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Monday 2/10/14 Metered Markets
The Winter Olympics Rule on NBC
Household
Rating/Share
NBC 13.7/21
ABC 4.5/ 7
CBS 4.2/ 6
Fox 3.9/ 6
CW 0.8/ 1
Note: The year-to-year comparisons bill be excluded during the XXII Winter Olympics
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-Winners:
XXII Winter Olympics (NBC)
-Honorable Mention:
“The Bachelor” (ABC), “Intelligence” (CBS)
-Losers (excluding repeats):
“Hart of Dixie” (CW), “Beauty and the Beast” (CW)
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-Ratings Breakdown:
Ongoing XXII Winter Olympics ruled on NBC with a 13.7 rating/21 share in the overnights in primetime, which outdelivered the four competing networks combined. The peak half-hour was a 14.9/22 at 9 p.m. and the events featured last night were alpine skiing, short track, freestyle skiing and speed skating.
Despite facing The Winter Olympics, perennial “The Bachelor” on ABC was on the map with a 5.5/ 8 from 8-10 p.m., which was only seven percent below the 5.9/ 9 one week earlier. Capping off the evening for ABC was a repeat of “Jimmy Kimmel Live: Matt Damon Returns” at a third-place 2.4/ 4 at 10 p.m.
CBS filled the 8-10 p.m. block with encores of soon-to-conclude “How I Met Your Mother” (#4: 3.7/ 6), an 8:30 p.m. edition of “Mom” (#4: 3.5/ 6), “Mike & Molly” (#3: 4.0/ 6) and the regularly scheduled edition of “Mom” (#3: 3.8/ 5), which is worthy of Emmy consideration for Anna Faris and Allison Janney. Worthy of positive mention, meanwhile, is recent Monday 10 p.m. drama entry “Intelligence,” which rose to second with a 4.9/ 8 and remains a vast improvement over recent occupant “Hostages.” Comparably, “Intelligence” built from the 9:30 p.m. encore of “Mom” by 29 percent in the overnights.
Elsewhere, Fox’s drama combination of “Almost Human” (#3: 4.1/ 6) and sophomore “The Following” (#4: 3.6/ 5) slipped, on average, by 15 percent week to week. And The CW remained out of the competitive loop with its anemic pairing of “Hart of Dixie” (#5: 1.0/ 1) and “Beauty and the Beast” (#5: 0.7/ 1), which both need to end this season.
Source: Nielsen Media Research data
The Winter Olympics Rule on NBC
Household
Rating/Share
NBC 13.7/21
ABC 4.5/ 7
CBS 4.2/ 6
Fox 3.9/ 6
CW 0.8/ 1
Note: The year-to-year comparisons bill be excluded during the XXII Winter Olympics
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-Winners:
XXII Winter Olympics (NBC)
-Honorable Mention:
“The Bachelor” (ABC), “Intelligence” (CBS)
-Losers (excluding repeats):
“Hart of Dixie” (CW), “Beauty and the Beast” (CW)
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-Ratings Breakdown:
Ongoing XXII Winter Olympics ruled on NBC with a 13.7 rating/21 share in the overnights in primetime, which outdelivered the four competing networks combined. The peak half-hour was a 14.9/22 at 9 p.m. and the events featured last night were alpine skiing, short track, freestyle skiing and speed skating.
Despite facing The Winter Olympics, perennial “The Bachelor” on ABC was on the map with a 5.5/ 8 from 8-10 p.m., which was only seven percent below the 5.9/ 9 one week earlier. Capping off the evening for ABC was a repeat of “Jimmy Kimmel Live: Matt Damon Returns” at a third-place 2.4/ 4 at 10 p.m.
CBS filled the 8-10 p.m. block with encores of soon-to-conclude “How I Met Your Mother” (#4: 3.7/ 6), an 8:30 p.m. edition of “Mom” (#4: 3.5/ 6), “Mike & Molly” (#3: 4.0/ 6) and the regularly scheduled edition of “Mom” (#3: 3.8/ 5), which is worthy of Emmy consideration for Anna Faris and Allison Janney. Worthy of positive mention, meanwhile, is recent Monday 10 p.m. drama entry “Intelligence,” which rose to second with a 4.9/ 8 and remains a vast improvement over recent occupant “Hostages.” Comparably, “Intelligence” built from the 9:30 p.m. encore of “Mom” by 29 percent in the overnights.
