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Ratings News - 4th November 2014

4 Nov 2014

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Today's Early Overnight Ratings

This table shows the early overnight ratings. These ratings are normally adjusted later in the day when all the ratings have been consolidated to take into account any local preemptions and/or overruns. You can find all the final adjusted numbers in our Ratings Database. (See the About section below for details about ratings)

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Early Ratings Analysis

The analysis below is based on the early household numbers and are NOT the same as the numbers that will be posted in the above table later. (See the About section below)

For more information on the Nielsen Ratings see this Wikipedia Entry.

NOTE: The opinions expressed here are NOT those of SpoilerTV but of the Author of this Article, Marc Berman.

Metered Market Monday Ratings
ABC Wins; NBC Poised for More Young Adult Demo Victory

Monday 11/03/14

Household
Rating/Share
ABC 7.6/12
NBC 7.5/11
CBS 6.0/ 9
Fox 4.0/ 6
CW 1.0/ 1

-Percent Change from Year-Ago Evening – Monday 11/04/13:
CBS and CW: +25 each, NBC: + 3, ABC and Fox: -13 each
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Note: The following labels are based on the household overnights and are subject to change given the availability of other pending data streams. These overnights are your first look at the ratings and a precursor to what could lie ahead. And we take into account other benchmarks including the expected demographic ratings, potential DVR usage, the critical acclaim (or lack of) and the social media presence.

-Winners:
“Dancing With the Stars” (ABC), “The Voice” (NBC), “Scorpion” (CBS), “NCIS: Los Angeles” (CBS) “The Blacklist” (NBC)

-Honorable Mention:
“Gotham” (Fox)

-Improved:
“Countdown to the CMA Awards: 15 Songs That Changed Country Music With Robin Roberts” (ABC)

-Worthy of a Larger Audience:
“Jane the Virgin” (CW)

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Ratings Breakdown:
ABC inched past NBC for overnight dominance, with a 0.1 household rating point advantage. But the home of “The Voice” and “The Blacklist” remains the network to beat in adults 18-49 (and all the key young adult demos). And CBS and The CW are the most improved (despite only a 1.0 rating/1 share in the household overnights, on average, for The CW).

ABC’s veteran “Dancing with the Stars” led the 8-10 p.m. bock, with a 9.0 rating/13 share in households (and erosion of just seven percent from the 9.7/15 on the year-ago evening). And it led into 10 p.m. special, “Countdown to the CMA Awards: 15 Songs That Changed Country Music With Robin Roberts” at a third-place 4.8/ 8 at 10 p.m., which was 19 percent below the 5.9/10 for regularly scheduled “Castle” one week earlier. Compared to last fall, however, that 4.8 in the overnights was a hefty 92 percent above the 2.5/ 4 for “In the Spotlight with Robin Roberts: Countdown to the CMA Awards” on Tuesday 11/05/13 (at 10 p.m. ET).

On NBC, two-hours of demo-dominant “The Voice” scored a healthy 8.1/12 from 8-10 p.m. (#2), which was seven percent above the 7.6/11 on the year-ago evening. And it led into “The Blacklist” at a 6.3/11 at 10 p.m., which will win the hour in the key demos but trailed competing “NCIS: Los Angeles” on CBS (#1: 6.4/11) by one-tenth of a rating point. Worth positively noting for “NCIS: Los Angeles” was overnight growth of 94 percent from failed year-ago time period occupant “Hostages” (3.3/ 6 on 11/04/13).

Earlier in the evening on CBS were sitcoms “2 Broke Girls” (#3: 5.2/ 8 at 8 p.m.) and relocated “The Millers” (#3: 4.4/ 6 at 9:30 p.m.), which declined from year-ago time period occupants “How I Met Your Mother” (5.6/ 8 on 11/04/13) and “2 Broke Girls” (5.4/ 8) by 7 percent and 19 percent, respectively. While 85 percent overnight retention for “The Millers” out of “2 Broke Girls” was better than the 79 percent last week, the question on everyone’s minds has to be why Sean Hayes is suddenly on this sitcom.

Also on CBS: Episode seven of full season-renewed drama “Scorpion” did drop to a series-low 6.7/10 in the overnights from 9-10 p.m. But that 6.7 was still 52 percent above lead-in “The Millers” and 22 percent above year-ago time period occupants “Mike & Molly” (6.1/ 9 on 11/04/13 – season premiere) and “Mom” (5.0/ 8). CBS took a gamble by breaking up the perennial two-hour Monday sitcom block and it has paid off.

