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Arrow - Episode 3.15 - Nanda Parbat - Producers Preview

24 Feb 2015

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94 comments:

  1. justtobesane24 February 2015 at 02:34

    Literally everything Oliver does this season annoys me...

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  2. arrowshieldfan24 February 2015 at 02:38

    the question still remains why Oliver is going to save Malcolm......

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  3. So Contagious24 February 2015 at 02:45

    You realize that twist happened like five episodes ago, and that's pretty much the only major twist that's happened since then - unless you count telling Thea, which wasn't really a twist since they telegraphed it long before it happened? That's like saying "This episode is going to have the biggest romantic Olicity moment since we found out Oliver first saw Felicity before he came back to Starling." It's undeniably true because that other romantic moment just happened. Any romantic moment would count, because it's the first one to happen since the last romantic moment. It wins by default.


    Now if he said it was the most surprising twist this season INCLUDING when we stabbed Oliver through the chest and kicked him off a mountain, that would imply something more interesting. As it is, he's just stated a fact in a dramatic way.


    This may be nitpicking - actually, it's probably nitpicking - but honestly, the way he phrased it made me face palm hard.

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  4. MeatyStakes24 February 2015 at 02:49

    Pray the gods that the twist is Tommy being alive

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  5. ohlisa24 February 2015 at 02:52

    He must be worried that Malcolm will show Ra's the video of Thea killing Sara to save himself or something. Otherwise I've got nothing.

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  6. *A*24 February 2015 at 02:53

    Pray that the twist is either Malcolm is Oliver's father too or Sara is actually alive via the Lazarus Pit.

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  7. ohlisa24 February 2015 at 02:57

    Possible twists:
    *Thea shows up in Nanda Parbat and kills Malcolm herself (does he get Lazarus Pitted?)
    *Thea shows up in Nanda Parbat, strolls into the place and reveals that she's met Ra's before
    *Some combination of the above
    *Oliver does something stupid, anything is possible at this point
    *Zombie Tommy strolls in and unleashes hell

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  8. JustGotLittUp24 February 2015 at 02:58

    I hope they kill off Merlyn (which I'm sure this will get a lot of downvotes for), because damn, Arrow's thirst to make Merlyn relevant is just making Oliver look ridiculously stupid.


    I hope Oliver's reasoning is justified. But after watching this, I really doubt it.

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  9. CutePoison24 February 2015 at 03:03

    I have been hoping for this twist all season. I wish so badly it would happen, but I don't think it'll happen.

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  10. arrowshieldfan24 February 2015 at 03:04

    let dead people stay dead.....

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  11. AnnoDomini24 February 2015 at 03:18

    Zombie Tommy. I so want that; gashes and guts hanging out.

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  12. ragul24 February 2015 at 03:23

    i somehow think we r gonna see the downfall of green hood to vigilante from season 1.oliver making rash decisions here and there. god knows what malcolm is upto. and i heard in an aftershow that "we might see sara coming back from lazarus pitt"

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  13. MurderMondays24 February 2015 at 03:38

    Just Oliver? I can't think of a single character that hasn't annoyed me this season.

    I actually miss the days when I could just roll my eyes at Laurel and then enjoy the rest of the show.

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  14. Bruce_F24 February 2015 at 03:38

    I don't care about the twist. I just want this show to start making sense again.

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  15. justtobesane24 February 2015 at 03:40

    Oliver is the worst offender though, I'm very sad to say.

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  16. ohlisa24 February 2015 at 03:51

    Sadly, I think all the excitement about the 'twist' probably guarantees that's not about to happen anytime soon.

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  17. mag24 February 2015 at 03:51

    I miss season 1 Oliver, I want him back!

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  18. Bruce_F24 February 2015 at 03:57

    Probably. All I know for sure is that this Thea-Merlyn plot is exactly the show-killer I thought it would be when she left with him in last season's finale.

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  19. Graydon24 February 2015 at 03:59

    I do love that of all people Diggle has Oliver's back.

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  20. Graydon24 February 2015 at 04:00

    Yeah what with Tommy's super effective fighting ability.

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  21. arrowshieldfan24 February 2015 at 04:00

    he will follow his leader his captain

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  22. JustGotLittUp24 February 2015 at 04:02

    I was a bit upset that Diggle only enters the field in stupid missions... But the fact that he has Oliver's back (because he doesn't want to lose him this time) makes up for all that. Diggle will do anything to save Oliver and I think that's what makes him a great confidante to Oliver.

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  23. Graydon24 February 2015 at 04:05

    There's gotta be some plan or intention. I'm betting it's to stop Merlyn from using that video of Thea in attempt to free himself. Or to do that whole if we can't save Merlyn i'll sacrifice myself so he won't shaft Thea bit. There has to be a good reason. Especially considering the next episode is called The Offer. Honestly it's probably to just keep Ra's away from Starling and Thea.

