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Ratings News - 23rd October 2014

23 Oct 2014

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Today's Early Overnight Ratings

Top 25 Markets - 18-49
Thanks as always to ED for the Top 25 Numbers.

Fox WS 3.7
Arrow 1.1
100 0.6
Survivor 2.3
Criminal Minds 2.2
Stalker 1.3
Middle 2.0
Goldbergs. 2.4
Modern 4.1
Black-ish 2.9
Nashville 1.4
Mysteries of Laura 1.3
SVU 1.8
CPD 1.6


This table shows the early overnight ratings. These ratings are normally adjusted later in the day when all the ratings have been consolidated to take into account any local preemptions and/or overruns. You can find all the final adjusted numbers in our Ratings Database. (See the About section below for details about ratings)

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Early Ratings Analysis

The analysis below is based on the early household numbers and are NOT the same as the numbers that will be posted in the above table later. (See the About section below)

For more information on the Nielsen Ratings see this Wikipedia Entry.

NOTE: The opinions expressed here are NOT those of SpoilerTV but of the Author of this Article, Marc Berman.

Metered Market Wednesday Ratings
“The World Series” Picks Up Steam on Fox

Wednesday 10/22/14

Household
Rating/Share
Fox 8.2/13
CBS 5.7/ 9
ABC 5.1/ 8
NBC 5.0/ 8
CW 1.6/ 2

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-Percent Change from Year-Ago Evening – Thursday 10/24/13:
NBC: +35, ABC: + 4, Fox and The CW: -11 each, CBS: -16

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Note: The following labels are based on the household overnights and are subject to change given the availability of other pending data streams. As always, these overnights are your first look at the ratings and a precursor to what could lie ahead. And we take into account other benchmarks including the expected demographic ratings, potential DVR usage, the critical acclaim (or lack of) and the social media presence. Fox, on the flipside, dipped by 49 percent.

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-Winners:
“The World Series,” Game 2 (Fox), “Survivor” (CBS), “Modern Family” (ABC), “Black-ish” (ABC)

-Honorable Mention:
“The Middle” (ABC), “The Goldbergs” (ABC)

-Fading:
“Stalker” (CBS)

-Positive Older-Skewing Options:
“The Mysteries of Laura” (NBC), “Law & Order: SVU” (NBC), “Chicago PD” (NBC)

-Losers (excluding repeats):
“The 100” (CW), “Nashville” (ABC)

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Ratings Breakdown:
Game two of San Francisco vs. Kansas City on “The World Series” (Royals 7, Giants 2), as expected, led Fox to a Wednesday night overnight victory. The network averaged an estimated 8.9 rating/14 share in households from 8-11 p.m. ET, peaking in the 10 p.m. half-hour at a 10.3/16. Comparably, this was five percent above the 8.5/14 for game one of San Francisco vs. Kansas City on Tuesday (8.5/14). And that game translated into 12.19 million viewers and a 3.4 rating/11 share among adults 18-49, based on the Live + Same Day data, which tied the 2012 Texas-San Francisco match-up as the smallest opening World Series ratings sever.

One year earlier, game one of the St. Louis Cardinals at the Boston Red Sox on “The World Series” averaged a 10.0/17 in the overnights on Fox (on 10/13/13), with game two at a 9.2/15 on 10/24/13. In other words, while San Francisco vs. Kansas City is by no means a powerhouse, it has still lifted struggling Fox (which is obviously hoping for a seven-game series).

In sophomore season-premiere news, CW drama “The 100” opened with a 1.2/ 2 in the overnights at 9 p.m. (#5), which was 20 percent below failed year-ago occupant “The Tomorrow People” (1.5/ 2 on 10/23/13) and 37 percent below the 8:30 p.m. portion of lead-in “Arrow” (1.9/ 3). Last season, “The 100” debuted with a 1.9/ 3 on March 19 (and that translated into 2.73 million viewers and a 0.9/ 3 among adults 18-49, based on the Live + Same Day data).

