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Agents of SHIELD - Episode 2.11 - Aftershocks - Sneak Peek 2

2 Mar 2015

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155 comments:

  1. klutzy_girl2 March 2015 at 16:17

    Nice job upsetting Skye, guys. And I understand why Mack's upset too but calm down. Damn!

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  2. ThulaLani2 March 2015 at 16:26

    Wow, this looks so intense. The team can't afford to be fracturing like this at the moment.

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  3. Justin Valdes2 March 2015 at 16:32

    Well damn that got heated pretty quickly but it's understandable. The team has no idea what the hell is going on with Skye so it's all new to them. They've never dealt with something as big as one of their own getting superpowers firsthand.

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  4. Monjia2 March 2015 at 16:42

    OMG My heart raced while watching this sneak peek. I think that tommorow will be hard for me to focus on anything but AOS returns.

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  5. Mbsb2 March 2015 at 16:45

    Is it bad that agree with Mack?


    Also, lol at the blurred soda brand.

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  6. Anna Bender2 March 2015 at 16:45

    Oh boy...my heart is racing.
    ...the tension is rising....don't upset Skye, guys. Bad idea, very bad.
    I understand Mack is upset, but don't blame Skye or Coulson. The work they do is dangerous and they know that, that's what they signed up for. And Tripp knew that, too. He died as a hero so don't take that away from him.

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  7. Jovana Vuckovic2 March 2015 at 16:49

    oooohhhhhh this is INTENSE! I can't wait, I can't wait.
    And I'm glad someone is questioning the situation, but Skye hearing 'He traided his life for hers' is not gonna end well.

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  8. sparky422 March 2015 at 16:58

    In terms of Mack, I think that it might be connected to what Bobbi and Mack are involved in. As for his comments, as if Furry never did a lot worse.

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  9. sparky422 March 2015 at 16:59

    As if Furry ever explained everything, or didn't mess around with things that he didn't understand. Think this might have something to do with what Mack and Bobbi are up to.

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  10. ThulaLani2 March 2015 at 17:00

    I do understand where Mack is coming from but in that moment, them arguing like that will only end very badly for everyone. I think he's being a little naive at the moment about Hydra and their end game regarding that city. Coulson did have a one track mind about that alien writing but it couldn't be avoided.

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  11. Mbsb2 March 2015 at 17:04

    One of the things I like about this scene is that it keeps in character with how Mack was in the comics.


    The comics version of Alphonse Mackenzie questioned SHIELD's leadership and, more specifically, Fury's way of doing things and butted heads with him quite often.


    He went on to write a whistleblower book on SHIELD and Nick Fury which completely ruined Fury's reputation and credibility on the Superhero comunity.

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  12. sparky422 March 2015 at 17:07

    And once it was resolved, given that they knew Hydra was looking for it as well, what other choice did they have?

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  13. ThulaLani2 March 2015 at 17:08

    As S.H.I.E.L.D. agents, isn't it a bit late in the game to be miffed about what happened in the city after Loki, Thor and the Chitauri decimating a large portion of New York City?

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  14. sparky422 March 2015 at 17:10

    You would think so, or even watching Iron Man in several of his actions. I don't really see why Mack has this problem.

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  15. ThulaLani2 March 2015 at 17:11

    Now Coulson is in Fury's shoes.

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  16. Lou2 March 2015 at 17:14

    I like that their are different views from the Agents, its boring story telling when everyone agrees especially when it involves matters of life and death. Its natural Mack would feel less blind loyalty to Coulson and that Fitz would defend him.

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  17. sparky422 March 2015 at 17:21

    I wonder will this be the first time the team sees Skye's power in action? It's going to be good seeing the response.

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  18. dr7872 March 2015 at 17:22

    Holy sh!t! I can't wait.. there has been a shield shaped hole in my life without this show ha. One more day!

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  19. Lord Nikon2 March 2015 at 17:22

    I'm starting to hate Mack and i don't want to see him if he acts like this!

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  20. Justin Valdes2 March 2015 at 17:23

    Agreed. Mack has always been the one to doubt Coulson's authority ever since the beginning so this outburst coming from him shouldn't be all that surprising.

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  21. Platynum2 March 2015 at 17:24

    Yassss.....I love it.Lets see Skye in action!!

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  22. Historical_Materialist2 March 2015 at 17:31

    Coulson should just tell Daisy: look I know a guy that has some serious emotional control issues of his own. His name is Bruce. You should talk to him. Learn some his relaxation techniques.

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  23. Claire2 March 2015 at 17:31

    It has been waaaay too long without this show in my life. I can't wait for tomorrow, and I hope we can get a Season 3! But seriously they should not upset Skye. She's going to turn into the Bruce of AOS and we know how that turned out, or at least the helicarrier does.

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  24. Lou2 March 2015 at 17:44

    Yeah its not like this is out of character for Mack.

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  25. Asia2 March 2015 at 18:07

    Seriously that Mac guy should shut it!!! They should have killed him instead of Tripp!!!!

