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Ratings News - 1st December 2014

1 Dec 2014

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Today's Early Overnight Ratings

This table shows the early overnight ratings. These ratings are normally adjusted later in the day when all the ratings have been consolidated to take into account any local preemptions and/or overruns. You can find all the final adjusted numbers in our Ratings Database. (See the About section below for details about ratings)

Tables being updated live. Please refresh for updates.


Early Ratings Analysis

The analysis below is based on the early household numbers and are NOT the same as the numbers that will be posted in the above table later. (See the About section below)

For more information on the Nielsen Ratings see this Wikipedia Entry.

NOTE: The opinions expressed here are NOT those of SpoilerTV but of the Author of this Article, Marc Berman.

Sunday 11/30/14 Metered Markets
Football Overrun Ignites CBS; Respectable Return for “The Mentalist”

Household
Rating/Share
CBS 10.5/16
NBC 10.3/16
ABC 3.3/ 5
Fox 1.6/ 2

-Percent Change from the Year-Ago Evening – Sunday 12/01/13:
NBC: +14, CBS: – 5, ABC: -20, Fox: -27

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Note: The following labels are based on the household overnights and are subject to change given the availability of other pending data streams. The overnights are your first look at what to potentially expect when the other results come in. And we always take into account other benchmarks including the expected demographic ratings, potential DVR usage, the critical acclaim (or lack of) and the social media presence. Keep in mind, as always, that results for any live sporting event are always approximate.

-Winners:
“Sunday Night Football” (NBC), “60 Minutes” (CBS)

-Honorable Mention:
“Madam Secretary” (CBS), “The Mentalist” (CBS)

-Losers (excluding repeats):
“Mulaney” (Fox), “Brooklyn Nine-Nine” (Fox), “Resurrection” (ABC), “Bob’s Burgers” (Fox), “Revenge” (ABC)

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Ratings Breakdown:
Before we begin, keep in mind that last night featured the midseason finale of “The Walking Dead” on AMC. That said, an estimated 21.9 rating/35 share in the household overnights for a 7-7:30 p.m. primetime football overrun on CBS gave the Eye net a two-tenth of a rating point (or two percent) advantage over NBC overall for the evening. But CBS, of course, will not even come close to NBC in the key young adult demos.

“Sunday Night Football” on NBC, featuring the Denver Broncos versus the Kansas City Chiefs, averaged an approximate 13.4/20 in the overnights from 8:30-11 p.m. (peaking in the 9 p.m. half-hour at a 14.0/21). Comparably, this was 11 percent above the 12.1/19 for the New York Giants at the Washington Redskins one year earlier (and that translated into 17.75 million viewers and a 6.2 rating/16 share among adults 18-49, based on the Live Plus Same Day data).

Earlier in the evening on NBC was pre-game show “Football Night in America” at a 1.6/ 3 at 7 p.m. (#4), a 5.6/ 9 at 7:30 p.m. (#2) and an 8.3/13 (#2) in the 8 p.m. half-hour. As a reminder, results for any live sporting event are always estimated.

On CBS, and out of the massive primetime football overrun, was a later edition of granddaddy “60 Minutes” at a dominant 12.3/19 from 7:30-8:30 p.m. That led into an also above average 8.8/13 in the overnights for freshman “Madam Secretary” from 8:30-9:30 p.m., followed by the seventh – and final – season-premiere of drama “The Mentalist” at a solid 7.3/11 from 9:30-10:30 p.m. The first-half of CBS’ delayed “CSI” scored a second-place 5.7/ 9 at 10:30 p.m.

Elsewhere, ABC has sprung a leak in the 9 p.m. hour as a result of sophomore “Resurrection” at a series-low 2.7/ 4 (#3), which dipped by 31 percent in the overnights from demo friendly lead-in “Once Upon a Time” (#3: 3.9/ 6 from 8-9 p.m.). “Revenge” at 10 p.m. managed to perk up to a 3.1/ 5, but this is still a shell of what the show once was. And veteran “America’s Funniest Home Videos” opened the evening for the alphabet net at a below-average 3.6/ 5 from 7-8 p.m.