Elsewhere, Fox’s drama combination of “Almost Human” (#3: 4.1/ 6) and sophomore “The Following” (#4: 3.6/ 5) slipped, on average, by 15 percent week to week. And The CW remained out of the competitive loop with its anemic pairing of “Hart of Dixie” (#5: 1.0/ 1) and “Beauty and the Beast” (#5: 0.7/ 1), which both need to end this season.
Source: Nielsen Media Research data
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I really hate how whoever writes these articles is SO MEAN towards beauty and the beast and hart of dixie... like what did the shows ever do to you? seriously WHY ARE YOU SO MEAN TOWARDS THEM? no other ratings websites is rude like that just stop saying "they need to end" or whatever it's really biased of you.
ReplyDeleteI don't think he's judging the value of the content, just the ratings, With those ratings, the CW has to see that there are probably better options out there.
ReplyDeleteWooHoo for Intelligence!! While nothing was going to win against the Olympics, I am glad to see that Intelligence didn't completely collapse either, with it only dropping to 4.9/8 this week from 5.1/8 last week. Also, add in the fact that it actually brought viewers into the network to specifically see it, given that it's lead in was repeat, I call it a decent night. Of course, we will know more once the demo numbers come out later today.
ReplyDeleteHe might be right from a ratings standpoint,but I agree with OP that's he's unprofessional .Plus,HoD is Likley to be renewed for syndication anyway.
ReplyDeleteIt is still rude how he is always writing it.no other page does it this rude. There are people who love the show and you can "see" how happy he is that ratings are bad. Not a neutral option.
ReplyDeleteum he's only telling the truth based on ratings, off course HOD is likely to be renewed for syndication but if it wasnt just another season away it probably would be on cancellation list alongside Beauty.
ReplyDeletenote that he says NEED to end not WILL end, he's only looking at the ratings and not other factors which might determine a shows renewal chances.
ReplyDeleteSorry,but you have no right to say 'he is happy that the ratings are bad.' Your just adding fuel to the fire saying something like that.You might not like what he has to say but you cannot go around claiming he is saying something he hasn't said.
ReplyDeleteJust read the ratings and ignore what he said if it upsets you so much...or grow thicker skin.
But you still can see how he tends to praise Cbs shows and then he does the opposite with Cw shows. I know Hart of Dixie and Beauty and The Beast are doing terrible (ratings), but he still finds it hard to include on the list of winners shows like The Originals, Supernatural, Arrow and The Vampire Diaries (which are doing good on The Cw and can be considered winners, but no, the maximum he can do is include them on the honorable mention list). For example, he really dislikes Supernatural and proved it in the past.
ReplyDeleteEvery week he has Hart of Dixie, Beauty and The Beast and The Tomorrow People on his Losers list and often ignores the good results obtained by other Cw shows.
Their ratings ARE terrible, so they do need to end. Though HoD will be renewed for syndication purposes.
ReplyDeleteSorry, but his statement wasn't rude. They do need to end based on a pure ratings stance, which his is. And unless your psychic, you can't see if hes happy or not. For all we know, he may in fact be a fan of both shows. His articles are always written to analyze shows based on numbers alone. No need to fuel the fire, it just makes a fandom look bad.
ReplyDeleteNow you want him to compare BATB vs SPN to determine if SPN is a winner or loser? I might be misunderstanding that last part.
ReplyDeleteThe article wasn't written by anybody on this site. They added the article for information purposes. And since the article was written as stated above by Marc Berman and is published on his forum, his statements don't really represent the opinion of anybody on this site. Why would anybody put much weight on his words anyway.
ReplyDeleteWhat? I think he should be more objective. His posts aren't. If Mom was doing terrible he would have found a way to justify it, and why? 'cause he loves the show and he thinks the leads deserve Emmys.
ReplyDeleteSupernatural every week is a winner on its network, like The Originals, The Vampire Diaries and Arrow, but he doesn't want to recognize that.
It's weird that people who accused him of not being objective about the difference of the results of The Tomorrow People and Reign are now defending him. Well done.
Here are the 1/2 hr breakdowns
ReplyDelete8:00 p.m.