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  26. Karri2 March 2015 at 18:18

    Poor Skye. I'm not at all surprised by Mack's attitude given how he was about Coulson after 2x07. He didn't seem to have a problem with going to the city before they went there though. In fact the only one I remember questioning it was Skye.

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  27. Beth Shields2 March 2015 at 18:49

    For the love of God can we SKIP MONDAY PLEASE!

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  28. FK92 March 2015 at 19:06

    Well, Skye could have NOT gone down into the city, knowing they were about to blow it up and probably Raina with it. If she hadn't, Trip wouldn't have gone to rescue her and would still be alive.


    I find it funny that Coulson is blaming Hydra for what happened to Trip when you really can't pin this one on them.

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  29. FK92 March 2015 at 19:08

    Trip was an unimportant, superfluous character. At least Mack actually does things.

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  30. sparky422 March 2015 at 19:09

    From memory though, Skye couldn't know if the team had managed to set the charges nor how long the timers were set for. She was taken from the Bus without contacting them and I don't think Coulson told her that there were charges set just "Not to go down there".

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  31. FK92 March 2015 at 19:12

    As much as I like Coulson, I'm really glad someone is finally questioning his decisions. It would be boring if everyone was still following him blindly after everything that's happened. And he hasn't exactly been acting 100% rational since the Kree juice started effecting him; somebody really needed to point that out. Makes perfect sense for it to be Mack since he hasn't been on the team as long as the others. It's in keeping with his comic counterpart too.

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  32. sparky422 March 2015 at 19:14

    Think of those not in the States, at best (and not quite "right" it's Wednesday before we can see it.

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  33. ThulaLani2 March 2015 at 19:30

    I have to wait till Friday. I'm gonna attempt the impossible and stay away from AoS related websites over the next three and a half days, just so I remain spoiler free.

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  34. ThulaLani2 March 2015 at 19:30

    I disagree.

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  35. ThulaLani2 March 2015 at 19:31

    Too long.

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  36. FK92 March 2015 at 19:33

    Right, right... I was remembering wrong. Damn, three month hiatus. lol


    Nevertheless, while Hydra may have been the cause of this, they weren't the only ones responsible. Coulson really needs to accept his share of the responsibility here. One of his men got killed under his command and good leaders own up to that.

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  37. sparky422 March 2015 at 19:33

    After waiting this long, I'll be going the "not legal" route on Wednesday, Ireland hasn't even scheduled it yet (or showed Agent Carter).

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  38. sparky422 March 2015 at 19:36

    I'm sure he will, or at least talk to somebody about it. On the other hand Mack shouldn't be going at him in a public setting, if he wanted to debate Coulson's decision tree it should have been with Coulson in his office.

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  39. sparky422 March 2015 at 19:38

    I want to see the teams reactions...

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  40. sparky422 March 2015 at 19:38

    Might be out of the show's budget, not too mention the whole telling the Avengers bit.

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  41. Anna Bender2 March 2015 at 19:39

    Why do I have the feeling that Mack will be a supporter of the Superhuman Registration Act (Civil War)?

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  42. sparky422 March 2015 at 19:41

    True particularly as up until the very end as far as they knew the Diviner was a highly dangerous "WMD" that they knew HYDRA had in it's possession. What else could they do, just hope HYDRA don't figure out where the city is...

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  43. FK92 March 2015 at 19:43

    Tell you what, if you can give me one example, just one critical function that Trip performed on the team that couldn't have been done by someone else, one storyline where he was spotlighted and proved to be an integral character and not completely expendable, one instance where his character was even developed in any kind of substantial way, I will buy you a steak dinner.



    A lot of people don't like hearing it, but if someone had to die, Trip was the logical one to go. Mack has been around for much less time and he's already developed more as a character than Trip ever did.

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  44. ThulaLani2 March 2015 at 19:47

    Apart from FitzSimmons, you can almost say the same about the others. Tripp wasn't the only one expandable on the team.

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  45. Just TV Shows2 March 2015 at 19:48

    In Spain in a couple of hours premieres episode 9, which means this episode will air the 16th, so yeah, going the "not legal route" on Wednesday here too. I can't take the wait!

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  46. ThulaLani2 March 2015 at 19:49

    I think Coulson would also be for the registration act despite his love for Cash but now I can't tell.

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  47. FK92 March 2015 at 19:50

    Hey, from the flatscan's POV, superhuman registration makes a lot of sense, just so long as the people behind it aren't corrupt.

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  48. sparky422 March 2015 at 19:53

    There's no way I could wait that long, the months have been long enough, and then the next week has Sif. I'm still waiting for the TV station to say when they are putting back on.

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  49. ThulaLani2 March 2015 at 19:54

    Seriously, they can't keep Coulson secret forever.

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  50. Lou2 March 2015 at 19:55

    I would love a Bruce cameo but Mark Ruffalo is so damn busy these days.

