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POLL : What did you think of Fringe - The Bullet That Saved the World?

27 Oct 2012

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87 comments:

  1. Ricky Terry27 October 2012 at 03:02

    I knew it was coming, and yet it killed me to see it play out. I was hoping I was wrong all the way until it happened.

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  2. [H] Always 8-9-527 October 2012 at 03:07

    They lost her again. Man this will turn Olivia drastically. I don't know what to feel because she was a really good character for the show and I was loving seeing her interacting with Olivia. I'll wait to see what they have cooked to us fans :)

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  3. CBarrows27 October 2012 at 03:07

    ...I don't think I've yelled at my tv like that in a long-time (probably since my excitement in seeing the Prison at the end of Season 2 of the Walking Dead).

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  4. emcphee3227 October 2012 at 03:08

    Tears won't stop falling down my face.

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  5. ashley craig27 October 2012 at 03:09

    uh no they cant just go and kill her im sorry that doesnt work

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  6. opinynated27 October 2012 at 03:09

    Man. It was an awesome show. Awesomely sad.

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  7. J27 October 2012 at 03:15

    I hate that they killed Etta but loved the episode (especially Walter saying (with a smile), "You just electrocuted me."

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  8. [H] Always 8-9-527 October 2012 at 03:16

    "There was a time when we solved Fringe cases," "Now I think it's time we created a few of our own."

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  9. Robert O'Donnell27 October 2012 at 03:16

    At first I thought they were going to amber her so that they could revive and save her later, but no. Shot dead and antimattered out of existence. There's no coming back from that.

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  10. chris68427 October 2012 at 03:20

    I can't vote awesome because it was so sad. :'(

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  11. Ricky Terry27 October 2012 at 03:23

    I was laughing so hard when he said that so straight, like it tickled or something.

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  12. Totallyaddicted00527 October 2012 at 03:28

    oh I know! It was well done though.

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  13. celine27 October 2012 at 03:29

    I hope they find a way to either travel through time or reset that story line because there is no way way peter and olivia can have an happy ending with dead especially not in that future.

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  14. Totallyaddicted00527 October 2012 at 03:32

    Amazing episode!! They HAVE to do time travel now oh my gosh! Peter and Olivia deserve to raise their daughter! They have to go back!! Save the future and go back and raise your daughter.

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  15. gossip201027 October 2012 at 03:48

    I was so scared that this would happen and it did !!! why did you have to kill her ?? She was an amazing character
    That's gonna be so hard for pete and olive =(
    This show is breaking my heart, but I still love it
    Hope that there'll be a way to go back so that they can be a family

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  16. ShatteredOne27 October 2012 at 04:15

    Ok after reading some guess from people about who would die I started to think they were definitely going that route in the episode and I was thinking, well she is the one I care the least about (not to say I didn't like Etta, but after 5 years of seeing everyone else I was attached to them more), so I thought I would handle her death fine. But damn it! I still got tears in my eyes, I don't cry too often in shows, but damn. Observers gotta die. Especially Widmark!


    On a lighter note, Broyles! Loved the reunion and finding out for sure that he's resistance and with our characters. Keep on keeping on, Fringe. Best sci-fi show out there!

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  17. So Contagious27 October 2012 at 04:35

    I am so torn. On the one hand, f#$* yeah! That's what I wanted from this season. Them using the fringe events like that was just so awesome. It went from action to family moments to funny to even better action to Broyles coming back to those last heart-breaking scenes. I mean, I don't think Etta could've gotten a much better death. Her goodbye with Peter and Olivia, showing Windmark all those moments from her past, and taking those Observers with her ... and I'm tearing up again.



