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The Vampire Diaries - Episode 4.12 - A View To A Kill - Australian Promo

25 Jan 2013

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24 comments:

  1. Kate Stoll25 January 2013 at 14:53

    Who the hell is the one with dagger? :D

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  2. Bruce_F25 January 2013 at 16:05

    In the US promo Elena wants to kill Kol and now she wants to take out Rebekah. Two thumbs up for ruthless Elena. I like it. Maybe she is a bit like Damon after all.

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  3. kiaraA25 January 2013 at 17:28

    Agree. Elena rocks when she plans on killing originals. Or just taking them out.

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  4. kiaraA25 January 2013 at 17:34

    I couldn't hear much, but according to the text, it looks like Becca is getting between Stefan and the others, bringing out the Stefan that cares for no one and nothing.
    But as long everyone thinks hooking them up was a good idea …
    Like we don't already have enough psychos in MF (Klaus, Kol, Becca, Shane).

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  5. Joy Haldar25 January 2013 at 17:49

    No,she sucks big time.originals changed this show for good!!Killing them is never a good idea!

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  6. Bruce_F25 January 2013 at 18:09

    You're missing the point. We're not praising the killing of Originals. Most of them will move to the spinoff anyway. We're happy that Elena is seemingly adopting a more decisively aggressive attitude (similar to Damon's) rather than her traditionally whiny attitude she usually displayed as a human.

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  7. kiaraA25 January 2013 at 18:24

    "Originals changed this show for good"? Yes. In S2 and the first half of S3. Since then they ruined the show. Haven't you noticed? We're running in circles. How many attempts we had for killing Klaus (and his siblings)? 20? 30? It always follows the same pattern. They make plans, they fail, Klaus kills someone, they make new plans and fail again. It's getting so boring, I'm not even expecting anything from it, cause the outcome is absolutely predictable. And the story … We're going nowhere with the storyline. It's obvious that not only they make up stories to justify the originals staying in MF, some of the storylines are adjusted, so the originals fit in.

    Don't get me wrong. I love the show. It's good. But I think, it was better in S1 and 2. Just think how much we covered in S1 and S2 (the Salvatore brothers, witches, the tomb and the vampires in it, Katerina, the werewolves, originals, hybrids, the sacrifice, …). But now it's just about the originals. They made up this story about a cure to justify Klaus and the others on the show, and added Silas to make it more interesting, giving some of the characters a reason to not go after this cure (if it exists).
    I think, it's time to finally end the originals chapter and go on. Making this show again what it was 2 years (or even one year) ago.

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  8. kiaraA25 January 2013 at 18:30

    I absolutely agree with you. Elena in S1 …Whiny, scared, little girl.
    But I also want the originals to go. One way or another. If it has to be a spinoff, then so be
    it. Move them to a new show, kill them, lock them away, I don't care. It's time to finish the original chapter and move on. They should have done it a year ago.

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  9. Drac175325 January 2013 at 19:05

    Damon and Stefan are just as psychotic. Kol seems to be the only sane person around, knowing that finding the cure and Silas is a terrible idea

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  10. bobseh25 January 2013 at 19:15

    Yeah, thumbs up Elena, you're a real pro for knowingly willing to commit mass genocide.

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  11. lsbloom25 January 2013 at 19:35

    Without the originals and Klaus snarking and Kol plotting and Rebekah making Stefan be all emotionless and cray-cray, there wouldn't be a plot. They have great dialogue and interesting, lethal personalities. Yes, there has been a lot of hey let's try to get Klaus out of the way stories--frequently by secondary characters like Mikael and Ester--but the majority of this year has been a let's fix Elena story which has nothing to do with that at all. Almost every supernatural show has someone they can't kill. How many times did they try (and fail) to kill Angelus, Spike, Wolfram and Hart, Baltar. I would be more concerned with the Hey Bonnie is getting manipulated again storyline because not only is it overdone, but it is boring and an excuse to write in some way strong power out of nowhere that has an absurd limit that you don't find out until the last minute and she ends up being useless yet again.