Elsewhere, Fox increased by eight percent from one week earlier with its demo friendly combination of dramas “Gotham” (#4: 4.8/ 7), which also earned its full season-renewal stripes, and “Sleepy Hollow” (#4: 3.1/ 5). And The CW was flat from one week earlier (but up 25 percent form the year-ago evening) with its pairing of sophomore “The Originals” (#5: 1.0/ 2) and creative hit “Jane the Virgin” (#5: 0.9/ 1), which has also received a full season pick-up. While a 0.9 in the overnights last week only translated into a 0.4/ 1 among adults 18-49 for “Jane the Virgin” out of a 0.6/ 2 in the demo for “The Originals,” it was still 29 percent above year-ago occupant “Beauty and the Beast” in the overnights (0.7/ 1 on 11/04/13). Note to the Emmy voters: don’t forget to include Gina Rodriguez on the ballot.

Source: Nielsen Media Research data


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178 comments:

  1. Looks like CBS took a slight hit
    NCIS LA looks to be more stable


    TBL looks slightly down
    Gotham seems to level off

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  2. NCIS LA seems to have increase without Castle. That might be a season high HH ratings. Too bad Scorpion dropped. The Blacklist seems stable I think.

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  3. i think its slightly down by like a tenth

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  4. Go Blacklist and Gotham.

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  5. Gotham and Sleepy Hollow!!! Not worried about The Blacklist one but as a 3rd season is all but certain at this point.



    I know they aren't out yet, but can we all take a moment to thank Ed for getting the Top 25 Market Demo Ratings since premiere week?

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  6. You can't be too sure. If it tanks on Thursdays (very unlikey), then it could get cancelled.

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  7. Considering it's unlikely for it to tank to the point where it would drop below NBC's scripted average, I think The Blacklist is safe for a renewal.

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  8. I know it could go either way, but even if it falls below 2.0 demo ratings it'll still probably be NBC's highest rated drama.

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  9. So Gotham went up and The Originals is flat. Good enough for me.

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  10. Almost everything looks up, very good night for broadcast tv (we still have to wait for the demo though).
    2 Broke Girls is holding up the comedy block way better than I expected

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  11. after seeing marc comments abt jane . its official jane has become the critics sweet child.

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  12. Any networks inflated due to MNF Indy/NY? Not surprised LA is stronger without Castle (and vice versa). Will be interesting to see what happens when SoAs enters the timeslot. We have three similar themed shows (Scandal, SOA, & MS) - while content of latter two is closer - that's a lot of politically driven programs.

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  13. CW i think was preempted in New York.

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  14. YEP for the giants game

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  15. 'Worthy of a Larger Audience' = Loser, just sugar coated.

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  16. Patrick Ausgewahlt4 November 2014 at 15:22

    I think The Blacklist was guaranteed 4 seasons the moment Netflix paid 44 million for the streaming of season 1. No way that thing wasn't getting renewed at thay point.

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  17. I was about to say the same thing, lol

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  18. Patrick Ausgewahlt4 November 2014 at 15:25

    Last week the Blacklist had a 6.4. HH rating in the overnights. It has a 6.3 this week. Pretty stable

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  19. But it's true - it is absolutely worthy. Shame about the ratings though.

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  20. But if it was a show that critics didn't like that get the same ratings (or the effective same ratings for the network the show is on), he'd call it a loser.

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  21. Same can be said for many other shows that Berman calls "Loser"

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  22. Not that I really trust Berman's very opinionated Winners/Losers categorisations, but NCIS LA being a winner is something I like seeing. Hopefully it can sustain itself in the demo.

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  23. It remarkably has a 100% approval ratings on Rotten Tomaotoes (last time I checked)

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  24. Yeah sorry don't get it. What is this? Other shows are losers and this is worthy of a larger audience and emmy worthy? Subjective much?

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  25. http://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/jane-the-virgin/s01/ Yep

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  26. Ditto . and come on emmy worthy? Really? BTW like the show it is sweet but come on lol

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  27. Yup. IIRC , CW show Reaper was a critics darling, too, and where is it now? *crickets*

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  28. What? Obviously the JtV ratings aren't good, so instead of calling it a loser, as he usually would, he says 'Worthy of a Larger Audience'. Why should this one show get categorised differently?