    But on the other hand, I don't know how I feel about Etta dying. For one, it feels way too early, if it had to happen, even in a shortened season - we barely got to know her, and her death would've had more impact if we had a few more episodes to get to know her and watch her relationship with her parents and grandfather grow more. For two, while I'm sure I'm biased because I like her character, I'm not sure that killing her was the best idea period. The Fringe team just lost their

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  18. Mutsie27 October 2012 at 04:52

    "There is someone who wants to see you" ... Damn this scene made this though lady cry... Yes it did.... And so many memories when they entered Walter's hidden Treasure room.... ♥

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  19. Ricky Terry27 October 2012 at 04:54

    They have Broyles to guide them now as far as getting them hooked up with the resistance. Also The resistance was on the defence spinning their wheels so-to-speak without the OFT (Original Fringe Team) So now they are on the offensive. As sad as it was to lose Etta, and as sad as it pains me to say it, Now they can get to the ass kicking. She died a hero's death. Viva la revolucion!

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  20. Jenni Lou27 October 2012 at 05:11

    I was wondering why they didn't just make her a regular for the season....

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  21. Ricky Terry27 October 2012 at 05:33

    "Does anyone think that "The Dove" is Nina?"

    Oooh I like that theory!

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  22. So Contagious27 October 2012 at 05:40

    Fair point about Broyles. Now that I think about it, that's clearly why they reintroduced him when and how they did. As for the second part, that's exactly the problem I'm having. I worry that once Peter's obvious initial fury has passed, they'll pause in their ass-kicking to have emotional mourning time. I don't know for sure they will - mourning time is usual not extensive in the Fringe-verse, and it certainly doesn't seem to stop them from doing their work, so maybe this will be a way to motivate them to do more ass-kicking and world saving than ever. I don't know. But this is their daughter, after all. So will it speed things up or slow things down, post-Peter rampage? That's sort of what I'm asking. If it does speed things up, and it's definitely a possibility, then great. That definitely takes some of the sting out of losing the character. I guess I'm just not sure that's whats going to happen.

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  23. Ricky Terry27 October 2012 at 06:29

    I think they'll mourn first for as long as they can considering they are made now, and the trigger has been pulled on the revolution so-to-speak. then I think Peter will go all terminator on their asses.

    Over on FringBloggers, there is a theory stating up that is really cool if you think about it. Check this out.

    What if Etta had her mother's ability to cross over universes? This could be an explanation of why she vanished as a child in the park. The triage people said they didn't see a little girl. No one knew where she went. Peter went looking for her for several months, Olivia went to New York to fight with the early resistance. They then ambered themselves separately, Fast-Forward 20+ years, Etta is now firmly in the Resistance Broyles is secretly in it. Who organized the resistance? (Possibly September?) What if The Dove is actually Etta herself? What if she has been able to cross back and forth between Blue/Amber and Red all along? What if instead of dying just now she crossed over right before the anti-matter bomb went off, and she is now Over-there getting fixed up by the redverse nanobot tech that heals people quickly? The Glyph spelled out the word "Wound". What if she is a wounded dove able to fly across universes? She could be overthere right now, with a plan. Maybe she is working with September or the Inner Child.

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  24. TayaP727 October 2012 at 07:35

    After I finished watching this episode, I had to take a walk just to clear my thoughts and emotions. They killed it, every scene, every moment. Freaking amazing, fantastic episode.

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  25. Leliforever27 October 2012 at 08:33

    I can't post my thoughts yet-I'm still crying...

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  26. DarthLocke427 October 2012 at 08:34

    Good thing I still think Peter is "in the machine" (or connected to the machine) and that the amber time line = Bardo!

    Poor Etta, but I suspect we will see her character again before the end of the series, and not just in memorabilia or flashbacks.

    I think Olivia needs to hear the Beatle's Song: GOLDEN SLUMBERS/Cary That Weight!

    I love that Widmark was almost contorted about "love" and think it's the key to the Observers undoing. It goes alomh with the whole code name "Dove" thing...

    The Boy with the harmonica! -The idea was SO familiar and I have to think it could be a reference to Baz Luhrmanns "Australia" where the half Aboriginal boy, Nullah, plays "Somewhere Over The Rainbow" on the harmonica, as he is obsessed with The Wizard of Oz, thanks to hearing Lady Sarah sing it to him.