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  24. katakombs24 February 2015 at 04:14

    I think Oliver didn't want Thea to be the one responsible for Ra's killing Malcolm because she might hate herself later for it.

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  25. JustGotLittUp24 February 2015 at 04:30

    It's still kind of stupid because Oliver is risking his life. If he dies for Thea, then she'll feel 100000x worse. Logic isn't Oliver's strong suit imo

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  26. O D A24 February 2015 at 04:38

    Why do I have the feeling there is a zombie Tommy or zombie Sara twist coming up?

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  27. ohlisa24 February 2015 at 04:43

    Hey, if he was Lazarus Pitted and has been undead in Nanda Parbat for a while, anything's possible!

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  28. ohlisa24 February 2015 at 04:45

    Ugh, all of this removal of Thea's agency is so gross this season. I really hope that's not what Oliver goes there for, although it's incredibly stupid so that's a possibility. I hope if he does that, Thea shows up in Nanda Parbat and kills Malcolm anyway.

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  29. katakombs24 February 2015 at 05:04

    I don't love it, but at least it makes some sense, which I can't say for Laurel's sudden rise to competent fighter.

    Trying to fit all these comic book figures -- the Atom, Ra's, Black Canary, Dark Archer, proto-Speedy -- has been what's killing the show for me.

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  30. ragul24 February 2015 at 05:04

    i m expecting sara come back from lazarus pitt

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  31. Bruce_F24 February 2015 at 05:09

    I haven't seen Laurel be all that competent. All she has done so far is fight random thugs. On average, most of those goons likely have less training than she does. It's really not that impressive.


    As for the glut of characters, they don't fitting them all in during every episode. They only spotlight a few at a time so I haven't found it disruptive at all.


    Plot and character motivation are my only major concerns this season.

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  32. ivan24 February 2015 at 05:18

    OLIVER QUEEN WHAT IN THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  33. ragul24 February 2015 at 05:20

    i think he left his brain in that village after the dual with ra's

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  34. Shannon24 February 2015 at 05:44

    I'm just glad Oliver and Diggle are in this together. That's all I care about right now.

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  35. Spindae224 February 2015 at 06:05

    Hoping for some good stuff!

    https://twitter.com/NatalieAbrams/status/570001631913349120

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  36. arrowshieldfan24 February 2015 at 06:12

    hmm very interesting tease.......I guess there is more than one twist?

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  37. MeatyStakes24 February 2015 at 07:17

    The dead can rest when we are not in an universe were there's a Lazarus Pit

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  38. MeatyStakes24 February 2015 at 07:18

    We are partners in this despair

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  39. Koky24 February 2015 at 07:35

    I'm getting really tired of this dance. Oliver makes a dumb decision regarding Malcolm. People get angry and yell at him. Oliver is hurt. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!
    "Surprise is our only advantage" oops got too cocky there Oliver lol

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  40. Koky24 February 2015 at 07:39

    I was thinking the same thing.

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  41. Koky24 February 2015 at 07:40

    Yeah the world makes sense again.

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  42. Koky24 February 2015 at 07:42

    Oliver: Kill me!
    Ra's: I can't. I'm your father.

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  43. Koky24 February 2015 at 07:43

    Ah the good old days.

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  44. Koky24 February 2015 at 07:45

    Because he wants to save Thea's soul. smh

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  45. Spindae224 February 2015 at 08:05

    If I hope it is Tommy.
    Honestly got a feeling that this was all a set up and that Oliver and Malcolm need something lut of Nanda Parbat. Maybe take Nyssa hostage or stuff. Truth to be told this whole set up. smells shitty.

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  46. adjective24 February 2015 at 08:25

    Yeah I noticed he said "since they stabbed Oliver and kicked him off a cliff" and was confused about that too, since I don't think the episodes since then have even had cliffhangers. I think Stephen Amell says in his interview that it's one of the best cliffhangers ever, though. So maybe it was just a poor choice of wording in this preview

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  47. adjective24 February 2015 at 08:31

    I agree. The Tommy flashbacks were great but it made me miss him a lot. Plus I wish he would've stayed alive long enough to get to know Diggle and Felicity, realize that Sara was still alive and find out about Thea being his actual (half) sister.

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  48. O D A24 February 2015 at 10:35

    I hope it is zombie Sara. I am not a Tommy fan. I loved him after he died lol. He annoyed me with Laurel in season 1. Anyway whoever it is coming out of the pit is going to be twisted in the head. Who ever it is Laurel will have one more thing to be sad about. If it is Sara Quentin will have some amazing scenes.