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  29. I think she was agreeing with you.

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  30. Yep, we have all established that he's very biased, especially for CBS shows. For example, I like Mom too but he couldn't stop singing praises about it last year.

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  31. Yes, I think I realised that after I replied. Misread the tone of the comment, lol.

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  32. Yeah I'm curious how Scorpion can be a winner when it apparently hit season lows.

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  33. Series low doesn't necessarily = bad ratings.

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  34. I think that has to do with building substantially from the lead-in.

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  35. Yeah, it's critically overrated, it has a decent cast and that's all it has.

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  36. I agree I enjoy watching but nothing novel.

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  37. r u freakin kidding me .is it for real?

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  38. amen.
    double standard

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  39. http://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/jane-the-virgin/s01/

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  40. emmy worthy?? lol.
    i m laughing like a crazy person here

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  41. Also, Scorpion/LA are significantly higher than what was previously there, so while CBS has taken losses with several moves (Stalker/CSI, TAR/UB, MS/TAR,), this is one where they are better off - that qualifies as a 'winner.'

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  42. IMO, it´s not NCIS:LA being more stable, it´s the result of no Castle airing yesterday - probably NCIS:LA´s audience has more of a cross with Castle´s than with The Blacklist (at least that´s how I read it, since T.B. was more or less even with last week).

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  43. wanna say (gotham) this ep was the best till date

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  44. Yeah, of course. I agree that Marc is biased. He cannot stop himself from commenting on the shows he likes or dislikes.


    But this time I agree with his assessment, so whatever.

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  45. Per Showbuzz Daily


    DWTS-2.1
    The Voice-3.4
    The Blacklist-2.4
    Gotham-2.4
    SH-1.5
    2BG-2.2
    The Millers-1.6
    Scorpion-2.2
    NCIS LA-1.5

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  46. just cancel TM already

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  47. Gotham: 2.4
    TBL. 2.4

    Scorpion: 2.2
    NCIS: LA: 1.5.
    SH: 1.5

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  48. The Originals 0.6, Jane 0.6 but CW was preempted in NY.

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  49. Perhaps Showbuzz daily doesn't like me, but it doesn't show me the scorecard!

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  50. Sleepy Hollow :(

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  51. 2.4 is really good for Gotham and it looks the Blacklist is stable at a 2.4. I'm sure it'll go up next week for the mid-season finale.

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  52. ABC fast national ratings inflated somewhat by local pre-emption in Indianapolis for Monday Night Football (carried nationally on ESPN). CW ratings inflated somewhat by MNF pre-emption in New York.

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  53. Revenge and OUAT4 November 2014 at 16:13

    Me neither

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  54. Series low for NCIS LA.

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  55. Surprisingly, Blacklist fell without Castle

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  56. 18-34 ratings per showbuzzdaily:
    CBS
    2BG: 1.4
    The Millers: 1.1
    Scorpion: 1.4
    NCSI:LA: 0.8


    FOX
    Gotham: 1.8
    Sleepy Hollow: 0.9


    ABC:
    DWTS: 1.4
    CMA Awards: 0.9


    NBC:
    The Voice: 2.4
    The Blacklist: 1.5


    CW:
    The Originals: 0.5
    Jane The Virgin: 0.5

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  57. The Blacklist Half-hours are 2.6/2.2 not to great

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  58. JANE THE VIRGIN notched 1.4M viewers Monday, building on its THE ORIGINALS lead-in (1.3M) in prelims. Held 100% of A18-34/49 lead-in (.3/.4) is this then just a type the demos?

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  59. Wow, a lot of people tuned out during.

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  60. Here are the 1/2 hr breakdowns

    8:00 p.m.

    ABC – Dancing with the Stars
    Viewers: 12.54 million (#1), A18-49: 1.9/ 6 (#4)

    CBS – 2 Broke Girls
    Viewers: 7.96 million (#3), A18-49: 2.2/ 7 (#3)

    NBC – The Voice
    Viewers: 11.72 million (#2), A18-49: 3.1/ 9 (#1)

    Fox – Gotham
    Viewers: 6.56 million (#4), A18-49: 2.4/ 7 (#2)

    CW – The Originals
    Viewers: 1.33 million (#5), A18-49: 0.6/ 2 (#5)

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    8:30 p.m.

