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CW Midseason Premiere Dates Announced

12 Jan 2015

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THE CW NETWORK SETS 2015 MIDSEASON SCHEDULE AND NEW SERIES PREMIERE DATES

New Series iZOMBIE Premieres Tuesday, March 17, at 9 PM

Supernatural Returns to Wednesdays at 9PM Beginning March 18

New Competition Series CEDRIC’S BARBER BATTLE Debuts Friday, April 10, at 8 PM
Followed by A New Cycle of WHOSE LINE IS IT ANYWAY? at 8:30 PM
And The Series Premiere of New Drama THE MESSENGERS at 9 PM

January 11, 2015 (Pasadena, CA) – The CW announced its midseason schedule today at the winter gathering of the Television Critics Association in Pasadena, CA, including the series premieres of new dramas iZOMBIE and THE MESSENGERS, the new unscripted competition series CEDRIC’S BARBER BATTLE and a new cycle of WHOSE LINE IS IT ANYWAY?.

From executive producer Rob Thomas (“Veronica Mars”), iZOMBIE makes its series debut on Tuesday, March 17, (9:00-10:00pm ET), following an all-new episode of THE FLASH (8:00-9:00pm ET). Rose McIver (“Masters of Sex,” “Once Upon A Time”) stars as Olivia “Liv” Moore, a rosy-cheeked, disciplined, over-achieving medical resident who had her life path completely mapped out… until the night she attended a party that unexpectedly turned into a zombie feeding frenzy. As one of the newly undead, Liv has devised a way to resist her baser urges to devour fresh human brains – she’s taken a job in the Seattle coroner’s office. In this appropriately dead-end job, she can secretly snack on the brains of the many Jane and John Doe corpses that make a final stop in the morgue. Liv remains resigned to an eternity without hope or purpose, until she realizes that with every brain she consumes, she retains a portion of that person’s memories, and she begins to experience visions from the point of view of the murder victims. It’s not the same as being alive again, but at least she can find purpose in her undead existence by helping to solve the murders of those who are indeed fully dead.

With iZOMBIE on Tuesdays, the Winchester brothers move to their new night as Supernatural returns to Wednesdays, beginning March 18, 9:00-10:00pm ET, the week after THE 100 concludes its second season on Wednesday, March 11, 9:00-10:00pm ET.

On Friday, April 10, The CW presents the series premiere of its apocalyptic new drama THE MESSENGERS (9:00-10:00pm ET). When a mysterious object plummets to Earth, the blinding explosion it causes sends out a shock wave that instantly connects five strangers who awaken after the pulse with extraordinary gifts they can barely believe. Most mysterious of all is a figure known only as The Man, who brings death and suffering wherever he appears. The wheels of Revelation have begun to turn, and these five newly christened Angels of the Apocalypse may be the only hope for preventing the impending Rapture.
That same night, The CW will debut its new reality competition series CEDRIC’S BARBER BATTLE (8:00-8:30pm ET), hosted by Cedric the Entertainer, followed by a brand new season of the hit improv comedy series WHOSE LINE IS IT ANYWAY? (8:30-9:00pm ET). The new series CEDRIC’S BARBER BATTLE sets out to capture the culture that exists in barbering communities across the country. Each week, the show will visit different barbershops in cities, including Los Angeles, Queens, Harlem and Austin, where the best barbers will go head-to-head in a hilariously unfiltered, no-holds-barred arena. Creating hair sculptures that feature elaborate designs ranging from images of a person’s face to grand cityscapes, the barbers will use nothing more than their clippers and a few coloring tools to create intricate works of art that are both imaginative and location-centric.

Following is The CW’s midseason premiere schedule:

Wednesday, March 11
8:00-9:00pm “Arrow”
9:00-10:00pm “The 100” (Season Finale)

Tuesday, March 17
8:00-9:00pm “The Flash”
9:00-10:00pm “iZombie” (Series Premiere)

Wednesday, March 18
8:00-9:00pm "Arrow"
9:00-10:00pm "Supernatural" (New Night)


Friday, April 10
8:00-8:30pm “Cedric’s Barber Battle” (Series Premiere)
8:30-9:00pm “Whose Line is it Anyway?” (Cycle Premiere)
9:00-10:00pm “The Messengers” (Series Premiere)