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  49. O D A24 February 2015 at 10:36

    Me too

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  50. O D A24 February 2015 at 10:37

    Ra's offering Oliver to join the league won't be a surprise. What else can it be?

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  51. Juliana24 February 2015 at 12:19

    I'm not even going to pretend to understand why would Oliver rescue Malcolm... It's beyond stupid, but this dynamic you describe it's annoying and it got old really quickly.

    I miss people trusting Oliver and I miss him being smart about things and most of all I freaking miss killer Oliver from season 1. Just put an arrow on Malcolm, for the love of God.

    The second half of the season is a big miss for me and surprisingly it's not because of the Olicity downfall or BC storyline. This 'let's be friends with Malcolm' nonsense is really rubbing me the wrong way.

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  52. Koky24 February 2015 at 12:29

    I don't miss killer Oliver. I do however miss the smart rational hero and leader who used to protect innocent people and not mass murderers. Remember when the team used to listen to each other and work together and not fight every episode while everyone is making decisions on their own? Also remember when Dig was relevant to the story? Yeah me neither.

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  53. Spindae224 February 2015 at 12:31

    Got a feeling they want to write out Quentin this season. Maybe leave with Mama Smoak but maybe I just halucinate.
    I just hope for a reasonable twist.

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  54. Juliana24 February 2015 at 14:05

    Anything is better than this current Oliver. I'm not hating on him, I love Oliver, he's my favorite character and that's why is so painful to watch him being Malcolm Merlyn's puppet.
    The team's dynamic is all over the place, I get that he was gone, but suddenly it seems like no one respects him. They're not Team Arrow anymore, they're The Shady Bunch.

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  55. maclives24 February 2015 at 16:40

    Merlyn is SO going to die

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  56. maclives24 February 2015 at 16:41

    Merlyn dies

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  57. maclives24 February 2015 at 16:41

    someones neck is getting snapped

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  58. maclives24 February 2015 at 16:42

    I hate how everyone wants Merlyn dead :(

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  59. bova24 February 2015 at 16:42

    is it possible that they are going to make Oliver as big bad for the rest of the season?

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  60. Spindae224 February 2015 at 16:48

    But who? Looking at Diggs wedding pics all the mains are there.
    Tomorrow is to far away! :-(

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  61. Koky24 February 2015 at 16:58

    It must be tough but I wouldn't worry too much; they LOVE JB. They didn't make him regular to kill him in episode 15. He's not going anywhere.

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  62. Koky24 February 2015 at 17:02

    I'm not hating on Oliver. I'm hating on the writers for what they're doing to my hero :(

    I get that they took ownership of the crusade and that Oliver doesn't get to make decisions solely anymore but that doesn't mean "let's all yell at him and be mean to him. How dare he say anything after he dared to die for two weeks!".

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  63. Juliana24 February 2015 at 17:04

    I know you're not, don't worry! I'm in the same page, I think it's terrible what they're doing to him.

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  64. Koky24 February 2015 at 17:06

    I want my baby back :( OLIVERRRRRRRR WHAT HAVE THEY DONE TO YOU????

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  65. maclives24 February 2015 at 17:09

    Merlyn

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  66. Spindae224 February 2015 at 17:17

    Doubtful but wouldn't be surprised if Ra wanted to purify him by killing and bringing him back, Lazarus pit style. But who knows.

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  67. Koky24 February 2015 at 17:27

    I think she says AlSaher.

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  68. Mercy24 February 2015 at 17:28

    ah ok, thanks.


    my gues Ra's is Felicits father ;-)

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  69. maclives24 February 2015 at 17:30

    Doubt that they`ll use the Lazarus Pit on Arrow. I could see them use it on The Flash though. Since Arrow is trying hard to stay out of the powers thing


    And I REALLY don't want Merlyn to die

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  70. Koky24 February 2015 at 17:31

    Anytime :D
    Or Oliver's hahahahahaha

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  71. maclives24 February 2015 at 17:32

    it would be a shocking twist though, I really hope you're right though. Because out of the entire season (wich I do consider a bit messy) Barrowman was saving it

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  72. Koky24 February 2015 at 17:32

    Or Roy's! Ra's is Roy Harper Sr. lol

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  73. maclives24 February 2015 at 17:32

    Felicity Al SpecialSnowflake

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  74. Koky24 February 2015 at 17:39

    Agree to disagree (not on the messy part). JB is a strong actor but Malcolm was so not my favourite part of this season.