ABC – The Bachelor
Viewers: 8.00 million (#2), A18-49: 2.3/ 6 (#2)
CBS – 2 Broke Girls (R)
Viewers: 5.43 million (#3), A18-49: 1.3/ 4 (#4)
NBC – XXII Olympics (Alpine Skiing, Short Track, Freestyle Skiing and Speed Skating)
Viewers: 20.06 million (#1), A18-49: 5.3/15 (#1)
Fox – Almost Human
Viewers: 5.42 million (#4), A18-49: 1.5/ 4 (#3)
CW – Hart of Dixie
Viewers: 1.11 million (#5), A18-49: 0.3/ 1 (#5)
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8:30 p.m.
ABC – The Bachelor
Viewers: 7.65 million (#2), A18-49: 2.3/ 6 (#2)
CBS – Mom (R)
Viewers: 5.11 million (#4), A18-49: 1.2/ 3 (#4)
NBC – XXII Olympics (Alpine Skiing, Short Track, Freestyle Skiing and Speed Skating)
Viewers: 23.61 million (#1), A18-49: 6.6/17 (#1)
Fox – Almost Human
Viewers: 5.32 million (#3), A18-49: 1.5/ 4 (#3)
CW – Hart of Dixie
Viewers: 943,000 (#5), A18-49: 0.3/ 1 (#5)
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9:00 p.m.
ABC – The Bachelor
Viewers: 7.70 million (#2), A18-49: 2.3/ 6 (#2)
CBS – Mike & Molly (R)
Viewers: 5.94 million (#3), A18-49: 1.4/ 4 (#4)
NBC – XXII Olympics (Alpine Skiing, Short Track, Freestyle Skiing and Speed Skating)
Viewers: 24.49 million (#1), A18-49: 7.1/18 (#1)
Fox – The Following
Viewers: 4.85 million (#4), A18-49: 1.7/ 4 (#3)
CW – Beauty and the Beast
Viewers: 820,000 (#5), A18-49: 0.3/ 1 (#5)
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9:30 p.m.
ABC – The Bachelor
Viewers: 7.77 million (#2), A18-49: 2.4/ 6 (#2)
CBS – Mom (R)
Viewers: 5.61 million (#3), A18-49: 1.4/ 3 (#4)
NBC – XXII Olympics (Alpine Skiing, Short Track, Freestyle Skiing and Speed Skating)
Viewers: 23.23 million (#1), A18-49: 6.8/17 (#1)
Fox – The Following
Viewers: 4.59 million (#4), A18-49: 1.7/ 4 (#3)
CW – Beauty and the Beast
Viewers: 723,000 (#5), A18-49: 0.3/ 1 (#5)
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10:00 p.m.
ABC – Jimmy Kimmel Live: Matt Damon Returns ®
Viewers: 3.70 million (#3), A18-49: 1.1/ 3 (#3)
CBS – Intelligence
Viewers: 7.04 million (#2), A18-49: 1.3/ 3 (#2)
NBC – XXII Olympics (Alpine Skiing, Short Track, Freestyle Skiing and Speed Skating)
Viewers: 21.91 million (#1), A18-49: 6.6/17 (#1)
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10:30 p.m.
ABC – Jimmy Kimmel Live: Matt Damon Returns ®
Viewers: 2.94 million (#3), A18-49: 0.9/ 2 (#3)
CBS – Intelligence
Viewers: 6.78 million (#2), A18-49: 1.2/ 3 (#2)
NBC – XXII Olympics (Alpine Skiing, Short Track, Freestyle Skiing and Speed Skating)
Viewers: 19.64 million (#1), A18-49: 6.1/17 (#1)
Source: Nielsen Media Research
Does Intelligence now have shot at renewal? Josh & Meghan are great together!
ReplyDeleteIf you look at the Renew/Cancel table linked in to in the article you will see where it currently stands.
ReplyDeleteNooooo Almost Human!! :(
ReplyDeleteNoo series low for HoD!I et it's cause of airing against Olympics.
ReplyDeleteAlmost Human has better story, characters, and gadgets then S.H.I.E.L.D. Yet it hasn't really caught on:(
ReplyDeleteI see what your saying but just because SPN is a winner on its network doesn't warrant a posting under winner,he doesn't do that with the other networks.
ReplyDeleteYeah I agree,BATB numbers suck,and if they can replace it with a better show that will bring in more viewers and better numbers then they would be crazy not to cancel it..
