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Once Upon a Time - Episode 1.20 - The Stranger - Synopsis

4 Apr 2012

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August takes Emma on a journey that will show her how to beat Regina and possibly attain custody of Henry; Regina tries to seduce David.

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162 comments:

  1. ljojojo4 April 2012 at 09:05

    NO!! Not David!! You leave him alone Regina!   

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  2. Salyiha4 April 2012 at 09:16

    Regina tries to seduce David? I hope the important part here is "TRIES"... because if he falls for this, even my last bit of nice feelings for him are gone... #IsWayTooInvestedInTheShow

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  3. Ieva Brown4 April 2012 at 09:20

     that would be the ultimate revenge/betrayal, Snow would never forgive him. Exactly what Regina wants, to destroy true love and break Snow's heart. Please David... DON'T DO IT!

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  4. Gary Bird4 April 2012 at 09:27

    Now that sounds interesting.

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  5. Zsazsa R4 April 2012 at 09:31

    I'll admit Regina seducing David is the ultimate f-- u to Mary Margaret... but it is also so very cliché. I'm not happy about that.

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  6. andy s4 April 2012 at 09:42

    Yes David, DO IT, Regina is hotter than MM!!!

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  7. Borednow4 April 2012 at 09:48

    This is an awesome development. Hopefully it DOES happen. It will make his eventual redemption far more awesome and worthwhile. 

    David is clearly set up to be "unlikeably" likeable guy who just does wrong decisions again and again. This is the next logical step.

    However IF he does that, the chances of him eventually plain outright dying in redemption become evne higher...

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  8. pinkphoenix19854 April 2012 at 10:16

    Hmm this is very interesting...

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  9. Elen4 April 2012 at 10:55

    I´m much more interested on August and Emma than on David and Regina. True Love is the strongest kind of magic, she won't win over true love.

    August and Emma on a journey, however, could be very interesting. 

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  10. Orla4 April 2012 at 11:07

    Holy Mother of......
    Argh! about the Regina and David part but August takes Emma on a journey? I'm hoping a magical one - to Wonderland - where Jefferson might be....
    So I'm guessing Emma is 100% believing by then.

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  11. Shaakira Abdul Samad4 April 2012 at 11:32

    Regina seduces David (Prince charming) nooooooo and finally Emma get a clue, yeah!

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  12. Hala4 April 2012 at 11:51

    NOT DAVID!!!!

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  13. Zsazsa R4 April 2012 at 11:52

    It would hurt MM for sure but I don't know if that would destroy true love. It's just sex (from the sound of it anyway)... unless they'll carry on an affair or something like that. Unless David remembers who he is AND sleeps with Regina, I wouldn't be too hard on him. He's been doing stupid stuff but he's so backwards in Storybrooke because he is cursed.

    Also, almost all the ladies but Jennifer Morrison get to kiss Josh Dallas on this show? I want to guest star so I can kiss him, too. :D

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  14. klutzy_girl4 April 2012 at 12:01

    Oh fuck no, Regina. Don't you fall for that, David! 

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  15. Courtney4 April 2012 at 12:01

    Wow, Emma attain custody of Henry? That would make me hate Emma forever. She's already so unlikable for even being in town illegally but seriously? Sometimes this show's obsession with biological parents being automatically better than any other types of parents is disturbing, especially now that Emma has brought Henry into her penchant for illegal activities.

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  16. bluebox4444 April 2012 at 12:08

    Regina and David? Oh, now that is CREEPY...

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  17. bluebox4444 April 2012 at 12:09

    I agree. I'm hoping he doesn't add yet ANOTHER incredibly stupid mistake to his long list. I really do not like David Nolan, though Prince Charming is cool.

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  18. Tufan Tim4 April 2012 at 12:18

    Absolutely hate how the show is treating the adoptive mother vs. biological mother issue. Emma has done nothing to prove to me that she is ready to be a mother. A real, full-time mother. Not just someone who picks Henry up to have some fun, allows him to break the rules and then returns him to his adoptive mother who has to be the one inflict consequences and deal with the tough part of being a parent. Heck, Emma just get Henry on board when she illegallly broke into the Mills mansion. How does this make her a fit parent? Yes, we know Evil Regina is the Evil Queen. But that does not automatically make Emma a good mother. It is so not enough to make me side with her. Not at all. If she gets custody, I'll have a hard time taking this show serious again.

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  19. klutzy_girl4 April 2012 at 12:20

     Can't judge yet! Regina may have done something that convinces Emma she should get custody of Henry.

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  20. Orla4 April 2012 at 12:22

    Yeah because Regina murdering someone is worse than what Emma does....

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  21. Courtney4 April 2012 at 12:22

    Me too. That she can't go a few episodes without breaking into someone's property or destroying it is disturbing.

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  22. Tufan Tim4 April 2012 at 12:22

    Pretty clichéd. It can only hurt both characters. People are already fed up with David's stupidity and Regina should be so much better than an soap opera villain (and this sounds like somthing straight out of a soap opera).

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  23. Borednow4 April 2012 at 12:33

    I am guessing it just leads to her believing. I have this little theory that she truly believes in finale and thats exactly what makes magic go back to ":land without magic". 

    as Henry would say "Because you believe it thats exactly what makes it true". 

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  24. Lissie_Bee4 April 2012 at 12:34

    I hope David has better sense than that... and if not, he's more of an idiot than I took him for.  Also, Emma possibly getting custody of Henry?  I wonder how that's going to be possible?

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  25. Courtney4 April 2012 at 12:41

    But they have no idea about that. Only we as the viewers do. So as long as Emma is the one that involves the kid in illegal activities...

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  26. Judy Smith4 April 2012 at 12:44

    Regina doesn't love Henry, she just loves the fact that she can keep him away from his true family.  Henry definitely doesn't love Regina, he thinks she is an evil queen and he is the one who ran away to find Emma, so that she could break the spell in the town and everyone would remember who they are.  He wants her there and for her to be with him.  Regina put this spell into place, killed the sheriff, kidnapped Katherine, and made her look dead, is holding others prisoners in a secret location.  How does any of this make her mother material.

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  27. Courtney4 April 2012 at 12:52

    Unless they make Emma a lot smarter in one episode I don't think she should have custody of a banana, much less a child.

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  28. laura33414 April 2012 at 12:55

     Regina what the fuck are you trying to do seducing David.Leave the guy alone and you know hes not into you,
    And well see about Emma?

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  29. laura33414 April 2012 at 12:57

    A banana that's a bit much no?

