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Almost Human - Cancelled

30 Apr 2014

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Per Deadline, the show's not getting a second season.
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130 comments:

  1. Paula Ireri30 April 2014 at 03:14

    NOOOOOOOOOOOO :(

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  2. klutzy_girl30 April 2014 at 03:14

    Whoa, I am not here for the news Dad's chances for renewal are going up.

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  3. Nirat Anop30 April 2014 at 03:15

    NOOOOOOO!!!!! X2 seriously why! :(

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  4. Justin Valdes30 April 2014 at 03:15

    Ugh, I had a feeling this was coming when The Following got renewed. This show had so much potentional and could have been something amazing. This just ruined my night :(

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  5. TarotManiac30 April 2014 at 03:15

    Well I'm not surprised, though I am disappointed, it's chances at a second season were already slim since it premiered

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  6. DebraFan30 April 2014 at 03:16

    FRAK!!! FRAKITTY FRACK!!!

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  7. Pablo Troncoso30 April 2014 at 03:17

    With everything at FOX delivering low 1s, and this show being able to rise from 1.6 to 2.0 with no promotion and then remain in the mids 1s after The Olympics this choice seems like a dumb one to me. This was a steady performer! It is what FOX needs!

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  8. Bruce_F30 April 2014 at 03:18

    Duh. I liked the show but AH was never getting a season 2.

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  9. Pablo Troncoso30 April 2014 at 03:19

    If what deadline says about Dads turns out to be truth and the show gets renewed I will feel really embarrased for FOX

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  10. DarylsGirl30 April 2014 at 03:22

    :(

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  11. GsMumbo30 April 2014 at 03:28

    Well... that sucks :(

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  12. Nirat Anop30 April 2014 at 03:30

    I'm really going to miss the characters, Rudy and especially Dorian and John, they were awesome. :(

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  13. Justin Valdes30 April 2014 at 03:35

    The Kennex/Dorian bromance is probably my favorite bromance ever. I loved it so much. Damn, this really hurts.

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  14. Nirat Anop30 April 2014 at 03:37

    I completely agree, they were so awesome, one of the best bromances ever!

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  15. Justin Baptista30 April 2014 at 03:38

    No surprise there.

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  16. nunette30 April 2014 at 03:41

    Great series, I really wanted Season 2. Wanted more of Kennex and Dorian banter as well as what was going on over the wall. But we will never see that, because of Fox.Bad move.

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  17. Lissie_Bee30 April 2014 at 03:51

    I had hope, but I suppose I'm not surprised. I'm going to miss Karl Urban on my tv :(

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  18. maxands30 April 2014 at 03:51

    Well, that is sad. But it's just like Fringe, great stories, direction, actors, but just a few viewers.

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  19. Daniel Walsh30 April 2014 at 03:51

    I'm glad and not surprised. It was disappointing.

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  20. Emma30 April 2014 at 03:55

    Well that bloody well sucks

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  21. DngnRdr30 April 2014 at 04:01

    Almost Human was performing better than several shows getting renewed by Fox.... I guess production cost may have been a factor but IMO Fox are living down to the standard they set cancelling Firefly - stupid decisions!

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  22. gibbeynator30 April 2014 at 04:09

    Sad, but this was an easy thing to see coming after the finale felt more like a standalone episode than any sort of conclusion. I'd like to know why everyone was so sure this was getting renewed a week and a half ago.

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  23. magnutude30 April 2014 at 04:12

    booooooooooooooo...... this was such a great and potential filled show..... rip Kennex/Dorian bromance

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  24. start_wearing_purple30 April 2014 at 04:31

    Too bad. The show had great potential but it never really knew what direction it was going in. With a short season they had a great chance to quickly define the show with a single overall arc but nothing like that ever materialized. It was simply a mess as an average crime drama with a futuristic twist that was depending on the sci-fi angle alone to carry it. Very disappointing execution for the show.

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  25. DarthLocke430 April 2014 at 04:31

    So so mad! Why in the heck did they wait this long and why did they let the uk pick it up? Bumer!

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  26. Christopher DeBono30 April 2014 at 04:35

    So, a question to the shows fans. Did this end on a cliffhanger?
    I was considering marathoning this during the summer.

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  27. Cathy30 April 2014 at 04:38

    Oh, nooooo. I really liked the show....This sucks.