Beat me to it. :(
ReplyDeleteWhat are the chances of HoD getting cancelled. I know syndication is important but those ratings are pretty terrible :/
ReplyDeleteIts my 3rd favorite show on CW now, but i would be pissed if it got renewed and Reign with 0.6-0.7´s ratings would get cancelled
Ncis, Big Bang Theory and How I Met Your Mother are winners on Cbs (and in general), so I think they deserve the place on the winners list, like The Voice, Scandal, The Blacklist, Scandal, but I also think that some Cw shows deserve it (The Originals, The Vampire Diaries, Arrow and Supernatural). That's my thought. He clearly thinks different and considers (mainly) the good results of the shows of Abc, Nbc, Cbs and Fox.
ReplyDeleteSee the cancellation table.
ReplyDeleteCan someone explain the effects of half-hours to me?
ReplyDeleteThey will renew HoD over Reign cause HoD is cheap to make,close to syndicattion and has been stable in ratings for three seasons while Reign is exspensive,if renewed & moved from VD probably won't keep 0.6-0.7& is far from syndication.
ReplyDeleteI'm so depressed about this rating. :(
ReplyDeleteas happy as I am...we both know we won't get a second season :I
ReplyDeleteThese ratings aren't solid at all for a show of that callibre amd genre :(
sadly I doubt it, the ratings are far from impressive
ReplyDeleteI just hope they'll keep the show on for the remainder of its run
I don't think Reign and HoD are in competition. It's HoD vs. BatB and Reign vs. TTP.
ReplyDeleteHoD can cut down on the cast and locations so I'd say they're safe.
In fact I'd vote for a 34 episode pickup (a full season and a half) so they get to the 100 episodes they need. They could also shoot both seasons back to back and wrap up quicker and therefore save money. HoD currently has 6 regulars, cut three out and only leave the fan favs and they already saved a good chunk of money on actors alone.
HoD stands on a very good leg thanks to syndication
btw. every new show (Originals, Reign, TTP) would certainly drop by at least a 0.1 next season if renewed.
Why would Reign be moved away from TVD btw. ? That's pretty much the only viable show to pair it up with (and its lifeline)
Half hours are just a way to judge whether a show will potentially be adjusted up or down when the final ratings results come out. If a show was higher rated in its first half hour, then dropped in its last half hour, that just means that folks turned off the show half way through and went and watched something else. Consequentially, this could mean that the show may adjust down for the final rating. Vice versa if it rises in the last half hour. But until the final adjusted ratings come out, its just indicative, not predicative.
ReplyDeleteRoman, HoD is in its third season that gives it a.) seniority over Reign (due to having proven itself) and b.) being fairly cheap to make.
ReplyDeleteAnd keep in mind Reign is in its first season, of course it has better ratings than a veteran show.
Thank you:)
ReplyDeleteThere is a good chance that, if renewed, Reign is paired with Hart of Dixie on Fridays. In fact, if The 100 is renewed, I would think it's practically its only shot.
ReplyDeleteI kinda doubt its Hod vs BatB. Do you think BatB has chance to be renewed?, because wiht 0.3 ratings i doubt that theres even a small chance
ReplyDeleteHart of Dixie is certain to be renewed while Reign is a bubble show. I've written more about it here: http://www.spoilertv.com/2013/11/rating-analysis-state-of-cw-dramas.html
ReplyDeleteYou are incorrectly assuming that ratings are the only thing that matters when determining whether or not a show will get renewed. There are other factors that play a big role, particularly age (# episodes) considerations. Shows approaching syndication will have a big advantage whereas first year shows will have a big disadvantage (they are the furthest away from syndication and they tend to fall the most in upcoming seasons since their audience is still fickle). In addition, lead-in dynamics also play a role in some sporadic cases: while if both shows had the same age and the ratings the currently have (0.6/0.7 and 0.4), HoD would certainly be cancelled over Reign, if it was like 0.5-0.4, then HoD would most likely be the renewed one since it wouldn't have a big lead-in to prop it up (see also Beauty and the Beast collapse this year). I've explained more about all these factors here: www.spoilertv.com/2013/10/renewals-and-cancellations-decisions.html
wowza, Reigns chances look dimmer than I thought o.O
ReplyDeleteI'm waiting with my judgement about The 100 tough, I don't really remember any mid-season show on the CW pulling in remarkable numbers.
At least I don't see 100 doing better than Reign, simply due to it being late to the game and having a tougher (and significantly shorter) time to gather a fanbase + it doesen't have the marketing campaign Reign had behind it
But you're right if I think about it. SPN, TVD, Arrow, and TO are safe bets for renewal. I doubt they'd break the tuesday-dreamteam in two so we'd be left standing with a free monday line-up, a full tuesday lineup, a free spot on wed., a free spot on thurs. and a free spot on fridays (if ANTM returns.