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  30. Tufan Tim4 April 2012 at 13:11

    Regina does love Henry. Lana Parrilla and a bunch of other people involved with creating the show have said so repeatedly. They have also made a point of showing that Regina always wanted to be a mother. Both in the fairytale world and in Storybrooke. I'm not sure what makes you think she adopted Henry for the pure pleasure of keeping him away from his biological family? Especially since a) she didn't rob this kid out of the arms a loving family. Emma, a very young, imprisoned single mother, made the conscious decision to give him up for closed adoption and Mr. Gold then arranged for Regina to adopt him. And b) Regina had no idea who Henry was and how he is related to Snow White at that point.
    And again: Regina breaking more laws than Emma does not automatically make Emma a good mother. I don't get the logic behind the idea that it's fine for Emma to break the rules and engage in illegal activity as long as she is not quite as bad as someone else. I'm not even defending Regina here. I just don't get how Regina being Regina automatically makes Emma a fit parent. It doesn't. Emma proves this almost every week. If knowledge of what both of them have been up to became public neither one of them would get custody of the kid.

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  31. laura33414 April 2012 at 13:17

    But how can you take this show seriously,its a fairy tail story Putting that aside for a second what has Regina done for Henry? He has a house,he goes to school i'm sure the best of everything,but he doesn't have a loving mother.Regina is all over the place being mayor,and nasty.I see Regina and Emma both with pros and cons,but i would feel safer if Emma had Henry,we know she isn't nasty or evil. And Emma could learn to be a fine parent there certainly a whole lot worse out there.

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  32. Orla4 April 2012 at 13:22

    So a mother murdering someone is okay as long as her child doesn't know is better than involving him in illegal stuff(which is really for good).
    While Emma isn't the smartest at times she loves Henry and wants the best for him. I don't like the way people hate on her - she wouldn't be a terrible mother. I'm not saying that Regina doesn't love him - I think she clearly does and is a pretty good mother. I actually hate Henry's attitude towards her - it's horrible,especially if he has read the part in the book where Cora killed Daniel.
    I really don't know who he'd be better off with - both of them have positives and negatives. 

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  33. Orla4 April 2012 at 13:27

    Regina has done a lot of awful things but it's very clear that she does love Henry. I don't think he loves her though.

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  34. Tufan Tim4 April 2012 at 13:27

    Being
    strict doesn’t equal being nasty in my book. And strict is the worst we’ve
    seen Regina around Henry. And again: My point is not that Regina is a perfect mother. She clearly is not.
    But Regina being Regina doesn’t make Emma a fit parent by default. She
    has a whole damn lot of growing up to do herself before I’d consider her a fit mother.
    And that’s why, at this point, I really don’t see why I should root for her to
    get custody. She is so not ready for that. And even a fantasy show can't make me ignore this. 

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  35. Zsazsa R4 April 2012 at 13:38

    Considering Kirstin spoiled in her latest spoilers that Regina does sleep with someone, I guess it is safe to say it will happen. lol As much as I find it amusing (I mean, Regina is the Evil Queen after all so she will score with this) it's just the whole thing that I find cliché - EQ goes after Snow's Charming. The show should know better - even if it also sounds like a most logical step for someone with revenge. I loved that they dropped the whole "fairest of them all" thing and went with something else. I feel this could be a let down. Although then again the actors are good on the show, guess we'll have to wait and see.

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  36. Borednow4 April 2012 at 13:47

    I think Regina WANTS TO love Henry. She just does not know how to even show that, considering how her life went. 

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  37. laura33414 April 2012 at 13:50

    I didn't mean Regins is being nasty with Henry,i meant that even when she not the EQ Regina is nasty to all.I know she loves Henry,even though she has no time for him,even when it is Regina and Henry together she never shows him love.And as far as Emma's concerned she is not ready either,but i think he would be better off with her,with guidance.Not everyone is born to be a parent,so Emma could take parenting classes, There is so much out there for parenting,if she was to get Henry.
    How did this even start? I don't remember it on the episode?

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  38. Zsazsa R4 April 2012 at 13:51

    Well this perfectly sums up how I think about this, too. Considering Regina's history with her own mother anyway, (so far) she's a remarkably better parent than Cora - even if she's strict. I just think this is all the wrong reasons. Clearly Emma hates Regina (and vice versa). Emma should get Henry if she wants to be his mother,a nd so far I haven't seen much of her wanting 2 be a full time parent. Sure, she stayed in town cause she wants to make sure her son is good, but if I were Emma, I would focus my time on my kid, not on everything else in this town with a little playtime with Henry. Make Emma responsible, then I will see the show's point.

    Unless Regina does something heinous to Henry, I will remain sceptical. It's just sad that even as the Evil Queen Regina does seem more responsible than Emma as a parent. I yet have to see Regina try to influence Henry in a bad way. If the audience didn't know that she was the Evil Queen, I bet she would be viewed differently as a mother, too. And this is nothing against Emma, this is just an observation about the show.

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  39. David Fischer4 April 2012 at 13:59

    Say what you will about Regina's parenting, but at least with her Henry doesn't end up trapped in a mine,  riding along in a cop car, searching crime scenes, or any such nonsense.

    Regina loves Henry, that much is clear. I hate how this show basically says all foster/adoptive parents are evil unfit parents with no souls. Evil or not, Regina is in all likelihood a better mother. I think I'll be rooting for Regina on this one. How sad is it that I root for the villains in this show because the heroes are too damn stupid?

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  40. Justine Kubica4 April 2012 at 14:00

    Now I'm VERY angry! LEAVE DAVID ALONE!!!

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  41. Bonnie Still4 April 2012 at 14:07

    Yes, she also loved her father Henry, and we saw what happened there. I don't doubt that she loves Henry II in her own way, but I think at this point she's incapable of real love. Plus, most of the time, she only seems to use him in the battle that she has with Emma. 

    This isn't to say that Emma hasn't made a lot of mistakes either and would automatically be better at it at Regina just because she's the biological mom, but at least with Henry II back with her, I wouldn't be worried about her possibly sacrificing Henry at some point during the show like I am now if Regina keeps custody of him. Not that I think they would actually kill Henry II off, but I could see the show coming full circle later on where Regina would think about sacrificing Henry II in someway like she sacrificed Henry I, and either this time she doesn't and sacrifices herself, or she does, but something protects Henry II from her being able to do so.

    Further, since the Cinderella and Archie episodes, I think that there have been seeds that maybe Henry II's custody would become an issue somewhere down the line. In the Cinderella episode, I got the impression that the way Mr. Gold obtained his babies wasn't exactly legal, so there's definitely the possibility that there's some kind of loophole for Emma to exploit later on. Then, with the Archie episode, it definitely seemed like Regina might do something that everyone would find out about that might have Emma challenging her for custody. With Katherine turning out to be alive, this could finally be what opens up more people's eyes about the Mayor if they found out that she had Dr. Whale lie for her and planted evidence and what not to frame an innocent schoolteacher. 