    Good to see Broyles again and to know we can still count on him. -But I have to say I wish they would quit leaving Astrid behind!

    Was SO cool that Walter made a room full of things from all the Fringe cases! (and I knew we would see his and Bell's viewing device again! -I think Walter is going to use it some point soon!)

    I think killing Etta was good thing to do (not because I'm not going to miss her). This way Olivia and Walter may have a real reason to do what ever it is they are going to do. It forces them to come to terms with themselves, and/or for Olivia to confront something that I think she had yet to.

    I will you guys with "Killroy" aka : Mr. Roboto!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LjkC3eT6LA

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  27. andy s27 October 2012 at 08:42

    Oh, don't cry. Olivia didn't. And besides, it didn't really happen ;)

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  28. andy s27 October 2012 at 08:44

    Average episode, some inconsistencies and convenient plotting. Fun, nonetheless, but nothing more than that. As is the case with all the episodes this season. I am also unsure I like Fringe being a resistance show. I think I would prefer it if they went to 26th century to try and stop observers from ever harming the world, or returning in time...think of the fringe possibilities then

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  29. DarthLocke427 October 2012 at 09:02

    We were right! And it was painful!

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  30. DarthLocke427 October 2012 at 09:05

    I don't know about that. In one beyond the Fringe comic they allude that the red universe(s) is an anti-matter universe...So I was wondering if every time these buildings disappear, if they get displaced in the red universe?!

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  31. grapes9h527 October 2012 at 09:25

    Talk about raising the stakes with a tragedy beyond belief. How will Peter and Olivia ever recover?

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  32. idleistic27 October 2012 at 09:40

    awesome but I can't help being sad. Olivia and Etta deserved to be.

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  33. DarqueMode27 October 2012 at 10:14

    Awesome episode.

    I liked Etta a lot, but honestly I will not miss her since it is a short season and since I care FAR MORE about the main 3 Fringe team members. Plus, with Etta dying I expect Peter to go into weaponized-mode which is probably my all-time favorite Peter.

    Also I think this will be the event that allows Olivia to actually do what needs to be done. They will not beat the Observers with compassion.

    Honestly, I am probably in the minority, but I'm almost glad Etta died. I enjoyed the connection to her parents and those touching scenes between them all, but I would rather have the final episodes be about the original Fringe team. Less Etta, more Broyles and Nina Sharp.... To me that is more than a fair trade since I always enjoy the Broyles scenes and I love the Nina scenes.

    Absolutely loved Walter having a hidden basement full of Fringe toys! It's the perfect arsenal to help the resistance against the Observers. Even if it does not come intopl ay again it was so fun in this episode!

    Great emotional scenes, great reunions, and great goodbyes.... This was a very full episode when it comes to character moments. The story was also action-filled and advanced seasonal arc nicely! If nothing else it gave everyone (including Olivia) a reason to loathe Widmark! XD

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  34. Nicolás Festa27 October 2012 at 10:44

    I knew they were going to kill Etta... I said it in an older post; that's why Georgina stayed as a Guest Star and why she wasn't in the recent Set Photos...
    But now is obvious that they are going to pull a Time Travel thing and that's just stupid... Like, Is that the best they can come up? I don't know, i don't think i would be happy if they do that... It seems like a "lazy ending"... And on the other hand, i would be pretty pissed of if they were introduced to their long-lost daughter for 4 days and then bang! Not a fan of that kind of twist...

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  35. gossip201027 October 2012 at 11:02

    I really like your theory, It would be an awesome twist
    Plus, we would see etta again (I want this so much, her death broke my heart), but I think that she's really dead and that the only way we could see her again is if we go back in time

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  36. Celine27 October 2012 at 13:05

    I enjoyed that episode and I might have cried a little when Etta dies but I'm slightly disappointed because I wanted to know what happened to her after she was separated from Peter and Olivia. She was 3 and yet she was able to remember where she lived and who her parents where meaning someone must have told her and from pictures in her apartment she was probably adopted or something but I guess we'll never know. I bet Walter's plans is not only to kill all the observers but also to go back in time or send the plans back in time to avoid every that has happened. It's not original but I dont think there is any other way if peter and olivia are supposed to have an happy ending.