All Times ET

iZOMBIE stars Rose McIver (“Masters of Sex,” “Once Upon A Time”), Malcolm Goodwin (“Breakout Kings”), newcomer Rahul Kohli, Robert Buckley (“One Tree Hill”) and David Anders (“Once Upon A Time,” “The Vampire Diaries”). Based upon characters created by Chris Roberson and Michael Allred, and published by DC Entertainment’s Vertigo imprint, iZOMBIE is from Bonanza Productions Inc. in association with Spondoolie Productions and Warner Bros. Television, with executive producers Rob Thomas (“Veronica Mars,” “Party Down,” “Cupid”), Diane Ruggiero-Wright (“Veronica Mars,” “The Ex List,” “That’s Life”), Danielle Stokdyk (“Veronica Mars,” “Party Down,” “Cupid”) and Dan Etheridge (“The Carrie Diaries,” “Veronica Mars,” “Party Down”).

CEDRIC’S BARBER BATTLE is produced by Big Energy Productions. It's hosted by actor and comedian Cedric the Entertainer (“The Soul Man,” “The Original Kings of Comedy”), who also serves as executive producer, along with Mark Efman (“Charlamagne & Friends,” “Z Rock,” “Nick Cannon's Short Circuitz”).

THE MESSENGERS stars Shantel VanSanten (“Gang Related,” “One Tree Hill”), Jon Fletcher (“City of Dreams”), Sofia Black-D’Elia (“Betrayal,” “Gossip Girl”), JD Pardo (“Revolution”), Joel Courtney (“Super 8”), Anna Diop (“Everybody Hates Chris”), Craig Frank (“Mixology”) and Diogo Morgado (“Son of God,” “Sol de Inverno”). THE MESSENGERS is produced by CBS Television Studios and Warner Bros. Entertainment, in association with Thunder Road Pictures with executive producers Trey Callaway (“Revolution,” “CSI: NY”), Basil Iwanyk (“The Town,” “The Expendables” film franchise, “Clash of the Titans” film franchise) and co-executive producers Eoghan O’Donnell (“Teen Wolf”), Kent Kubena (the upcoming “Gods of Egypt,” “Turistas”) and Ava Jamshidi.

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205 comments:

  1. No I feel good for izombie but bad for the messengers!!!

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  2. Great for iZombie


    But poor TM, it is pretty much dead already

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  3. Oh thank God SPN's moving away from SHIELD (but SHIELD needs a new night next season to get it away from the NCISes). Poor Messengers premiering in the Friday night death slot, though.

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  4. I hope that Supernatural's ratings don't crash after the move, but I always thought that the Arrow/Supernatural pairing worked well. Not happy about Friday debut for The Messengers though.

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  5. Finally it's here!Thank God!

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  6. The Messengers is doomed on Friday.
    I was all for getting iZombie the post-Flash slot, but why did they have to screw over The Messengers.
    Thiis would have been better , IMO
    Reign to Fridays
    Supernatural to Thursdays
    iZombie on Tuesdays
    The Messengers on Wednesdays

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  7. I certainly did not.

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  8. Jane and Reign seem to have better renewal chances now ... if they would want to cancel them, they would change time slot with The Messengers ... also with TM/BatB both CBS shows getting cancelled, they could keep the other 2 CBS around - Jane/Reign (TM could surprise us of course, but it will be hard with that time slot)

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  9. I was looking forward to The Messengers but since The 100 is competing with it (and iZombie but I've no interest in that) I won't watch it unless both are renewed :P Real shame it's on Friday though what's with that? I was sure it would take The 100's spot when it finishes

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  10. Poor The messengers,clearly Cw doesn't have any confidence in this show.It's going to be DOA.Great for iZombie though!
    Another move for SPN,well AoS was hurting it a bit & if anyone can survive a random move mid-season on CW,it's SPN.It's rock solid as far as the ratings are concerned,i wouldn't worry about them one bit!

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  11. Maybe we will finally get some trailers now??

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  12. Look at it this way: At least SPN wasn't sent back to the Friday night death slot (but poor Messengers).

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  13. I sure hope so!

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  14. ITA.I knew when Jane got the GG nom(& if it wins), it wouldn't be moved to fri and I agree that Jane & Reign will be the CBS shows that survive this season..I am a bit suprised Reign didn't move to Fri but VD no help as a leadin anymore so it makes sense it stayed and I've belived Reign Reign would stay put at first because Czw didn't premire Jane or IZombie after VD in fall when VD would be better ratings wise.