On Fox, an encore telecast of animated half-hour special “Ice Age: A Mammoth Christmas” opened with a 1.8/ 3 at 7 p.m., which led into a series-low 1.0/ 4 (#4) for waiting-to-be axed “Mulaney” at 7:30 p.m. Unlike Jerry Seinfeld, John Mulaney does not have the luxury of a stellar supporting cast to carry this sitcom. Next on Fox: a repeat of “The Simpsons” at 8 p.m. (#4: 1.7/ 2) led into a weak 2.1/ 3 for “Brooklyn Nine-Nine” at 8:30 p.m. (#4), followed by an encore of “Family Guy” (#4: 1.6/ 2) and recently relocated “Bob’s Burgers” (#4: 1.5/ 2) from 9-10 p.m.

Source: Nielsen Media Research data


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192 comments:

  1. hopefully ONCE And Revenge stayed steady in the demos

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  2. Try to resurrect that, ABC. Such a shame. Resurrection has been amazing this season.

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  3. Oh no, everything on ABC looks down! Those HH for Revenge are really worriesome! I'll wait to see the demos, but it's not looking good

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  4. I just hope OUAT keeps its steady rating :(

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  5. OUAT will be in the low 2.0 again.

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  6. That doesn't look good four ONCE. :(

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  7. Oh my this doesn't look good for revenge

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  8. Wow that's a big dip for Resurrection :(

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  9. B99 on the loser list:(

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  10. I'm assuming since its a spot on the table and it's blank right now that they don't have those numbers yet.

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  11. I hope that these demos for revenge don't translate to a 1.1 again. Cause it can't afford to get another rating like that.

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  12. I think Marc jumped the gun there, I don't think the demos will justify B99 being a loser. Besides, it aired out of a Simpsons encore, we were not going to see a great performance anyway

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  13. Me neither. It's pretty much like this:
    1.3= Pretty much ok with it.
    1.2= Sad, but I can take it.
    1.1= Depressing.
    1.0= Soul Crushing.

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  14. i think the problem is it is too dependent on the Simpsons and once spring comes it will only get worst

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  15. Why is FOX airing the bottom of the hour comedies only? I hope B99 did well in the demo.


    Hope Revenge didn't fall too much either.

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  16. Fingers crossed for REVENGE!!

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  17. Patrick Ausgewahlt1 December 2014 at 15:22

    Bob's Burger is kinda necessary because it only aired 2 episodes in the first two months of the season. I dunno about Brooklyn Nine-Nine. It's been new every week besides the World Series this year. Does it have like a 25 episode order? Maybe its to showcase the affect of lead in. Going from Football Simpsons, regular Simpsons, to repeat Simpsons as a lead in. Are they going to air it at 7:30 next week to see what further downgrades can do?

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  18. I try to see it a little bit more possitve and think that it has great Simpsons retention, so even if The Simpsons doesn't do that good during spring I expect B99 to be on the 1.4-1.6 range as long as it doesn't air out of repeats

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  19. Top 25 Market Numbers are now in the table

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  20. SGU (was Teen Wolfers)1 December 2014 at 15:32

    Oh dear OUAT seems lower then i'd like. Really amazing episode though hopefully that helps it next week.

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  21. That's terrible for ABC!!! OUAT back at Season 3 numbers, Resurrection at a deadly 0.9 and Revenge fell right back to 1.2. Just absolutely terrible! Resurrection had an excuse cause it was off for three weeks and it went up against the midseason finale of Walking Dead but still....CBS and FOX did good though.

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  22. Ugh Revenge was really great last night once again and still it has poor ratings.
    At least The Walking Dead doesn't air at 10p or else Revenge would be drop dead.

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  23. OUCH @ ABC
    What happen to ONCE

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  24. That's only the top 25, revenge is probably a 1.1 :(

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  25. Was it because yesterday was a holiday weekend that everything fell?

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  26. Oy vey, that's even worse. ABC BETTER not put Revenge in January like they did last year....it'll get slaughtered.

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  27. Everything on abc looks so down.

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  28. At least it has the highest Top 25 ratings for the night.

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  29. CSI up with Mentalist as a lead... I'm not surprised, CSI had a bad lead

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  30. I sure hope not, it will ruin all the chances it has left for a short final season.

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  31. Brooklyn 99, Bobs Burgers, Madam Secretary, CSI and football didnt fall and Mentalist premiered well. Only ABC fell.

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  32. The show is 16 years old, lead in has nothing to do with it

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  33. It bothers me that the best episode this season seems to be about to get the worst ratings! So unfair

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  34. It still could do better than season 3's 9th episode in the demos, last year the 9th episode got a 1.9, so unless it drops quite a bit from the top 25 it'll beat last year.