    ABC – Dancing with the Stars
    Viewers: 13.28 million (#1), A18-49: 2.1/ 6 (#3)

    CBS – The Millers
    Viewers: 6.78 million (#3), A18-49: 1.6/ 5 (#4)

    NBC – The Voice
    Viewers: 12.24 million (#2), A18-49: 3.5/10 (#1)

    Fox – Gotham
    Viewers: 6.54 million (#4), A18-49: 2.4/ 7 (#2)

    CW – The Originals
    Viewers: 1.27 million (#5), A18-49: 0.6/ 2 (#5)

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    9:00 p.m.

    ABC – Dancing with the Stars
    Viewers: 13.49 million (#1), A18-49: 2.1/ 6 (#3)

    CBS – Scorpion
    Viewers: 10.56 million (#3), A18-49: 2.3/ 6 (#2)

    NBC – The Voice
    Viewers: 11.65 million (#2), A18-49: 3.5/ 9 (#1)

    Fox – Sleepy Hollow
    Viewers: 4.71 million (#4), A18-49: 1.6/ 4 (#4)

    CW – Jane the Virgin
    Viewers: 1.36 million (#5), A18-49: 0.6/ 2 (#5)

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    9:30 p.m.

    ABC – Dancing with the Stars
    Viewers: 13.66 million (#1), A18-49: 2.1/ 6 (#2t)

    CBS – Scorpion
    Viewers: 10.04 million (#3), A18-49: 2.1/ 6 (#2t)

    NBC – The Voice
    Viewers: 11.79 million (#2), A18-49: 3.6/10 (#1)

    Fox – Sleepy Hollow
    Viewers: 4.27 million (#4), A18-49: 1.5/ 4 (#4)

    CW – Jane the Virgin
    Viewers: 1.47 million (#5), A18-49: 0.6/ 2 (#5)

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    10:00 p.m.

    ABC – Countdown to the CMA Awards: 15 Songs That Changed Country Music With Robin Roberts
    Viewers: 8.30 million (#3), A18-49: 1.4/ 4 (#3)

    CBS – NCIS: Los Angeles
    Viewers: 9.29 million (#2), A18-49: 1.6/ 5 (#2)

    NBC – The Blacklist
    Viewers: 9.72 million (#1), A18-49: 2.6/ 8 (#1)

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    10:30 p.m.

    ABC – Countdown to the CMA Awards: 15 Songs That Changed Country Music With Robin Roberts
    Viewers: 7.02 million (#3), A18-49: 1.2/ 4 (#3)

    CBS – NCIS: Los Angeles
    Viewers: 8.97 million (#1), A18-49: 1.4/ 5 (#2)

    NBC – The Blacklist
    Viewers: 8.73 million (#2), A18-49: 2.2/ 7 (#1)

    Source: Nielsen Media Research

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  61. NBC has to be considering moving the show.

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  62. It already is moving.

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  63. Check the edited post.

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  64. Even though SH is still safe, I think it will be moved to other night. Maybe a new midseason show after Gotham.

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  65. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B1nC6G-IYAIPNZd.png

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  66. They only have Empire, Wayward Pines and Backstrom and none of these are that compatible with Gotham

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  67. Ah, lol. We'll see how it goes on Thursdays, I guess. It's still doing great, even if it is lower than it's expected to be.

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  68. That's pretty damn awful for The Millers.

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  69. Click the "recent" link.

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  70. Is that .6 right for JTV? Berman's post seemed to indicate it did the same as last week. This shows it did better than TO. Not that I'm complaining!

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  71. I was kinda happy seeing JtV matching TO,then i remembered it was pre-empted!

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  72. The Following will probably premiere out of Gotham. Not exactly compatible, but close enough

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  73. I can't wait to see what ratings it's hitting by season's end.

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  74. Pre-empted in NY.

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  75. Maybe Wayward Pines. Dark, gritty tone and male-centric.

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  76. Glad Gotham is up 0.2 from last week. Shame about Sleepy Hollow being down.

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  77. Hard to believe something as entertaining as Gotham is on the same network as crap like The Following.

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  78. Scandal skews even younger than The Voice? Wow.