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  28. DarthLocke430 April 2014 at 04:38

    minus dvdr ratings it was preforming as good as the following and doing better than some other shows that got renewed. then the uk just picked it up! Plus whyman said that it would eventually move away from standalone, but it was going to be a while and some hoped that because of the episode order and confusion over back order that fox owed another season to fans

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  29. Victoria Llanos30 April 2014 at 04:42

    I'm really angry about this. Not only was this one one of my favourite new shows, but it really wasn't doing that bad with what Little promotion it got.

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  30. Victoria Llanos30 April 2014 at 04:43

    Nope, no cliffhanger. It was a really good, entertaining procedural. I'm very disappointed.

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  31. Ron30 April 2014 at 04:48

    it was expected it was a good show tho i watched it when i was bored.

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  32. Alii Joee30 April 2014 at 04:50

    Shame on you Fox... apparently she's okay with 1.4 or 1.2 but not with 1.9....

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  33. Ogechi Iheduru30 April 2014 at 04:56

    They let the UK pick it up? Who's doing it over there now?

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  34. MurderMondays30 April 2014 at 04:59

    They have to make up the money they lost from renewing Glee in advance. Fox just can't make good decisions.

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  35. Eduardo Fernandes30 April 2014 at 05:05

    I don't care about Almost Human, piece a garbage show, but Karl Urban deserves a better show.
    I'd like to see him in Game of Thrones as Doran Martel.

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  36. Midnight30 April 2014 at 05:18

    Doran Martell is supposed to be much older, at least well into his 50s. He's also frail, sickly, and wheelchair bound. He's cautious, politically-savvy, and bides his time. As much as I like Karl Urban, he's nothing like Doran.

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  37. Cathy30 April 2014 at 05:28

    That is very rude of you to come here on a thread dedicated to another show just to bash it.

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  38. CP30 April 2014 at 05:30

    Such an upset. I'm not a happy duck.

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  39. NiceGuyVan30 April 2014 at 05:33

    Ah hell....

    I actually know why, but still They could of changed for the better in season 2.

    Ah well. This is how I would imagine things would have played out.

    Being the type of show it was, fun to watch like Bones even tho it was episodic, just for that different setting factor former being in a lab, this being in the future. I suspect if it was not cancelled and kept its current plot routine. It would have been like The Mentalist where the Red John plot mainly happened in season finale and season premiere to select mid season episodes. Just like that I feel the Insyndicate plot would have played out.
    DRN androids Creator Dr. Nigel Vaughn is probably the Insyndicate leader, he wanting to get back at the high clash tech world for getting rid of the DRN's as the top androids.

    Kennex missed his chance so Stahl would of started to date that one chrome off screen, till mid season 2 or season 2 finale when she rather try a shot with Kennex and their growing connection? they hit it, then now couple mode low key, solve them episodic crimes then Take down Insydicate for the time being in season 3 finale, but some other form of big bad will come in season 4 possible the rise of the MX-43's takeover plan. As they have always been watching them and now know that they can actually do the job better at every thing and start attacking the city to take control. Due to this all MX's are removed from the unit and for season 4 its mainly the humans and Dorian/Kennex vs the MX's. During this time Rudy had been working with Some female engineer who previously worked at DRN company to work towards building new-DRN's. They do so by season 5 ep 1 and that would be enable them to counter the MX's strong power. Season 5 is mostly chill but then Insyndicate returns with some plan they fail and that's that. In the end Kennex and Stahl decide to settle down and travel, while cool Dorian is now a high ranking a Captain leading a team of fusion human and N-DRN's detectives to fight crimes.

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  40. phnxgrl30 April 2014 at 06:05

    So Fox strikes again! Too bad I liked this one.

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  41. phnxgrl30 April 2014 at 06:08

    What is Sky or Space showing it in the UK? If that is so then maybe we will be lucky and Canada will get it. With the internet you can see shows from all over.

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  42. start_wearing_purple30 April 2014 at 06:11

    Don't blame FOX for this one... bad directions screwed this show. No one involved really had any idea how this show would survive in the long run and thus it failed.

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  43. phnxgrl30 April 2014 at 06:11

    You should write this up as Fan Fiction. It sounds like a very promising arc.