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  51. sparky422 March 2015 at 19:55

    I don't think Coulson would be, when you think that at least one part of Shield's job pre fall was hiding gifting people, he does know that letting everyone know identities and powers of people has the potential for Mob reactions

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  52. sparky422 March 2015 at 19:57

    I don't think they've figured out how to do it. It's not happening on Avengers 2, maybe Fury will mention that he's not the Director anymore?

    Either that or maybe if the rumour about Hawkeye bring in an episode?

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  53. ThulaLani2 March 2015 at 19:58

    Hawkeye on AoS would be beyond awesome.

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  54. pink_tentacle2 March 2015 at 20:15

    so much tension, i hope for many more.. can't wait

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  55. sparky422 March 2015 at 20:25

    Going to be interesting to see how the team react when they see Skye Quake. As for Mack, yeah I wonder is connected to what he and Bobbi are up to.

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  56. sparky422 March 2015 at 20:26

    That could be just about where the sneak peak is being shown or something.

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  57. Folie-lex2 March 2015 at 20:26

    Royalties man... they're a bitch... always have some fake or greeked soda or cans in hand. That's my moto...


    I bet they'll have CG'd the brand of the can for the episode though.

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  58. ajebo2 March 2015 at 20:27

    Yes so much tension , I just hope for many many more

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  59. sparky422 March 2015 at 20:28

    And she's got pretty major Superpowers just to add to it, wonder if they are going to do anything like the other "improvements" Inhumans have or just stick with the powers (probable just powers given the budget)

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  60. sparky422 March 2015 at 20:29

    Even if she wasn't Gifted now that's a really stupid thing to say to an agent that's just gone through losing a friend.

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  61. Folie-lex2 March 2015 at 20:32

    I do get a feeling that the CG for this clip isn't complete anyway. On of the screens on there that seems a bit off. So I wouldn't be surprised if this is the unfinished product.

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  62. Folie-lex2 March 2015 at 20:33

    I need all the Avengers to be on this show. (Clint & Natasha like NEED to be in there...)


    Too damn bad that's just cost prohibiting.

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  63. Folie-lex2 March 2015 at 20:34

    I think you're confusing Tripp with Hunter...

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  64. Folie-lex2 March 2015 at 20:37

    Well that got uncomfortable pretty quickly...

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  65. FK92 March 2015 at 20:39

    Not really...


    Coulson -- leader.


    May -- second in command, great fighter, flies the plane, Skye's S.O., Coulson's confidante.


    Skye -- central character of the show, major character from the comics, computer expert, Inhuman, earthquake powers.


    Bobbi -- great fighter, flies the plane, relationship storyline with Hunter, secret mission with Mack, major character from the comics.


    Hunter -- great fighter, relationship storyline with Bobbi, source of comic relief, character from the comics.


    Simmons -- team doctor, expert biologist, will-they-won't-they storyline with
    Fitz, possible brainwashing subplot.



    Fitz -- team engineer, weapons designer, will-they-won't-they storyline with Simmons, continuing brain damage recovery subplot.


    Mack -- team mechanic, only one who can help Fitz communicate, secret mission with Bobbi, character from the comics.

    Koenigs -- source of comic relief, LMD(?) subplot.


    Trip -- flies the plane (May and Bobbi can do that).
    -- great fighter (May, Bobbi, Hunter, Coulson, and Skye are too).
    -- medical training (Simmons surely has a lot more).
    -- can fix the plane (so can Mack and Fitz).
    -- has Howling Commando gadgets that come in handy occasionally

    (Fitz/Mack/Simmons could most likely figure out how to get by
    without those easily enough).


    And even if Trip did bring something indispensable to the table, the other characters have received far more attention and development, whereas Trip had remained static. Why kill one of the characters the writers were investing time into when they could kill the one they weren't and get the same result?

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  66. Lou2 March 2015 at 20:43

    yeah and its also the contracts as well, when many of the actors signed up way back they probably didn't think to add a TV clause! I wonder if any of recent new MCU actors have options to be in the shows.

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  67. Jovana Vuckovic2 March 2015 at 20:45

    I agree. It's said in anger, but it's a terrible thing to say. It's not her fault. And they don't even know what happened there, and Skye does which only makes her more guilty in her eyes. But I'm with Mack on questioning Coulson.

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  68. Folie-lex2 March 2015 at 20:45

    I hope they do... If I were Kevin Feige I'd try to include something like that.


    And you know with Jeremy and Robert having mentioned the show fairly recently, they are giving me hope, and I don't want to get my hopes up, but MAN! wouldn't it be great!

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  69. FK92 March 2015 at 20:46

    Hunter? The guy in the relationship storyline with Bobbi? The character from the comics? The guy the first two episodes of the season focused on? They guy who they teased may become involved in whatever Bobbi and Mack's secret is? That the guy you're talking about?


    No, Hunter does plenty of stuff. Far more than Trip did, that's for sure.

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  70. sparky422 March 2015 at 20:51

    Could you imagine RDJ being on the show... That would be truly EPIC!