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  35. SGU (was Teen Wolfers)1 December 2014 at 15:42

    Same, I would have liked higher for 408 as well. I hope this isn't a trend :P

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  36. SGU (was Teen Wolfers)1 December 2014 at 15:42

    I'll be really disappointed if it drops below 2.0, I don't think it will though.

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  37. TWD really slayed Resurrection. A 0.9 in the top 25? Ouch...
    I think Revenge would have done better at 9PM holding a bit more of OUAT audience, but TWD is a powerhouse to be reckoned with.

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  38. I was hoping for a 2.7 for Smash The Mirror, so that was a bit disappointing. Hopefully the show can get back in track by the midseason finale.


    I do take comfort in the fact that so far S4 is better rated than S3, it has grown on every telecast so far

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  39. I'm sad to see Once hitting the low 2s again. The only good thing I can say about Resurrection is that at least it'll be gone from ABC's schedule by the time Once returns from its winter break.

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  40. The Mentalist 1.6 is higher than most Good Wife leads in that it normally gets.

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  41. The lead is a factor, but I agree there is other reasons it's down : the fact it's an old show of course but to me it would do better on another timeslot... The delays are killing the ratings. Who wants to watch a show which is aired on Sunday at 10:40 pm. ? Even hardcore fans prefer to watch it online later.

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  42. That 0.9 is probably dragging revenge down.

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  43. Madam Secretary so far has done much better than I ever expected. I think CBS will pick it over Stalker for a second season

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  44. Ikr I guess a huge chunk of viewers have decided to take a break from abc for one week

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  45. I mean... AMC should just buy Revenge and put it after The Walking Dead.
    I'm just saying. LOL.

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  46. Well, as long as OUAT has the ratings for another season, and that is the case, I'm okay.

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  47. Revenge and OUAT1 December 2014 at 15:52

    Oh no revenge :( but numbers can always change

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  48. SGU (was Teen Wolfers)1 December 2014 at 15:52

    I think most people including ABC were hoping the ratings would stay higher for longer though. I really hope it doesn't fall below 2.0 at all this season but that might be wishful thinking.

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  49. OUAT definitely has ratings for next season. As long as it stays on a certain renewal I won't worry.

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  50. Revenge and OUAT1 December 2014 at 15:55

    I swear if revenge Hits a 1.1 i will cry. It does not deserve those numbers. I Would be completely fine with a 1.3 but nth below but as we have seen top 25 van be very different

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  51. Sad for revenge, but I think that resurrections 0.9 is dragging it down

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  52. Revenge and OUAT1 December 2014 at 15:57

    Hmm we shall see. Many things can change. No matter what though it will rise next week when the walking dead is gone, the mentalist is on wednesday and the fact that it is the MSF. How was last night?

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  53. I thought that it was ok, but still enjoyable. The mentalist is in Wednesday now?

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  54. Lol revenge would be hitting 3s

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  55. The Mentalist will also air on Sundays for the next 4 episodes, and then move to Wednesdays.

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  56. Fast Nationals - ABC half hours

    Once 2.0/2.0
    Resurrection 0.8/0.8
    Revenge 1.1/1.0

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  57. Nope, but it will move to Wednesdays starting Jan 7.

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  58. Ouch abc took a hitting

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  59. Fabiana de Marca1 December 2014 at 16:07

    what happend with ABC last night?

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  60. What happened to OUAT!?

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  61. They were preempted last week and aired on Walking Dead final nigh....that's what.

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  62. Bad night for abc overall. What happened?

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  63. Revenge got a 1.1:(

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  64. Revenge is so getting cancelled. The smart thing for ABC to do would be to promote it as the final season from the mid-season premiere onwards.

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  65. You take this way too seriously

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  66. Way too seriously.

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  67. A 1.0 in revenges second hour is just horrible

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  68. B-99 rose 40% of it's lead-in, that's something.

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  69. THE WAITING FOR THE MENTALIST RATING IS KILLING ME ;_________;

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  70. A 1.4 without The Simpsons is pretty good for B99

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  71. 1.6 on 18-49. Pretty decent for CBS

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  72. That's pretty good for The Mentalist. Same as least season's premiere.

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  73. Hopefully abc can rebound next week

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  74. God what happened to OUAT ? :o

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  75. I just hope this is an off week for ABC and that next week they'll bounce back, but if they don't, Revenge needs to be announced as a final season. Cancelling it and leaving it with a cliffhanger will be unnaceptable!