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  44. ShatteredOne30 April 2014 at 06:13

    That really sucks. I thought the ratings stabilized and it earned a second season. Fox screwed it with premiering it later and messing with the schedule order.

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  45. Kevin30 April 2014 at 06:17

    Well this really sucks. Only show left that I care about on Fox is Sleepy Hollow which is pretty awesome for those who haven't seen it yet.

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  46. Peter J430 April 2014 at 06:35

    I'm so sorry for the fans. You're in my thoughts guys (and gals). :(

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  47. Ralph Hartman30 April 2014 at 06:45

    Well Dads ended with more viewers then both New Girl and The Mindy Project have right now so why would it be a bad idea to renew Dads?

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  48. Dylan James30 April 2014 at 06:48

    NOOOOOO! I Really Loved Almost Human.

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  49. Gambo8830 April 2014 at 07:00

    shop it maybe another network will pick it up

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  50. Caz7430 April 2014 at 07:03

    Thats bad. Loved the show. I think part of the problem is that the execs are so quick to cancel shows nowadays. It appears as if more shows are only getting one series and then that's it. I for one am very wary now of starting to watch a series as I am sure it will probably get cancelled. There are so many other ways of watching now that I prefer to wait until I know it doesn't end on a cliffhanger or if it does it has got a second series before I watch it. been burned too many times by beiing left hanging forever after the premature cancellation of a show.

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  51. Nic30 April 2014 at 07:16

    Sorry to hear it but for me it was kinda disappointing anyway had hoped more from a show like that especialy in the first season not sad to see it go

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  52. MurderMondays30 April 2014 at 07:21

    Because they shouldn't have renewed those shows either.

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  53. Ralph Hartman30 April 2014 at 07:26

    Why Dads has been the best and funniest comedy Fox has this season?

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  54. İlker Duhan30 April 2014 at 07:46

    Interesting, i am sure it was better than most of the tv series but Si-Fi cost should be very high according to simple Drama series may be

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  55. Zoidberg30 April 2014 at 08:26

    This is very true, look at shows like Dexter, Breaking Bad, hell Game of Thrones, all gained a lot of viewers after the first season, even after the second.

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  56. Lou30 April 2014 at 08:31

    Feel bad for the fans but really this show was a huge disappointment for me. I was really looking forward to it because of J. H. Wyman's involvement - Fringe being one of my favourite shows and because of the cast.

    Yet it feel flat, way too procedural which wouldn't be a problem if it wasn't so bland at times. Michael Ealy was by far the best thing about it but he wasn't enough sadly.

    And I really do think airing the episodes out of order made a difference, one moment Kennex and Dorian had a tense relationship the next episode they were suddenly best buddies. It was off putting.

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  57. pixip30 April 2014 at 09:23

    Dammit, the show had so much potential I really thought there was a small chance it might make it!!

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  58. danielocka30 April 2014 at 09:29

    :(

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  59. Sahmeran30 April 2014 at 09:33

    I liked the show but to be honest, it focused stand-alone episodes so much rather than focusing on the "main story". The main story couldn't be expanded and the show couldn't use its potential and cast effectively. I can't blame FOX.

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  60. lily30 April 2014 at 09:53

    I really liked this show, why are my shows always get cancelled? ((((

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  61. Rob F30 April 2014 at 10:08

    Damn it FOX. You keep shows that score low 1's and get rid of a solid performer at the high 1's.

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  62. Kevin30 April 2014 at 10:15

    Fox cancel's a good show? I'm shocked! SHOCKED I say!

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  63. Anna Paolinelli30 April 2014 at 10:53

    Got to keep slots open for more Gordon Ramsey shows.

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  64. Darkthunder30 April 2014 at 11:04

    Can't say I'm surprised. FOX has a crappy track-record when it comes to keeping Sci-Fi shows on the air; Firefly, Alcatraz, Terra Nova, and now Almost Human. Sad to see it go, loved the chemistry between Karl Urban and Michael Ealy's characters.

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  65. Mia30 April 2014 at 11:48

    well that blows. I liked this show even though it had its ups and downs

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  66. Ainé30 April 2014 at 11:54

    Jack Bauer is "alive" again, and they just cancelled Almost Human, well they are the ones who cancelled FIREFLY too. Who understand FOX!!!!!!!!!!.