Overall, “Arrow” on The CW averaged a 2.0/ 3 from 8-9 p.m.

Despite facing “The World Series,” the competing networks were all on par from one week earlier. Veteran “Survivor” on CBS, which took a turn for the better by mixing up the teams, finished second at 8 p.m. with a 5.8/ 9 in the household overnights. And that should translate in the vicinity of a 2.3 rating among adults 18-49. Next was “Criminal Minds” at a third-place 6.3/10 at 9 p.m., which dipped by 16 percent from the 7.5/12 one year earlier, followed by week four of drama “Stalker” at a series-low 4.8/ 8, which was 28 percent below “CSI” one year earlier (6.7/12 on 10/23/13).

One potential option in the near future for CBS might be to shift “Criminal Minds” to Wednesday at 10 p.m. out of a new drama option at 9 p.m. How about “CSI: Cyber,” CBS, which will be lost on Sunday?

“Modern Family,” of course, was the Wednesday standout on ABC with a 7.2/11 (#2) at 9 p.m. And it led into full-season renewed freshman “Black-ish” at a 5.7/ 9 (#3) at 9:30 p.m., which was 12 percent above the 5.1/ 8 one week earlier. Comparably, overnight retention for “Black-ish” out of “Modern Family” of 79 percent was better than the 55 percent for “Super Fun Night” out of “Modern Family” on the year-ago evening.

Earlier in the evening on ABC was “The Middle” at a consistent 5.0/ 8 at 8 p.m. (#4), followed by compatible “The Goldbergs” at a 4.6/ 7 (#4) at 8:30 p.m. Quiet “Nashville” capped off the night with a fourth-place 3.9/ 7 at 10 p.m., which was equal to one year earlier and could ultimately land a fourth season renewal if ABC is in need of more episodes for off-network.

Over at NBC, older-skewing “The Mysteries of Laura” scored a third-place 5.5/ 9 at 8 p.m., which was a hefty 49 percent above former time period occupant “Revolution” on the year-ago evening (3.7/ 6 on 10/23/13). And the improved lead-in support remains beneficial to veteran lead-out “Law & Order: SVU” (#4: 5.0/ 8 at 9 p.m.), which rose by 16 percent year-to-year. Sophomore “Chicago PD” was flat from one week earlier at a 4.6/ 8 (#3) at 10 p.m., which was 44 percent above the revival of failed year-ago occupant “Ironside” (3.2/ 6 on 10/23/13). Chances are NBC will be announcing a full season episode order for “The Mysteries of Laura” at any moment.

Source: Nielsen Media Research data


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165 comments:

  1. Excellent for Black-ish.


    Ouch at The 100. It use to retain a lot more out of Arrow. It may skew younger but doubt it.


    Series lows in overnights for TMOL and Stalker, even Criminal Minds looks kinda low.

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  2. I'll wait to see The 100's demo before making any judgment, but I hate to see it's low on the HH :(. But then again The Originals scored a 0.7 with a 0.9 in HH, so patience is a must... it's just not looking that good right now. Hopefully both The 100 and Arrow did good

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  3. great for abc comedies

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  4. I don't get how Nashville is a loser when PD and it do roughly the same in the demo

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  5. Go Black-ish!!!!! That episode last night was once again fantastic!!!

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  6. Also, The Goldbergs returned even!!

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  7. well at least Arrow is up in the HH ratings from last week.

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  8. NOOOOO. I hope Marc and the overnights are wrong, I don't want the 100 to do badly.

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  9. seriously the 100 was amazing!

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  10. I keep on saying CBS should put CSI back on Wednesday night... CM / CSI was strong...

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  11. I personally feel it's time to end CSI, it had a great run

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  12. I often disagree with him and I definetely don't think we can do this based on the overnights, but based on past weeks, my argument would be: Chicago PD does a tad better than Nashville in the demo, Chicago PD has much more favorable subdemos (particularly with males) and Chicago PD holds its lead-in much better than Nashville which often posts ~50% retention.