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  71. sparky422 March 2015 at 20:53

    Though he should be having the discussion in Private, not in public right in front of everyone else, and certainly not when the situation is so raw. And yeah I can imagine how this will impact Skye even more.

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  72. Lou2 March 2015 at 20:53

    I really want Clint to turn up! He is the Avenger we have spent the least about of time with!

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  73. sparky422 March 2015 at 20:53

    Could be, to me the audio seems a bit off when you are getting the view from inside the isolation area.

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  74. sparky422 March 2015 at 20:55

    That's true and he would have the more emotional reaction given both the time he worked with Coulson and his involvement in Coulson's "death". That would be an intense episode.

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  75. Folie-lex2 March 2015 at 21:08

    *nods* And his character is the one who'd fit the best full time on the show.


    Depending on what goes down in AoU I'm, subconsciously, holding out a bit he might be on next year in a semi regular capacity....


    And as I have a feeling Clint and Natasha still don't know Coulson's alive, OH! the angst!

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  76. Gaia Di Lorenzo2 March 2015 at 21:10

    "watch it Mac" OMG #Philinda loveeeeeeeee

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  77. sparky422 March 2015 at 21:13

    Be interesting to see Coulson's reaction when the chamber opened alright.

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  78. sparky422 March 2015 at 21:15

    That would be cool, I could imagine the gadgets that the two would come up with.

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  79. sparky422 March 2015 at 21:16

    I doubt given his other film commitments that he could give all that time. Also I think that might be intertwining the show and the movies too much. But who knows.

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  80. Claire2 March 2015 at 21:26

    On a side note, I really really wonder if it picks up right after the mid season premiere left us, or are they all already back to the jet....

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  81. Folie-lex2 March 2015 at 21:27

    I'd die if we ever got a Tony/Fitz scene!

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  82. Jovana Vuckovic2 March 2015 at 21:27

    Well, I can't see the calm approach here. xD It happened in a heat of the moment, without thinking. I can't wait to see whole episode and how all this will play out.

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  83. Justin Valdes2 March 2015 at 21:27

    Eh? I think you replied to the wrong person haha. I wasn't talking about Fitz in my original comment. I was talking about how Mack is always the person who never really appreciated Coulson's leadership.

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  84. Christina2 March 2015 at 21:27

    Fitz was kind of trying to help Mack explain himself (in qualifying his statement), but I didn't pick up on him necessarily being on his side. Fitz was the first one to follow Coulson last Season, so I'd think he still has some lingering loyalty there.

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  85. Folie-lex2 March 2015 at 21:27

    Now I'm taking most of this info from IMDb (so obviously fists full of salt to be taken with this information) but:
    With MI5 listed on there as being in post production (ie they've finished filming) the only thing he has coming up to shoot is the Bourne sequel.
    And with Matt Damon on board for that his schedule I feel will be pretty decently divided.

    And if the rumours are true and he is indeed in CA3 then that's gonna film now in April... and that's under the Marvel umbrella too. You know they make time for their own...


    So his schedule is actually not that hectic for next year. Which might mean he has cleared his schedule for AoS.

    And I'm purely using my deductive skills to speculate by grasping on straws, I'm aware, but let a girl dream would you! :P

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  86. klutzy_girl2 March 2015 at 21:27

    Her name is Skye, not Daisy (as has been stated in multiple interviews about the midseason premiere). That is her name unless she says otherwise and people should use it.

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  87. Folie-lex2 March 2015 at 21:27

    Hunter is a plot ploy. He has relationships in the show sure, but he has a very one tone personality and is quite expendable as a character.
    The time they spent at the beginning of the season introducing him, wasn't really worth while as far as I'm concerned, and his connection to Bobbi left me "meh".


    Tripp had history in the MCU (even if it wasn't explored much, but I think that was a lost opportunity from TPTB) and as a character he was fun and layered. And I appreciated that his introduction to the show and the team was gradual. He earned his right to be there, just like everyone else who was there in S1.

    Hunter was shoehorned in and we were expected to fawn over him...

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  88. Folie-lex2 March 2015 at 21:27

    Exactly!

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  89. Historical_Materialist2 March 2015 at 21:29

    Sorry, I'm with Cal on this one. Daisy is the name her father gave her.

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  90. Dimitri Theodosakis2 March 2015 at 21:34

    My Bet Mack Bobbi Anti Alien since Battle of New York aka Avenegers even more hating Alien since Midseason Finale

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  91. klutzy_girl2 March 2015 at 21:35

    Yeah, no. Daisy is just her birth name. Skye is the name she chose for herself and we should respect that unless she says otherwise. She isn't going to start calling her Daisy just because that's the name she had for a few months. Life doesn't work that way.

    She will most likely start using Quake as her superhero name somewhere down the line, though, and I can't wait for it.