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  67. Lammy30 April 2014 at 11:54

    WAAAAAAAAAHH!!! :'(

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  68. HornOrSilk30 April 2014 at 12:30

    Now Karl Urban can go and be a Sith Lord in Star Wars....

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  69. HornOrSilk30 April 2014 at 12:32

    Gordon Ramsey's newest show is about shows on Fox about to be cancelled.... or should be.. he should appear in every new Fox show just in case...

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  70. laura334130 April 2014 at 12:41

    Knew it was a long shot,but i was really hoping for another season.... We still have some questions that need answers dammit! :(

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  71. Kissan Capers30 April 2014 at 12:54

    I feel for Minka Kelly, one of the shows stars.

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  72. Luana Arturi30 April 2014 at 13:14

    I knew it was gonna happen, but it's still a bummer.

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  73. Pablo Troncoso30 April 2014 at 13:15

    Its ratings are laughable too, you know? With New Girl, Brooklyn Nine-Nine and The Mindy Project returning, plus many comedies returning, why bring into the mix another rating loser?
    I didn't like Dads (watched the pilot, not my cup of tea), but my comment is not quality related, it's rating related

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  74. Virginia Fontana30 April 2014 at 13:44

    I will miss this show a lot!

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  75. DarthLocke430 April 2014 at 14:18

    http://www.tvwise.co.uk/2014/04/watch-sets-uk-premiere-date-almost-human/

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  76. gibbeynator30 April 2014 at 14:18

    Also, another show cancelled so DC can have ANOTHER Batman adaptation.

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  77. Kristin C.30 April 2014 at 15:41

    NOOOOOOOOO! What a shame, although I am not surprise. Fox isn't good with futuristic type shows. Why they waste their time putting them on air in the first place? I totally loved this show but... Don't let me down NBC!

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  78. Ralph Hartman30 April 2014 at 16:02

    I just think it should've been Dads instead of The Mindy Project that was renewed. I enjoyed Dads. I thought it was funny. Funniest new comedy of this crop of freshmen comedies in my opinion and I know a couple other people who thought the same.

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  79. DarqueMode30 April 2014 at 16:32

    It was one of the se series I was most intrigued with going into the season, but I fell out of love quickly as the episode order ruined any character development.


    I waited to watch more episodes until I could watch them in their proper order and it made little difference to me. The show was just lacking on so many fronts.Too procedural, too shallow etc

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  80. DarqueMode30 April 2014 at 16:34

    No surprise to me.


    I wanted to like the series since I like the creative team and many of the actors, but the show just never came together on any level.

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  81. calliebeckett30 April 2014 at 16:54

    Some may not want to hear this but:

    @TVMoJoe 3m
    High-level sources at Fox told me as recently as three weeks ago that Almost Human was very likely to come back. Wonder what changed...

    From neogaf::

    The answer is that Gotham (also a WB show), Red Band Society, and Empire all came back extremely strong.

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  82. calliebeckett30 April 2014 at 16:58

    Also:

    @Memles: Regarding #AlmostHuman: #Gotham is similar, and fresh start/franchise offer better growth/brand potential. Both would be redundant for Fox.

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  83. Arlothia30 April 2014 at 17:08

    Really disappointed about this. I really liked this show and it's actors. Michael Ealy and Karl Urban worked SOOOOO well together and were a lot of fun to watch. But I remember the article a while where Karl said that he wouldn't mind if this show was canceled so he wouldn't be away from his family as much as a US-based TV series made him. So I'm happy that he gets to spend more time with them. No matter how much I love the show and wished it was still on I have to put the happiness and wellbeing of the actors first, you know? 'Cause if they're not happy then it sort of detracts from the show knowing what's going on behind the scenes...

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  84. Kristin30 April 2014 at 17:23

    I like Michael Ealy but I just never got around to watching this show. I hope it ends strong and I can catch it online later.

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  85. Ashok030 April 2014 at 17:35

    It seems AH was mostly in contention with future 2014-2015 pilots like Gotham, Empire, and Red Band Society as opposed to existing programming.

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  86. Page 4830 April 2014 at 17:36

    "Too procedural, too shallow etc" - Yup, that about nails it.

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  87. Lou30 April 2014 at 17:39

    Agreed, in the end it was another Fox show that became my surprise genre show of the 2013/14 season and that was Sleepy Hollow.

