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POLL : What did you think of Person of Interest - Karma?

11 Mar 2015

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20 comments:

  1. Michael Emerson, simply the best!!

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  2. I really find that the female psychiatrist has ZERO chemistry with John Reese and hope she is not going to be a regular because Sarah Shahi had to leave show.

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  3. They fit Iris into the episode much better than I thought they would and all the Finch stuff was great. All in all, a pretty solid filler episode.

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  4. meh, an ok filler episode.

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  5. A Decent Filler Episode.

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  6. I like the episode, was better than last one, but I'm done with fillers episodes, I hope they begin to show more about Samaritan and Brotherhood plans, after all the season finale is coming.


    Plus: I like Harold flashback is good to see more of him and Alicia Corwin after the death of Nathan.
    Another observation is that 'machine' monitoring irrelevants, this is not usual for her.

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  7. Weaker episode, especially because we didn't get enough of the flashbacks; they were still very interesting, though, as average as the case of the week was. Also, Hector and Bear would get along very well.

    More thoughts/review: http://polarbearstv.com/2015/03/11/person-of-interest-karma-review-4x17/

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  8. A little disappointing in the end, but some really well crafted moments, fantastic one-liners, and some very important flashbacks.


    What this episode was about was giving Finch a bit of humanity and depth. He's the cornerstone of Team Machine so if he's running smoothly mentally then everyone else can fall into place and do their job. He's been there and done that with the tough losses he's encountered, but he's come out the other side a much stronger, more driven man, despite his disabilities. He is getting his own form of unique, productive revenge on the system by way of vigilante justice


    The most important moment of the episode was 42 seconds in. We see Corwin's bio, with Northern Lights and two other affiliated programs - Able Danger and Stellar Wind - listed. The creative team wouldn't have put those two names there for no reason at all, so I'm betting that's the catalyst of a new fork about to be opened up at some point. Both those names represent real life NSA and SOCOM programs according to Google. Both were heavily involved with 9/11, and it was 9/11 which spurred Ingram and Finch to form The Machine.

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  9. Good episode even though it was a filler episode. The flashbacks were very good and interesting. The case of the week was good enough. Still a good episode in the end.

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  10. Able Danger and Stellar Wind were both namedropped in the MPOV closing screen of 'Lethe'. Believe they were listed as 'Deactivated'.

    But then again, so was Samaritan. It could re-initiate these two as asset AIs in its war against the Machine. And given TM's likely doing the same, by having Root work with Caleb on his special project, we could have an AI ecosystem sooner or later!

    http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/pediaofinterest/images/1/18/POI_0311_Graph3.png/revision/latest?cb=20131218115457

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  11. As someone who might be the only one who really liked the 3 previous episodes, this episode was about 2 steps backward. The writing was weak; both in the real time and in the flashback scenes.



    The PoI was pretty lacklustre. I didn't really care about his backstory or his turn to the dark side.


    The flashbacks served as nothing more than to explain why Harold is so adamant against murder. There was no plot progression or no foreshadowing of the upcoming AI/gang war that is surely to come. At least Guilty had a nugget of that in 1 scene and the other 2 were partially about Samaritan.


    The timing of this episode would have been fine early on in the season but with 6 episodes to go, they should have ramped these wars that have been brewing by this episode. What a wasted opportunity.

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  12. I mostly enjoyed this episode. The flashbacks were pretty nice (especially Michael did a great job there), I thought the number case worked relatively well.
    I never thought Finch was this close to killing Alicia with a bomb. I mean, of course, we suspected he was in a dark place back then, but I didn't see him going this far.
    Imo, it was about time to introduce the flashbacks because a lot of people edged with why Finch is so invested against murder under their watch (I hope you get what I mean).
    Also loved how The Machine tried to talk to Finch. It couldn't, though. I guess this was when Finch decided it had to have a voice.

    Last episode introduced the character Harper which I enjoyed a lot, but otherwise that number case felt better. It wasn't stellar, sure, but I thought it worked.

    So, maybe the timing of this episode was a little odd. This was episode 17, the last major plot development happened in 4x13. Of course, 4x15 featured Claire and thus Samaritan (which I thought didn't work well) and 4x16 Dominic (still not feeling that plot).
    Compared to last season, I think it's time to jump back into the plot. Especially since they did this awesome midseason trilogy (+ MIA) and then just went procedural again. In a weird way, this makes me enjoy the episodes we get less than they should.

    Don't get me wrong, I enjoy well written procedural. Most procedural cases this season didn't really convince me.

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  13. everyoneissleeping11 March 2015 at 17:02

    Michael Emerson is *amazing*.

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  14. OMG how much I miss Root/Shaw!!
    we already lost Shaw, can we have Root back at least?
    I don't ask much!
    they were brilliant, fun and even intense when necessary.
    I like Iris, I think is good for John, but the last episodes don't stand the pasts, sometimes they became boring.

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  15. Just my opinion, but I think that the absence of Shaw is affecting the show. I can't pinpoint it but I feel like a part of the show is missing or maybe it's jut me who comes away with the feeling of missing something while watching the episodes.

    As for the episode, my thoughts are similar to those of @Fringenos.

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  16. I have the same feeling.

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  17. everyoneissleeping13 March 2015 at 17:30

    I think that both AIs
    would perceive any additional AI as a risk to their own survival. Martine's
    first victim (that we know of...) essentially told us that Samaritan was
    getting rid of any potential rivals. Also, the Machine tried to do the same by
    stopping AI that, according to her, “wasn't meant to be in this world”. Both AIs
    understand that you cannot stop "their kind" from evolving, so, the
    way I see it, Samaritan won't risk letting any other of his kind to be created,
    fearing it would undermine the new world order he's in the process of shaping,
    while the Machine won't risk having another “Samaritan” running around.

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  18. Nolan mentioned in an interview with io9 earlier this year that "Samaritan might be very, very interested in strangling its rivals in the cradle. Or cultivating them." Its attitude towards other AIs besides the Machine is "something we're going to continue to explore as we go forward. We like the messiness of this landscape, in which intelligence begins to emerge in quiet places."

    Samaritan may have changed its stance at stopping further competition after its conversation with The Machine, and may decide to develop them more to combat its rival more efficiently. In another interview, he mentioned that 'a lot of [real-life scientists focus on] the emergence of one A.I.; for us, we're on the next level, saying no, there'd be an ecosystem here. It felt natural to us that one begets another, there'd be an ecosystem of artificial intelligence, and their conflict with each other might have disastrous consequences for us. [Our two A.I.s'] cold war with one another is about to get a little hotter.'

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  19. Aside from a couple of awkward spots in the writing, I really like this episode. Like Guilty, it's light on action, though darker by contrast. Chris Fisher even noted the use of shadow and silhouette for a Hitchcock vibe. I think the action it does have is well done. Seeing the armed-robbery framing unfold is exciting in a sort of Mission-Creep-esque way, with a bit of The Prestige. Edwards setting up Morris, especially, reminds me of the Nolan film.

    It's meant to be a reflective piece, underlined by opening with a flashback (and ending with an almost-flashback). It reminds me of Finch telling Nathan that the Machine "looks for plotters". It makes me think about Alicia, Carter, and Shaw as well as about Finch and Reese.

    I'm loving the therapy scenes with Iris, for Jim's performance, Reese's development, and for another episode that's called to mind: The Devil's Share.

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  20. Me, too, I hope she is not going to be a regular either.

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