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  12. lsbloom25 January 2013 at 19:36

    I like sired Elena, she is more aggressive, but still whines too much for me.

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  13. lsbloom25 January 2013 at 19:38

    I don't think that Damon believes the Silas fairytale (which we haven't gotten much of, just that Kol found some followers once and decided to be scared of Silas) and Klaus seems to feel like the cure is a bigger threat to him than Silas could be. So it is more about perception than sanity.

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  14. Girly25 January 2013 at 19:50

    LOL. What next? Equal rights for vamps?

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  15. Bruce_F25 January 2013 at 20:40

    Sorry, but as much as we all love vampires, the supernatural race of murderous parasites don't get to claim victims rights.

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  16. kiaraA25 January 2013 at 21:11

    Damon isn't psychotic. He just has a bad temper and can sometimes be an ass. But he's better now than he was in S1. And Stefan is just spending too much time with psychotic originals.

    Kol sane? Hahahaha. Oh, wait, did you just meant it?

    He may be the only one to realize that releasing Silas is stupid and a risk not worth taking. But his actions are proof that he needs serious help. Just as Klaus and Becca. If we talk originals, I think Elijah is the only one sane. If Kol doesn't want Silas to go free, why not talk to his brother? Oh, right, they don't talk, they just kill each other or put daggers thru each others hearts. Damn, I'm glad my brother and I go along.
    Kol could work with the others to put Klaus in a coffin. How about that? And no one has to die for it. But where is the fun in that?

    Kol doesn’t want the cure for himself. Becca? She did said she wants it, but I think right now, she would rather use it on Klaus. Elena is getting used to her new life. If she would take it, she would do it to break the sire bond. Stefan wanted it mostly because of Elena, so they can have a real future together. Guess, he's over that now. Klaus. He wants it for Elena and then destroy it. But if he's in a coffin at the bottom of the ocean, that problem is solved.

    And one more thing to think about. The spell, Esther used, already existed. The witch that created that spell probably also created the cure, IF there is one. Why bother with Silas and the Five, and codes and spells, … Why not go straight to the source? We've got a powerful witch and two hot guys who can make contact with ghosts. Contact the witch and convince her to give them the recipe or spell, or whatever this cure should be.

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  17. kiaraA25 January 2013 at 21:36

    No offence, but in S1 and 2 the show worked quite well without the originals. And don't get me wrong, but the originals were great. The sacrifice, the family, Klaus hybrids, Esther, … I loved it all. It was just too much. The repeated attempts to kill them, the filler eps, … It all got too much and going on for too long. They should have ended this chapter in S3. Now they made up this cure, just to find a reason to keep Klaus around. The Silas story is great, but was added to the cure to make it more interesting and to form two sites. The one that want's to find the cure and is risking to release Silas, and the one who wants to prevent it.

    Buffy/Angel? Good to know I'm not the only dinosaur. And yes, they tried to kill Angel and Spike several times. But not as many times as they tried it with Klaus, I guess. And yes, Angelus was a psycho. But: he showed up, killed someone, tried to destroy the world, … and when his story was finished, they let him go. Or in this case, they turned him back to Angel, but I guess you get my point. That doesn’t go for TVD. JP is unable to let Klaus or the others go. She's forcing them into the show. And Spike. He was the bed guy in S2. But he was never a psycho. Well, sometimes he was. But at least he followed some logic (another thing not working for the originals on TVD). And they let him go in S2, when his part was done. He came back in S3 just once. And then returned in S4, but he changed. They changed his character so he could stay. And at the same time, they gave us another villain. It wasn't easy to bring Spike into the Scoobies, but they made it work. JP can't make it work on TVD, if she refuses to change Klaus character. But by doing so, she would destroy his character. The writers and JP put themselves in that position. Now the only solution they found was a spinoff. So sad.

    Yes, this thing with Bonnie is another part that is repeating itself. They should stabilize her character.