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  88. Page 4830 April 2014 at 17:43

    Pretty much what you said, except for the part about procedural not being a problem if not for the blandness. Procedural was always going to be a problem for me.



    Overall, it was a serving of mildly futuristic eye candy, but lacked ambition in the story telling department.

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  89. Baff30 April 2014 at 17:43

    Yes, it regularly fell short, but I felt the potential was all there. They set up an interesting world, they had good leads, decent supporting characters. It just needed someone much better than Wyman to bring it all together.


    There was almost no on-going storyline, so after watching most episodes, we (the audience) felt unfulfilled because nothing had really changed. They kept the handful of important episodes in the right order though. The only real problem with airing it out of order was the kennex/dorian relationship. It also made the kennex/stahl relationship a little odd, but there was so little going on there, that I don't think it mattered much.


    Replace Wyman with a good writer and this show instantly would have been 10x better.

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  90. GreenColine30 April 2014 at 17:46

    Noooo so disappointed! I loved that show! I wanted more Karl Urban on TV and now it's over! Why don't you cancelled Glee already (sorry that show had a good run for 3 season but le'ts face it it's dead now!) and keep good Sci fi shows!!
    Well done Fox you did it again!

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  91. DarthLocke430 April 2014 at 18:21

    I def have a love-hate relationship with them. I like Sleepy Hollow and am excited for 24 to return (I mean when does that ever happen?!), but there are times where they seriously do things that I don't understand...I don't know why they would have waited this long for the announcement and considering the station is now changing format, I have a hard time buying that they couldn't squeeze another 13 episodes in somewhere, even if it meant pushing it to mid season. I wonder if Bad Robot will have anything to pitch to them after this and Alcatraz's failures, but I have to say that I'm glad that if Westworld gets past the Pilot commitment, it will be on HBO...I kind of wonder if Karl Urban's comments about TV shooting verses film shooting time hurt the chances some how?

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  92. DarthLocke430 April 2014 at 18:28

    ING Interview with J.H. Wyman from July:

    That’s a very good question, and we were just talking about that. Here’s the thing; it’s the age-old battle. The age-old battle is the networks want it to be standalones, and us guys want it to be mythology -- so that’s the problem. I don’t know if you remember, but I figured it out on [Fringe’s] “White Tulip.” For me, I thought it was the right balance. So yeah, we want that. We’re going to take everything that we learned from Fringe and bring it over to this and say, “Okay, we want to have a very compelling case of the week,” because these are really cool cases. Criminals in the future, murders aren’t the same. Yeah, sure, they murder -- the motivations are the same -- but how they solve it and how people are killing, it’s very, very interesting. So we have a chance to show some incredible cases that you’ve never seen before, but you also want to see the mythology. So we don’t want to short shrift either. We have a really rich, compelling mythology that we’re very proud of and that we can’t wait to roll out. But it’s going to have to take it’s time coming out and making it kind of “wow!”, you know what I mean?"

    http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/06/27/fringes-jh-wyman-on-re-teaming-with-jj-abrams-for-foxs-almost-human?page=2



    So as you can see from the get go Bad Robot's writers/producers were struggling with their mythology-serialized writing verses the network wanting more standalone episodes. (and if we had more I feel certain it would have begun to change...they had enough things set up IMO to really bring a more personal story forward) I also think you can blame FOX for allowing there to be confusion about how many episodes this was potentially suppose to be and the mildly (because it didn't have a huge impact with the story) attack them for the change in episode order. Strangely in the past month a UK Channel picked up the first season and then Karl Urban also pseudo complained about the filming time, because it took a toll on his personal life.

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  93. DarthLocke430 April 2014 at 18:35

    If you read my post above, I do site that interview from July. It explicitly says that the Mythology/serialization would come, but it was going to take a lot of time to roll it out.


    It had a lot of mythology presented, just indirect IMO. I think if it would have been renewed or gotten a back order we would of seen it begin to change. Wyman states that they basically were battling it out with FOX in terms of the story telling format.

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  94. DarthLocke430 April 2014 at 18:38

    Not Bad Robot's complete fault. Network wanted Stand alones, Bad Robot a mythology and serialization...

    http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/06/27/fringes-jh-wyman-on-re-teaming-with-jj-abrams-for-foxs-almost-human?page=2

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  95. DarthLocke430 April 2014 at 18:41

    I don't think Nigel was Insyndicate's leader simply because he looked like he never had been over the wall before. i think they need him for their robot army, but I think he's not a main figure head, as much as an important associate that happens to want to pay the Government back...