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  15. I wouldn't be too worried about Supernatural. If the show's proved anything over the last couple years, it's that its fans will watch the show no matter where it lands on the schedule.

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  16. Wait so the schedule will be
    Mon TO Jane
    Tues Flash IZombie
    We'd Arrow SPN
    Thurs VD Reign
    Fri HoD./ Messengers?
    What are they thinking premiring Messengers on Fri? dOA for sure.Im glad Reigns not moving to Fri though

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  17. Updated with press release. Refresh to check the full schedule.

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  18. HOD will finish it's 10 ep run by April 10th.

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  19. Nice killing of The Messengers, CW. Even if I didn't like the pilot, that's just harsh on the show to premiere it there.

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  20. Yeah,it'll finish by March 20 if they don't take any breaks.I only out that there cause I wasn't sure what would be paired with Messengers

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  21. Just circled March 17th in the old calendar. Can't wait for "iZombie".

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  22. Yay yay yay iZombie! So deserves a great timeslot. Do me proud!

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  23. There's no other night for SHIELD to move, though. It'd get clobbered on Sundays (why put your most male-skewing show against football?), there's no room on Tuesdays, it's not a 10:00 show so Wednesdays are out, Thursdays are full, and Fridays would cause too much of a ratings hit.

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  24. They figured Messengers was going to crash and burn. And judging from that pilot, I don't blame them for thinking so.

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  25. Refresh the page. They revealed that Cedric show and Whose the line will be the Messengers lead in and premier the same day.

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  26. Plus with Scandal and Blacklist coming, they'd rather have a known quantity vs. risking a more successful show or putting something new behind Vampire Diaries.

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  27. yeah I saw that

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  28. After this schedule, my cancellation predictions :


    HoD
    BatB
    The Messengers


    4th one will be hard, since Jane/Reign could be safe as last CBS shows ... i am afraid for The 100

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  29. The Messengers finished shooting before new year, so they most likely saw the whole season before making a decision.

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  30. It depends on what fails11 January 2015 at 16:46

    2 CBS, 2 Warner, sorry The 100 fans, it doesn't look good.

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  31. exactly, putting a new female sjpkewing IZombie against Scadal/Blacklst, the new show would get clobbered

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  32. It depends on what fails11 January 2015 at 16:48

    Terrible schedule.


    Supernatural move - to the wrong day, should've moved to thursdays
    iZombie after Flash - I would have done that too.
    The Messengers - well, they had a free timeslot, decided to put supernatural there, so...

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  33. Not a single mention of BATB? That's a first.

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  34. This was my scheedule, too.

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  35. This makes me so angry. I hope Reign does multiple 0.3 in the spring.

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  36. The Messengers was a horrible, incomprehensible pilot that *might've* only got sampled for its first episode. (And that's assuming The CW gives a damn about it, which it obviously doesn't given the scheduling and the fact that only one episode was sent for review.) I'll cackle when it becomes this season's Cult.

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  37. I'm happy that iZombie will get the post Flash spot but why the hell did CW dump The Messengers to Friday?! Ugh, this makes absolutely no sense.

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  38. The Messengers is already dead :(

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  39. It was not horrible at all.

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  40. Revenge and OUAT11 January 2015 at 16:52

    Really bad schedule. Obviously they have no faith in the messengers. I guess reign is dead which may be good news for the 100 :)

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  41. Reign is not dead, if it was it would be sent to Friday
    Exactly the opposite is happening, Reign's chances just went much higher than before

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  42. They did all this to protect Reign.

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  43. Wow, CW never fail to surprise. So they move SPN (as expected) after 2nd best lead in (not expected at all). Why? Just because the spot becomes free? If they wanted to make minimal changes SPN had a choice of Fridays and Wednesdays. I guess CW have more faith in old SPN then new Messengers. RIP Messengers.
    I hope iZombie will be another hit for CW, and lets see how Flash will help.

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  44. Reign is not dead.Reign,Jane will both Likley be renewed and be the only CBD shows that survive.Reigns halfway to syndication and cheap to produce and doing better ratings in season two than BatB did.BatB,Messengers will be cancelled along with HoD and either IZombie to The 100 as the two last WB shows.The fact Reign stayed put is a vote of confidence for it by CW rather than it being moved to Fri,

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  45. How many times will they keep moving SuperNatural? Wednesdays, then Fridays then Tuesdays then back to Wednesdays.