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  76. Both once and revenge dropped 4-5 tenths

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  77. TM is a more compatible lead-in to CSI than TGW, which actually would probably help a show like Elementary more. TM off to great start.

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  78. Revenge and OUAT1 December 2014 at 16:15

    WTF revenge ;( it is done

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  79. I think the low ratings on ABC had a lot to do with TWD wrapping up last night. I normally don't even watch Talking Dead live but skipped Revenge to watch it. I'm sure a lot of others done the same.

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  80. The shows took a break last week and yesterday was part of the holiday weekend

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  81. THANK YOU SO MUCH I didn't expect that high bec of TWD and zero promotion from CBS but OMG!!!!!!!!!❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

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  82. Ikr it's just soul crushing to see it get a 1.0.

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  83. If that number for Madam Secretary holds, it would be its best demo since the series premiere. It might adjust down, but it would still be good. Even if it adjusts down three tenths, it would tie last week's episode.

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  84. Oh God, HORRIBLE numbers for EVERYTHING! Especially ABC.

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  85. Actually not bad for Brooklyn considering it had a repeat for a lead in.

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  86. Revenge and OUAT1 December 2014 at 16:17

    It will rise next week anyway but still. Let us just enjoy revenge now until it ends :) isn't that what a show is supposed to be about? I will not even look at TVBTN

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  87. Fabiana de Marca1 December 2014 at 16:19

    thanks ouat still ok

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  88. ABC just got slapped in the face with these numbers. Have they ever had a Sunday this low, with new episodes?

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  89. Madam Secretary has been the surprise of the season: I thought it would keep droping until it stabilized on low 1s, but it has steadily held on an audience . Lead in or no lead in, the show has proved it can do 1.5+rating and that stability just surprises me. I think chances for a second season are becoming higher and higher every week

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  90. I hope Once is adjusted up and I hope it bounces back up next week.
    As for Revenge, it's going to be cancelled this season, and frankly I won't miss it. I loved this show during its first two season but stopped watching at the beginning of the 3rd. My sister bailed at the end of the 3rd season and even my mother dropped it this season. The three of us once used to watch it together and now I don't know anybody in RL who still watches Revenge.

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  91. Well I hope that these ratings are from the fact that it had to face the mentalist premiering, the talking dead that comes the season finale of the walking dead ( which was sad) and the fact that it's part of a holiday weekend. I'm not going to TVBTN either, a lot of people will start feuds with me, especially since revenge got a 1.0

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  92. resurrection is killing revenge, omg

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  93. Yep, I agree. Especially because Stalker is in the same demo range and sometimes even lower.

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  94. Just stop with the excuses

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  95. Last year on January; Revenge got good ratings there, but as a whole the night had a bad avarage.
    But I don't think they had such low ratings with three new originals of scripted show on the night, not even when Betrayal was doing 0.7s

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  96. B99 did very well considering the simpsons went into repeats; it only lost 0.1 from last week. CBS, pending adjustments, also had a very good night - The Mentalist returned well.



    Ouch at ABC. I didn't expect to see OUAT at those levels during the fall, but hopefully it rebounds next week. Depressing for Revenge but Resurrection really hit new depths of bad yesterday, and I think that for Revenge to outgrow it by 0.2 at 10pm isn't a small feat, despite its still awful numbers in absolute.

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  97. THE MENTALIST GOT 1.6 I can't believe this!!!!!! SO PROUD❤️

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  98. Revenge is dead and I can't imagine the numbers it will have in January...

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  99. Revenge and OUAT1 December 2014 at 16:22

    Why though?! They better rise next week

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  100. I hope this is just an off weak for ABC and that everything rises next week.


    As for B99, I'm really surprised that the show held on its own. Its 18-34 is still fantastic (a 1.2 is nothing to be ashamed about) and its only off a tenth from last weel. Sundays seems like a good night for B99

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  101. If it doesn't bounce back next week, ABC surely needs to be calling a quit and announce the final season. I really don't want to see the cancellation just coming up on May and the show ending on a cliffhanger :S

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  102. Happy for The Mentalist :)
    I hope we will stay steady. We don´t need Red John and I hope this puts the discussion to rest forever!!!