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  13. The 100 was so good yesterday.

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  14. What's The 100 about? I been having way too much free time at work(7 and a half out of 8 hours) and while i spent most of that time writing i wanted to see if i can watch another show...

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  15. I hope Arrow does better than last week and The 100's demo is much better.

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  16. HH are the same as for the S3 premiere, up from 1.9 it did last week. Lets hope for the best.

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  17. Hopefully Arrow goes up this week

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  18. Let's hope it's only the world series competition and not a real decline. Andof course, better demos

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  19. I agree they need to end give a decent ending to the show. Though it was a big mistake to put it on Sunday night... I hope they'll renew CSI for one more year to end it and give it a better time slot... It has much more potential than ending on Sunday at 10.30pm

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  20. Fionn (was Teen Wolfers)23 October 2014 at 15:03

    NOOO!!! OH I so hope the actual demo is higher for The 100!

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  21. CW would have done better premiering the 100 last week.

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  22. 0.6 in the top25 markets for the 100.. I am depressed right now.

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  23. SO I guess Arrow will be 0.8-0.9 and the 100 will be 0.4-0.5

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  24. Agreed. CSI pretty much won the time slot every week. Stalker is not the hit that CBS envisioned.

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  25. doesn't it usually adjust down?

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  26. Arrow appears to be up or even so I am not sure we can point to that. I am really fearing a series low at this point since the cw always tends to decline from the top 25 markets. So sad.

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  27. I see a short final season

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  28. Patrick Ausgewahlt23 October 2014 at 15:10

    Criminal Minds always gets hit hard from World Series and CMA's. Moreso than even the Olympics or Thanksgiving Eve. It's quite strange

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  29. IT could still be the WS. Arrow was uncharacteristically down last week.

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  30. Fionn (was Teen Wolfers)23 October 2014 at 15:11

    From the Top 25? Yes but I posted that before the top 25 went up :( Hopefully by some miracle it goes higher

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  31. Fionn (was Teen Wolfers)23 October 2014 at 15:11

    Same :(

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  32. Dont CBS shows usually adjust up?

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  33. I really hope The 100 gets at least a 0.6. I seriously don't want the show to get canceled. It's really good and there's nothing like it on tv.

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  34. biggest mistake if they cancel it

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  35. Fionn (was Teen Wolfers)23 October 2014 at 15:14

    I'm not sure I don't really follow CBS ratings other than Scorpion, I don't remember it going up

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  36. Fionn (was Teen Wolfers)23 October 2014 at 15:15

    It's CW's best show by far imo, but even a 0.6 isn't good enough for a premiere, it would definitely drop over the season :(

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  37. not always...

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  38. I pray that you are right.

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  39. Fionn (was Teen Wolfers)23 October 2014 at 15:16

    Oh, I don't follow Stalker, but there ya go :)

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  40. 100:( At least Arrow seems ok, even with the WS. Last night's episode was the one I was looking forward to the most, just not what I expected. Not as much Malcolm/Thea as I thought.

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  41. if the ratings are low it's not really a mistake though

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  42. like u mean in the market or the final ratings?

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  43. 100 is toast if iZombie or Messengers do better

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  44. Not really. iZombie is WB and The Messengers is CBS. The 100 is a co-production. If The Messengers does well then Reign or Jane are toast.

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  45. i really hope they did some mistakes with those markets ratings

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  46. Fionn (was Teen Wolfers)23 October 2014 at 15:18

    Going up from the market ratings

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  47. yup last week was 1.5 and the final ratings went up to 1.7

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  48. Arrow's top 25 last week was also 1.1 right?

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  49. I would not be surprised to see CBS making some changes. Even if CSI has only 18 episodes this year it could be back on Wednesday if Stalker dips too much on the next few weeks. Stalker and CSI could be switched.