    I'm not watching any of those other shows. Just TO, Reign, SuperNatural, TVD, The Flash, Arrow, and The 100 for me. I was going to give Messengers a try but now that its Fridays, not a chance.

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  46. Come on Babar! U're better than that. Reign fought hard for it's slot.

    I'm probably way to optimistic but The Messengers could survives this. I mean Fridays are tricky but maybe they surprise us and survive cause there isn't huge competition. The only thing I would wish for the show but is unlikely to happen is that it gets a post Flash premier. That iZombie goes on a break and The Messengers get a chance.

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  47. He is obviously trolling! He is commenting every TM post, telling how bad it is. Shouldn't even pay attention.

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  48. No way that happens. The Messengers is this season's sacrificial lamb, which is weird since it is produced by CBS.

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  49. Can I ask a question, having not seen the pilot? Where did all this pre-buzz for "The Messengers" come from? Is the pilot that good? The cast? The creative team?

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  50. It will go against Grimm (if I remember correctly Grimm moves to 9pm midseason). That's not good for TM at all.

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  51. I think it a really different show compared to everything that has been airing on CW lately.

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  52. If they promote iZombie very good, with this time slot it could be a huge hit for CW, i think it could be getting those 1.0 ratings

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  53. It gets the same buzz as The 100 did: both are different from the usual CW show.

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  54. The 100 is competing with Midseason shows especially mainly IZombie which is WB not CBS s Reign

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  55. Probably just like Star-Crossed last season, but hope dies last! ;-)

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  56. I'm not sure how this indicates Reign as being dead? Seems to me they would rather make minimal changes to the two lower rated shows Monday and Thursday in order to try and ensure that ratings arent affected. Basically they're protecting Reign and JTV. BTW I think T100 will also be renewed. iZombie is likely to be renewed with a huge lead in like The Flash but the Messengers is DOA.

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  57. ...yeah, but "The 100" has actually been airing, "The Messengers" hasn't even premiered yet.

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  58. Rightly so, its a good show.

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  59. Really? It doesn't sound that different. Supernatural themes, serialized premise, pretty young people, etc.

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  60. I meant pre-airing, The 100 had a great amount of buzz as well.

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  61. I don't think they'll be able to renew all of Reign,Jane,The 100 ,IZombie in addition to VD,SPN,Arrow,Flash and only cancel Messengers,BatB,HoD

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  62. Guess they dont have any faith in the show, so they stick it in a death slot, also they want it to fail so they can keep other shows already on the schedule which they like and are closer to syndication. Makes sense to me.

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  63. Well its 9pm, and against Shield. So I would be so optimistic. It may get 1s for the pilot and then I expect 0.7ish.

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  64. Real mature.

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  65. sheilds not a big hit now and it's more male skewing while IZombie is female skewing

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  66. Wow, CW just kills The Messengers. I have the pilot but haven't gotten around to watching it yet. I don't want to root for though, because I need The 100 to be renewed!!

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  67. Grimm is hitting demos around 1,3-1,4. Don't see that as a big threat. Yes it's the same genre but doesn't have to mean much.

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  68. Nothing was going to do well in that post TVD slot, and look what Reign will be up against Scandal, Blacklist, Mom, TAAM. Reign has been kept in one of the toughest slots of the schedule not just to protect it but because nothing else was going to make it there anyway.

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  69. But then why order it to series in the first place if you're just going to treat it badly?

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  70. As far as moves go moving SPN to Monday or Thursday would have been much worse!
    So much for the mantra "The CW will never premiere a new (scripted) series on Friday Like you said, The CW must have no confidence in TM. I read here and elsewhere that the Pilot for TM was almost completely revamped. Personally, if The CW felt the TM script was so problematic I would have picked up 9.20 Bloodlines ... (the SPN spinoff); with only minimal tweaking I think that Bloodlines could have gone to series. It got a 1.0 in demo - better than episodes on either side.

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  71. he's always had it out for Reign though

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  72. This is what I don't get, they did the exact same thing last year with Star-Crossed. What about the cast? The crew? Why bother with a show if you are going to kill it before it even airs?

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  73. Enough to chop off 0.2-0.3 out of low rated CW's Fridays and make it even lower rated.

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  74. Exactly! You're wasting all of these people's time. So angry right now.

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  75. Reign and JTV are CBS thought oo right, maybe it would be better for CW to keep them and get them to syndication rather than keep trying these CBS shows that dont do well. This way they wont have to worry about having to pick up more CBS produced shows for a while?