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  42. Oldandnewfirm4 April 2012 at 14:09

    Emma is the sole law enforcement officer in a town whose population probably numbers in the thousands. That's a major responsibility, and one she's been handling decently considering that she has little to no formal training as a police officer. To me, if she neglected her duties to do nothing but play with Henry every second of the day, THAT would be the irresponsible choice. 

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  43. lsbloom4 April 2012 at 14:27

    Um...she is still the parent right? Emma wasn't the mom when Henry went down the well or escaped to Boston. Regina has no control over her son and he is so distrustful of her that he thinks she's an evil queen out to kill people and sees manipulative plots in everything she does. I don't think that's good parenting. I mean most kids don't think their parents are inherently evil and out to destroy an entire town. Something in their relationship made it all plausible for Henry. 

    I wouldn't posit that the show think adoptive/step parents are evil so much as it is a leftover from the fairytale world from which it is derived. Several natural parents have been evil or weak or ineffectual as well. 

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  44. lsbloom4 April 2012 at 14:29

    I think luckily Henry (II?) doesn't need that much parenting. If he did, he would be in trouble. 

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  45. Zsazsa R4 April 2012 at 14:29

    That's what I'm saying. I can't blame Emma, she is a good person so her taking on the role of sheriff is good, but it's definitely a big repsonsibility that's keeping her away from Henry too. 

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  46. lsbloom4 April 2012 at 14:32

    How is she in town illegally? Isn't Storybrooke in Maine? And Emma presumably an American citizen. So she come and go wherever she wants in the US legally?

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  47. Zsazsa R4 April 2012 at 14:32

    Good point there. Even with the Mad Hatter I thought it was ironic how happy his daughter seemed in Storybrooke and I thought, oh so Regina's evil doing was that Grace is having a good family - even if they are not her real parents? Sure I felt for Jefferson but still, weird implications there.

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  48. lsbloom4 April 2012 at 14:34

    I love Charming, but if they make David any dumber I'm going to be really annoyed. Seriously, he can't get seduced by Regina. Some part of Charming and loyalty and love have to carry through.

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  49. Jan van Es4 April 2012 at 14:46

    DON'T give in, David!!

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  50. Angelique4 April 2012 at 14:58

    I'm much more eager to see August and Emma lol

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  51. C P4 April 2012 at 15:09

    I'm holding onto hope it's not David because of finale spoilers earlier please, please

    Cause that would be stupid and it would be the first time I've ever been truly disappointed with the show. Keep the epic-ness writers. *glares*

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  52. C P4 April 2012 at 15:11

    Hah yeah I'm too invested too. 

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  53. C P4 April 2012 at 15:13

    Yeah evil Queen sedeuces men in town to prevent happily ever afters *Cue soapy music*

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  54. C P4 April 2012 at 15:14

    *Bangs head*

    You really want destruction don't you?

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  55. C P4 April 2012 at 15:16

    Yeah what's the journey? :D I still like August a lot.

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  56. C P4 April 2012 at 15:19

    Ah to me it's not just sex. Memory or not memory he mustn't!

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  57. Borednow4 April 2012 at 16:01

    Destruction brings entertainment. 

    Watching Charming and Snow try to patch things up after that happens is far more entertaining than just watch them patched up. :)

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  58. Borednow4 April 2012 at 16:02

    I am guessing Gold might not have gotten Henry in entirely legal way. :)

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  59. Borednow4 April 2012 at 16:03

    David and Mary reuniting and solving the problems is far more entertaining than them just doing that.

    So if the whole Regina stuff causes a lot of angst, the reunion pay off by that very idea would be a lot more stronger :) Basic principles of writing.

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  60. Elsa Coelho4 April 2012 at 16:06

    According to E! Online Regina has sex with someone. so if Regina tries to seduce David, is with David that Regina has sex. And this crap of TRUELOVE becomes bizarre and magic SNOW / CHARMING die for me. And Once Upon a Time is done and die for me too.  
    I understand that David being cursed and thought being married to Kathryn,and even not  loving his fake wife, he tried not to hurt her as Mary Margaret. However, it is very different after he is no longer with Kathryn and he loved Mary Margaret, and still have sex with Regina. It's to much for me or someone that loves someone. 
    Besides being really disgusting, TRUE LOVE can not resist to something like this.
    Too many things to forgive because of a curse, a lot of excuses and lack of originality. A true Soap Opera...I was too depressed with these spoilers. I was unwilling to see any of the remaining episodes. A terrible disappointment...

    TRUE LOVE? Think not... producers and writers dont dare to talk about TRUE LOVE, after that!
    ugh

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  61. lsbloom4 April 2012 at 16:09

    Isn't Graham making a reappearance?

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  62. Courtney4 April 2012 at 16:26

    Bananas are soft! She could really hurt that thing. No one likes a mushy banana.

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  63. Courtney4 April 2012 at 16:31

    She agreed to a closed adoption. Being around Henry against the wishes of his mother is pushing the bounds of legality

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  64. Courtney4 April 2012 at 16:38

    Decently? Really? She let a waitress working for her for half a day handle evidence in a murder then never visited the scene until prompted by a writer, whom she also brought to the scene. She broke into the mayor's house then lied and tampered with evidence in order to gain herself a search warrant. She broke into City Hall, illegally planted a bug and stole documents (which, yeah, made her look bad because she couldn't tell the difference between playground and a house) but still. And those are the only real things she's done as Sheriff.


    Their writing for Emma is just so horrible and inconsistent.

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  65. Courtney4 April 2012 at 16:40

    I've ended up rooting for the villains too because the heroes are so stupid. I just want a hero that isn't actually written as a literal moron, I don't think that is too much to ask.

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  66. Orla4 April 2012 at 16:46

    The Huntsman is in a flashback to FTL - I doubt Graham will - he's dead and gone.

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  67. Tufan Tim4 April 2012 at 16:47

    See, I disagree that Regina never shows him love. It's Henry who pulls away every time she attempts to hug him and kiss him, its Henry who questions her motives every time she is caring and wants to do something nice for him. And he has his reasons for that of course. We know he is right - she is the Evil Queen. But being the Evil Queen doesn't mean that she doesn't love him like a mother loves her child. No can force him to love her back, but I don't think there's any doubt about Regina's feelings for Henry and how she does the best she can to express her love for him even though he keeps pushing her away again and again.
    And I agree that Emma could learn and could improve. But why can't she start working on herself a bit before she starts a costudy war? It's the lack of self awareness that annoys me in Emma's case. Let her at least be aware that she needs to change and that she can't go on breaking into other people's houses, making deals with shady figures like Mr. Gold and bending the law if she wants to be a full-time mother to him. Emma's somewhat lucky that Henry is a very mature 10 year old. She'd have a lot more trouble with a younger kid, one that would need the "soothe every fever, endure every tantrum" kind of parenting Regina has done in the last ten years.
    Demanding to spend more time with Henry and take on more responsibilty would be one thing, but this custody war thing completely boggles my mind.

