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Agents of SHIELD - Episode 2.18 - The Frenemy of My Enemy - Sneak Peek 2

20 Apr 2015

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141 comments:

  1. Misscar20 April 2015 at 20:27

    This is why I love Coulson.

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  2. Bruce_F20 April 2015 at 20:29

    Outlaw Coulson is more fun than Director Coulson.

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  3. Historical_Materialist20 April 2015 at 20:29

    Nice!


    Ward hooking up with 33 was pretty obvious, but I doubt its anything serious on his end. He's a douche. He's a guy. It's awesome.


    I've said this before and if I'm wrong, I'm wrong but I'm almost certain they're setting up Ward to become "Paladin". He's got the sh*t eating grin and douchiness down, all he needs is his specialized armor. From there he would travel around as soldier of fortune "have gun will travel" as the card says.


    Sounds a lot like a possible spin off scenario.

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  4. Justin Valdes20 April 2015 at 20:30

    "Hey sweetie. Why don't you drop by? Love to catch up." God, Phil Coulson is THE MAN. Such a badass. I'm still so wary about tomorrow's episode but I have faith in the writers. I just hope that this team up doesn't end up with Grant back with the team. It's way too soon.

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  5. Monjia20 April 2015 at 20:30

    "Hey sweetie, lot time to catch up " Gosh, Coulson I love you. And are f****ing kidding me Ward?!!!!!

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  6. ThulaLani20 April 2015 at 20:32

    Gross Ward.

    Love Coulson, lol.

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  7. pink_tentacle20 April 2015 at 20:32

    lol Coulson: hey sweetie

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  8. ThulaLani20 April 2015 at 20:35

    Opposite of what "WE" wanted, which is what exactly?


    Kara does seem to be back to herself.

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  9. klutzy_girl20 April 2015 at 20:37

    I am happy she does seem to be back to herself. And not a single (rational) person I've talked to wanted romantic Ward/Kara.

    All we wanted was two people becoming friends and helping each other overcome the abuse they both suffered. That's it.

    But a lot of us are now thinking it's a cover so I'm not going to jump to conclusions.

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  10. ThulaLani20 April 2015 at 20:41

    I wanted Kara far away from Ward but I don't believe it was for the same reasons you did.

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  11. ThulaLani20 April 2015 at 20:46

    True. But I love all of him, Agent, Director and Outlaw.

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  12. Monjia20 April 2015 at 20:54

    Coulson and his sense of humour OMG he's the best (kinda "Ward I'm gonna kick your ass" or "I'll always find you" or "I'm the director of SHIELD and you thought you could run away from me").

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  13. Dean20 April 2015 at 21:02

    Skyeward reunion will happen on the next episode and i have seen ridiculous expectation from shippers and it's just unbelivable. They really want a big scene and they talking about everything, forgiveness and angst sex scene. I don't get do we watch the same show? skyeward is by far the most unhealthy relationship on the show. How can people expect the tables to turn like nothing happend i don't get it. Would make no sense to writers to take that route after what they wrote on the mid season finale.

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  14. Justin Valdes20 April 2015 at 21:04

    Great to find another Ward/Fitz shipper before the betrayal! I feel like they're so rare in this fandom haha but I loved their dynamic ("The Hub" was heaven for me) in the first half of season 1 but of course that all diminished when Grant betrayed everyone. And agreed. When a ship becomes so toxic for both individuals and everyone around them, it's time to bury the hatchet. IMO, there's no way that there would EVER be a plausible reasoning for Skye to get back with Ward after all the bullshit that she went through with him. SHIELD would lose all it's credibility (and awesome points) if that happens.

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  15. RememberSekhmet20 April 2015 at 21:05

    Her father did some awful things because he loved the daughter who was taken from him and the wife who left him over losing that daughter. Jiaying got them talking again, and I think she will be reminded that Grant had kept his own promises to her, and she owes him at least some courtesy for that. But it will likely be too late.

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  16. john20 April 2015 at 21:06

    Yeh,I don't see that from her. That ship does not make sense at all, but this really is not the type of show that needs romance anyway. I didn't see them developing anything on Skye's end in connection to Ward, and she would not consider herself a monster or a victim by time this arc is over I think.

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  17. Christina20 April 2015 at 21:06

    Okay, I love rogue-Ward, so long as he stays rogue. That "hey baby" was kind of fantastic.

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  18. john20 April 2015 at 21:06

    I wouldn't say she owes him anything, considering he took her at gunpoint.