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  103. The Mentalists fans are very loyal, and I think they wouldn't miss the final season no matter what. I expect to do decent business when it airs on Wednesdays

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  104. Revenge and OUAT1 December 2014 at 16:26

    There was a time when i watched all my shows without thinking about or looking at Ratings. What a nice time that was.....

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  105. Me too. I will give it more week, and if it doesn't bounce back to at least a 1.3 next week for the mid season finale, then I think that they need to promote it as a final season in spring and end it rather then canceling it.

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  106. I only found out about ratings just a few years ago. But it was nice to watch my shows without worrying

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  107. Revenge and OUAT1 December 2014 at 16:30

    Me too but I will never be able to go back to that "(

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  108. Me too. I love the show too much to see it end with a cliff.

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  109. Stephen J. Sheridan1 December 2014 at 16:30

    it was thanksgiving weekend and football. People were probably traveling back home.

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  110. Stephen J. Sheridan1 December 2014 at 16:31

    plus football

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  111. ———-
    7:00 p.m.

    ABC – America’s Funniest Home Videos
    Viewers: 5.07 million (#3), A18-49: 0.8/ 2 (#3t)

    CBS – NFL Football Overrun
    Viewers: 31.17 million (#2), A18-49: 9.2/26 (#1)

    NBC – Football Night in America, part one
    Viewers: 6.62 million (#2), A18-49: 2.0/ 6 (#2)

    Fox – Ice Age: A Mammoth Christmas (R)
    Viewers: 2.59 million (#4), A18-49: 0.8/ 2 (#3t)

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    7:30 p.m.

    ABC – America’s Funniest Home Videos
    Viewers: 6.81 million (#3), A18-49: 1.4/ 4 (#3)

    CBS – 60 Minutes
    Viewers: 18.84 million (#1), A18-49: 4.3/12 (#1t)

    NBC – Football Night in America, part two
    Viewers: 12.19 million (#2), A18-49: 4.3/12 (#1t)

    Fox – Mulaney
    Viewers: 1.54 million (#4), A18-49: 0.6/ 2 (#4)

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    8:00 p.m.

    ABC – Once Upon a Time
    Viewers: 6.35 million (#3), A18-49: 2.0/ 5 (#3)

    CBS – 60 Minutes
    Viewers: 17.71 million (#1), A18-49: 3.1/ 8 (#2)

    NBC – Football Night in America, part three
    Viewers: 15.39 million (#2), A18-49: 5.3/14 (#1)

    Fox – The Simpsons (R)
    Viewers: 2.57 million (#4), A18-49: 1.0/ 3 (#4)

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    8:30 p.m.

    ABC – Once Upon a Time
    Viewers: 6.24 million (#3), A18-49: 2.0/ 5 (#2t)

    CBS – Madam Secretary
    Viewers: 13.53 million (#1), A18-49: 2.0/ 5 (#2t)

    NBC – Sunday Night Football (Denver at Kansas City)
    Viewers: 19.83 million (#2), A18-49: 6.7/17 (#1)

    Fox – Brooklyn Nine-Nine
    Viewers: 3.09 million (#4), A18-49: 1.4/ 5 (#4)

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    9:00 p.m.

    ABC – Resurrection
    Viewers: 3.64 million (#3), A18-49: 0.8/ 2 (#4)

    CBS – Madam Secretary
    Viewers: 12.44 million (#2), A18-49: 1.8/ 4 (#2)

    NBC – Sunday Night Football (Denver at Kansas City)
    Viewers: 19.08 million (#1), A18-49: 6.3/16 (#1)

    Fox – Family Guy (R)
    Viewers: 2.41 million (#4), A18-49: 1.1/ 3 (#3)

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    9:30 p.m.

    ABC – Resurrection
    Viewers: 3.51 million (#3), A18-49: 0.8/ 2 (#4)

    CBS – The Mentalist (season premiere)
    Viewers: 10.62 million (#2), A18-49: 1.5/ 4 (#2)

    NBC – Sunday Night Football (Denver at Kansas City)
    Viewers: 18.51 million (#1), A18-49: 6.3/15 (#1)

    Fox – Bob’s Burgers
    Viewers: 2.21 million (#4), A18-49: 1.0/ 2 (#4)

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    10:00 p.m.

    ABC – Revenge
    Viewers: 4.09 million (#3), A18-49: 1.1/ 3 (#3)

    CBS – The Mentalist (season premiere)
    Viewers: 10.11 million (#2), A18-49: 1.6/ 4 (#2)

    NBC – Sunday Night Football (Denver at Kansas City)
    Viewers: 17.39 million (#1), A18-49: 6.3/16 (#1)

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    10:30 p.m.