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  68. Mary Terrell4 April 2012 at 16:52

    Emma is In town illegally? Really? Where did you get that? 

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  69. Elsa Coelho4 April 2012 at 16:58

    CREEPY and disgusting...ugh

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  70. Oldandnewfirm4 April 2012 at 17:00

    Which ties back into my original comment: Emma isn't a trained law enforcement officer. I'm not the surprised by her failure to adhere to standard police procedure any more than I'm surprised by Storybrooke's questionable legal system. Judging Emma-- really, judging this show-- by real world standards is guaranteed to be an exercise in frustration and is ultimately pointless.

    Taking the nature of the show, the town, and the character into account, I maintain that Emma has done a decent job with what she's been given to work with. Imagine what things would've been like if Sydney, who had no experience whatsoever and serves mainly as an extension of Regina, had been elected to the position of sheriff. 

    I agree that the writing for Emma for has been lacking. Having said that, we've also got to consider that prior to Storybrooke, Emma's primary concern was looking out for number one. Now that she's starting to form attachments to people and invest in their fate, it may be that her emotions have clouded the judgment she showed early on in the series. Now that Regina's true nature has been exposed, I'm hoping that Emma will realize that Regina is an enemy best defeated by staying objective, and that Emma will return to the smart, capable woman she was in the pilot.

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  71. Mary Terrell4 April 2012 at 17:05

    There were problems between Henry and Regina long before Henry found Emma and brought her to Storybrooke. We don't know what those problems were yet, but he was in therapy long before Mary Margaret gave him the book of fairy tales. 

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  72. lsbloom4 April 2012 at 17:07

    I thought the spoiler was just that she was going to sleep with someone...that doesn't necessarily mean present day or storybrooke world does it? Just saying,  it doesn't have to be David.

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  73. laura33414 April 2012 at 17:08

    Ha your right about that lol......

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  74. lsbloom4 April 2012 at 17:16

    Closed adoptions in the US are very hard to enforce and Henry sought out her, which usually changes the game. Plus, it's not like there's a restraining order built in. 

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  75. C P4 April 2012 at 17:36

    There are other ways. Plus, I feel it would be OOC of David (out of character) to have a one night stand, with Regina no less-especially if next episode Mary would tell him Regina set her up (I would assume Mary would since she got free and would want to explain how). 

    Even though David is lacking memories, confused, etc. at his core he still is James. 

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  76. Orla4 April 2012 at 17:41

    I assumed it meant Storybrooke and we already know she was sleeping with Graham. I just hope it's not David!

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  77. Bruce_F4 April 2012 at 17:45

    Is Regina really sad and desperate enough to make a play for David?  Who am I kidding?  Of course she is.

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  78. Bruce_F4 April 2012 at 17:47

     It would be great if David laughs in her face when Regina tries to make a move.

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  79. C P4 April 2012 at 17:49

    And must we not forget Regina forced Archie to tell Henry quickly (instead of going by therapist procedure) that the stories weren't real which led Henry to get angry and go into the mine was it? in episode 5. 

    Regina is being selfish with Henry. She wants him, and probably does love him in a way, but it's selfishly. And she uses him to get to Emma. She doesn't care how he feels about her doing the things she does. 

    And Henry is right about her being the Evil Queen so I think he has the right not to like her along with how she never listens to him. Like Laura said, she gives him a house, education, but her care isn't unconditional. 

    And Emma would at least have her heart in the right place and she has other people around to help her watch out for Henry. She's old enough to raise him.

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  80. C P4 April 2012 at 17:53

    Good point. 

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  81. C P4 April 2012 at 17:54

    That wouldn't be the least bit surprising. 

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  82. Krista McInturff4 April 2012 at 17:56

    we can only hope that the writers make the right choice and have david turn her down.  otherwise i dont know how i feel.

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  83. C P4 April 2012 at 18:03

    It was more about Jefferson's suffering than his daughter's. She told him she was happy with what they had so long as he stayed (I'm sure Jefferson was happy too) but Jefferson wanted more for his daughter (everyone wants the best for their kid and he didn't believe his love was enough) so he left to do that job for the Queen so he could make money. Then he got back stabbed by Regina and was left behind in Wonderland.

    In the "real" world Jefferson has all the money he'd ever need and a nice house, but his daughter isn't with him and doesn't remember him. She has family and is happy, but he is the one alone now. It's basically a flip of fairytale land.

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  84. C P4 April 2012 at 18:05

    I like that theory. :D

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  85. C P4 April 2012 at 18:06

    Like I said on another post. That's OOC in my opinion. 

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  86. C P4 April 2012 at 18:08

    lol

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  87. Courtney4 April 2012 at 18:26

    Kristin is notorious for just reading the same press releases we do and posting them as spoilers or embellishing them based on her guesses.

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  88. klutzy_girl4 April 2012 at 18:40

     Yes please!

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  89. Borednow4 April 2012 at 18:41

    True Love has nothing to do with roadblocks. As implied in the first episode "its something one has to fight for".

    While quite soapy, the idea of "one of part of romantic pairing sleeping with someone else" is as old as fiction on television.

    It all depends on how it happens. For all we know MM does not want anything to do with David next episode, or something like that. For all we know Regina might just imply it happened, or for all we know she might take advantage of drunk David. 

    It happens all the time in the love stories. Show has already injected a lot of realism into classic fairytales, so I would not be surprised if that happens. 

    Its the ultimate "eff you" to Snow from Regina, targeted directly at their love.  HOW they might get over such a problem, is quite a fascinating storyline possibility.

    And flawed hard relationship is always more fascinating to watch "than "perfect ones.

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  90. klutzy_girl4 April 2012 at 18:41

     She probably wants to get some more revenge on Snow since her "Pin a murder on Mary" plan didn't work. Apparently, the next logical step is to have sex with her stepdaughter's husband.

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  91. Borednow4 April 2012 at 18:43

    Its desperate move sure but you got to admit its the smartest and most vicious thing she can do to hurt snow white.

    Snow took away her true love in Regina's mind, so Regina targets Snow's true love in the most destructive way possible.

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  92. laura33414 April 2012 at 18:44

    Yes of course she is!

