

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  62. Let´s go Castle!! was an amazing season premiere, best show in tv!!

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  63. Christopher DeBono30 September 2014 at 16:15

    Same here. The second was much better then the first.

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  64. i know Sleepy Hollow wont be canceled. But the trajectory is worrying me a bit.

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  65. I should probably wait for Scandal's week 2 ratings but it seems to me as if TBL isn't strong enough, as of now, to go head-to-head with Scandal.

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  66. Expect an adjustment down of about 0.4 (it´s the usual in big markets)...maybe around a 2.0 in the finals (honestly, I was expecting worse, so I´ll be happy with that...)

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  67. Once and Resurrection adjusted up 3 tenths. Revenge 1 tenth.

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  68. Here are the 1/2hr Breakdowns

    8:00 p.m.

    ABC – Dancing With the Stars
    Viewers: 11.92 million (#2), A18-49: 1.7/ 6 (#4)

    CBS – The Big Bang Theory
    Viewers: 16.18 million (#1), A18-49: 4.7/15 (#1)

    NBC – The Voice
    Viewers: 11.07 million (#3), A18-49: 3.2/10 (#2)

    Fox – Gotham
    Viewers: 7.39 million (#4), A18-49: 2.8/ 9 (#3)

    CW – The iHeartradio Music Festival
    Viewers: 957,000 (#5), A18-49: 0.3/ 1 (#5)

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    8:30 p.m.

    ABC – Dancing With the Stars
    Viewers: 12.75 million (#2), A18-49: 1.9/ 5 (#4)

    CBS – The Big Bang Theory (R)
    Viewers: 12.32 million (#3), A18-49: 3.1/ 9 (#2)

    NBC – The Voice
    Viewers: 12.96 million (#1), A18-49: 4.0/11 (#1)

    Fox – Gotham
    Viewers: 7.27 million (#4), A18-49: 2.7/ 8 (#3)

    CW – The iHeartradio Music Festival
    Viewers: 964,000 (#5), A18-49: 0.3/ 1 (#5)

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    9:00 p.m.

    ABC – Dancing With the Stars
    Viewers: 13.14 million (#3), A18-49: 2.1/ 6 (#3)

    CBS – Scorpion
    Viewers: 13.68 million (#1), A18-49: 3.2/ 9 (#2)

    NBC – The Voice
    Viewers: 13.23 million (#2), A18-49: 4.1/11 (#1)

    Fox – Sleepy Hollow
    Viewers: 5.32 million (#4), A18-49: 1.8/ 5 (#4)

    CW – The iHeartradio Music Festival
    Viewers: 902,000 (#5), A18-49: 0.3/ 1 (#5)

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    9:30 p.m.

    ABC – Dancing With the Stars
    Viewers: 12.94 million (#2), A18-49: 2.1/ 6 (#3)

    CBS – Scorpion
    Viewers: 12.77 million (#3), A18-49: 2.9/ 8 (#2)

    NBC – The Voice
    Viewers: 13.70 million (#1), A18-49: 4.3/12 (#1)

    Fox – Sleepy Hollow
    Viewers: 4.88 million (#4), A18-49: 1.7/ 4 (#4)

    CW – The iHeartradio Music Festival
    Viewers: 831,000 (#5), A18-49: 0.3/ 1 (#5)

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    10:00 p.m.

    ABC – Castle (season premiere)
    Viewers: 11.68 million (#1), A18-49: 2.4/ 7 (#2)

    CBS – NCIS: Los Angeles (season premiere)
    Viewers: 9.71 million (#3), A18-49: 2.0/ 8 (#3)

    NBC – The Blacklist
    Viewers: 11.17 million (#2), A18-49: 3.0/ 9 (#1)

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    10:30 p.m.

    ABC – Castle (season premiere)
    Viewers: 10.84 million (#1), A18-49: 2.3/ 7 (#2)

    CBS – NCIS: Los Angeles (season premiere)
    Viewers: 9.16 million (#3), A18-49: 1.8/ 5 (#3)

    NBC – The Blacklist
    Viewers: 10.14 million (#2), A18-49: 2.6/ 6 (#1)

    Source: Nielsen Media Research

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  69. I think it will get mostly a three tenth drop.

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  70. - Yay for Scorpion! I hope those are legit! It held very well from that repeat rating! LA did about what I expected from it. I thought people were way optimistic about it yesterday. New Orleans only got a 2.5 in the much better slot and for the series premiere. Anything close to a 2.0 here would be a win for CBS and that's what they got.

    - On NBC, The Blacklist came back to earth but it's still doing great business. The Voice shot up some crazy 0.8 as soon as TBBT is over, so I am pretty sure it is just being hurt by it in the first half hour, no long term damage most likely.
    - FOX still did ok and Gotham didn't have that big of a drop considering the initial hype.Sleepy Hollow held okayish, but the premiere number wasn't that good to begin with. Still perfeclty safe though of course.
    - I will reserve judgement on ABC until finals.

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  71. I say it's actually amazing for Scorpion considering the lead-in downgrade. It's a ridiculous huge held coming off such a promoted premiere, even not accounting for the lead-in decline.

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  72. If NBC decides to go through with that move, I expect them to use the break to the show's advantage by doing stuff like running a marathon or two leading up to the Superbowl episode.
    Unless I missed something, the show wasn't on regularly during the summer. It did just start on Netflix, which will definitely be helpful in the coming months, but broadcast is still king.

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  73. I thought Gotham was going to get a 2.9 - 3.0 but 2.8 is okay too.