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  96. DarqueMode30 April 2014 at 19:11

    Just looked over it thanks.


    I don't think that was nearly the only problem though. I like a number of procedural shows and hybrid shows. If a show is done well, I can watch it no matter the format.


    Maybe it was network interference, maybe. The forced romance angle that went no where, the angry co-worker that seems to go nowhere.... I just rarely got into an episode after the pilot. I tried 3 times to watch the series and every time after watching 2 or 3 episodes I got bored of the series and was never able to finish. The characters were flat, the plots were flat.



    I just thought it was an incredibly mediocre show despite its potential. Potential means absolutely nothing to me if the other foundation elements are lacking like they were with Almost Human.

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  97. Anna Paolinelli30 April 2014 at 20:03

    Will Elizabeth Murdoch be producing?

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  98. Baff30 April 2014 at 20:15

    Signed, thanks.

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  99. Paxnos30 April 2014 at 20:47

    *Sigh* I would've liked Season 2. I wasn't that much of a big fan, but I liked the setting. I think the out-of-order-airing didn't help the show, since it made the relationship of Dorian and Kennex seem VERY inconsitent.

    I was also missing an overall arc. They teased us a little, and that was it. Guess that's what most networks (and viewers?!) want, but the show would've started to actually breathe by giving it a decent plot with sub-plots and so on.

    So, to sum it up, the show had its flaws and there were a few things I would've done different. But the potential was there and I think a 2nd season would've been a good decision.

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  100. The Little Author DK Zealand30 April 2014 at 21:25

    For real! Is it really official!?

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  101. DarkUFO30 April 2014 at 21:27

    Yep, as official as you'll get.

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  102. DarthLocke430 April 2014 at 22:58

    I disagree because there was more and more of set up with the introduction of XRN/Danica, Nigel, DRN's [false] memories, introduction to Chromes, droppings of Insyndicate (and themes of "timing"/being n'sync), and introduction to John's father and Internal Affairs.


    If you look at Fringe, it didn't get real interesting and more serialized until we got into the second half of the 22 episode first season. There were a lot of standalone/procedural-like episodes. But it's season 2 that stepped up the mythos and season 3 that became a real story telling masterpiece. It just needed a full season or second season. Seeds were definitely planted and it's themes were strong.

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  103. DarthLocke430 April 2014 at 23:12

    I agree it could of been executed better, but I think FRINGE didn't really go anywhere either until the second half of the first season and then from there it got better and better...


    But looking at Alcatraz, it had a much better mythos/mystery angel presented, but I think it just didn't get personalized enough for Rebecca Madsen. In the same respect I think that it didn't get personalized enough for John Kennex either, but the set up was there. There was a mythology presented, it just wasn't strung together yet.


    I also no LOST was pitched very differantly from the show it was and part of that was because they had been fighting with ABC with Alias, as again, they did not like the mythos/fringey Rambaldi stuff, which is why season 4 puts it on the back-burner a bit...

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  104. LG Stetser30 April 2014 at 23:13

    I also kind of get the impression from what i read, that they expect to get a back nine order of episodes. So the first thirteen, were the setup throwing out fishing lines, and the back nine would be more serialized, tying a lot of the previously setups together.

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  105. DarthLocke430 April 2014 at 23:17

    Interesting. Thank you for sharing. This makes some sense. I think they have an obligation with WB, right? So they just chose the better one?

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  106. DarthLocke430 April 2014 at 23:26

    There's a major discrepancy about that. Some reports claim that it was always intended to be 13 (like Sleepy Hallow/other limited series) and other reports (and what I thought to be true) stated that we were waiting on back order!

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  107. DarthLocke430 April 2014 at 23:33

    Seriously if there's not a 13 episode season 3 given to Revolution or a Hannibal season 3 renewal, I'm gonna...:P

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  108. DarqueMode30 April 2014 at 23:35

    I agree about Fringe getting better in Seasons 2 and 3, but I think Fringe drew me in far, far more in Season 1 than Almost human did. The characters grabbed me, the stories grabbed me and it all felt more fleshed out to me than Almost Human did.