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  19. Stephen S. Bowman20 April 2015 at 21:09

    yea i agree far as i'm concerned that skyeward thing is almost completely over with i mean you have a very small chance that might happen again but you have a long ways to go to even think that would be a possible

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  20. Justin Valdes20 April 2015 at 21:10

    I know and it makes me want to throw up. Angst sex scene? Do they actually believe that she will accept him into her life so damn easily? I hope she quakes him if he even implies sexual stuff to her or something right then and there.

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  21. klutzy_girl20 April 2015 at 21:11

    I don't either but that's not the problem. It seems like Kara has regained her agency but she had none when we saw her in all previous episodes.

    But I'm not going to jump to conclusions about this and I'm still excited for tomorrow.

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  22. Stephen S. Bowman20 April 2015 at 21:12

    first time i've even read Angst sex scene wtf does that even mean lol and i could not seen her forgiving him so easly it might take multiple seasons to forgive him

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  23. Justin Valdes20 April 2015 at 21:15

    He's literally my damn hero. Every time he's being snarky is just awesome.

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  24. Alex Forrest20 April 2015 at 21:18

    SkyeLinc, sure (pending a reveal that Lincoln is evil, which I hope isn't coming). Ward/Kara, not so much. This is a brainwashed woman who turned to the first person who was kind to her for some sort of mentorship/emotional support once the person who brainwashed her was gone. Even if Ward WASN'T a murderer, traitor to the organization Kara previously worked for, and ex-member of a Nazi group, there's no way that relationship would be healthy or good for Kara.


    They need to find a way to un-brainwash Kara. Once she's in her right mind again and knows exactly who Ward is, and can make a rational decision whether or not to be with him (I wouldn't bet on it, personally...).

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  25. Justin Valdes20 April 2015 at 21:18

    So was I, ThulaLani. So was I. But this sneak peek really cheered me up. Hopefully we'll get more of this tomorrow.

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  26. Lauren20 April 2015 at 21:18

    Did anyone else feel that gut pain when ward called Kara babe.(skyeward fans)

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  27. Alex Forrest20 April 2015 at 21:19

    For what it's worth, I don't think FitzMack is dead yet. Seriously injured, yes, but there's a pulse there.

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  28. sparky4220 April 2015 at 21:21

    I could watch that again and again. Good to see the smug look that Ward has had on occasion wiped off.

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  29. ThulaLani20 April 2015 at 21:22

    If he ever said to her what he did last season about taking what he wanted, she definitely would and should quake him.

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  30. RememberSekhmet20 April 2015 at 21:22

    Like I said below, I don't expect Ward to pine away for a woman who shot him in the back. I think now that she's had some time with her father, another man who goes a bit far keeping promises to the woman he loves, Skye might be more likely to talk when they meet again, but I'm not expecting them to rush into one another's arms.

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  31. Alex Forrest20 April 2015 at 21:22

    I kind of feel bad for Kara, having a gun pointed at her by the Director of the organization she worked for before she was kidnapped and brainwashed into working against them. She doesn't deserve any of this crap. I hope they find a way to un-brainwash her.


    LOL @ Coulson's "Hey, baby". I love it when he's having fun. And being snarky.


    My feelings towards the character of Ward aside, scruffy Brett in that brown leather jacket is major yum.

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  32. swanpride20 April 2015 at 21:23

    Is it wrong that I stalked this site because I hoped another sneak peek will turn up????

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  33. RememberSekhmet20 April 2015 at 21:23

    You and me both

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  34. ThulaLani20 April 2015 at 21:24

    After watching episodes of Stalkers for a day, Skye better RUN fast from Ward. Dude is not well adjusted.

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  35. Karri20 April 2015 at 21:24

    Skye doesn't owe Ward anything. He kept a promise that as far as I could see she didn't even want him to keep. The fact that she had to be kidnapped off a plane supports that.

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  36. swanpride20 April 2015 at 21:25

    Yeah, that was my thought too...to be fair the last time the team encountered her she was attacking them, so it is understandable. I hope that when they can sit down and talk, Coulson is a little bit nicer towards her. Most of this is not her fault. I am glad that she seems to be better though, even if she is most likely still pretty messed up inside. I wonder if Ward really helped her or helped her to hide how badly her mental state actually is.

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  37. ThulaLani20 April 2015 at 21:26

    Exactly, she still wants nothing to do with her father, although, she's now found her mother and is learning more about herself.