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  92. Dimitri Theodosakis2 March 2015 at 21:38

    This is liking first Time anyone from Shield going Within Skye Inhuman powers

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  93. Anna Bender2 March 2015 at 21:52

    I wonder how Coulson will react to the revelation that Skye is changed now and which side he'll choose in Civil War. My best guess is that he'll stand side by side with Cap, 'cause of his man crush on him. But he is also the Director of SHIELD, so....

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  94. Alex Forrest2 March 2015 at 21:54

    I liked Trip but I agree. He is one character who's never had even a small semblance of a storyline, interesting ties to other characters or the mythology (a few references to his being the grandson of a Howling Commando don't cut it), or even that much of a personality. As sad as it was to lose him, it's preferable to the loss of almost any other character, because everyone else serves more of a function than he did.

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  95. Alex Forrest2 March 2015 at 21:56

    Season 3 is a sure thing. The ratings aren't great but they certainly aren't cancellation-level bad, especially when you factor in the critical young male demo that AoS does well in. And we have to remember that AoS gets more leeway than other shows because Disney owns both ABC and Marvel, and AoS is an important part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe which nets Disney billions. So Disney isn't going to let ABC cancel the show so easily.

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  96. sparky422 March 2015 at 21:57

    If you look at the new interview's there's this "mentors prove unfaithful", it also talks about how Coulson has to make hard chocies. Hope that doesn't mean that their relationship is going to break down.

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  97. Historical_Materialist2 March 2015 at 21:58

    Uh, yeah. Daisy is her birth name. Its part of the identity that she has spent the entire series agonizing to discover. Its the name her mother gave her who died so tragically because of their special heritage. Daisy's journey will take several turns as she moves to understanding, accepting and perfecting her ability. And when she's ready, the whole world will see who and what she is: Daisy the InHuman. The Avenger known as Quake.

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  98. klutzy_girl2 March 2015 at 22:01

    Yup, Skye will be an Avenger (known as Quake) and will one day be Director of SHIELD. I can't wait for either of those things to happen.

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  99. Anna Bender2 March 2015 at 22:05

    Hypothetically speaking I wouldn't include myself in that POV, it doesn't make any sense to me. I'm on the side of Cap, I don't like that some people want to control people who are different than themself (that sounds more like Hydra to me).
    The people behind it not being corrupt would be utopistic.

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  100. sparky422 March 2015 at 22:06

    It might not be connected to their mission, but might give insight to the underlying motives/emotions that might be driving them. I doubt Coulson will pick up on it, not if there's also the leak to HYDRA along with Skye.

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  101. sparky422 March 2015 at 22:25

    Yes and no, it's most likely not the first time that there's been a death on a mission that Mack has been involved in. Reacting like he did (particularly the comments about Trip) is something he knew any agent who'd just had a loss was going to be hurting.

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  102. sparky422 March 2015 at 22:26

    I'd go with klutzy_girl, I can't see Skye moving away from "Skye" to Daisy anytime soon.

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  103. sparky422 March 2015 at 22:27

    True, but this is going to be a massive ask, I think that it might play into Bobbi/Mack's thing. If they see what Fury would have considered an extremely dangerous Index asset still in the field, that might increase the tensions.

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  104. Alex Forrest2 March 2015 at 22:27

    It makes even more sense when we consider that Mack and Bobbi are on their own little side-mission and possibly have an agenda that conflicts with Coulson's. Which makes me wonder, is Mack's visible hostility towards Coulson going to make the Son of Coul start to suspect that he and Bobbi are up to something? Hmmm... we have the potential for a lot of good tension there.

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  105. Anna Bender2 March 2015 at 22:27

    I meant it long-term. I think he will struggle with it at first, but she changed his opinion once before (see "The Hub").
    And I hope that, too. I love their father/daughter relationship.

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  106. Alex Forrest2 March 2015 at 22:27

    I don't understand why questioning Coulson's decisions is a reason for Mack to be hated. Would it be realistic if everyone always sang Koombaya and agreed with every single order Coulson gave them? Add the fact that Mack is pissed as hell because he just got possessed by aliens (the violation of having your body controlled by an outer force must be a traumatic experience) and his friend Trip died, and I find his outburst at Coulson more than understandable, whether I agree with him in this debate or not.

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  107. sparky422 March 2015 at 22:27

    Agreed, something like the Act is open to abuse no matter the motives behind it, or the logic.

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  108. Anna Bender2 March 2015 at 22:38

    Agree, but fortunately Coulson isn't Fury. Fury said, Coulson is the heart of SHIELD and he would handle things differently than him.

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  109. Historical_Materialist2 March 2015 at 22:54

    At the end of the day it doesn't matter but watching Daisy's journey will be fun.

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  110. sparky422 March 2015 at 22:56

    Sure, but for the experienced agents, it's going to be a change from Fury's way to Coulson's way, particularly in regards to something this big, and that's before they start finding out that it's just the tip of the iceberg. Certainly looking at the interviews, her powers are going to be a source of tensions/stressors on the teams relationships.