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  50. ABC: It has to hope that Black-ish remains stable and then builds for next season. It's getting to the point where it might take over a tentpole position in a season or two.
    CBS: I just don't see Stalker making it past this season, unless CBS cancels a lot and is really concerned about its drama development for next season. Also, CBS should consider moving CM to 10:00 PM and trying to use the still-strong Survivor to boost a new show.
    CW: Ehh, whatever.
    NBC: I still think it should considering blowing up this night, but what it does with the shows is far from clear. Maybe it could try them on Saturdays.

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  51. I have a feeling The 100 will be fine. If it does 0.6 constantly, it should get renewed.

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  52. If it does terrible and gets to Reigns numbers it is definitely toast no matter who owns what ... CW needs to do amazing to survive past next season not subpar

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  53. Yes, that's true but The Messengers doing well won't affect The 100 it will affect the other CBS shows.

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  54. that's if the .06 sticks in the final

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  55. Really? I seem to remember it being a 1.1 lol. so the demos might go up from last week's 0.8

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  56. It depends on the show. Some go up, somo go down. Marry Me stayed the sane yesterday, so we cab expect the ratings to be somewhere near the esrly ratings, but we can't tell if its going up or down

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  57. Fionn (was Teen Wolfers)23 October 2014 at 15:23

    I'll be surprised if it's able to hold 0.6 each week, although I was surprised it was able to do it last season as well so who knows :/

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  58. It's unlikely the actual rating will be 0.6 so. It will more likely be 0.4-0.5.

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  59. I don't remember CW shows holding its top25 markets results. They always tend to go down.

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  60. I live overseas and I don't understand why everyone talk about the cw when it gets the worst ratings. LMFAO
    The cw should have the best ratings, based on the comments. It's nonsense!

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  61. seriously why can cw hit more than 2.0?

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  62. 100 is still CBS whether it is co produced or not... I think WB and CBS would both rather cut their loses on something owned by both than something owned solely by one or the other in order to bring something better

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  63. CW shows are popular online.

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  64. I really don't know!

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  65. It does look bad for Stalker, doesn't it?

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  66. Well Arrows top 25 is up from last week. So hopefully that translates into a 1.0 or 0.9

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  67. Thanks for the explanation. I think you are right but still. They are too low.

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  68. mm interesting so it would make sense if it got a 0.9.

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  69. The CW is distributed to a smaller number of markets/homes unlike the big networks like ABC/FOX/CBS/NBC which is distributed to a much larger number of homes.

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  70. CM does very well - it holds or building on Survivor and is opposite a similar "type" show (SVU). No, CM shouldn't be shuttled to 10 to suffer drop, but continue to be used to feed a 10 pm. show. Stalker seemed like the perfect fit, but it is bad. I tried to watch it 3 times - during different segments (at least 10-15 minutes) and nothing about it makes me want to keep watching

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  71. I don't see CBS cancelling a lot as well, usually most of their new shows are flopping... They are mostly known for NCIS, Criminal Minds and CSI (worldwide). Even if those shows are down they are earning a lot of money thanks to their WW lucrative success which is not the case of the news shows + shows like Person of Interest, Blue Bloods and Hawaii 5-O. + They are already cancelling Two and a Half Men and Mentalist after this year. To me Stalker is going to be cancelled and probably CSI Cyber (I can't see it doing well with a debut on Sunday at 10pm...). Maybe Blue Bloods or Hawaii.

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  72. Oh! I understand. Things like these don't exist in my country.
    Thanks for your reply.

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  73. You are so lucky....

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  74. yeah :) i hope the 100 atleast do a 0.5, or even better if they hold the 0.6 I always cheer for the CW.

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  75. Yeah, I have to admit that the show turned out to be something different to what I was expecting. No, I don't see Stalker lasting five seasons and CBS only keeps shows that have the best ratings/demos. They got high expectations.

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  76. The Mysteries of Laura is hanging on to that 1.3.