I can't see the CW starting a season without at least 4 new shows. The Flash and Tribes are safe bets for being picked to series (simply due to the success of the original shows). I could see theCW pairing Tribes with TVD (mirroring TO/SPN) and Arrow with Flash. So the thursday and wednesday spot are gone. Leaving 3 free spots. At least one non-spin-off will go to series (they can not NOT launch a new franchise next year) that will probably take the monday spot.
Leaving friday and monday open with one spot each. IF The 100 is picked up it'll certainly fill up the friday spot. Leaving Reign vs. HoD for monday (wich I'd say is a battle HoD might win due to being close to syndication)
^ correct my logic if I'm wrong
I sincerely doubt it does. They didn't seem committed to keep the show and I was always saying that, despite the good ratings it was getting in January, it would need to keep them when faced the voice and the olympics again for FOX to go out of their way and renew it. The January ratings, while very nice, were achieved against a much easier competitive landscape than what Mondays usually offer. In fact, January is the easiest month for a Monday show in the regular season. Very sadly, but I kind of think this has sealed it for Almost Human unless it makes a drastic recovery in the next weeks.
ReplyDeleteIntelligence is still certain to be cancelled, sadly. I've written more about it here: http://www.spoilertv.com/2014/02/rating-analysis-updated-predictions-for.html
ReplyDeletewell it's a very clear fight atm. Two not well rated non-freshman shows (BatB vs. HoD) and two freshman dramas (TTP vs. Reign). With BatB vs. HoD the outcome is just easier to foresee.
ReplyDeleteBatB is currently being burned off by theCW it's not official yet but the show is done (unless they pull a Nikita on us)
I agree, but Hod might get shorter season like Nikita, ANTM will steal only a few Fridays laki this year (i thnik) and The 100 might be renewed for 13-eps 2nd season like TCD (i have a feeling that i read it somewhere a few months ago?)
ReplyDeleteYes, i know there are more factors, i just dont know how important
ReplyDeleteGoodbye Hart Of Dixie , Wellcome Star-Crossed!
ReplyDeleteHoD definitely won't get a shorther season, the sole reason of HoD probably getting renewed is because of the episode count (88 episodes by the end of season 4, syndication material) so in fact it might get a shorter season AFTER season 4 (12 episodes, to reach 100 episodes).
ReplyDeleteThe 100 might very likely get a shortened second season IF picked up. We'll see about that.
But I would vote for a full 22 episode season for The 100
Hod will be renewed due to syndication.SC could easily flop.
ReplyDeleteI don't think Reign's chances are awful, just very bubble.
ReplyDeleteRegarding your logic, some points:
- yes, there isn't a big precedent for the CW midseason shows being renewed, but there is not a lot of precedent for the CW midseason shows to begin with. For instance, two years ago (the season of Hart of Dixie, Ringer and The Secret Circle) they had 0 midseason shows, so logically they could renew 0 midseason shows. For what it's worth, they did renew The Carrie Diaries and Life Unexpected though.
- Having a shorter time to air is usually a good thing for ratings, not bad. Ratings tend to be higher the closest to the premiere the show is, especially on the CW, and then to fall over time. Obviously, there are exceptions, but this is what usually happens. So imagine if the 100 premieres with a 1.0 (just an example, I am not making an actual prediction). It may actually fall to just a 0.8 or so across the 7 episodes or it has to air in the regular season (before a renewal decision is made) whereas it could fall all the way to a 0.5 if it had to air the whole year - see also The Secret Circle. That show would have certainly be renewed had the decision been made after 8 episodes.
As for your scheduling, some points:
- Agree that Supernatural, TVD, Arrow and TO are certainly to return to the midweek schedule (Monday-Thursday)
- Hart of Dixie is certain to return and I will be shocked if it's not for Fridays
- The CW is certain to have 3 hours of new programming next fall, as it is what they always do and they will certainly premiere their new dramas on midweek schedule
- 4 returning dramas + 3 new dramas = 7 mid week hours fulfilled out of 8 mid week hours.