    I will never support a show with potential without good foundation in the first season. Almost Human did not have that to me. Maybe it was 50% network interference, but the other 50% was poor writing, poor directing and poor world-building.


    That was another thing that bothered me a lot with the series now that I mention it... the AH futuristic world. Their future world and their sets felt "half-baked" to me. Like they had a full idea of what they wanted, but they did not have the money or time to really make the world complete. It added to the overall feeling of the show not being well done to me. I never had those feelings with LOST or Fringe or Alcatraz etc.


    Despite wanting to like the show (and loving some of the actors and creative team) I was left unfulfilled almost every episode. That was not about it being more procedural. It was about it being a poorly done procedural. If the networks forced the creative team to more procedural elements they should have just executed those elements to a much higher degree instead of later saying they were not allowed to have serialized elements. To me it is a 100% a cop out.

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  109. Baff30 April 2014 at 23:41

    I agree that plenty of the blame falls on FOX. At this time there is more genre competition on tv than there has ever been, by far! 75 genre shows in 2014! People need a reason to come back and watch that next episode. If nothing ever changes, why watch?


    Yes, they kept adding a little more to the mythos of the world each ep, but the relationships between the characters changed so little that FOX was able to air the episodes almost randomly and the general public wasn't aware of it other than maybe thinking that the acting seemed a bit uneven.


    It is very possible to have standalone episodes and some progression at the same time. These are not mutually exclusive.

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  110. DarqueMode30 April 2014 at 23:46

    That is so true!


    If a show can air episodes from the end of the season in the beginning and vice versa without it mattering the show is doing something completely wrong! Even in a procedural there can be character evolution and story growth. No, not can be- Should be!

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  111. TadloS1 May 2014 at 00:06

    Fuck you FOX... really...

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  112. DarthLocke41 May 2014 at 00:35

    Right, but FRINGE had 7 more episodes in it's first season and there is a discrepancy if AH was suppose to get more episodes or not...It's possible that there could have been bigger payoff should of a back order indeed been intended.


    And the interview I gave you was from July...so it wasn't them covering there bums after the fact, but more like they let fans know ahead of time that this was going to be the problem, but with an intent to fix it.


    I didn't have a problem with the sets/appearance, because I was reminded of Fringe so much with contrast between futuristic tech (especially the red universe) and the kind of average more current architecture, like average apartment buildings. I think if they would have gone too futuristic, they might of thought they might loose their contemporary message to the audience. But you can't help to feel what you feel. I agree it feels half baked, but I think it could of solidified if it just had a little bit more time to tie things together.

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  113. DarthLocke41 May 2014 at 00:38

    totally agree with that.

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  114. CP1 May 2014 at 01:52

    Syfy isn't going to pick it up. I'd be afraid of that channel picking it up. They're so cheap and have as much bad choices as Fox.

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  115. CP1 May 2014 at 01:55

    Fox was the reason they had too much stand-alones.

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  116. CP1 May 2014 at 01:57

    No cliffhanger, but no satisfying ending to the main plot either. At least John and Dorian were good.

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  117. DarthLocke41 May 2014 at 04:26

    They probably won't, but if it would occur I doubt that SYFY would produce it, as I'm sure Bad Robot and WB would continue to. I can't remember what project it is, but WB and SYFY are negotiating some series so this might not be that far removed.


    I think SYFY has been a failure in most recant years, but BSG and Caprica are proof that they can make good sci-fi. I enjoyed Helix too and think they're trying to get back to their better days.

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  118. DarthLocke41 May 2014 at 04:30

    Well I felt there was payoff with David Robert Jones/ZFT, Olivia's abilities, resolution with John Scott, an introduction to a parallel universe, and an intriguing build on the Observers and a pretty sweet cliffhanger.


    But I would agree that season 2 had much more meat!

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  119. Amanda Corbie1 May 2014 at 07:08

    So FOX has once again done a Firefly. UGH Seriously?! Why do they keep trying to do elaborate sci-fi If they can't handle it?!!!!

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  120. phnxgrl1 May 2014 at 08:13

    That site is still under construction. But hopefully it might give better indications later on this topic.

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  121. phnxgrl1 May 2014 at 08:28

    It is the UKTV site Watch Channel which premiere the first season on May 6th. There is no indication that a second season will be aired there.