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  38. Alex Forrest20 April 2015 at 21:26

    This is one thing I'm never, EVER going to understand: Skyeward fans going "awwww, he kept his promise!" over Ward kidnapping Skye and taking her to meet her father, something she didn't want to do. If someone promises to shoot me in the leg and then "keeps that promise", should that elicit an "awwww", too? My god, some people are literally blinded to logic and reason by their beloved ship.

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  39. ThulaLani20 April 2015 at 21:28

    Hopefully. As long they don't have Coulson prostrating himself at Ward's traitorous feet, I'm sure I can find a way sit through the whole episode without barfing or trying to tear my hair out.

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  40. Justin Valdes20 April 2015 at 21:29

    Right there with you.

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  41. Monjia20 April 2015 at 21:30

    Me too I just love when he's sarcastic

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  42. Alex Forrest20 April 2015 at 21:31

    Yeah, I can understand it Coulson's approach (she's definitely a potential threat from where he's standing, considering both what happened last time and the fact that she's with Ward these days), I just feel sorry for her.


    Regarding whether or not Ward has helped her: we don't know his intentions towards Kara, but I think that even if they're genuine, there's not much he can do. She needs some sort of professional help. She does seem less robotic than she did when working for Hydra, though, so I guess that remembering who she is and getting back in touch with her loved ones has helped somewhat.

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  43. Karri20 April 2015 at 21:31

    I love Coulson. Ward/Kara will continue to be gross as long as she is still brainwashed.

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  44. ThulaLani20 April 2015 at 21:32

    I hope they do unbrainwash her, under normal circumstances Coulson wouldn't point a gun at her but her actions with Ward have led to more people dying, Coulson can't expect Kara to be to old self at this stage. Her loyalty isn't to SHIELD (I'm so mad about this, she served it faithfully until Whitehall) it's now to Ward and that's not gonna look good to any SHIELD agent.

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  45. sparky4220 April 2015 at 21:33

    No, no it's not. Each day that they are meant to be up I'm in and out as much as I can. the Summer is going to be a killer :(

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  46. Justin Valdes20 April 2015 at 21:34

    That's true. That woman has been through hell and back and the number one priority right now for her is to be mentally healthy and be herself again, not look for love.

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  47. ThulaLani20 April 2015 at 21:34

    Ward can't even deal with his own issues in a healthy way I don't think we can expect him to help Kara in anyway that doesn't benefit him.

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  48. Alex Forrest20 April 2015 at 21:35

    I hope we get a moment where Fitz tells Ward not to think that he's bought his bullshit excuses from last time they met, and that he hates his guts and would gladly be doing anything at the moment other than working with him again.

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  49. sparky4220 April 2015 at 21:35

    Hell she needs Andrew I'd say. But yeah he knows she's fought May to a stand still and took down Skye, it's only reasonable that Coulson takes precautions.

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  50. ThulaLani20 April 2015 at 21:35

    Don't remind me. The last hiatus was horrible enough, great as Agent Carter was, I wanted my show back.

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  51. sparky4220 April 2015 at 21:36

    I know, it's going to be hard as hell.

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  52. ThulaLani20 April 2015 at 21:36

    Maybe that's an icer and not a real gun.

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  53. sparky4220 April 2015 at 21:37

    Could be, but I don't think I saw the blue telltale.

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  54. sparky4220 April 2015 at 21:39

    How is what Cal did the same as a Hydra operative? Seriously trying to tie the two together is nuts.

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  55. ThulaLani20 April 2015 at 21:39

    Which is such a tragedy that she ended up with Ward of all people. He's more likely to screw with her head further.

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  56. Alex Forrest20 April 2015 at 21:42

    That would mean more Blair Underwood on my screen, so yes, definitely. Plus I kinda want May and Andrew to get back together, she deserves some happiness... but I do realize that's unlikely to work with the show's format, none of the characters can exactly live in domestic bliss while staying on the show.

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  57. sparky4220 April 2015 at 21:42

    Well he did say he was going to "wake up the monster inside her", maybe it's time she shows him that monster.

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  58. Misscar20 April 2015 at 21:43

    I know but I just wanted so badly for Fitz to acknowledge that he was bi (or more likely pansexual) and for there to be a happy/functional same-sex couple in the MCU.

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  59. sparky4220 April 2015 at 21:44

    I know, I wasn't quite sure when they announced him how well May and Andrew would work but yeah it works brilliantly. Hell considering the craziness that Shield does, why don't they have a permant Shrink on call.