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  37. nellymendezcolon27 October 2012 at 13:21

    .....OMG.......AWESOME...the observer make the same mistake japanese when attack pearl harbor WAKE UP THE BEAST.in this case..PARENTS VENGEANCE..they are..DEATH SCREW

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  38. Stupot81527 October 2012 at 13:51

    Etta's time was up. She was a nice idea while she lasted, but there's really no need to keep another character clinging on for the last 10 episodes. I'm surprised Astrid is still going to be honest.


    I loved the idea of the Fringe team bringing Fringe science into their plans, and Walter's little bunker of goodies, while desperately convenient for the writers, was a fun touch. Nice to see Broyles back in the mix, hopefully we'll get some Nina soon - maybe even a little cameo from Charlie (somehow).


    I do find my suspension of disbeleif being strained a fair bit by the way our team are able to simply shoot and suffocate (rather inhumanely) dozens of men as though it were a videogame. I mean I know they are the enemy and we're trying to save the world and stuff, but... that's a lot of kills... even Walter happily squirts that gas at the guard without batting an eyelid.

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  39. Chiara Bocci27 October 2012 at 14:15

    Great SAD episode.

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  40. overandback27 October 2012 at 14:37

    I agree that the gun fight became unrealistic. That part of the show has left me undecided on how to vote. It was great seeing the action picking up and sad that Etta died. We'll have to wait and see if it's the last of her or not. I hope future gun battles will be more realistic, other than that it was an excellent episode.

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  41. tsavonglah0827 October 2012 at 15:02

    If I remember correctly Broyles already told them, that "The Dove" was his code-name.

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  42. Lou27 October 2012 at 15:46

    The majority of us knew it was coming but it still really hurt. I like what Noel Murray wrote in the AV Club review this week that 'is the messy sentimentality of humankind a liability?'.

    Love has always been a central part of the show - it is the reason the entire mess happened in the first place, if it wasn't for Walter's love of Peter he would never have crossed over the way he did. Love is what keeps Olivia and Peter together despite everything and now their love of Etta is might be what spurs them on to take very drastic actions against the Observers.

    Love is something the majority of Observers can't even begin to comprehend apart from August (blast from the past) and quite possibly September who has a long history with the Bishop family.

    So I do wonder if it is something that will save the world or as Noel Murray said is it too much of a liability? Walter did crazy things in his grief for Blue Verse Peter and now Peter has lost his daughter will his actions help or hinder the future?

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  43. DarthLocke427 October 2012 at 16:00

    Or -Peter is still in the machine and the amber time line is an ETHEREAL plane of death. (Bardo) much like LOST, except that Peter can return from the plane and "use" it to change the fate of everyone in his corporeal time line. The comic Peter and the Machine explains that basically when Peter chose "balance" it was like choosing "death" for himself. Additionally Eastern Philosophy has been associated to him and Walter...Peter mentions the Tibetan Book of Dead in the begining of the series. TTBOD explains what "Bardo" is and why one experiences it....Frome Wiki:

    The Liberation Through Hearing During The Intermediate State (Standard Tibetan: bardo "liminality"; thodol as "liberation"), sometimes translated as Liberation Through Hearing or transliterated as Bardo Thodol, is a funerary text. It is often referred to in the West by the more casual title, Tibetan Book of the Dead, a name which draws a parallel with the ancient Egyptian Book of the Dead, another funerary text.

    The Tibetan text describes, and is intended to guide one through, the experiences that the consciousness has after death, during the interval between death and the next rebirth. This interval is known in Tibetan as the bardo. The text also includes chapters on the signs of death, and rituals to undertake when death is closing in, or has taken place. It is the most internationally famous and widespread work of Tibetan Nyingma literature.

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  44. DarthLocke427 October 2012 at 16:07

    The Observers, Like Olivia, need to find "love", "acceptance", and "procreation" in order to become 'better human beings'. Olivia didn't even cry. I think the key will be Olivia accepting herself and letting herself show her real emotions. To stop being "the soldier" and start being the nurturer.