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  77. It was a great episode last night. If it's up, especially against the World Series, the CW will be haplh

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  78. To be fair, the difference is quite minimal. The CW is available in more than 95% of the markets last I've heard, so I am not really sure we can use that as a proper reasoning. I think it's simply a lower viewed network despite it's abnormal popularity online which skews our perceptions.

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  79. 9pm shows do. SPN always does or goes down 0.1 only, 8 pm shows always go down more.

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  80. Oh, I always thought that it was not distributed in as many markets. I guess I need to read up more in Wikipedia ;)

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  81. I hope you're right then!

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  82. Well, POI and Elementary were both recently solid into syndication in the U.S.
    I don't see many obvious targets for cancellation. Even shows that are kind of, sort of question marks--Madam Secretary, for instance--are doing well enough to get a renewal. Plus, there's syndication for a bunch of shows, as you said.
    A new show doing well means one less slot, sure, but CBS still has the option of having shows share a time slot. My guess is, they will wrap up a show like TGW earlier than normal next year, if it is in fact the last season, and then premiere something new in the slot in the spring. I could even see them doing this for something like CM or Elementary. Best of both words, to some degree.

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  83. Fionn (was Teen Wolfers)23 October 2014 at 16:08

    The 100 got a 0.5, half hours were 0.5/0.5...I'm sad now


    I seriously hope it goes up next week, I'm just gonna blame the world series

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  84. What's the site for the subdemos again?
    To what you added, I'd say there's the Dick Wolf factor. Both CPD and CF seem like the sort of show that would do well in syndication. NBC owns both, and it was patient with CF, so perhaps, with more time--CPD is only in its second season--it could get stronger, too.

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  85. But I think it could hold that audience if it moves to 10:00, and that would be a plus for CBS. Survivor still does pretty well in the demo, and it could be good support for a new show. Win-win for CBS.

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  86. It is probably the WS. The premiere was really good so I think it will go up next week.

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  87. the 100 doesnt deserve those ratings at all!

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  88. Me too. At least is doing better than Reign so it's not the lowest rated show.

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  89. Please an adjusted for The 100

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  90. Fionn (was Teen Wolfers)23 October 2014 at 16:12

    Only by 0.1 though :/ I guess we'll have to wait and see how it does next week but it's not looking good

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  91. Fionn (was Teen Wolfers)23 October 2014 at 16:12

    I really hope your right!

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  92. im so happy that Stalker is stable

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  93. Arrow up from last week with a 0.9!

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  94. Fionn (was Teen Wolfers)look from 1.3-to 1.7

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  95. Arrow's up!!!! Yes!!!!

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  96. Fionn (was Teen Wolfers)23 October 2014 at 16:18

    If only The 100 rose like that!

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  97. ABC very solid. Glad The Middle held its rating from 2 weeks ago despite the pre-emption.

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  98. Here are the 1/2 hr breakdowns

    8:00 p.m.

    ABC – The Middle
    Viewers: 7.23 million (#4), A18-49: 2.0/ 7 (#3)

    CBS – Survivor
    Viewers: 8.99 million (#2), A18-49: 2.2/ 7 (#2)

    NBC – The Mysteries of Laura
    Viewers: 7.71 million (#3), A18-49: 1.2/ 4 (#4)

    Fox – 2014 World Series, Game 2 (San Francisco vs. Kansas City)
    Viewers: 10.88 million (#1), A18-49: 2.6/ 9 (#1)

    CW – Arrow
    Viewers: 2.54 million (#5), A18-49: 0.9/ 3 (#5)

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    ABC – The Goldbergs
    Viewers: 6.98 million (#4), A18-49: 2.2/ 7 (#3)

    CBS – Survivor
    Viewers: 9.23 million (#2), A18-49: 2.3/ 7 (#2)

    NBC – The Mysteries of Laura
    Viewers: 8.43 million (#3), A18-49: 1.4/ 4 (#4)

    Fox – 2014 World Series, Game 2 (San Francisco vs. Kansas City)
    Viewers: 11.10 million (#1), A18-49: 2.9/ 9 (#1)

    CW – Arrow
    Viewers: 2.46 million (#5), A18-49: 0.9/ 3 (#5)

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    9:00 p.m.