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  60. ThulaLani20 April 2015 at 21:44

    No, but we usually see that when it's fired and he hasn't fired it at her yet. It almost makes the same sound as a real gun but that blue flash helps distinguish it from one.


    Though, that episode poster shows what looks like real guns in some sort of mexican standoff between Ward/Kara and Coulson/Hunter. It's likely a real gun, Coulson being safe than sorry.


    I on the other hand am sorry because she shouldn't be in this situation at all.

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  61. sparky4220 April 2015 at 21:46

    Yeah, she's had crap luck so far, since refusing joining Coulson, Not sure how you have a standoff when Deathlock is one of the guys I mean, it's Deathlock. I can't wait to see their interactions considering how it played out before.

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  62. ThulaLani20 April 2015 at 21:46

    Which is technically what I love about the show, romance is fairly last on the writer's priorities, non of the melodrama it brings. AoS is a spy show and I'd like to keep it that way. If I want romance, I'll turn elsewhere. Yes we have hints of it but it's never there driving force of the stories unlike other shows.

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  63. ThulaLani20 April 2015 at 21:48

    It looks like a standoff, at least I am expecting one, Kara has knife to Fitz, Coulson probably pointing a gun at her, Ward ponts a gun at Coulson who's threaten Kara and Hunter is pointing at Ward, clearly concerned over Fitz. That's how I read that composition.

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  64. Alex Forrest20 April 2015 at 21:49

    If you think about it, he'd probably have a full-time job at the Playground, between the guy who was dumped in the ocean and is suffering from brain damage AND became estranged from his best friend after she left, the girl who is dealing with new frightening powers on top of her psychopath father and being reunited with her supposedly dead mother, the bickering ex-married-and-now-sorta-back-together-maybe? couple and their trust issues, all the betrayals going around and whatnot.

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  65. ThulaLani20 April 2015 at 21:50

    Isn't he still holding a candle for Jemma, their relationship has been rocky pretty much all of season 2 but still....

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  66. Alex Forrest20 April 2015 at 21:53

    Absolutely. On The Flash (which sooooo many people claim is much better), they interrupt the momentum of an episode where a man is about to go nuclear and kill millions so that Barry can go get his girlfriend back, or something. It's unbelievable. AoS has got its priorities straight - which is also why Skye has been written as a rational, moraled person who forgot all about her crush on Ward the second she found out who he really is. Hopefully, they continue to get it right and don't let the vocal shipper crowd influence their decisions.

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  67. sparky4220 April 2015 at 21:53

    Hell put it that way and add in the Director that came back from the dead through alien blood and started writing alien symbols, and May... Think it's enough for a whole team of shrinks year round.

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  68. Alex Forrest20 April 2015 at 21:56

    Oh, you mean as a romantic ship. Well yeah, it would definitely be nice to have a same-sex couple in the MCU (and FitzMack would've been cute). Victoria Hand and Isabelle Hartley could've been one if you hadn't killed them BOTH, writers *glares*

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  69. john20 April 2015 at 21:57

    That is at least closer and more possible than Skyward. Shaky, definetly, but it's not a train wreck. though I don't ship.

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  70. ThulaLani20 April 2015 at 21:59

    I don't ship FitzSimmons either but they are closer to making it that Skyeward will ever be.

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  71. Alex Forrest20 April 2015 at 22:00

    Yes, part of what makes this show so good is that the characters are multi-dimensional and believable. They, and the relationships between them, are believably affected by what happens around them. For example: Coulson's angry and mistrust of May after finding out she was spying on him for Fury last season, Fitz feeling abandoned by Simmons because she wasn't there for him when he was dealing with his brain damage. To have Skye so much as give Ward the time of the day again, after he's done things a thousand times worse than May and Simmons in the aforementioned examples, would throw all of that away. Let's keep Skye a realistic character... and not some weak-willed floozy like Elena Gilbert or Bella Swan who happily gives up her morals for the sake of a hot guy.

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  72. ThulaLani20 April 2015 at 22:01

    I'm still baffled about what supposedly makes Flash superior. I watch both shows and I don't see it but I've learnt to ignore people opinions because it is just that.

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  73. sparky4220 April 2015 at 22:01

    So EXTREMELY true, I don't mind having something in the background like Bobbi/Hunter but it's not a driving component of a storyline.

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  74. sparky4220 April 2015 at 22:04

    Just to be evil and annoy all the posters from the US, last episode before Avengers 2 :)

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  75. Alex Forrest20 April 2015 at 22:05

    It honestly seems that for a lot of people, the answer is as simple as "The Flash has a superhero in a cool costume fighting cool supervillains, AoS is about boring agents in suits". That's it.