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  79. Gotham finally stopped falling and went up!

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  80. I thought it would increase - the half hours are worrisome

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  81. both shows were preempted in New York. They will air on Saturday in that market. The HH ratings equaled last week. But that doesnt say much when it is the CW. Arrow once got a 0.8 with a 1.9 HH , and another time a 1.0 with the same HH rating.

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  82. TB always drops badly in the 2nd hour.I wonder why?

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  83. pretty sure JTV gonna fall

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  84. For such an old skewing show dwts did decent in 18-43

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  85. To some extent it is inflated by the voice

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  86. It's retention out of the voice used to be better than this

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  87. Revenge and OUAT4 November 2014 at 16:24

    Yaaay gotham and Ouch sleepy hollow

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  88. CBS can't be happy that TM is forcing channel changes to ABC/NBC (see corresponding increases after 2BG, which is doing surprisingly well). M&M certainly would hold 2BG far better than this, er, show.

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  89. Why was it listed as winner then?

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  90. Yeah.CW was Preempted somewhere

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  91. The difference is, it used to do a better job of holding TV's audience in its first half-hour.

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  92. Makes sense.Thanks.

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  93. The Originals is really stable this season. It keeps getting 1.27 - 1.36 mil. in viewers. And 0.6 and 0.7 in demo.

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  94. So happy for Gotham and specially for Jane, The Virgin!!! I hope it doesn't adjust down!!!

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  95. true but I think its "real" audience is mid 2s

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  96. I likely will since CW was pre-mpted in NY

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  97. It lost 0.7 (equivalent of 32% )of its lead-in and with no Castle up against it. I genuinely don't know.

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  98. Pre-empted,it will go down after final adjustments most likely.

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  99. I agree. I think the people who watched because it followed the voice have bailed.

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  100. Really????Oh no!!! If it stays around 0.5 it's good for me!!!

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  101. I think this week JtV and Reign will match for 0.5 & The 100 will be up at 0.6.

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  102. Isn't Backstrom a cop show, just like Gotham?

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  103. This marc guy is so biased,it's irritating man!

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  104. I hope so!!! I'm really enjoying the show so far!!!

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  105. Crime comedy-drama.

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  106. To this day DWTS still does a solid job for ABC

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  107. Probably due to this line

    was overnight growth of 94 percent from failed year-ago time period occupant “Hostages”

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  108. RIP The Blacklist. Gonna take a big hit in the spring

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  109. Ya,the show is very fresh and enjoyable-just what i expected from this show!

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  110. He labels winners and losers due to their HH ratings and total viewers, not the demo

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  111. its far from dead, won't pull the same number but will be NBC highest rated drama

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  112. Ah, didn't read that. TBH though I think CBS could air a special video edition of the SpoilerTV Podcast and it would get better ratings than Hostages did.

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  113. Same tone with Bones.

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  114. It improved the slot from last year, I guess.

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  115. It's still doing well and has a big money deal with Netflix. It's staying.

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  116. Sorry to say,although it's down quite a bit,it's not going anywhere this year!

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  117. I'm surprised at the Blacklist's ratings, tbh.

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  118. With Gotham it seems word is spreading that the show is starting to get really good as its found its footing. Now if only every episode could be like last night's rather than the usual freak of the week stuff.

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  119. making 2 million per episodes thanks to the netflix deal + its good ratings means this show isn't going anywhere. It's going to be on the air for quite some time

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  120. Oh... I see. I really think they should premiere a new show out of Gotham. The Following is not gonna attract any new audience.

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  121. def guaranteed 4 seasons

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  122. I think its hitting a sophomore slump

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  123. Would hardly call mid 2s "sophomore slump". Now Sleepy Hollow, that's a sophomore slump.

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  124. compare to last fall it was doing 3s, I mean its half hour ended at a 2,2

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  125. Last season We Are Men was pulled at 1.8. The Millers deserves the same fate. An both shows are equally awful.

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  126. Perhaps. I think it would be really interesting to see what it would do now without the Voice lead-in. If it would drop or if it would keep those numbers.

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  127. Last year, TBL hit a 2.9.

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  128. 6.4/11 = 1.5 for NCIS LA
    3.3/ 6 = 1.1 for Hostages last year.



    Strange how little the demos differentiate from such large HH deviation.