    ABC – Modern Family
    Viewers: 9.97 million (#2), A18-49: 3.3/10 (#1)

    CBS – Criminal Minds
    Viewers: 9.89 million (#3), A18-49: 2.4/ 7 (#3)

    NBC – Law & Order: SVU
    Viewers: 7.24 million (#4), A18-49: 1.5/ 5 (#4)

    Fox – 2014 World Series, Game 2 (San Francisco vs. Kansas City)
    Viewers: 10.76 million (#1), A18-49: 2.8/ 8 (#2)

    CW – The 100 (season premiere)
    Viewers: 1.62 million (#5), A18-49: 0.5/ 2 (#5)

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    9:30 p.m.

    ABC – Black-ish
    Viewers: 8.01 million (#3), A18-49: 2.5/ 7 (#2)

    CBS – Criminal Minds
    Viewers: 9.76 million (#2), A18-49: 2.4/ 7 (#3)

    NBC – Law & Order: SVU
    Viewers: 7.21 million (#4), A18-49: 1.6/ 5 (#4)

    Fox – 2014 World Series, Game 2 (San Francisco vs. Kansas City)
    Viewers: 10.99 million (#1), A18-49: 2.9/ 8 (#2)

    CW – The 100 (season premiere)
    Viewers: 1.50 million (#5), A18-49: 0.5/ 1 (#5)

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    10:00 p.m.

    ABC – Nashville
    Viewers: 5.67 million (#4), A18-49: 1.5/ 4 (#3t)

    CBS – Stalker
    Viewers: 7.59 million (#2), A18-49: 1.8/ 5 (#2)

    NBC – Chicago PD
    Viewers: 6.79 million (#3), A18-49: 1.5/ 4 (#3t)

    Fox – 2014 World Series, Game 2 (San Francisco vs. Kansas City)
    Viewers: 12.08 million (#1), A18-49: 3.2/10 (#1)

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    10:30 p.m.

    ABC – Nashville
    Viewers: 5.14 million (#4), A18-49: 1.3/ 4 (#4)

    CBS – Stalker
    Viewers: 7.05 million (#2), A18-49: 1.6/ 5 (#2)

    NBC – Chicago PD
    Viewers: 6.86 million (#3), A18-49: 1.5/ 5 (#3t)

    Fox – 2014 World Series, Game 2 (San Francisco vs. Kansas City)
    Viewers: 10.96 million (#1), A18-49: 3.1/10 (#1)

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  99. I am so happy Arrow is up, I was really worried it would hit a new low from the World Series.

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  100. Can anyone tell me the site for the sub demos? I can't recall what it is.

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  101. It's official Black-ish is the best new comedy of this fall for me.

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  102. My favorite new comedy now.

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  103. Damn for The 100 i was expecting 0.6 to 0.7. The goldbergs is doing great on that new slot. way better than tuesdays.

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  104. Great for Arrow.

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  105. Not good for The 100, Flash repeats did better

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  106. Ya but the 95% is still the lowest network coverage out of the 5 networks. Then there is the fact that CW's major demo is young people which tend not to be Nielsen viewers.

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  107. Let's hope when the world series ends, The 100 will do better.

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  108. 18-34 ratings per showbuzzdaily
    CW
    Arrow: 0.9
    The 100: 0.4

    ABC
    The Middle: 1.0
    The Goldbergs: 1.2
    MF: 2.2
    Blackish: 1.5
    Nashville: 0.9

    CBS
    Survivor: 1.2
    Criminal Minds: 1.3
    Stalker: 0.9

    NBC
    Laura: 0.8
    SVU: 1.3
    Chicago PD: 1.2

    FOX
    World Series: 2.5

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  109. I'm going to blame the CW for starting the new series of the 100 when the world series is on.