    Personally, I find all the characters on both Arrow and The Flash two-dimensional and dull, and the plot utterly generic for the most part (although The Flash has been doing better with the Eobard Thawne storyline and surprise reveals; Arrow, this season, is just a huge boring mess).

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  76. Dean20 April 2015 at 22:06

    I know, right? that was around twitter and tumblr when press release for ep 19 was out. I'm not against shipping but Skyeward is that one ship that only awful stuff happened and i don't see them realistic coming back from everything. Ever since Ward betrayal nothing good happened to make anyone believe they will work out. Actually just the opposite happened. Not onlye he brought only pain to her life. Skye tried to hurt him every chance she got with words, shooting him and playing him. Where did they see signs she could suddenly understand/forgive him, love him back and have sex with him is beyong my human comprehension. They have a long way to even be able to be on the same room without trying to kill each other much less be in a relationship.

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  77. Misscar20 April 2015 at 22:07

    It's really really complicated but still plausible. Also that's why I said that Fitz would have to be at least bi because he obviously has feelings for both.

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  78. ThulaLani20 April 2015 at 22:07

    I'm watching that this Thurday and I couldn't be happier.

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  79. sparky4220 April 2015 at 22:07

    I haven't even bothered with Arrow, and kind of haven't watched Flash since the Christmas break, whereas i was counting down the days to AoS being back, and watch every episode as soon as it's up (both on the net and then on local TV a few days later)

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  80. sparky4220 April 2015 at 22:08

    Friday for me! Can't wait for it :)

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  81. Dean20 April 2015 at 22:10

    The promotional pics are indicating things might be back to normal between Lance and Mack so i'm sure is possible for Mack and Fitz.

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  82. ThulaLani20 April 2015 at 22:10

    I absolutely love the actor that plays Harrison/Eobard, whatever happens I don't think they can afford to lose him as a regular. He's a great foil for Barry, caricature characters like Captain Cold just leave me cold, lol.

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  83. Alex Forrest20 April 2015 at 22:13

    That one really confused me because honestly, in show time, it's only been a couple of weeks or so since Mack choked Hunter out, chained him to a sink and forcibly took him to Gonzales' ship. It's a HUGE stretch for Hunter to be sitting down and casually chatting with the guy. Wonder if it's another flashback.

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  84. sparky4220 April 2015 at 22:14

    Yeah now that he can hold full conversations with people again, it would be great to see him let Ward have it.

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  85. sparky4220 April 2015 at 22:15

    And can blame him for at least some of the clame for Trip as well. There's no way I see how Ward comes out as "Noble" in what he's done.

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  86. Alex Forrest20 April 2015 at 22:15

    Yeah. Tom Cavanagh is great and one of the only things making the show worthwhile. It will be interesting to see what the real Wells is like, if they manage to separate him from Thawne.

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  87. Dean20 April 2015 at 22:16

    She almost died twice because of his promise that day. If she wasn't a inhuman she would have died when Whitehall forced her to touch the obelisk and then he admited on everybody's face how he murdered her mom and would do the same to her. If it wasn't for Coulson team that could have happened because Cal had nothing under control and Ward could do nothing but yeah, it's cute he kept his promise. lol *throw up*

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  88. sparky4220 April 2015 at 22:16

    Forgive me Alex, but I just had to laugh at that example. So perfectly sums it up.

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  89. sparky4220 April 2015 at 22:18

    So acurate, not too mention that the entire team might have died from the Hydra attack. If they had and it still played out with her getting to see Daddy and getting her gift would that still be an "awww" moment? "Ah Ward you kept your promise to me, killed a bunch more of the people I consider family, but you are SO CUTE!"

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  90. ThulaLani20 April 2015 at 22:19

    ME TOO!!!!!!!!!

    I've never like Arrow and my last watched episode was the Christmas episode.The fact that it's on CW hurts the show, for me, they're known for fan pandering of the worst kind and I don't think The Flash is immune to that nonsense. I've weaned myself off The Flash.



    Aos is just a different show altogether. I stalk several websites, tumblr, facebook, twitter, you name it, just so I can get one tiny glimpse of a spoiler, I'm that impatient.

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  91. ThulaLani20 April 2015 at 22:20

    Must see tv right there! He could the words out last time (although his action spoke louder than words), I'd love to hear Fitz tell him where to get off.

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  92. ThulaLani20 April 2015 at 22:21

    Are you saying they are two separate people, like Firestorm?