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  45. laura334127 October 2012 at 16:43

    WHAT HAPPEN TO MY POST??????????


    SHIT!

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  46. Dor Fiderer27 October 2012 at 17:13

    She now has white hair, just like a dove :>

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  47. Dor Fiderer27 October 2012 at 17:25

    If Astrid was on the emotional scenes too, it was perfect. I hate it when the writers deprive her because she's not in the "top 3" main characters.

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  48. Ricky Terry27 October 2012 at 17:50

    I don't think that he said that, but it merits a rewatch to find out for sure now.

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  49. Ricky Terry27 October 2012 at 17:58

    Wow I am afraid to know what your idea of a spectacular episode is if you think this one was average!

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  50. DarthLocke427 October 2012 at 18:01

    :D

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  51. DarthLocke427 October 2012 at 18:03

    I'll have to look at the transcript. I know he tipped Etta off, but I wasn't sure if we got a conformation that it meant he was "Dove". -Granted, given his association with the Military, it does make sense, even though I had also thought of Nina...

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  52. Ricky Terry27 October 2012 at 18:12

    I hate when that happens. You do this long winded post, then forget to press post as twice. (Why do you have to hit it twice anyway) Then it's gone.

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  53. Ricky Terry27 October 2012 at 18:13

    Where is Astrid anyway? They had to vacate the lab, so WTF?

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  54. laura334127 October 2012 at 18:23

    Ma this is such a bummer! And to re writre everything all over afaig..maybe later,aww man!

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  55. tsavonglah0827 October 2012 at 18:31

    indeed, even got a higher version for this episode.

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  56. DarthLocke427 October 2012 at 19:36

    NO! I hate when that happens! :O

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  57. DarthLocke427 October 2012 at 19:37

    They have been leaving her behind a lot. It's kind of strange...hopefully she went somewhere important...

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  58. laura334127 October 2012 at 19:41

    I think we'll see Etta as as a child flashbacks,i doubt they are done with her as a whole.Probably next week if if Nina comes backs...

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  59. laura334127 October 2012 at 19:52

    One more time...i hate saying this but i'm glad it wasn;t Josh,Anna,Astrid, or my beloved Walter! The guilt i feel is terrible but they could have another,,,as i remember more that i had written i will include...

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  60. tsavonglah0827 October 2012 at 20:05

    How could you!! j/k :D

    Yeah will rewatch it in next few hours and then it really will hit me and I'll also be glad that it wasn't anyone from the main cast. Still ballsy move and I hoped that they could at least catch a break in this final season.

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  61. lichen264127 October 2012 at 20:34

    She was still at the lab. She was hiding in the vent with the laser so my guess is once the Loyalists left the lab she went to work at de-ambering the lab again.

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  62. lichen264127 October 2012 at 20:50

    That was an amazing episode. Broyles how we have missed you! That reunion was beautiful. I gotta say though I remember being horrified when the Fringe team was trying to save people from that gas. How Olivia risked her life to turn off that bomb with her mind (and Peter risked his because he couldn't leave her). So I NEVER thought I'd see the Fringe team using it as a weapon against other humans! If that's not an indication that times have changed i don't know what it is. On the other hand though it was really cool to see them go badass rogue like that. As for Etta...I saw it coming but I didn't see it coming so soon and I was really hoping I was wrong. How much more are they going to put Olivia and Peter through? At this point if they plan to give Olivia and Peter any kind of happy ending than they have to go back in time and stop the invasion right from the start or prevent it from ever happening. Because what is there to save anymore?

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  63. ShatteredOne27 October 2012 at 21:35

    I'm expecting a breakdown from Olivia at some point. She's always kind of bottled up her emotions and tried to remain "the soldier", but this is the 2nd time now she's lost her daughter and I suspect that will begin to tear down the emotional barrier she's built for herself.