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  110. Fionn (was Teen Wolfers)23 October 2014 at 16:38

    Lol that's what im doing to, I don't understand why they premiered it so late tbh, they didn't need to put repeats of The Flash after Arrow at all, it was always going to do really well

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  111. Did about the same, but yeah, not really good

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  112. Praying for The 100 to adjust up

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  113. CW press release

    via press notes:

    Facing Game 2 of the World Series, Arrow hit the mark last night, scoring its best rating in M18-34 (1.1/5) since 1/29/14, and rising +29% week to week in A18-34 (0.9/4), matching its season premiere.

    Arrow also rose +12% week to week in A18-49 (0.9/3), +8% in total viewers (2.5M), and jumped +40% in W18-34 (0.7/3).

    Arrow was #2 (tie) in the hour in M18-34 and beat NBC in the hour in A18-34.

    Versus this same week last season, Arrow was up +12% in A18-34 and +38% in M18-34, and even in A18-49.

    The season premiere of THE 100 returned in line with last season's finale, matching its A18-49 rating (0.5/1) and off slightly in total viewers (1.6M).



    Week to week, The CW's Wednesday night was up +20% in A18-34 (0.6/2), up +2% in total viewers (2M), and even in A18-49 (0.7/2).

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  114. Even if Messengers does well,Reign is closer to syndication.The 100 is probably gonna be two seasons and done since it won't have 44 episodes.Reign will be renewed over Jabne,Messengers,The 100.Heres how it'll be
    First the shows that are doing well:Arrow,Flash,SPN,VD( unless contract negotiations go poor and this is made the last season.
    Then the middling to poor rated performers close to syndication:TO,Reign
    Then whatever other show or two left needed to fill the schedule and still pick up 4-5 new shows

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  115. Sad about The 100, but I figured this would happen because the CW didn't really promote it much. I'm hoping it's party because of the world series?

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  116. Meh Arrow. Ouch ouch ouch The 100.

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  117. Arrow did a pretty good job. I think it lost some of the 18-49 demo, but it rose up in total viewership.

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  118. Agreed.
    It is the only new sitcom that makes me laugh consistently...


    Wait and see about the McCarthy's though... I know most on this site panned it, but it could prove to be one of those CBS comedies that gets good ratings despite not being funny to people here. I did not love the promos, but you never know...

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  119. its up from last week. And had the same demo in 18-34 as for their premiere.

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  120. Why meh? It increased from last week and against the World Series.

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  121. True. I guess I just have overly high expectations.

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  122. The akward moment, when I am sorry for the fans of 100 or Reign and on the other hand smiling because I was a TTP Fan. Sorry

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  123. eeehhh....66 episodes is STILL far away from syndication...

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  124. Hopefully there will be no Game 7 next Wednesday in the WS .... otherwise it will be bad again for the TV shows... Sad for The 100 it was a really good first episode of the season. Thankfully Chicago PD is steady.

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  125. I'd still argue that cancelling TTP was a mistake. The show had no constant storyline, it told its arc through various villain of the week episodes. This show was way easier to sell to syndication. 44 episodes of a motw drama is better than 44 episodes of a show with a constant storyline

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  126. I was afraid it would drop lower like it dropped the same week last season, but this is much better :)

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  127. Still,CW exsist to syndicate thier shows ,they've never cancelled a show with two or three full seasons before-no show with 44 or 66 episodes have been cancelled

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  128. yes but they can't syndicate Reign that easily. Think about it: it's heavily serialized what network is going to take that show up?
    TVD has issues finding buyers as well.