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  93. Bruce_F4 April 2012 at 18:48

     Heh.  Let's call this what it is.  Regina is trying to screw her son-in-law.  :)

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  94. klutzy_girl4 April 2012 at 19:15

    LOL, I had a much different word than "screw" in my head, but yes, it is. (And technically, step son-in-law. God, the entire Charming family is screwed up in so many different ways.)

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  95. bluebox4444 April 2012 at 19:17

    It would take a lot to make OUAT die for me, but I will be a very unhappy camper if that happens.

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  96. bluebox4444 April 2012 at 19:20

    However, it's POSSIBLE that if David does give in, it won't be voluntary. I think his weird "blackouts" from a few episodes back were caused by her - maybe she has some way of controlling people's minds. Mr. Gold sort of implied that in his conversation with her at the beginning of the last episode.

    That wouldn't make it any less creepy, though.

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  97. C P4 April 2012 at 19:23

    No kidding. 

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  98. Orla4 April 2012 at 19:36

    I'm interested to see what they do with custody over Henry in the end because it's not just black and white. No matter what either Regina or Emma will get hurt and will lose him. Most likely he will end up with Emma but unless they go and make Regina have no chance of redeeming herself (which seems unlikely) it will be bitter sweet. 

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  99. Dan Kempner4 April 2012 at 19:50

    Nah, he won't do it. After everything they've been through.. He will probably go with it, and stop at the last moment.

    Also, August's involvement (plus the title), added with set photos that show the primary fairy-tale story only confirms my theory regarding his identity. 

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  100. David Fischer4 April 2012 at 20:00

    If the writers ever bothered to actually show us these problems I'd be grateful. All they've ever shown us is Regina being strict and Henry being a brat.

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  101. Borednow4 April 2012 at 20:03

    So Regina, Emma's step-grandmother, killed Emma's grand-father and then made Emma's mother's life a living hell, framing her, so in the end she could sleep with Emma's father....

    we need to go deeper.

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  102. Orla4 April 2012 at 20:05

    My God they're family is weird! 

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  103. Bruce_F4 April 2012 at 20:13

     I'm glad I'm not the only one who has an eye-roll reserved for Kristin and her so-called "spoiler" column.

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  104. Bruce_F4 April 2012 at 20:33

    You're opening a big can of worms if you want to start citing Emma's criminal activities as evidence of her unfit parentage.

    A few unlawful entries and some illegally obtained evidence doesn't hold a candle to conspiracy, blackmail, framing someone for murder, trespassing, bugging a police station, murder, and (if you want to get nitpicky) kidnapping and taking hostage the populace of an entire town.

    Emma isn't automatically a better parent because she's the biological mother.  It's Regina's laundry list of felonies (including murder) that makes Emma better.

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  105. lsbloom4 April 2012 at 21:11

    I agree there is a long line of true love roadblocks, but sleeping with a mortal enemy is one of those lines that just isn't crossed. Lots of fans won't forgive that. Even if in the story MM does. You have to keep the audience and the end game in mind. We have to want MM with David in the end. Otherwise their plight is no longer interesting. 

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  106. Klista4 April 2012 at 21:25

    A lot of people are also forgetting that we are talking about a woman who had willingly sacrificed the heart of the person that she loved most for to enact this curse. That alone makes me think that Henry needs to get out of that house, and I have felt this way since the moment we were shown how far she is willing to go for revenge. Sure, she'd cared for Henry all over these years, and she does seem to love him as much as she is capable, but that same love didn't save her father. This was a man who had loved her unconditionally. Who was willing to do anything for Regina. It would be foolish to assume that she wouldn't make that decision again if she thought it honestly help her gain her revenge against Snow. If it ever came down to it, I seriously don't think Henry would stand a chance.

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  107. Borednow4 April 2012 at 21:26

    Agreed. Its just sex. Fandom is overreacting...again.

    Its far more interesting to see Snow/Charming try to get over this roadblock. 

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  108. Borednow4 April 2012 at 21:29

    But you see, that excuse does NOT work.

    For David, Regina is just another woman in town. He has no idea of her past or her actual involvement in everything. 

    if he has a redemption arc after this its all great and actually very interesting to see how Snow and Charming will deal with that as its the ultimate "trial"(if we exclude death, because that's the trial one can't win) of their love, with Regina targeting their love itself.

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  109. klutzy_girl4 April 2012 at 21:31

    Yes! And as much as she loves him, Regina isn't above hurting Henry to get to Emma. (Like the newspaper article when she ran for Sheriff, when she had Emma say he was "crazy" in earshot of him, etc.)

    I just don't think she should be raising him, tbh. 

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  110. klutzy_girl4 April 2012 at 21:34

    Plus, Regina - Emma's step-grandmother, is raising Emma's son. Kathryn is kinda technically Emma's stepmother if you look at it that way.

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  111. Diana4 April 2012 at 22:06

    Another girl in town???
    Regina want put Mary Margaret in jail....Sorry for the bluntness ... but if David wants to reconcile with Mary Margaret, if he really loves her, why jump into Regina's underwear. Where is the magic of true Love?
    Where is the originality of writers? The curse is just sex, betrayal and bed?This ruins everything for me. Sad!I thought that 'Once Upon a Time' would be different from other shows.I forgot that the current storylines, always end up in someone bitching. In this case David. 
    I would love that the producers read our reviews here and how it will affect us fans.I do not know if I will continue to see the series from here. It is too disgusting and repulsive.
     What a pity, since it is a TV-SHOW of excellent actors and performances. 

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  112. Diana4 April 2012 at 22:13

    Borednow, stop defending the case of Regina have sex with David, because this is annoying ... seems to me that you adore a good series with bitching.
    And it begins to be sick.True love has nothing to do with bitching. If David has sex with Regina, even loving MaryMargaret , There is  NO TRUE LOVE 

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  113. klutzy_girl4 April 2012 at 22:17

     There's true love in the Fairy Tale World. That's why true love's kiss works.

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  114. lsbloom4 April 2012 at 22:37

    I'm not talking about rationalizing it in Storybrooke. I'm talking about rationalizing it for the audience. And we know who Regina is. Television doesn't exist within itself, it is mediated by an audience and in this case by an audience that has more information that the characters in play.  

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  115. Lissie_Bee4 April 2012 at 22:37

    Haha that wouldn't surprise me at all.. and who knows?  Knowing Gold/Rumpel, he could have done it on purpose knowing it would give him something to hang over Regina's head later on.

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  116. Borednow4 April 2012 at 22:50

    What is True Love? Its Love. It does not mean that magically everything just works out for it.
     