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  64. laura334127 October 2012 at 22:48

    I think Astrid it going thru the tapes they found and putting them in order.At leaset that is what i'm thinking?

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  65. laura334127 October 2012 at 22:50

    I could cry!! Like Rick said a long post,aw man!

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  66. laura334127 October 2012 at 22:54

    I do believe Peter is still in the machine! some people feel its a cop out but i don't,it should end like that!

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  67. Krista McInturff27 October 2012 at 22:57

    geez fringe really doesnt want a happy ending! i am hoping for some time travel so they can raise etta.

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  68. Ricky Terry27 October 2012 at 23:38

    That's right I forgot that part already. Re-watch time.

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  69. laura334127 October 2012 at 23:46

    Brother,they need a break,pronto!

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  70. neon_ruby27 October 2012 at 23:53

    Aww man - Fringe is going to put me through the emotional wringer before it ends! An awesome episode - interesting how the team were using such a horrible Fringe event against other people . And Etta!! I didn't actually believe that they would kill Etta - I thought Broyles would die. So that ending was surprising and not at the same time. Poor Etta - only a brief time with her parents. And the Bishop family face more tragedy - Olivia and Peter lose their child again and Walter loses his granddaughter after losing his son twice over. I really didn't think they'd go there but it was a brave move and I can't wait to see how they deal with it.

    I have to say, as upsetting as Etta's death was, it was the reunion with Broyles that really had me tearing up. I'm so glad they didn't kill him! And that reunion with Olivia was perfect - just the way he said 'Agent Dunham' - you could feel that it had been years since he'd said that (and I felt slightly nostalgic for those days as well). And Anna Torv was lovely in that scene - you could see the affection in her face. Now I just want to see a Broyles/Astrid meeting as well.

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  71. omabin28 October 2012 at 00:55

    i never thought they would go there... they killed me with this episode. so sad. anna torv was brilliant in those scenes. man, i really am depressed. how are peter and olivia supposed to have the enough will power to save the freaking world after this? this being said... bravo fringe. i felt this season was somehow lacking but this episode more than made up for it

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  72. DarthLocke428 October 2012 at 01:23

    Thanks! Wasn't sure if they had left, but that makes sense!

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  73. DarthLocke428 October 2012 at 01:25

    Ya, you're right. Most likely the case! (I hope they don't come back...I had a bad feeling about Astrid in 5x03 when they left her in lab by herself...)

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  74. Ricky Terry28 October 2012 at 01:40

    Where can I find the transcripts? I'd love to go back and read them too.

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  75. Stupot81528 October 2012 at 10:40

    Intersting... but wouldn't that render s5 mostly pointless? Just as s6 of Lost was :/

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  76. DarthLocke428 October 2012 at 13:54

    It would be season 4 and 5 and no, this is not pointless. An EXPERIENCE is an Experience no what what we want to say about the physical or quantum mechanical state of any given reality or perception of reality.

    You basically just stated that all theologies or philosophies beliefs in any other kind of after life are pointless, which IMO then renders all reality pointless.

    Experiences is about learning. learning truths about ourselves via the world and others around us. Empirically all the choices we make have a potential to effect more than the chooser. We compromise on the sake of each other and the limitations of physical laws all the time! To experience any other alternate reality is another way to gain "knowledge" about self and/or universal truths.

    IMO this is less pointless than LOST (although I stress that I do not think Lost's flash sideways was not important, as it showed the characters and viewers the a glimpse into the characters up and coming time line which was made because of everything they have ever experienced before. What Kate Did = What Kate DOES continuously over many life times.)

    In this case the points would possibly be 1.Peter causes reciprocity. That what he experiences in the ethereal plane quantum mechanically (physically) may effect/change his corporeal. 2.The ethereal plane may give us a collection of truths about all of the incarnates of our current versions of these characters and express a need to come terms with what other versions may have done. (killed people/children in the name of progress--->creation of the Observers) 3. What he may experience "here" may be what the corporeal characters he left behind are experiencing and/or will be on the verge of experiencing. So if he returns he may be able to stop what ever bad thing that could be happening to them, because he knows where "they" went wrong because of what all experienced int he amber time line.