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  74. I dnt think I've ever seen a .4 adjustment down even with football. Good chance it will stay above two.

    Also a request, dnt always be so pessimistic abt Castle. It's ratings are not huge. But It's ratings are fine and stable. So don't be so alarmed all the time.
    Cheer up. :)
    Castle is the little show that can. It always stays so stable will others drop like a dead body over the course of the season. Sth to be very proud of.

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  75. Sleepy Hollow's half hours - 1.8/1.7

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  76. As JA said on his Twitter feed, that's the same rating as Hostages last year, but the difference is that NCIS: LA could grow in the coming weeks. So, not all hope is lost for the show.

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  77. Scorpion held up pretty well in both half hours.

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  78. This is true. Castle is one of the most stable shows around and, I believe, up until around spring, Castle was actually even last year with the year before.

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  79. I know that in adjustments the half hours don't mean anything, but with DWTS only get a 2.1 in it's 9:30 portion and Castle getting a 2.4 would that mean that it's not inflated? Boston is EST (that's the bigger market, right?) so it shouldn't be because of time zones, correct? I'm figuring it's possible because ratings probably have no logic. lol

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  80. NCIS itself was down 20% and that was with a timeslot upgrade (no major 4.7 from Shield in the hour). I don't think LA's ~35% is all that bad considering the major timeslot downgrade (lower lead-in, less compatible lead-in, much more drama competition, later hour)

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  81. Honestly it's better to just wait for adjustments. Pre-emptions effects a bit hard to guess accurately.

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  82. Can't never b sure about preemptions.

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  83. me too! 2.0 will be amazing for a show with horrible promo, lead in and tough competition. Our show still survives!!

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  84. Blacklist falling 4 tenths after half hour.
    What is it gonna do against Scandal on Thursday? It'll be interesting.

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  85. It should be fine if does low 2s on Thursdays.

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  86. Scorpion did incredibly well in my opinion. It would already be a very impressive hold without taking into account the massive lead-in downgrade, but it's excellent once we account for it.

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  87. Those week 2 ratings for Gotham and Sleept Hollow are great. Amazing how little both of them dropped.

    Pretty good for The Blacklist. Hope it does well on Thursdays. It should be fine if does low 2s on Thursdays there.

    Castle should adjust down to 2.0/2.1.



    Ouch for NCIS: LA. Huge drop since last season's premiere.

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  88. OUAT and Resurrection both rose 3 tenths in finals and Revenge one tenth.

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  89. I know ABC has been in a roll upward adjustmentsrelated, but 3 tenths?! Wow, just wow!

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  90. Yes of course. It's save no matter what given nbc's state. Just think it'll be an interesting competition on Thursdays.

    Also curious to see how State of affairs does in its place. Probably a bit lower (esp if quality has an effect).

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  91. Agreed. There's still a lot left to this season, but so far, it's proving to be quite the surprise. As I noted elsewhere, it's even more important for CBS given how old most of its dramas are.

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  92. Premiere weeks are often sources of a lot of great temporary happiness. Lets see how abc does in 3-4 weeks.

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  93. What are your thoughts on the ratings for Scorpion and Gotham, Babar? Do you see them both getting renewed despite slippage?

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  94. Week 2 ratings are pretty good for both. They drop for both was very lowl. If they are consistent, they'll definitely get a back order

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  95. Ah. I see. I know very little about this ratings stuff, so when I heard people on social media talking slippage, I got concerned.

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  96. I'm gonna wait until Scorpion loses TBBT as a lead-in to pass judgement on its ratings too much. But it has started off great.

    Drop for Blacklist, but still pretty great ratings. NCIS LA down 1.1 from its premiere last year. Though, last week it actually premiered during premiere week, which may or may not have had a slight impact. But given that Hostages premiered to a 1.8 last year, it's a Monday 10pm improvement for CBS.

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  97. For a 7th season show at 10pm, that's great for Castle, even if it adjuts down.

    It was obvious that Gotham would begin to slip after the premiere, but I'm pleased that it's not that big a drop (look at AoS, although that might be an unfair comparison because having premiered much higher than Gotham, it had way more viewers to lose). I hope it stabilizes at 2.5 and up. Once TBBT, the biggest geek magnet on network TV, is gone, that ought to help.

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  98. I didn't know NCIS LA move to Monday, have to said they did better than h50 when they were on Monday.

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  99. I think Fox should move Sleepy Hollow to Friday, who they're going to compete with?

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  100. If Castle stays to close to 2.0 everybody can open a champagne, it would be a great result. No matter what my opinion is about the show, an achievement must be acknowledge.

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  101. Oh Sleepy Hollow. Damn it. I'm changing my pic so that I won't jinx you anymore.

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  102. All right, all right Castle and Gotham I'm sorry about Sleepy Hollow dropped a little bit for the fans of that show, I hope it's only temporary!!!!

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  103. Sleepy Hollow got what Almost Human was getting when it was cancelled. I'm scared for this show.


    Fox shows really slip quickly.

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  104. Fox really is getting closer and closer to CW's numbers all the time.I think they will have to judge their shows differently - possibly soon.

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  105. Shows on Friday tend not to do as well, even though there is less competition, so that's not really ideal unless SH really has a fanbase with numbers.

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  106. Well, to be frank, as a SH viewer, I think it's their fault. Starting this season with that 1 year later dream sequence after such a long break and leaving viewers wondering what was going on for what felt like too many minutes? It almost turned me off, and it probably turned off quite a few of the more casual viewers. It's no surprise to me that the half-hours ratings of that episode were 2.2\1.8..

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