    The main theme through the show has been about fighting for it and the show has consistently presented "True Love" as this chaotic force in opposition to Regina's metaphorical representation of "Order". 

    Snow and Charming love each other, but that does not automatically mean that they will suddenly get through everything without roadblocks and won't make wrong decisions. 

    Its actually psychologically very usual situation of such things as sexual interaction with someone else, during the relationship downfalls. 

    Charming and Snow sure went through a lot, but Mary Margaret and David DO NOT know that, nor remember that. For them, they are just two people who fell in love, fell into a marital affair and it all ended with a court and messy stuff in their lives.  And when we last time left them, MM wanted nothing to do with David. 

    True Love is OVERCOMING things. It does not mean that those involved won't make bad decisions. it means that they will have to overcome and redeem themselves for what they did wrong.


    And excuse me, but i'd rather have writers NOT pay attention to fanbase's rage and coercion. Shows tend to go downhill that way FAST (Example: Supernatural).

    Those writers have yet to do something "bad" in terms of writing and I am confident that they will handle this situation really well too. 

    Such plot has a lot of fascinating drama potential and I can't wai to see how Snow and Charming overcome that.

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  117. Borednow4 April 2012 at 22:56

    First of all I do not take personal attacks very well.
    Second of all the show is not made by mormons. Snow and Charming might have, but Mary Margaret and David have no real obligations to each other. David somehow being involved in such a situation is not surprising, not to mention that we do not even know HOW it all is handled within the show. 

    Third of all, NOONE is trying to excuse what Regina is trying to do. ITs a low-blow towards snow white, with Regina targeting Snow's true love, since Snow, in Regina's mind, took away hers.

    Finally, True Love does not mean that those involves suddenly stop making mistakes or start to engage in celibacy. True Love is about OVERCOMING those mistakes and such plot development has a lot of drama potential and I can't wait to see how Snow and Charming will overcome that. :)

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  118. Borednow4 April 2012 at 23:02

    Let's not forget that "the entire town" actually holds ENTIRE WORLD. 

    She did not just take hostage an entire town. She took hostage a few millions of beings.

    Also, while we are at it, lets add rape(Graham/Huntsman) to Regina's list of illegal activities and gods know what else.

    The show is certainly NOT about "favoring biological parents". Its about family, connected by bonds or not.  We have seen A LOT of horrible parents in this show, including Regina's own mother. 

    Regina might WANT to love Henry, but it does not excuse what she essentially is and what she has done. 

    Without some SERIOUS redemption, Regina does not have any real right to have Henry love her as mother. Call it karma or whatever...

    When it comes to present, Regina has always put her own interests and goals above Henry, while Emma did exact the opposite. THAT is what makes Emma a better parent.

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  119. ecrc Rabit4 April 2012 at 23:44

    Borednow...please...

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  120. ecrc Rabit4 April 2012 at 23:51

    BorednowEach person is free to form an opinion.I also dont agree with Regina and David have sex.In addition a series to keep going on TV needs audience and appeal to that audience. And it seems to me that most people doesnt agree with Regina and David have sex.
    And if your idea of ​​True Love is this, then I'd rather kill myself than live a true love like this. 

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  121. Oldandnewfirm5 April 2012 at 00:12

    I'd venture at least one of those problems would be the fact that Henry could form no meaningful relationships with anyone else in town because he, unlike them, aged and retained his memories of the past. I'd bet money that's what lands him in therapy in the first place: rather than being honest with Henry when he grew old enough to question the town's numerous oddities, she threw him in Dr. Hopper's lap and demanded that Hopper "cure" him of his delusions. And since Henry knew he wasn't crazy-- he's got eyes after all, and it's not hard to see that you're the only kid in your school who ever grows up or changes grades-- that meant his mother was gaslighting him.

    I can think of few things that would turn a parent/child relationship sour faster than finding out that your parent would rather convince you that you have psychological problems than tell you the truth about something. Add to that the fact that he'd have no one else to confide in, and you're looking at a frustrated, lonely child living with a mother he can't trust, and whose love for him is questionable based on her actions.

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  122. Borednow5 April 2012 at 00:37

    And I agree. NO one should find Regina and David having sex as "something alright". It is bad. Thats why Regina does it. She's a villain.

    However, what I disagree with is "it being a wrong decision in terms of writing". If handled well(and these writers have not given me a reason to doubt them) this has a huge potential fo a Snow/Charming plotline development and seeing how they get over this roadblock is at least for me, fascinating.

    And well yeah. True Love is not something that is just handed to them. it has been emphasized again and again that True Love "is something you have to fight for, try to hold on to". Its not something that just enforces itself. Its not something that prevails just cause. Its something that prevails because those who have it hold on to it and overcome all obstacles for it. Thats what is emphasized again and again in this show. They both have to fight for it. 


    No one is saying that what Regina and David do(or not do) is "alright".


    Charming and Snow are obviously not going anywhere form the show, so I am excited for all the angst and entertainment the pairing can deliver, as, obviously, once the pairing gets stagnant, the show will either end or will kill of one of them. 

    The way I see it, such situation is the ultimate test to them - can Regina's actions like that break them up or will their love prevail over it? thats what is exciting in this situation. How they handle this move of Regina and how that whole angst develops the pairing of Snow and Charming and how they overcome this obstacle in their road of true love.

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  123. Sam Higgins5 April 2012 at 01:15

    "Regina tries to seduce David"
    LOL I don't know why that's so funny to me.
    And here is my OUAT blog: http://onceuponafanblog.blogspot.com/

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  124. lsbloom5 April 2012 at 01:45

    I'm not sure why I'm trying, but here goes. You are missing the point. Love shouldn't prevail over that. It's not the ultimate test, it's a point of no return. If David crosses that line, he doesn't deserve his happily ever after with MM. I'm going to try to connect it to another story point to see if that helps, if Snow had killed the EQ she would have turned evil, no amends for that, no fighting past it for true love. David sleeping with Regina is the same thing. No coming back, he can't fight back from that big of a character misstep, there is no redemption, he loses his shot at true love. The audience starts hoping Snow finds love with someone else, someone worthy. 

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  125. fotreya5 April 2012 at 02:54

    Reading twitter, tumblr, forums...NO ONE is happy with Regina/David plot (Evil Regals, Snowing fans, Charmers...). Just the fact that Regina "tries" is awful (and if they sleep together then........). Why writers/producers/ABC show that spoiler? I don't understand, they have to rise our hype, with that they are dropping the hype. Some people don't wanna watch the epi. I don't understand nothing. Although I really believe they are gonna have sex, just Regina trying to seduce him is cheesy.