    In the new interview on ComicbookResources, Gregg pointed out that this is different to the current heroes, it's not tech, or serums, or tech accidents, but truly powered people.

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  111. Anna Bender2 March 2015 at 23:16

    Agreed, but I hope that the core group will stick together. I think there will be a lot of tension and according to a recent interview, Fitz will keep a secret (he will be probably the first and only one at first who knows Skye's secret) from Simmons and when she'll find that out...geez.
    I wonder how Ward will react when he finds out, 'cause he's complicit in that she has that power now. And with his experience how Hydra has handled gifted people. And there is also the fact that she shot him multiple times. But according to Chloe Bennet their paths won't cross for a while.

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  112. sparky422 March 2015 at 23:26

    Well, I can't see them missing out on her powers from that lab scene, it would be fairly easy to make the connection to the rumbling to the earthquakes. Interesting Fitz keeping something from Simmons.
    For Ward, honestly I'm hoping that he stays the wildcard, though he's also said they have something written for the back half. Another thing is how will she react to him for both forcing her into the situation and if anyone in the city got hurt as well.

    I want to watch now!!!

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  113. ivan2 March 2015 at 23:31

    SHUT THE HELL UP YOU ALIEN RACIST!!!!!!! you know what SHIELD is, you didn't have to join and now you're whining like this is all new? get the hell out of here

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  114. ivan2 March 2015 at 23:32

    "improvements"? what is that sound probie

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  115. ivan2 March 2015 at 23:33

    that son of a bitch! can't believe i liked him, ugh

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  116. ivan2 March 2015 at 23:34

    definitely

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  117. sparky422 March 2015 at 23:40

    Aren't they meant to be stronger/heal faster/better reflexes etc?

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  118. Anna Bender2 March 2015 at 23:44

    Me too, I can't wait anymore and I'm looking forward to the cast's live tweet.
    And I'm curious what's the next step on Ward's story arc.

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  119. Anna Bender2 March 2015 at 23:45

    Yep. That will be awesome!

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  120. FK93 March 2015 at 00:15

    So you're saying that if your son or daughter was in the same class with a kid who has powers they can't control and is a danger to the people around them, you WOULDN'T want some kind of system in place to register and deal with people like that? I'm not saying superhuman registration couldn't be abused, but there would be a lot of benefits to the concept as well.

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  121. FK93 March 2015 at 00:27

    Well, I completely disagree that Hunter has a one-tone personality. He acts like he only cares about money at first, but then he's shown to have a heart and cares about doing the right thing, and stays with SHIELD for reasons other than money. He acts like his ex was a "hell beast" but then is shown to still have a lot of feelings for her. He's also a unique character on the team in that he's the only one who doesn't come from a SHIELD background, (apart from Skye, who's kind of been indoctrinated at this point). He's a merc, who may not be entirely trustworthy, but who Coulson employs because he needs the manpower. Also, he's a snark machine, which I find entertaining. All this is the basis for an interesting character, and it makes him a lot more multi-faceted than Trip ever was.


    Whether you like Hunter or not, you can't deny that he's been focused on more and developed more in a relatively short time than Trip has, meaning the writers have an investment in him and have plans for his character.


    Trip COULD have been interesting, but the writers never bothered to explore him or flesh him out like they have with the other characters, making him, ultimately, the most expendable and the logical one to kill off if somebody had to go.

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  122. Folie-lex3 March 2015 at 00:27

    I had an investment in Tripp as a character because I grew to love him as he became a member of the team and the show. (And I'm fairly confident I'm not alone)



    And yes Hunter has been focused on more since the season started, I won't deny that. But he hasn't been developed more, because he's not interesting enough. As much as they've tried to incorporate him in the show, all the "layers" they've tried to give him haven't touched me. Whether it's the writing or Nick Blood portrayal I don't know (possibly a combo of both) but I feel he's an indifferent as character, who is as expendable as anyone.



    Agree to disagree.

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  123. FK93 March 2015 at 00:43

    You may have had an investment in Trip, other fans may have, but my point is that the writers didn't. Trip's importance was over-inflated by the fan community, when in actuality, he never really did anything important as a character like the others have.


    And Hunter may not have been developed the most in the cast since the season started, but he certainly developed more than Trip did because Trip wasn't developed at all, which is the whole reason why he was expendable.


    FTR, I like Hunter quite a lot. He's become one of my favorite characters actually. Agree to disagree.

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  124. arrowaos3 March 2015 at 01:41

    Completely agreed I liked trip but if he had to die over other characters I'll take
    If anything happened to Fitzsimmons damn I'd be a mess!

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  125. ivan3 March 2015 at 05:18

    huh i thought they just had powers, so they have MORE than that?

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  126. Folie-lex3 March 2015 at 05:43

    Well for the record I don't like Hunter.
    My argument with respect to the character is: they have tried to develop him since the season started. But everything they've done to make him fit, feels shoehorned in there. Being labeled the "wild card because he's a mercenary instead of a soldier, but has a heart of gold anyway". Being Bobbi's ex and offering that angsty personal conflict. He's the token "smartass". They've tried to put him in those roles yet he's still a bore who lacks substance. He hasn't lived up to the hype of how they've set up his character. And for me he is a superfluous character exactly because he has been set up to fill all these roles yet I still can't care to bother...