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  129. that was its lowest fall, for majority of the fall last year it was constantly hitting 3s

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  130. Last nights was the best episode to date for the show. I think some "freaks" have been better than others, wasn't a huge fan of the spirit of the goat. It does get really good DVR numbers as well.

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  131. That is correct. TBL has experienced a 14% drop over the course of this season.

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  132. probably will be higher because it'll be after big ban theory by then

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  133. True, I just mean I would prefer to see more big picture based episodes like last night's and less police procedural stuff.

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  134. Hit a 2.3 on 20th Jan. That's its series low to date.

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  135. And a pick up by CBS if NBC decides to cancel. LOL. This is the most "CBS-like" show, but on NBC. TBL will run for several more years. I'm still holding out hope that NBC will change its mind about Thursday move. I know they are hoping for GA's like SB boost followed by Thursday launch, but it's very different. Darker shows (see CBS huge misfire with CM after SB) do not do well. Plus, unlike GA, which was considered a timeslot hit after DH, TBL started with a huge ratings bang and now is sliding a bit.

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  136. Lots of people over 50 watch it; in fact, there is more people over 50 watching TV than people on the demo; the only thing that truly skews young anf catched a lot of eyeball below 50 is The Walking Dead. And GoT to an extent, but it's not as massive as TWD in terms of viewership

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  137. To be fair, that was sans The Voice

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  138. that was without the voice

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  139. I would as well.

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  140. There's a possibility that TBL will adjust down to tie that low tonight.

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  141. Millers is CBS owned,it's not going anywhere.And perception of quality or lack thereof, has no bearing on renewal or cancellations

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  142. Aired out of TBBT for its season premiere and lost more than half of TBBT's demo (4.6 to a 2.1).

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  143. Anyway, funnily enough, last year's TBL ratings are more or less the ratings Scandal is having this season.

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  144. I think The Blacklist will at last perform better than, say, Elementary two years ago on CBS. It still could be a huge win for NBC if it pays off

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  145. true, it still amazes me that GA one of the most female skewing show is one of the highest dramas to air out of SB

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  146. Ah, had forgotten about that.

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  147. And they're going to wait till the very last episode to reveal how exactly Agent Keen is related to Red... probably.

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  148. I think that will be solve this season

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  149. Yeah, I know. And I was just saying that both shows are awful, never said they were/should cancelled because of it.

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  150. Yeah, me too!!! When I watch it, I don't expect great things, I just relax and have fun.

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  151. I think it is unavoidable. It is still pretty much the same show, good production values, great acting by James Spader. Nothing has really made it much better or much worse. Personally, I gave it up, not because I hate it, it's just that I get bored easily. I am okay with sticking with shows like The Blacklist or Sleepy Hollow for one season, but I normally don't stick with shows past their first season, because I'm just not the type of person to watch a second season of "just about the same". I suspect that is what happens to most shows, which is why most shows decline season to season. It's hard to stick with a show for more than a year, when new shows keep popping out left and right.

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  152. To any of you ratings expert, does it look like Originals will even see a season 3 at this rate?

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  153. Yes, it will likely hold off Monday until at least season 4

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  154. I DVR it and skip through everything that does not involve James Spader.

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  155. Good for Gotham, after last nights excellent episode hopefully the ratings will be even better next week from word of mouth.

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  156. Fionn (was Teen Wolfers)4 November 2014 at 17:12

    Scorpion needs to stop going down now:/

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  157. Revenge and OUAT4 November 2014 at 17:16

    Revenge and OUAT both nominated for people's choice awards!!!!

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  158. 100%. I would be shocked if it was in any danger of getting cancelled.

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  159. Its on NBC, it can probably drop all the way down to around a 1.6 and still be renewed.

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  160. It was novel (for English-speaking audiences) when it was called Ugly Betty.

    That said, I do enjoy it a great deal.

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  161. Wednesdays at 9 after they can Red Band Society?

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  162. I can't tell what these numbers mean. Can someone explain how Sleepy a hollow is doing. Bad/Average/good/great...Thank You

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  163. I'm kind of curious about how bad the Millers is. I haven't heard one good thing about it. I may even watch a few scenes on Hulu to see if it's really as bad as everyone says

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  164. That really puzzles me as well. In fact they both went down from last week. Really strange.

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  165. went down to 0.5 only

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