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  122. phnxgrl1 May 2014 at 08:29

    Not really but it did end with lots of unanswered questions on how the society is closed off and what was going on on the other side of the Wall? Why was the Wall constructed in the first place?

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  123. Babar Suhail1 May 2014 at 11:13

    It ended months ago.

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  124. DarthLocke41 May 2014 at 14:06

    Yes. I never said there would be a second season, just saying how weird it is that the UK just picked it up (the first season) right before it gets canceled.

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  125. DarqueMode1 May 2014 at 15:42

    I feel sorry for the fans of the show, but,....
    I thought the show might be doomed from the start. Not many shows have that kind of behind-the scenes chaos before the season begins with showrunners exiting and survive. With that kind of chaos it can really affect the tone, fluidity and development of a show. And it appears to have done just that since so much of Almost Human felt half done.


    Yes it could have POSSIBLY developed into a deeper series with characters that were dynamic and stories that actually went somewhere, but that is NOT what the show was.


    For me personally, potential only matters so much when dealing with renewals or cancellations. Every year there is a number of new series with potential and it's a crap shoot as to what grabs the audience. When a show does not succeed on a number of levels I have a very difficult time defending it based on potential alone. Outside of potential there were no exceedingly positive traits with the series.


    Just my two cents I guess....

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  126. DarthLocke41 May 2014 at 19:47

    I agree that whenever that happens with switching out showrunners, reshoots, ect, it tends not be good.


    My only real argument was that we can see from the get go, that what the writers really wanted was not what the network wanted, but that at some point there was going to be an attempt to change it and that Joel Wyman didn't lie about the idea that it would take a lot of time for it to, as opposed to it going on this way, which IMO is evident from all of the setting up, dancing strongly around the same subject matter, and by creating indirect mythology. ( various androids and model comparisons, chromes, drugs, memory altering tech, holograms, astral projection of holograms, corruption, political groups verses terrorists, ect)


    I liked the characters and their personalities and themes about children/young adults being at the expense of this reality and it's technology, themes about diversity and physical differences between kinds of people verses ideals of human purpose and potentiality (Chromes, Broken Cops, Corrupt Officials, various kinds of Androids), and themes about searching for the truth verses having technology that changes memory and ultimately identity and the actual truth.

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  127. laura33411 May 2014 at 19:58

    They are definitely trying to get back to their better days.There was an article with in THR with a person that was just promoted to some positio.Sorry it was a few months ago when i read this so i don't remember his name or title of his position. He did say he wanted to make more shows like BSG and Defiance.

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  128. DarqueMode1 May 2014 at 20:08

    I get what you are saying, I just felt completely differently.


    Some of the abstract elements and themes could have evolved into something interesting, but the actual A-plots bored me weekly and I never got into the characters past a mild level of interest. Most felt like characters I had seen before only done better on the other shows.


    I guess when it comes to SciFi series I have a high standard (possibly higher standard) and if shows do not meet it I would rather watch non-genre shows that do meet my quality expectations.




    Well, sorry it is cancelled for you and the others.
    I'm more positive about the new shows replacing it honestly....
    Well, at least until I see them! XD

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  129. DarqueMode1 May 2014 at 20:37

    Good luck with those! XD

    I like Hannibal since it is different than most shows on TV but something I cannot put my finger on has never sat well with me. I've really gotten into it as much as many shows I watch.

    I think Hannibal has more than a 50% chance, but I have been waiting for Revolution to be cancelled since the pilot! XD

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  130. DarthLocke41 May 2014 at 21:06

    I'm a pretty avid book and film Hannibal fan and I find that Fuller hit the mark on what Thomas Harris was trying to say in the third character titled novel in terms of it being anthropomorphic, Gothic Horror romance, and an argument about if civility and art truly spiritually elevates, transforms, and separates us from beast or if those things are just a smoke screen for a more complicated and primal truth of survival of the fittest.


    Fuller IMO has just used SO much of the source material to his advantage in this unexplored time period. I never thought I could see Hannibal this way and a way in which I think TH intended or implied.


    I know Revolution isn't your cup of tea, but I think the second season is SO much better on many levels. The only thing that pains me is that it spent a little too much time spinning it's wheels at around mideseason, but the characters and serialization are so much richer than they were, that even a filler episode I find enjoyable.

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