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  127. Lord Nikon3 March 2015 at 06:56

    I don't hate him because he is questioning Couslson's decisions, i hate him because he says that they should have just left Skye and everybody else to die and to just don't even try to help her. I also i don't like him, because he is still there questioning Coulson when he can at any point just leave SHIELD and be done with it.

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  128. sparky423 March 2015 at 10:01

    According to the comics, I think so, but I doubt they'll do that for Skye anyway, otherwise I can just imagine the complaints.

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  129. Alex Forrest3 March 2015 at 11:12

    I agree that he didn't go about it in the right way, and what he said was hurtful towards Skye. I guess I can just cut him some slack because of his obvious emotional state following what's happened.

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  130. Monjia3 March 2015 at 11:14

    Now they're gonna have to think twice before making her angry, because she can bury them, literally. But I think that Mack is more upset that the city messed with his head. Welcome to the club Mack.

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  131. Alex Forrest3 March 2015 at 11:18

    I don't disagree that what he said was hurtful towards Skye, I just think it has to do with his emotional state at the moment. Skye puts herself in harm's way when she made the pretty irrational decision to go down to the tunnels, so I understand Mack's anger that someone else had to die saving her from the consequences of that. (At some point, everyone was talking over each other so it was hard to understand what they were saying, but I don't think Mack objected to saving Skye from Hydra's captivity - his problem was A) that they went to the alien city in the first place and B) that Trip had to go back down and dismantle the bombs because Skye was there.)


    But when it comes to "he can just leave SHIELD", I can't agree at all. By that logic, Coulson is infallible and everyone must either blindly follow his orders at all times or leave. The organization should not be run like a dictatorship. Yes, Coulson is in charge and gets the final say, but others have the right to express their reservations - and he should consider those.

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  132. ivan3 March 2015 at 11:40

    Skye, her name is Skye

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  133. ivan3 March 2015 at 11:42

    her name is and always will be Skye

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  134. ivan3 March 2015 at 11:43

    you're positive?

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  135. ivan3 March 2015 at 11:44

    you forgot Ward

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  136. ivan3 March 2015 at 11:46

    they're still people and deserve the same respect as a "normal" person

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  137. sparky423 March 2015 at 12:26

    Unfortunately, I'll be well asleep by then, have to wait till Wednesday to "watch" it, still haven't found out when it's coming back on Irish tv.

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  138. sparky423 March 2015 at 12:27

    The issue with that is at the moment that Skye went down after Raina she had no idea what the others had done. She couldn't have known if they set charges, or what the timers were. Last she knew they were trying to get into the city, and the next is the attack on the Hydra base, she had no knowledge of how successful the team had been in destroying the city. For all she knew Raina could have carried out whatever was going to happen (again not that she knew) without any interference from Shield. Shield knew that Hydra was looking for the city and would hunt for it even if Shield stayed away and right up until the end they still thought the Obelisk was a WMD, as such it's not reasonable for Mack to complain about going after it first.

    Mack is blaming her for not having knowledge that she couldn't have at the time that she made her decision, at best he should be arguing that Coulson should have ordered Trip out of the city, but then Coulson didn't order him in either. As for leaving because he disagrees, I agree it's not rational to suggest that, and his state of mind should be taken into account, but a long term agent should know that wasn't the time/place/manner to question Coulson's orders. Can't imagine Fury would take to kindly if he had given the order and it played out like it did, and then have Mack blowing up on him.

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  139. Historical_Materialist3 March 2015 at 16:45

    Her name is Daisy. She has gone by the name "Skye" in absence of her real name. I don't understand the fuss. Its not worth all of the back and forth.

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  140. Lord Nikon3 March 2015 at 17:19

    First i have to say that i disagree completely with what you said about Skye. When we first started SHIELD, Skye didn't know what it meant to be a SHIELD Agent, she didn't know what was behind that word, she didn't know what sacrifices that meant. Now that she is an Agent, she is no longer a newbie. She is ready to give her life to save other, she is ready to do the work, also she never asked Tripp to come back for her, she was just doing what every other agent would do. If Mack is mad about that then he shouldn't be a SHIELD Agent, because after all they protect the world from what lies beneath the shadows, what is hidden from normal people and most importantly what is more dangerous than a robbery of a bank. What that means is that being an Agent of SHIELD means, that you and your fellow agents will have to risk their lives so that everybody else could live. Also Skye when she entered the tunnels she (if you remember) thought that this Obelisk will destroy life on Earth all life, not just the one in nearby city. So she was doing what SHIELD was created for to stop the destruction of life on Earth from unknown and mostly alien threads.
    As for Tripp being killed he can't blame Skye at all. Tripp is a trained agent of SHIELD that means no one left behind no matter of the danger for him. Do you remember the first season of SHIELD, Ward and Fitz were suppose to die on the mission, yet May, Coulson, Skye and SImmons decided to go and get them.