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  126. fotreya5 April 2012 at 03:05

    If David and Regina kiss, or sleep together or....I WILL STOP WATCHING THE SHOW. Sorry, but writers are not gonna f*** me. This is a family show, right? WHAT THE HELL ARE THEY DOING? My bet: Next affair, Mary and Ruby make out session. Ohhh, it's the curse¡¡¡ the curse¡¡¡¡ Mary killing Emma....the curse, the curse¡¡¡¡ O_o

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  127. Liana Medeiros5 April 2012 at 03:42

    The problem with Once upon a time heros is that they are either stupid (Emma) or they became stupid after the curse (David and Mary Margareth). As Charming and Snow they are amazing, but when we see them in Storybroke they are both pathetic. Apparently they being so unlikable in Storybroke is because of the curse, but still, what the explanation for Emma?

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  128. Liana Medeiros5 April 2012 at 03:51

     I think there is "good" kind of angst, and cheap angst. David sleeping with Regina, even if it happens because the curse "forces him to", it is cheap drama. Not to mention it did happen before with Graham. He only slept with Regina because she "controlled" him since Fairy Tale Land.
    When they did with Graham, the only reason it was forgiven by viewers was because he was controlled by her, and he was killed right after. His tragic death, not to mention the fact that he did break up with Regina made him instantly forgiven.

    David is another matter. He is already being hated by most fandom because of his weakness towards Kathryn and Mary Margareth. At some point, there has to be a line under how far they would go with this character. What is the next step? Is he going to murder someone at Regina's orders because he just can't stop himself? Where it becomes too much?

    I would say that having the romantic hero sleeping with the villain always happens in melodramas. It is, in fact, the most boring trick in the book.

    Honestly, it is disappointing, and I don't only mean about David. It am disappointed at Regina. I expected more from her. What will be her next step? A fake pregnancy? :rolls eyes:

    (sarcasm on)How EVIL is she! (sarcasm off)

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  129. Liana Medeiros5 April 2012 at 03:53

    Exactly. If the audience stops caring about the main romantic couple because they can't stand one of them, well, it is over. The audience, ultimately, HAS to care.

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  130. Liana Medeiros5 April 2012 at 04:14

    Before, when I replied, I was talking merely as someone who watches the show, and understands how viewers would see David and Regina sleeping together after all the recent David's "screw-ups" towards Mary Margareth.

    But let's forget Regina and who she is for a moment. Let's talk about two people supposed in love, and a guy who is supposed try to win back a girl after implying to her he was going to leave his wife, while still making love to his wife AND telling his wife he wanted to make the relationship work. Oh, and let's not forget that this guy pretty much let it clear, to the woman he supposed is in love with, that he believed she was a murderer. So, in that context, we have this guy claiming he is desperately in love with this woman, and he is trying to woe her. So, what does he do? He sleeps with someone else while trying to go back to that girl.

    Yeah, sure, this all make this guy really swell, isn't it? I would run away from this kind of "true love" screaming. I still find it hard to believe that Mary Margareth has such a low self esteem in order to accept every crap this guy throws at her, but that would really be ice on the cake. I would never accept this guy on a million years. He just doesn't deserve it.

    That is why I am against it. It has nothing to do with Regina, or the supposed true love between Snow White and Charming. Charming was likable and honorable, while David acts as if he couldn't care less about Mary Margareth and walks all over her. I have no doubt that Charming loves Snow White, but Charming's love for Snow White won't make me forget what poor excuse of a man David is. The point is they are making me hate him in Storybroke. It got to the point that I saw the pictures of them kissing in the finale and was like "seriously, Mary Margareth? You are that desperate that you are taking this crap back?"

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  131. C P5 April 2012 at 04:25

    That's how I feel. If they have true love, David wont sleep with Regina. If he does, what's the point of the whole thing? It would ruin the love. When you love someone you don't go sleeping with the person hurting them or even a random person. 

    I don't see how having this happen would be good for the show. This is not Desperate housewives. Enough of David getting into trouble. 

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  132. C P5 April 2012 at 04:30

    Yeap, about worthiness. A cheater is not worthy of true love. 

    Charming would fight to get back Mary, not sleep with the next woman to seduce him (and push Mary even farther away). I want to see Charming finally coming out in David because that is who he truly is. 

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  133. fotreya5 April 2012 at 04:39

     If David sleeps with Regina I don't care if Charming comes out. I have defended David because he is cursed and because I think he hasnt done anything soooo bad.
    But sleeping with Mary enemy is too much for me.
    Writers, you are so stupid

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  134. fotreya5 April 2012 at 04:42

     I disagree. David has not do anythinf so wrong. If he sleeps with Regina yes, he is the worst. But until now, what he has done is perfectly explain it with the curse.
    And blame the writers, not David.

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  135. fotreya5 April 2012 at 04:44

     Yeah.
    The difference is we are not talking about another ust couple.
    We are talking about SNow White and Prince, iconic love story.
    It's not the same. Writers can't do what they do with another shipperism.
    THEY CANT

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  136. C P5 April 2012 at 04:44

    That's what I'm saying. 

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  137. fotreya5 April 2012 at 04:46

     Blame the writers, not the characters.
    I liked David' storyline (although It could be better, yes, but I don't find the fake-marriage so bad, it's coherent with the curse), but having sex with Regina is the worst plot imaginable.
    Remember, this show is about fairy tales, they are Snow and Charming, not Dan and Blair or Damon and Elena..

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  138. C P5 April 2012 at 04:47

    Yeah, um if this is supposed to be a family show eh they're very close to over stepping the border. They need to step back. 

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  139. fotreya5 April 2012 at 04:51

     This¡
    My only explanation: Writers don't want more season, they are gonna kill the show

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  140. Courtney5 April 2012 at 11:44

    Except when Emma puts her vendetta against Regina ahead of Henry.

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  141. Courtney5 April 2012 at 11:48

    If you're going to use those things against Regina then you'd also need to use that Emma flat out lied to Henry about his father, which will only hurt him in the long run, and abused her relationship with him to break into Regina's house and falsify evidence.

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  142. Courtney5 April 2012 at 11:50

    I'm so disappointed in the writing for Emma. She's supposed to be immune to the curse and be 'street smart' having grown up too fast in a cruel system, yet she acts more like a child than Henry does.

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  143. Steve5 April 2012 at 11:56

    I think people are jumping to conclusions. Kristin from e!online is not always very reliable source. I watch a lot of shows and she's notorious for just reading the same spoilers fans read. She only rephrases them and adds her own speculation. Her sentence about Regina having sex with someone contains no information about when it's supposed to happen. There's one more episode coming up prior to "The Stranger". Might just be that this supposed sex scene takes place in 1.19. We also have no information about whether it takes place in the Enchanted Forest (Evil Queen flashback) or in Storybrooke with Mayor Regina. There's so many unanswered questions. I don't get why people are freaking out as if they know exactly what's gonna happen. Calm down, wait and see.