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  93. ThulaLani20 April 2015 at 22:23

    None so blind as those who refuse o see.

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  94. Dean20 April 2015 at 22:25

    I don't hate Ward character but i hate when people try to make silly excuses about his actions and play like he is a victim and everything bad he did is justified and he deserves Skye because he kept his promise. If he did loved her he would never force her to a meeting she never wanted or put the people she loved (her friends) at risk just to make her see him for who he really is.

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  95. ThulaLani20 April 2015 at 22:26

    I don't think it's a flashback. Are the two SHIELDs joining forces against Hydra, instead of the one chasing the one that's chasing Hydra?

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  96. Dean20 April 2015 at 22:27

    This is a scenario where they would need to make peace with each other so i can see happenning.

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  97. sparky4220 April 2015 at 22:28

    So I'm not the only one. Like you for AoS I'll go hunting for info, the others don't really care. God so not looking forward to the break.

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  98. Alex Forrest20 April 2015 at 22:29

    Indeed. And also, Ward taking Skye was by leading Hydra to the Bus, which in turn led to them nearly blowing May, Trip, Hunter and the Koenigs out of the skye. But hey, shenanigans! Look at Brett Dalton's pretty face!


    Seriously, the ability of that fandom to twist everything or take it out of context to make Ward some sort of hero and this relationship not only plausible but totally romantic is nothing short of amazing. They should all be politicians or something.

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  99. Alex Forrest20 April 2015 at 22:31

    LOL, that's okay - that was the intended reaction. :)


    I'm starting to wonder if the reason these fans like Ward so much isn't that they're as crazy as he is. (Actully, they're worse; at least HE seemed to get the hint when Skye shot him four times...)

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  100. Alex Forrest20 April 2015 at 22:33

    It's my understanding that Thawne somehow possessed Wells after the car accident in that flashback, but I'm not entirely sure.

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  101. Dean20 April 2015 at 22:34

    If the writers want to do fan service for the vocals shippers would be a shame because it's against evreything they showed us so far as far as Skye character goes. This is my biggest fear on this show going forward. The show runners doing unrealistic stuff to do fan service to Ward fans and skyeward shippers.

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  102. ThulaLani20 April 2015 at 22:34

    I understand those that see Ward for what he is and as you say don't make excuses for him. They enjoy the role he's being given because he's become more interesting than the boring vanilla agent from S1. I respect that. There I villaisn I love myself but I don't woobify or sugar coat their crimes, nor do I find it cute for them to be forced upon their victims. That's messed up. They own their crap. I'm cool because I am that kind of fan myself with other characters. However, the most extreme Ward fans just ruin everything so I can't even be bothered to appreciate his arc because I'm constantly bobarded with some rather disturbing stuff from that sect of fans (not all his fans) and that I can't deal with. The man show ZERO remorse for all the nonsense he's done, doesn't apologise, victim blames and somehow he's still the victim and all these other characters must beg him for forgiveness? No!

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  103. Alex Forrest20 April 2015 at 22:36

    We do know the two SHIELDs join forces from the 2x19 press release, but I'm having a really hard time buying Hunter & Mack hanging out like that after what happened. Something's not right here. While Mack is no Ward, I still think that for the sake of the realism I commended the show for, Hunter shouldn't be giving him the time of day any time soon.

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  104. ThulaLani20 April 2015 at 22:37

    I hear you.

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  105. Dean20 April 2015 at 22:39

    Even if he doesn't have a alternative reason to help her the fact Ward was the one suggesting they get Bakshi and brainwashed him so she could found peace or whatever is already a trouble sign. His idea to find peace is no way healthy. He killed his family and who knows what real Kara would want. That part bothered me. They just left more bodies on the ground to do that.

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  106. ThulaLani20 April 2015 at 22:43

    As I said to Sparky, I haven't really watched since the Christmas episode. My tv got struck by lightning and I lost several episodes that were on the DVR and haven't really been eager to catch up. I'll watch it because I still want to see all the Firestorm episodes, which was what I was looking forward to after the winter break. I just don't know when i'll get around to it.

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  107. ThulaLani20 April 2015 at 22:45

    Everything about Ward and Kara bothers me. I want her free from him. Let her get psychiatric help, something other than being Ward's puppet, boosting his ego now that Garrett's not pulling his strings an his old team hates him.

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  108. sparky4220 April 2015 at 22:50

    One of the things I love is how the shippers gloss over his reacton to her screw up with her ex. He gave her so much Sh*t for a minor screw up, while he's working for Hydra, betraying the team the entire time.