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  18. kiaraA25 January 2013 at 23:05

    How many apocalypses Buffy faced? 10 or 12 I'd say. But it was always great and never annoying. Although, thinking of it now: 10 or 12 apocalypses in 7 years? We could call that a repeating pattern. But weird, it never bothered me. Not even now, after all this years. And trust me, I watched every season at least 5-10 times. JW just has it. I bet, if he would make TVD, the failed attempts of killing Klaus would have never get bored or annoying.
    I absolutely agree on the angels in Supernatural. I think it was never meant to keep them so long. But it's completely different than the originals in TVD. Cause SPN has a wide spectrum of mythology to go with it. Heaven, hell, purgatory and all creatures and phenomenons connected. They can also get inspiration from other religions.

    But on TVD you can see that they try everything to adjust the story so the originals can fit in. In 1000 years of vampire history no one ever mentioned a cure (and we know now that the originals know about it for 900 years). Not even in a legend. Until now, when they needed a reason for Klaus to stay.

    "Klaus keeps the plots moving" Sorry, but I will never see it like that. I think, keeping the originals is preventing the story to develop. It's developing too slow.

    But I agree that Klaus is a good character (that is why changing him would mean destroying him) and that Joseph is doing a brilliant job. That is why JP refuses to let him go.

    I posted once, that I believe, the problem could be, that the show made a jump instead of steps. In Buffy (for example) the villains got stronger and more dangerous with every season. S1 one master vampire, S2 2/3 vampires, S3 an invincible major, … up to a crazy goddess and the First. Slow steps. JP made a huge jump from the tomb vampires (pissed off vampires, but normal vampires, easy to kill) directly to the originals (strong and almost impossible to kill). And I believe, that another reason for keeping Klaus is, that she finds it hard to find a new villain to replace him. Who could compete with Klaus? Well in that discussion someone suggested Katerina. And at first I was surprised, cause she is just a normal vampire. But she is smart, ruthless and manipulative. And makes a dangerous enemy.

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  19. lsbloom25 January 2013 at 23:38

    You conveniently leave out stuff you don't think fits your argument--villains in Buffy like Adam, the three nerds, Willow. Willow was a huge problem they made her ridiculously powerful and then had to keep throwing stuff in to keep her in check--because end of the day Buffy had to save the world.


    On one hand you say the show is developing too slowly and then on the other you say it is taking these huge leaps. On one hand you are attacking the show for redundancy in not killing Klaus, but everybody has been on the chopping block more than once (Elena, Alaric, Matt, Jeremy), you claim to have not minded redundancy in other shows, and you are never on here complaining about all the other repetitive plot elements in TVD. I mean the idea of a 1000 year old creature not talking about everything single mythological thing they know no matter how irrelevant it is to modern life is a pretty weird complaint. Of course the writers are going to invent something new every season--a cure, a new bad guy, a curse, a new town event...they have to make up new plots. Every show does this.


    Look, I get you have taken a particular dislike to Klaus, maybe you have a better idea that you wish they would have done, maybe you wish they'd bring Katherine back and you blame Klaus for her absence. But the fact of the matter is your argument has a lot of holes and is really inconsistent. I don't know what to say. Maybe they'll leave with the spinoff, and maybe then the writers will write the story you wish they would,

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  20. kiaraA26 January 2013 at 14:38

    I think it has more to do with her being a vampire than being sired. Vampires are, after all, a predatory species. Except, of course, Damon tells her to kick some ass.

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  21. kiaraA26 January 2013 at 14:40

    LOL, you're killing me! Hahaha

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  22. kiaraA26 January 2013 at 14:41

    Sure. Would you vote for a vampire as president?

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  23. bobseh26 January 2013 at 15:37

    The show's been trying to prove that vampire's also come in good and bad for 4 seasons. There are criminals, murders, pedophiles in the human race, does that mean a vampire is justified to kill them all?

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  24. bobseh26 January 2013 at 15:38

    So are the human race.

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