    ABC – Revenge
    Viewers: 4.04 million (#3), A18-49: 1.0/ 3 (#3)

    CBS – CSI
    Viewers: 8.28 million (#2), A18-49: 1.4/ 4 (#2)

    NBC – Sunday Night Football (Denver at Kansas City)
    Viewers: 16.13 million (#1), A18-49: 5.9/17 (#1)

    Source: Nielsen Media Research

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  112. Stephen J. Sheridan1 December 2014 at 16:32

    thanksgiving weekend, football, walking dead had something going on I think?

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  113. Revenge and OUAT1 December 2014 at 16:32

    Abc would not cancel revenge this week right?

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  114. At the same time you just to see it get closure and not get canceled like that

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  115. Hell no. Not right before the midseason finale.

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  116. No wonder Revenge got 1, just look at this horrible lead-in. Even worse than a repeat of The Simpsons. Hopefully Revenge adjusts up. 1 is low.

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  117. Revenge and OUAT1 December 2014 at 16:33

    Ok good because it will rise for the MSF

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  118. Absolutely not!

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  119. Revenge and OUAT1 December 2014 at 16:34

    I hope so too and that next week it rises to a 1.3 again. I am very sad but i still have to watch the episode how was it?

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  120. Their not going to base it's chances of renewal just on one week. If it continues getting these ratings then I'm pretty sure they will announce it as the final season in spring.

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  121. It was pretty born IMO Their was a big reveal about Margo but thats about it.

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  122. Haven't watched it yet. Will watch it in a while. I don't know why, but I'm not that sad. Just look at all the number . They're all horrible.

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  123. so revenge at 1.1 is safe & Ressurection at .9 is doomed.. my guess is Fans of Walking Dead that are also fans of Ressurection .dvr'd ressurection it was TWD fall finale

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  124. Overall I'm sad for abc. Bad numbers all around accept for ouat, but still sad that's it's back to low 2s

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  125. Nope. 1.4 with a Simpons repeat lead-in says it it is not too dependent.

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  126. i think abc would have a little better night if they just switched revenge and resurrection, until secrets of lies premieres.

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  127. As I exspected Once down... so tell me how can I not worry? I was rght.

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  128. as I said many people are upset with the show and that doesn't help. :( Damn if it goes 0.8 bye S5. I'll hate everything

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  129. yes... too much hate from people & it kills the ratings. :/ I hope it won't get the show axed or I'll scream. You gotta admit I'm right to worry now. All my fav goes...

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  130. Probably because they spend far too many episodes dicking around uselessly without advancing plot or characterization so when they do, the ratings have already hit low for the storyline.

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  131. Are you sure? What made you say that?

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  132. One can hope not.

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  133. ABC promoted OUAT this week so much, it got REALLY annoying.

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  134. Oh God. I hate those ratings for revenge!

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  135. I still want s5... :'(... desperate me...

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  136. ugh it kills me that football got a 9.2 i mean.. WHY

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  137. ABC won't renew any show till August or May 2015 right? Just to know

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  138. Do you know what show TM will compete with when it moves to Wednesday? I cant find anything right now:(

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  139. Revenge killed itself with terrible writing. It's not Resurrection's fault.

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  140. Christopher DeBono1 December 2014 at 17:25

    Upfronts in May normally. (roughly the 2nd week of May)

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  141. ok. Torture to wait. & a shame if we won't see OUAT end. :'(

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  142. SGU (was Teen Wolfers)1 December 2014 at 17:47

    Hate? What hate? 2.0 is lower than I'd like but it's still far from danger.

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  143. guys if Ouat gets axad let's gather & shout ok? To have it back. How's with me? Just a thought...

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  144. OUAT won't get axed even if it keeps doing 2.0s

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  145. SGU (was Teen Wolfers)1 December 2014 at 17:57

    It's probably safe as long as it's at 1.7 or above. I don't see it going that low and staying there for a while, not this season anyway.

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  146. many people are hating on producers because they don't like their choices anymore. It willl be a shame if we won't see this show end because of them.

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  147. if it goes lower? Still safe?

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  148. Is that an all time low for OUAT in the 18-49? 'Cause it sure looks like it...

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  149. No. In season 3, OUAT was down to 1.8.