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  75. Pablo Troncoso24 February 2015 at 17:52

    I really don't understand this storyline decision. I'm with Thea, Laurel and Felicity on this one, why the hell would he rescue Malcom? Ra's kills him, say he killed Sarah, everybody wins.
    Seriously, I'll need a well elaborated explanation for this

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  76. Pablo Troncoso24 February 2015 at 17:55

    So far Oliver's choices have made some slight sense to me, but this is a new low. I really need a well elaborated justification or I'm going to be incredibly pissed by the sloppy writting here

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  77. Koky24 February 2015 at 18:07

    I have a very important question. Is Malcolm still spying on the team?

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  78. O D A24 February 2015 at 19:38

    No way. I am frustrated with the current story line and I want Oliver to revert back to who we know again but I don't want Malcolm to die. I want him to suffer and be locked up or given up to LoA by the end of the season. Then I want him back again next season with more twisted but better understandable plot. My simple mind still don't understand why Malcolm did the things the way he did.

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  79. O D A24 February 2015 at 19:45

    I hope not. He is the only parental figure on the show now that Moira is gone. I don't want to loose him. Malcolm does not count as he is a villain.

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  80. Spindae224 February 2015 at 19:50

    I know. I would hate to loose him, but just got that feeling that this story will lead to his starling exit.
    I assume they would introduce new Police thingy nezt season DC universe connected.

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  81. Koky24 February 2015 at 19:52

    Because he's an evil twisted selfish sob who only looks out for himself.

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  82. maclives24 February 2015 at 19:59

    I'm frustrated with the entire season right now, the storyline is convoluted, I grew from just hating Olicity to hating Felicity (sorry but she's become some kind of a beach IMO), the plots make no sense and the show feels to have lost its direction.
    Merlyn was saving it for me purely through his presence, yes, bland-ish fanboy thoughts kept me entertained while the show went down the drain.


    I agree, I want him locked up and suddenly reappearing in 4*02 with a villainous scheme or part of a villainous group

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  83. JustGotLittUp24 February 2015 at 22:41

    Sorry, friend :/

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  84. Phoenix0725 February 2015 at 00:54

    Completely agree with you. But I feel like anything they come up with as a reasoning for rescuing Malcolm will still be ridiculous. There's nothing they can tell me at this point that will make me go "Oh yeah, that makes SO much sense, go rescue him!" Honestly, Thea is a big girl. If she has no qualms about turning him in to the League, then Oliver should just back off and agree with it, especially when literally EVERYONE in Team Arrow agrees that saving Malcolm is crazy. And you know it's bad when even Laurel is making more sense than Oliver.

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  85. katakombs25 February 2015 at 04:22

    I'm missing the original Team Arrow of Oliver/Diggle/Felicity. Nothing else seems as much fun.

    Every time someone asks Marc Guggenheim for them back, he says the show has to move on. I disagree, I could accept Laurel as the new Black Canary, or Ray and his suit, or even the ridiculous plot of Oliver believing he has to join up with Malcolm to defeat Ras, if I could just get some good O/D/F scenes again.

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  86. O D A25 February 2015 at 10:19

    The whole season is convoluted. From season 2 finale when Thea left with Malcolm till now, the twisted plot of Sara's death, Oliver's decisions whenever Malcolm is around, Laurel becoming BC this soon yet we are not shown her training more to be better, badly done Olicity angst more than that badly done Ray Palmer. Everything is convoluted.


    I love Felicity. She speaks the words I want to say to Oliver about Malcolm. I want to punch Oliver every time Malcolm is on screen. So if Malcolm leaving will help me love my hero back I want him gone. Sorry. I think depends on whose fans we are we will enjoy their scenes how much they not make sense.


    I hope from ep. 15 onwards the show gets some new life.


    Skiing!! Never done before. Enjoy!!

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  87. O D A25 February 2015 at 10:20

    I know. But I don't want him to die. Let him be put in prison and he can come back in later seasons.

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  88. Koky25 February 2015 at 10:54

    "No prison can hold him"

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  89. O D A25 February 2015 at 16:16

    Why don't we send him to Sleepy Hollow? If they can put headless horseman in chains then they can definitely hold Malcolm. We just have to keep Katrina away from him.

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  90. Koky25 February 2015 at 16:24

    Sorry I can't Reply. I'm busy imagining him in purgatory (the non-island one).

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  91. O D A25 February 2015 at 17:16

    LMAO... But we can get people in and out of purgatory too :D

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  92. Koky25 February 2015 at 17:19

    Yhe key was destroyed after Ichabod got Abbie back remember? Muahaha

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  93. O D A25 February 2015 at 19:31

    Oh! I forgot about that. Nah.. We can't send Malcolm there now.We need his brand of crazy once in a while.

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  94. Ron25 February 2015 at 20:10

    I bet that ending is Thea killing Merlyn. It has to be. i cant see another big twist.

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