    As for the leaving SHIELD, i disagree also. If he doesn't like the way SHIELD works he should just leave. Yes it shouldn't be a dictatorship, but SHIELD is also the only organization that can protect Earth from that kind of threads. Also let me remind you that he is mad that they went after Hydra, to me that was a logical way of doing that. If Mack has a problem with going after Hydra he shouldn't be in there, he is mad because they went after Hydra, but Hydra is a very bad organization which will kill a lot of people and they have to stop it.

    And as for conclusion Mack is acting like a newbie, not trained Agent of SHIELD, if Mack is trained agent he should know that sometimes people die and there is no one to blame other than the bad guys which made that threat possible.

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  141. Alex Forrest3 March 2015 at 17:25

    I don't work for Disney, Marvel or ABC so obviously I can't be 100% positive about stuff like this. However, as far as I can tell AoS is safe. I wish I could say the same about Agent Carter, but not only are its ratings lower than AoS', it's not as important to the MCU so I don't think Disney will be up in arms about it getting cancelled. AoS, though, is the flagship TV series of the MCU. It's too important to the storyline, and it would make Marvel look bad if it was cancelled after only 2 seasons. I think the ratings would have to sink a lot more for AoS to be on the chopping block.

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  142. sparky423 March 2015 at 17:37

    I also think when you look at the 75th special they did last year, they made the point that AoS is there to tell more of the stories that can't be movies. That along with them stating that they don't want to do anymore "origin story" bits in the movies, it does point to them wanting to use AoS as that vehicle, prime example handing the Inhumans to AoS.

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  143. Anna Bender3 March 2015 at 19:15

    Me too. It's a shame. I'll have to get up early.

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  144. sparky423 March 2015 at 19:26

    I'm debating with myself getting up early before work to watch it online, not sure I could wait until this time tomorrow here...

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  145. Anna Bender3 March 2015 at 19:29

    You've a good point, but the chance that it would be abused is at 90 %. The Human race has the liability to control things they don't understand and are afraid of (a real life example would be the NSA).
    People without powers are equally a danger to others, Ward for example is very dangerous 'cause of his skill set or Skye's father, who is very very dangerous in his madness.

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  146. Alex Forrest3 March 2015 at 19:58

    Agreed, I really like how they can use AoS to explore the corners of the MCU that the movies don't have time for, since they have to focus on the A-plots and big-scale action. Winter Soldier basically scratched the surface of the Hydra storyline, we got to see a lot more of it on the show. And now the Inhumans set-up. The show is an asset to the MCU in that sense. I do wish something could be done to improve its ratings, but unless they absolutely collapse, I still think its ultimate value to Marvel outweighs the cost.

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  147. Anna Bender3 March 2015 at 20:08

    I'm sick at the moment so I don't have to work tomorrow...I'll shut down my twitter so I won't get spoiled and I'll get up early so I'll be at the same time like the west coast.

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  148. sparky423 March 2015 at 20:08

    True, you get much more of a sense of the scale of the threat. Just for example when Hill was on in Season 1 and basically said "After TWS, HYDRA is done". Whereas we see that's not even true, that HYDRA has an established base, Command and Control and combat forces. It adds depth to the MCU that even a 2 hour movie can't.

    For example I like the comments from the Showrunners that because of AoS we won't get a 3-5 minute montage on learning to use her powers, we will get to see her dealing with that and everyone else dealing with it as well.

    As for figures, who knows, but given the warchest Marvel has I think/hope as long as they are willing to commit the funds it will be around.

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  149. sparky423 March 2015 at 21:37

    The showrunners have made it clear in interviews that it's Skye, her father calls her Daisy but she doesn't identify with that name.

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  150. ivan3 March 2015 at 21:51

    because it's her name and you should respect that

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  151. ivan3 March 2015 at 22:26

    Ward's not dangerous to Skye, but yeah just because someone's human doesn't make them any less dangerous maybe more

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  152. Anna Bender3 March 2015 at 22:27

    I agree completely. I wonder how the state of play will be when Ward and Skye will cross path again. And how he'll react when he'll find out what happend to her.

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  153. Historical_Materialist3 March 2015 at 22:27

    Daisy is just a character on a tv show. Let's not forget that.

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  154. FK95 March 2015 at 04:38

    Ward doesn't have to perform a critical function on the team since he's not on the team anymore. And he's far more interesting that way IMO.

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  155. FK95 March 2015 at 05:04

    And they didn't try to develop Trip at all. That's the point. You may not like Hunter, but you can't deny that at least the character is doing things, is involved in storylines, etc. Trip wasn't; Trip was just there and that's it. They could phase him right out for dramatic effect and not really lose anything as far as critical personnel are concerned. That's why Trip was expendable and Hunter isn't.

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