    He's not a good guy (which is fine I don't mind that), I mindthat people keeping trying to spin it that he's just "misunderstood"

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  109. sparky4220 April 2015 at 22:52

    Totally agree, Skye as a character has grown so much from the start, but none of that growth even hints of a character that could just ignore all the pain, death, and betrayal that Ward has racked up.

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  110. Dean20 April 2015 at 22:52

    I agree with everything you said. The problem is not the character. Ward season 2 is way more interesting than Ward season 1 pre hydra. The problem are his annoying fans who keeping coming up with ridiculous excuses for his actions and to make the skyeward ship more plausible to happen. Ward character is a great rougue agent. He had opportunity of redemption early where the writers could have done a realistic redemption ark where he showed remorse and actually help the team but he didn't. He kept doing messed up stuff one after the other. His fans needs to stop faulting other characters and look to Ward for who he really is. I constantly see those fans trash other chracters like if by doing so Ward would look better.

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  111. Alex Forrest20 April 2015 at 22:53

    THIS.


    It's actually the character's fans that drive my negative attitude towards him much more than the character itself. If it was a given that Ward will NEVER be back on that team or back together with Skye, and his role on the show was strictly in the grey zone as someone they might reluctantly work with but will never trust, I might've been able to really enjoy his character. But hearing people scream about redemption and Skyeward all day long has pretty much caused me a gag reflex where this character is concerned. I'd rather see him die, the potential for interesting storylines notwithstanding, than know there's even a small chance that the ridiculousness these shippers want might come to pass (and ruin the show).

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  112. Alex Forrest20 April 2015 at 22:55

    He did the same thing to May, too, when Coulson ICEd her, handcuffed her and put her in the "honeycomb room" on the Bus. Both times, he was pretty damn smug for someone who was committing a 1000000 times worse betrayal.

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  113. sparky4220 April 2015 at 22:56

    Agee with both of you, Ward as a character came alive the minute he killed Hand, as not only does it change how you view his actions before that moment but everything since. He's a good villian/rogue, vastly better than "Agent Ward".

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  114. sparky4220 April 2015 at 23:00

    Good point, give her crap for working on something she'd been assigned directly from the Director, while he's working for Hydra.

    I wonder does that hint of just how disenaged from reality he is, kind of how he played the "I'm not a Nazi I just work for them" in trying to defend himself. Either way, yeah BAD GUY.

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  115. Dean20 April 2015 at 23:06

    Ward had a crap chilhood, his family was awful it's all true but he is far from the only one with bad past. Look at Skye storyline. Talk about painful life full of deception and yet she didn't turn out the way he did. His fans needs to apreciate him for who he really is and stop making excuses of how misunderstood he is. He is not a good man, he said himself and certainly isn't Skye's white knight heroe some people think.

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  116. sparky4220 April 2015 at 23:06

    So true, what she needs really is to be out of the field getting help, not running around killing helping to kill people. Putting herself back together from what's happened is going to be massive.

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  117. Graydon20 April 2015 at 23:12

    She doesn't appear to be. And Ward seems like he wouldn't cross that line if she was.

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  118. sparky4220 April 2015 at 23:12

    Exactly, clearly from the scene with her mom, her years have left her scarred in their own way, but like Coulson told May in the Academy she finds a way to grow from those moments. Ward hasn't, in the episode with her ex, he said "you can't save smeone from themselves." Coulson "You can if you get there earlier enough". If he had the capability/willingness to accept the evil he was aligned with why not speak then.

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  119. Stefanie20 April 2015 at 23:16

    Haha. Coulson. So great!

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  120. Demileto20 April 2015 at 23:20

    I wouldn't worry about that too much, pretty sure the whole point of Skye shooting four rounds into Grant was to get the point across that redemption wouldn't come for him through loving a woman, and with good reason IMO. His betrayal of the team is but the latest of a series of wrong decisions he made in his life, I'm of the opinion that before he could even *hope* to earn forgiveness from Coulson, Skye, May, Fitz and Simmons he has to get it from the first person he wronged in his life, his brother Thomas. The impact his inability to stand up to Christian's manipulations, pushing him into abusing Thomas, is so profound in his life that his greatest atrocity from season 1, damaging Fitz, was deliberately done as a parallel to The Well - replace Christian with Garrett, Thomas with Fitz and the well with the ocean the container was dropped into and you'll see it - so any attempts to make amends with the team will ultimately feel false as long as Thomas is still out there suffering the psychological damage Grant and Christian inflicted upon him.