    Just because it hasn't happened, doesen't mean it won't. Prepare for the worst, hope for the best is all I'm saying

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  129. OMG! Nooooo ... The 100 was so good ... but the ratings are horrid! I really hope it picks up :(

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  130. Gossip Girl,Veronica Mars ,Nikita,One Tree Hill from CW are all syndicated so serialzed shows do sell in syndication

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  131. Nikita was renewed for syndication getting 0.2-0.3 so was HoD,

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  132. can't speak for OTH as I haven't watched it but VMars was not serialized, it had cases of the week and didn't require much knowledge to get into. Nikita also had villain of the week episodes. A lot like SPN

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  133. So?TTP was doing worse than either Reign or The 100 at the end of last season and wouldn't be doing better than them now

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  134. vM also had sealized season LNG mysteries and Nikita had serialized plot lines at times too.

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  135. VM never had a serialized season, every season had a plotline running throughout episodes (Lillys murder, Logan being accused of murder, the rapist) but always had cases of the week in the forefront.
    Nikita did the exact same, cases of the week with a plotline in the back

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  136. Holding The 100 back and then premiering the week of the world series was kind of a bonehead move, really. Hopefully it'll tick upwards as the weeks press on as it really is a great show.

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  137. I watch all three shows and while I agree TTP should not have been cancelled, I'd argue that it wasn't Reign or The 100 that should have been either to make a spot for it -- that award goes to Beauty and the Beast.

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  138. Arrow's up from last week :) Ouch for The 100:( Such a great show. I hope they go up next week.

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  139. SHIELDNCISArrowfan23 October 2014 at 21:28

    I could see Arrow adjust up to 1.0 or 1.1

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  140. Ok.Gossip Girl & OTH were serialzed yet were syndicated,Desperate Housewives too.

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  141. Why?By the end of the season TTP had no better ratings than BatB.BatB did well internationally & I heard TTP didn't p,us it lost half it's audience in the UK
    BatB is cheaper to produce and was more stable in ratings-though at awful ratings while TTP kept steadily decling all season.
    BatB is CBS and in a joint venture that CW is it isn't wrong for CBS to want a more fairly dived schedule of WB or WB/CBS shows & CBS shows

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  142. That's as passive aggressive and childish as I've seen any post be on this site. Ridiculous.

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  143. Actually, I find the total viewership means more than just the 18-49 demo, which, ironically is what The CW probably focuses on the most.

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  144. Nope CW focuses on 18-34 ratings. So while the networks like to go on and on about the viewership numbers in press releases, the advertisers dont really care about it. Thats why its just PR fluff.

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  145. I just said that….The CW focuses more on the 18-49 demo(which, I thought it was the 18 thru 49 demo…didn't know it was 18-34).

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  146. As I recall, BATB's ratings were still far worse than TTPs at the end of their season, . Sponsors don't care as much about international ratings

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  147. Exactly. About McCarthy, it's good to know, thanks for the tip, I will catch up when start.

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  148. wait for the finals! Stalker did the same as last week and is still the best rated 10pm show for CBS

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  149. wait for finals Stalker was steady!

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  150. Yes they were.Still the BatB/TTP things was Secret Circle/HoD all over again-HoD was cheaper to produce,stable in ratings but low rated.Secret Circle was exspensive to make,started high in ratings but declined all season.HoD won that fight & BatB won its fight.Its the fact & point that BatB was stable in ratings.TTP would've kept loosing Viewrs had it been renewed.

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  151. It just sounds like you're grasping at any kind of straw to argue why BATB was doing so much better than TTP. You lost any credibility as an "expert" after stating (with certainty) that it had the same ratings as TTP.

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  152. No I'm not lashing out.You are.Im explainng why BatB was renewed over your precious TTP and I never said BatB had better ratings,just the same at the end of the season(BatB did mainly 0.3s all season with two 0.2s,one Or two 0.4 .TTP started at 0.9 and at the end of the season got 0.3-0.4).So I do know the ratings.

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  153. No, you said their ratings were the same. They weren't. Period.

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  154. Tvmediainsights has them. And I agree with the Wolf factor!

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  155. well but batb isn't in the picture anymore because it is a summershow now.

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  156. maybe, maybe not. we will never know. But Reign or 100 are doing really bad on two normally good spots. TTP where on monday. This is a different.

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