- Scenario A: The 100 is renewed. If renewed, I doubt they move it, because if they renew it it's because it's doing well after Arrow so they will probably leave it there, since they will only get to air 7 episodes after it. Even if they do move it, it will most likely be to Mondays/Tuesdays, I highly doubt it goes to Fridays after 7 regular season episodes as that would mean it wasn't successful enough to be renewed to begin with (last year they did renew TCD even if it wasn't successful but they don't need to do so this year). This only leaves one slot which is Fridays with Hart of Dixie, effectively requiring Whose Line and America's Next Top Model to air exclusively in the summer (and this is something I am not sure the CW will do, but it's possible)
- Scenario B: The 100 is cancelled. Because I doubt the CW premieres a 4th new drama on a weekday and because I don't see Hart of Dixie coming back to midweek, this would mean Reign gets that 8th spot, with America's Next Top Model and Whose Line sharing the second Friday slot, with HoD. In that case, I could even see Reign keeping the Thursday slot since they could probably launch something out of Arrow and The Originals and put The Flash on Monday with Supernatural.
if the CW cared about HOD's ratings they wouldn't have aired against the The Olympics, they are basically burning off as many episodes on Monday as they can before it switches to Friday.
ReplyDeleteFirst all bubble shows are in completion with each other for renewal.I was explaining why HoD would be renewd over Reign if it came to that cause of what OP said"I'll be upset if Reign gets cancelled over HoD"..Second,Reign will be moved away from VD if renewed cause VD will be used to launch a new show next season and both Nikita & BatB were moved away from it when they were renewed.HoD won't get more than a full fourth & final season at most so getting 34 is crazy,it won't make it to 100 episodesplus networks dont order more than 22-24 episodes a season. cW isnt cbs,trying to get its shows to 100 episodes.Plus, if it gets 0.4-0.3 in season three,how do you think it would do in season five (to get to 100?)?Look at Nikita:Pedowitz liked it,it was big internatinally yet only got a short final season.HoD could get a short final season like Nikita.Its also not HoD vs BatB:BatB is being pulled from the scdehule,put on hiatus,then used as summer burn off.BatB is done.So ,there is no competition .HoD would win anyway cause its close to syndication and has had better( though only slightly ) ratings this season.
ReplyDeleteIntelligence dropped from last week but actually did quite well considering the Olympics. Ouch for The Following. Series low (and the likelihood of it being adjusted up that much is slim). OK, it is up against the Olympics but even with that, the show is really dipping this season.
ReplyDeleteBut Nikita was also close to syndication and its 4th season got only 6 episodes
ReplyDeleteI Dont thinkg so .. Who The F*** will buy series with 0.3?! maybe on friday 0.2 .. the cw is not so stupied..
ReplyDeleteladala, in denial.
ReplyDeleteI don't understand it with the other Fox shows not doing too well either. I wouldn't mind if they'd just give it one more short season to wrap storylines. I just hate the idea of being left with a bunch of questions.
I promised myself I would enjoy the episodes I have gotten and not expect more and accept it but have gotten my hopes up along the way despite trying really hard not to. Lesson learned. Definitely buying the season when it comes on DVD and when it's not renewed going to enjoy what I have.
I was going to check out Gotham, but not so sure now that I found out it's on Fox. Will probably watch just out of being curious. Fringe was a lucky fluke with them. I don't know why they give "genre" themed shows a chance when only Fringe and Sleepy Hollow in recent years has been okay enough for them to give a pass. I'm glad SH made it though, but for how long? It's about the same as The Following last year, and look at The Following now. Maybe the ratings aren't too bad yet, but it's dropping in viewers still.
Nikita was renewed for a fourth season with 0.3-0.4& a couple 0.2 in season three so yes CW are that stupid.Plus,syndication is one of the top three sources of income for a network and CW exsist solely to syndicate as many of its shows as possible.Oh and GG got 0.4-0.4 in the end of season five five and into season six yet got a syndication deal so someone will buy very low rated shows in syndication.Even Dark Angel and True Calling which were low rated and cancelled after two seasons were syndicated.People speculate abcfamily ,or maybe WE or Lifetime will buy HoD.
ReplyDeleteBummer:(
ReplyDeleteI hope the following gets renewed for a season 3 but its not looking to good for them right now.
ReplyDeleteumm...they ain't all in competition. A non-freshman show won't battle it out with a freshman show simply due to both not being able to be compared (different ratings etc.)