    IMO the point of all Bad Robot works comes down to who these people are, or who these people have ever been and can they in some way save themselves and change their fates in a fated/evolutionary universe(s).

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  77. DarkUFO28 October 2012 at 14:03

    Test, please ignore

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  78. Stupot81528 October 2012 at 14:13

    I guess I'm just more of a reality man myself. I don't have a problem with multiple realities, in fact I love them (I wouldn't like this show otherwise) but I prefer my realities to be 'real'. It means nothing to me as a viewer if the characters I am watching are dead.


    You said "You basically just stated that all theologies or philosophies beliefs in any other kind of after life are pointless, which IMO then renders all reality pointless." This is where we disagree. I do not beleive in any afterlife, so therefore any discussion of afterlife is pointless to me. All reality is not pointless to me, reality is the only thing that matters, because it's REAL.


    The idea of Peter being in the machine and experiencing the things you mention is not a bad idea, but it could be done in one episode, I don't want the final season of one of my favourite shows to be about the afterlife... again...

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  79. DarthLocke428 October 2012 at 15:03

    For the sake of understanding the theory, not to say it's true:


    The problem lies in that you take ethereal as non real, where a lot of philosophies don't. (Idealism for example). In theory an ethereal plane could have it's own set of quantum mechanics (like "dream logic") that are just different than the quantum mechanics we know to be true... Peter is experiencing this and he may "remember" experiencing it (making it apart of his identity, as memory is the key to "individualism", as we all can experience the same event(s), but we might not all feel the same way about it, or remember the same things from it!). It is "real" just a different kind of rea (the word Alternate means "different" from what you know to be true -which then implies it relies on COMPARISON), one that could happen to RELATE to "EVERYTHING that is and has ever gone on.

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  80. Stupot81528 October 2012 at 15:31

    That helps, thanks :-) I do find your theory interesting, but I would just prefer the ending to be more grounded in reality and science (albeit the Fringe variety), and I want the characters we end the show with not to be weird afterlife versions of themselves. I'm sure the writers know what they're doing, and whatever they choose to do I'm sure they'll do it well (Same with Lost, I didn't agree with the finale, but it was still the best peice of television that year).

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  81. RobertAriadne28 October 2012 at 15:55

    "Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry. But why on earth should that mean it isn't real?"

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  82. DarthLocke428 October 2012 at 16:44

    :D

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  83. DarthLocke428 October 2012 at 16:51

    Multiple Universe is a theory of science, but "Fringe" itself implies sudo-science and/or beliefs in para/metaphysical science (life beyond matter - Walter's "deja Vu---> "awareness" to accumulative existences in many realities), thus it leans towards the psychological aspect of physics, since it is human perception that is constantly trying to "define" reality and purpose through Theology, Mythology, Philosophy, Art, and Science. The under lying factor in human existence is the pursuit of existence itself.

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  84. ashley craig28 October 2012 at 19:26

    i dont believe they would put peter in the machine again because they have already done that chapter and they usally dont go back on things like that plus everyone would hate that so i doubt it

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  85. RobertAriadne28 October 2012 at 19:53

    ;)

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  86. DarthLocke428 October 2012 at 23:47

    First what I am saying is not that Peter goes in the machine again, but rather the idea that he never 'really' left the machine-his "essence" is still connected to it either physically (his body remains and he consciensly is experiencing the amber time line, or her kinetically is still connected to it (One of the Amber title sequence words is: "Bi Location" - to be in two places at once)


    Second "many" might hate it, but not everyone, as I am someone who would not hate it, specifically because it means the red and blue universes could BOTH co-exist together and that Henry and Henrietta could also both exist, as why is it the Observers right to deem anyone "bad" to the point of "time line removal" why would Peter and or Henry be considered worse than Walternate or William Bell?

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  87. Emaa1 November 2012 at 20:28

    it was awful episode why on earth they killed my favourate episode she was so good :S

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