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  150. It'll be in danger when it starts doing 1.5s I guess.
    But nowadays even shows with low 1.0s get renewed so

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  151. Actually the series low was episode 18 of last year which had a 1.7

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  152. It got down to 1.7 last year and was renewed.

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  153. Which was a outliner due to airing on Easter Sunday. The show bounced right back.

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  154. thanks anyway I've decided if OUAT gets cancelled that's the last serie I ever watch. Everything I like gets axed so.

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  155. There were one or two other 1s in season 3.

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  156. if OUAT goes I quit watching tv series. Everything I watch gets axed :/

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  157. Look at the table. OUAT is still the fictional network show nr. 1 on sundays in the demo. OUAT is the only working Abc show. No reason for panic.

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  158. That's a big 'IF.' t There is still plenty of episodes left before they even think about cancelling or ending the series.


    They could possibly end the series once it gets to 88 episodes so it could go into syndication but i think the show will get picked up for another year..

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  159. I see. It's a shame they wasted the boost the frozen arch gave them. They could have cemented the show for years and years instead the GA is giving up on it, again. I can't see them giving it a third chance... Unless, of course, this was just a fluke. It happens around Thanksgiving. We'll see.

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  160. Even though Revenge is "meh" at best these days, it's still sad to see it get such numbers. Unless it rebounds next week, ABC really needs to announce this as the final season. Otherwise, the writers won't have time to wrap up the loose ends and write a proper series finale.

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  161. OUAT doesn't get a second chance beause it didn't even need a second chance. The ratings were above the ABC average all the time. The show was never in danger.

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  162. No, but lower than 2.0

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  163. ONCE is not listening to the fans. The show was about family and strong characters. Now its just BS about hormones and plot holes.

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  164. Shit everything on abc dropped. That's so bad. I hope it maintains this or rise, fingers crossed it doesn't fall. Can abc just drop ressurrection already.

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  165. I agree. ABC should just burn off Resurrection in January. It will have 4 episodes left. That could air the entire month of January followed by Shark Tank repeats or Forever episodes that can air on both Sunday and Tuesday to quickly begin to burn it off.

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  166. The biggest positive is that Revenge is still doing better in the 10pm hour than what Betrayal did last year. It has improved the ratings for ABC in that hour. Now they need a better drama at 9pm.

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  167. But I feel Brooklyn Nine-Nine would be able to garner a 1.4 on Tuesday as well if FOX ever decided to go back to a 2 hour comedy night.

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  168. I know it is hard to see. Last year, Revenge's lowest demo rating of the season was a 1.3. So ABC had to expect the possibility that it could hit demo lower than that this season putting it on a 10pm. I'm just hoping that it doesn't get 1.0 consistently throughout the rest of the year now as what Forever is doing on Tuesday. But I do think Revenge can rebound and pull in 1.3's once again. I feel ABC shouldn't have aired it on Thanksgiving holiday weekend.

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  169. I agree. I have to give credit to Revenge for actually growing .2 demo out of Resurrection, airing in the 10pm timeslot.

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  170. I agree. But I did not see promos for both Resurrection and Revenge. Because of the holiday and ABC knowing their would be no originals of Scandal and HTGAWM, Revenge should have been promoted heavily during Dancing with the Stars finale.

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  171. It was stupid of abc to air regular programming on a holiday weekend. I wish that they would've done what they did last year. They could've aired that special that come in place of revenge and ressurrection in December 14 last week. They could've just aired the last episodes on November 17 and had them both come back December 7 and finish of with ouat on December 14

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  172. With the way it's been dropping this season I don't know how long will that be the case. And I never meant second chance with the network I meant the viewers that came back for the Frozen stuff won't be lulled back for a third time and that is certainly doesn't mean good for the show's future.

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  173. There will be. Even with how badly it's written it gets better ratings than ABC gets for anything that's not on Thursday night.

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  174. ... This is hilarious

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  175. It's FAR from the only working ABC show. But it's the only one on Sunday

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  176. thanks and to me it's not bad written but amazingly written.

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  177. I guess if you're into gigantic plot holes and no characterization

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  178. I do not see that. Sorry.

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  179. You're so lucky. The show can't even hold a plot together for an entire episode. I wish I didn't notice they have women pregnant for 18 months and cannot even get continuity in the same episode.

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  180. still don't agree. Let me love it.

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  181. What does loving it have to do with anything? But okay.

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