ReplyDeleteand how do you know it won't get a 34 episode pick-up ? Granted something like this never happened but it'd make sense if a network, hellbent on delivering a show soley for syndication, could commit its actors and crew to another 34 episodes to be shot in a row. Why ? Saving.Money. Shows going on summer hiatus without a renewal note often does pretty nasty things (sets being salvaged for other shows etc.) so another pickup would be made impossible. In my eyes such a strategy would make sense, pay off and immediately make HoD elligable for syndication. It could be a new strategy to come to a full deal faster than planned.
Ummm...wrong. TheCW is EXACTLY the network that creates shows intended for syndication. CBS, FoX etc are a lot more willing to experiment with its shows. TheCW sticks to old shticks and tries to push out show after show for syndication to make the big bucks.
Fringe was kept around for exactly that reason on FOX
And Nikita got a shortened final season exactly because Pedowitz loved it so bad.
HoD, if renewed, will only be renewed TO GET TO SYNDICATION. And the syndication mark is 100 (88 is risky business).
ordering 11 more episodes of a cheap to produce show is a logical step if you want to profit from it and play a safe game.
Clearly HoD has already won the fight.
It's just not Reign vs.HoD because Reign is still batteling TTP. IF Reign comes out winning with TTP and The100 is indeed picked up we can call it a fight between Reign and HoD. At this point HoD is out of the ring and in a safe spot watching Reign and HoD battle it out
In the very end: HoD is theCWs Gilmore Girls, making it to a safe number for syndication is only logical
Syndication numbers are now 88, not 100 though CBS at least gets its shows to 100.But CW shows have such low ratings,there's no justifying renewing a show for 100 episodes when it can be sold with 88.Though 100 is easier sell,andd more profitable,than 88.If CW wanted to get 100 episodes for syndication, Nikita wouldntve had been given a short final season and 99.9% of its shows wouldnt survive to syndication.If GG & 90210 hadnt gotten to 100 when they did, they wouldnt have lasted as long as they did.Rght now,only OTH,SMV,ANTM,SPN,GG,90210,VD have reached 100 episodes.In seven years,seven shows out of 10 ( at least ) shows a season have made it syndication numbers.
ReplyDeleteThere was never a rule for there to be 100 episodes and there's no definite number. 100 is just a three-digit number and tells networks 'there're enough episodes in this show to fill timeslots'.
ReplyDeleteYou treat 88 like it's the new 100 while it isn't. It's just 'closer' to the big 100 and has a few networks turn a blind eye.
Recently you put your own fuel to the fire wishing for the demise of BATB and JR and KK out of work by May. So don't come on here pretending you are so upstanding for the fandom. You and others did a great job of making it look bad already. By the way, How is my comprehension and is it up to your superior quality?
ReplyDeleteComprehension? Since I was neither defending the fandom, nor talking to you. not good it seems...
ReplyDeleteYes, my comprehension. You pretend you don't remember Mr Heavy Metal Guy? You came on here to the fandom wishing for the demise of certain shows that are not to YOUR liking and enjoying the fact that certain actors may be out of work soon. Then you call me out on my comprehension when I try defending the show. So who the hell are you telling anyone they are adding fuel to the fire when you come to these forums and give your superior arrogant opinions from behind your cowardly computer. My English is not the best but I do know how to spell "arrogant prick" Next time think before you reply to someone's post and if you have nothing nice to say then say nothing at all.
ReplyDeleteI do remember. I also remember apologizing for it to all BatB fans on this site, including a special apology to the poster i was talking to (obviously you don't remember and/or have a very hard time letting things go). Anyway, get over yourself, and I cannot stress this enough, GET OVER YOURSELF AND GO TROLL SOMEONE ELSE POSTS. I'm done feeding this troll.
ReplyDeleteHoD won't make it 100, unless every show besides the top four(Arrow,SPN,VD,TO) completely bombs.Pedowitz liked Nikita and WB reportedly pushed for a full fourth season but that didn't happen.Nikita ended well before syndication numbers,If CW wasn't willing to get a show he liked to 100 episodes for syndication,do you think he's really going to try a show he dosent care about there?No.Also ,Nikita on fri in season three got mainly 0.3-0.4.and CW decided to end it and only give it a short ,very short ,final season.HoD has been getting 0.4 on Mon ( I'm not counting yesterday's 0.3 cause of the Olmpics) and if it gets 0.3-0.4 on fri,(who knows howll itll do with Whose Line) they could very well decide to end it before reaching syndication numbers.like Nikita
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