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  144. Victoria Killay5 April 2012 at 14:13

    Regina killing her own father... Emma lying about Henry's father... Yeah, pretty the same thing.

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  145. lsbloom5 April 2012 at 14:44

    She tore down his castle. She knew that it was important to Henry and important to Henry and Emma so she destroyed it.

    Because that's what the Evil Queen does, use any power she can get to rip away anyone else's happiness. Her patterns of behavior haven't changed in Storybrooke she's the same as she always was. The only difference is how she tries to cover her tracks. But, there is no reason to think that there is some line between strict and evil that she won't/didn't cross with Henry. He's scared of her. Probably because the castle wasn't the first thing she took away, it's just the only one we've seen. 

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  146. Borednow5 April 2012 at 19:02

    And yet it happens all the time in the world and sometimes people manage to get over that and  live happily ever after.

    I find it hard to believe that somehow someone has that clear-cut definition of good and evil.

    Everyone has a darkside. There's always redemption from it. 

    David sleeping with someone else is nothing "omg horribly irreversible", especially if at that point in time MM and him are "done". Its certainly something  that calls for redemption.

    EVERYONE can have redemption as long as they seek it out. Even Regina if she sought that, is NOT beyond some form of redemption that requires her to pay for what she did.

    Good and evil is not some switch. Its two sides of the same coin.

    Overall I'd say this whole fandom outrage smells awfully of reverse slut-shaming.  

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  147. Borednow5 April 2012 at 19:05

    This is certainly not "A family show"

    Writers and producers have went out of the way to say that just because its fairytales it does not mean its for children. We had hearts ripped out, people getting beheaded and eaten, etc. Disney has allowed the writing staff to do anything they want with the premise.

    And you have something against same gender relationships? Because, you know, writers have already stated that some of fairytales will be made into same-gender relationships, possibly even in the next season.

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  148. kyle fong5 April 2012 at 20:16

    I am OVER Prince Charming. Bring on more Rumpel and Mad Hatter please!!

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  149. David Fischer5 April 2012 at 20:55

    People are really overreacting about this whole David/Regina thing. 

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  150. glasswingbutrfly6 April 2012 at 09:00

    Good grief! What on earth did Emma ever do to you? Is your favorite character Cora or something? Yeah Emma has made mistakes and it's early in the story for her to have custody, but she has a good heart and she loves Henry! She has been threatened by the queen since she got into town. The town is run by a dirty mayor who has her talons in everything. You've gotta be smart and think in somewhat questionable ways to try to get ahead. The town/world of storybrooke isn't normal so different rules apply. She's not killing people for her own good or sleeping with people to get ahead, or manipulating townsfolk to get what she wants, she's simply trying to get the truth! For goodness sake's she saved the queen from the fire for crying out loud! Went down the mine shaft to save Henry! Trying to help Mary Margaret be set free because she was framed. Emma doesn't steal hearts and hide them in other people's jewelry boxes, or use a skeleton key to plant evidence in vents.. She's a bounty hunter! She's gotta be a little sneaky and clever to catch people. I love her character, and as the show goes on I'm sure she is going to grow up and learn to right her wrongs. I think she's doing a damn good job for someone who's been alone and fending for herself her whole life, geez, give a girl a break... You don't fault a caterpillar for not being a butterfly, good things come to those who wait!!

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  151. glasswingbutrfly6 April 2012 at 09:32

    I agree! We still have yet to see the episode.. Just because it says she tries to seduce David doesn't make her successful. True Love doesn't necessarily mean you put up with roadblocks and obstacles just because they show up. If you do truly love someone, you will have their best interests at heart and you'll avoid hurting them to your own detriment if need be. Falling easily into someone else's bed is absolute weakness and not a very understandable one, in my opinion. If David does sleep with Regina, he's just as guilty as she is for destroying true love. Life and love have their own challenges, but you don't just go with it, or become a doormat because someone says they love you, because if they really did love you, they would fight to keep you by 'resisting' any temptation...  Anyway I'm all for Emma and August! I can't wait to see what happens on their journey and to see Emma start to believe a littler more. Great Show!!!! :D

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  152. Courtney6 April 2012 at 15:03

    Yes. It's a family show. Just one that portrays rape, murder, violence, lying, cheating, stealing, kidnapping, coercion and slavery as okay as long as you're the good guys.

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  153. Courtney6 April 2012 at 15:04

    It's seriously not a family show. There's some really disturbing content. Even more if you actually think about what the show is implying.

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  154. lsbloom6 April 2012 at 21:21

    The original fairytales are pretty disturbing, and we read those to our kids regularly. Luckily most of these are based off of the Disney versions. But even those deal with adult themes, but that is one way kids learn about tough issues.

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  155. klutzy_girl6 April 2012 at 21:39

    Regina does the exact same thing, though.

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  156. klutzy_girl6 April 2012 at 21:42

    There's a theory floating around that Emma might have been raped and that's how she got pregnant. Not sure if I believe it, but would you really want to tell your ten year old son the truth if that is what really happened?

    And let's look at the long list of Regina's crimes - Rape, murder, attempted murder, kidnapping, and other things I can't remember right now.

    Emma's crimes: Breaking and entering. "Using" her son to do so. And lying to Henry about his father.

    I don't trust Regina with Henry, especially since she does crap like that.

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  157. April7 April 2012 at 23:41

    Um Henry stole a credit card before he ever met Emma so I don't think she's really dragging him into illegal activity. Also, how is she in town illegally? She moved to a town and got a job there...don't think there are any special laws against it just because it happens to be a cursed town.

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  158. April7 April 2012 at 23:43

    And in this case biological is better because adopted mom is a psycho, non-loving, happiness killing evil witch.

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  159. April7 April 2012 at 23:45

    There aren't laws saying you can't live in the same town as a child you gave up for adoption. Regina doesn't have a restraining order against her. Henry found her and pushed the issue of a relationship. It wasn't all Emma.

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  160. CP8 April 2014 at 03:09

    I like that theory. :D

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  161. CP8 April 2014 at 05:32

    Hah yeah I'm too invested too. 

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  162. CP8 April 2014 at 05:32

    There are other ways of destruction.

    Plus, I feel it would be OOC of David (out of character) to have a one night stand, with Regina no less-especially if next episode Mary would tell him Regina set her up (I would assume Mary would since she got free and would want to explain how). 

    Even though David is lacking memories, confused, etc. at his core he still is James. And he never came across to me as someone who does something like this.

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