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  121. Gladiator20 April 2015 at 23:26

    When Ward said 'Hey Baby' I couldn't stop smiling. Definitely shipping.

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  122. sparky4220 April 2015 at 23:39

    A promise she didn't want, and in doing so a) risked the lives of the entire team (her "family"), kidnapped her, nearly got her killed by Whitehall, ended up changing her against her wishes and cost her a friend. Skye doesn't owe Ward JACK, unless it's a demonstration of what he helped wake up in her.

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  123. Karri20 April 2015 at 23:50

    If she isn't brainwashed anymore, then why is she still with Ward?

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  124. Demileto21 April 2015 at 00:18

    Because unlike Coulson, May, Skye, Fitz and Simmons she has no reason to feel repulsed by him? He did help her regain her sense of self-identity after all, however twisted the way may have been.

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  125. Demileto21 April 2015 at 00:29

    IIRC Kara never worked for Coulson's new SHIELD, HYDRA got to her before Coulson could recruit her.

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  126. Karri21 April 2015 at 00:41

    Maybe. Or she doesn't have anyone else to turn to or she thinks she can't go back to SHIELD. Sad, either way.

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  127. sparky4221 April 2015 at 00:58

    Thought she told him she was getting out and then Hydra lifted her?

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  128. sparky4221 April 2015 at 02:30

    On one of the next couple of episodes (most likely not this one) I hope to see a Skye/Bobbi discussion. Given what's gone down on all sides I think that would be a hell of a discussion.

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  129. thi8621 April 2015 at 03:00

    Ward is hated by a large number of the fandom...so i doubt the writers would do that.

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  130. thi8621 April 2015 at 03:03

    "Hey baby", "hey sweetie" lol sarcastic Coulson is the best Coulson.

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  131. ivan21 April 2015 at 05:34

    GRANT WARD IS BACK TO KICK SOME ASS WITH SHIELD WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  132. swanpride21 April 2015 at 06:03

    Saturday in my case...but I can wait the extra days in exchange for the best seat in the theatre.

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  133. swanpride21 April 2015 at 15:49

    I dropped Arrow at the start of this season and yeah, the CWness was the reason I didn't bother with Flash for too long. I just knew it would eventually end up like Arrow.
    AoS is just getting better and better. I am so glad that I gave it a second shot.

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  134. Alex Forrest21 April 2015 at 19:03

    Not directly related to what you said, but I wish the misunderstanding of Skye thinking SHIELD hunted her down will be cleared up soon. It has to be pretty hearbreaking to even suspect that her friends and colleagues (except for May, the one who warned her) went after and even tried to kill her - and she has to believe that currently, as she has no idea about Olmost SHIELD and Bobbi was there.

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  135. Alex Forrest21 April 2015 at 19:06

    So your TV has something in common with Barry now. :D LOL.

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  136. sparky4221 April 2015 at 19:14

    Agree completely with you, we can only imagine what's going through her head.

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  137. Alex Forrest21 April 2015 at 19:16

    If someone wants a good example for why Ward SHOULDN'T be forgiven for everything just because of his horrible past, take a look at Guardians of the Galaxy. Two sisters, Gamora and Nebula, grew up in the exact same hell. Their "adoptive father" Thanos tortured, abused and manipulated them - molded them into his pet assassins. And yet, did they end up making the same choices? Not at all. Gamora put everything on the line to betray Thanos (a.k.a. the single most powerful and dangerous entity in the universe) and help save Xandar, while Nebula remained evil and helped to try to destroy it. So no matter how you roll the die, there's always a choice. Is it a much more difficult choice for someone who went through the kind of crap that Ward, Gamora and Nebula did? Absolutely. But it's still there - as long as you aren't literally under mind control like Kara or Bucky Barnes, you are responsible for your actions... and Ward needs to take responsibility.

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  138. ThulaLani21 April 2015 at 19:26

    LOL, not quite. Barry was only struck by lightning once my tv/dvr was struck twice.

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  139. Alex Forrest21 April 2015 at 19:54

    Wow! In that case, they ought to start working really REALLY fast.

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  140. Folie-lex21 April 2015 at 20:33

    That was fun!

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  141. sparky4221 April 2015 at 23:47

    Logic hurts. :)
    But yeah that's actually a great angle to look at it from, he had options, he had moments when he could have said "wait". Hell even Raina thought Coulson was a good man even though she was always on the other side.

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