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  76. It will be interesting to see how things will develop when Blacklist moves into the slot. Will be a tough battle. But Reign has a solid fanbase.
    I hoped the who wouldn't be moved to Fridays and I'm glad for it. Sad for TM. In my prayers I hoped Jane would be moved to Fridays, Reign to Mondays and TM or iZombie would get the post VD slot. But CW kicked but and surprised us all.

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  77. I'm so disappointed. But the reality is, come spring reign will probably garner more .3's.

    And then if it does get renewed it'll probably be for a 13 episode season 3 for Friday's or summer of next season. BATB 2.0. So really they are giving reign their pity and who really wants pity?! Maybe the messengers becomes a solid Friday option lol.

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  78. I have read quite a few comments claiming The Messengers pilot to be rather poor.

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  79. Maybe they aren't happy how the show played out by season ends and it got to expensive to produce. I still hope some "angelic" Miracle will happen and TM will kick but.

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  80. summer? That will increase its chances of a further renewal for the following summer and give hope to a few other low rated shows I suppose of not just being out right cancelled esp if they have more than one season under their belt?

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  81. I doubr they'd share an audience.

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  82. Yes, I feel you. I was angry when this happened last year and now I'm just beyond furious. I won't be following any new CW shows again - too infuriating to see something with such potential thrown in the trash.

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  83. i already see 2 new photos from iZombie on twitter and they look amazing

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  84. Some people tell its really good others its not that good. But that is always personal perception.
    People/Reviews trashed Reigns pilot but it was more than solid to me.

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  85. Jean Paul (Alexi)11 January 2015 at 17:13

    I love The CW, but really? I can't believe this.
    I agree with the move of Supernatural, since it has its own fanbase and The Flash could help iZombie in a great way. But why wasn't Supernatural moved to Monday?
    Unfortunately, looks like The Messengers could be the Star-Crossed of this season.
    Poor The Messengers. I feel sorry for the gorgeous Shantel VanSanten.
    I wish The Messengers ended surprising us all, but I know it will be really hard.


    I would have done this schedule:

    Mondays
    8 pm The Originals
    9 pm Supernatural

    Tuesdays
    8 pm The Flash
    9 pm iZombie


    Wednesdays
    8 pm Arrow
    9 pmThe Messengers


    Thursday
    8 pm The Vampire Diaries
    9 pm Reign (or Jane the Virgin) - Even though I like the first and I'm very interested in the second, I think The Messengers deserved/deserve a good chance, with Arrow as lead-in.


    Friday
    8 pm Cedric's Barber Battle
    8:30 pm Whose Line Is It Anyway
    9 pm Reign (or Jane the Virgin) - When Hart of Dixie's fourth season is over -

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  86. Revenge and OUAT11 January 2015 at 17:14

    I take it back. I have no idea how to interpret mid season schedules :D

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  87. I knew when Jane got the GG nom despite not great ratings,it wouldn't move to Fri.I hoped too Reign wouldn't move to Fri and part thought it wouldnt

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  88. Yes. This is the schedule I was expecting. CW .. nope - I can't even form a decent response that doesn't include some not so nice language.

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  89. Wasnt CULT on Fridays and it flop really hard?. Why did they do this to The Messengers? i have my hopes for that show. I have no interest in IZombie and Im rooting for The Messenger but on Friday? they are pratically fedding it to the bear

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  90. I don't think "Jane The Virgin" was ever moving. With all the critical acclaim, they want to keep it where it is so more people can find it.

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  91. Cult premired on Tues after HoD and was only on Fri after three weeks of Tues after premiring to 0.3

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  92. Such a shame, The Messengers looked really good. Why on earth did they put Supernatural on a Wednesday should have put the Messengers there.

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  93. Or TM chops of a 0,2-0,3 from Grimm as it gets "boring". Just joking ratings are pretty unpredictable so maybe we'll get surprised.

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  94. Thank you. I thougth it was a friday show D: I only saw it that day

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  95. Wasn't "Cult" also...not good?

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  96. They'll continue to pick up CBS shows even as they try to get Reign & maybe Jane to syndication.

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  97. Guilherme Oliveira11 January 2015 at 17:20

    how do you think spn on wednesday?

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  98. I thought it was good.

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  99. I guess CW has more faith in SPN then TM. Poor SPN in everybody's way. It already got an award of most bounced around show in TV history. I bet it will be moved again next year 9if renewed).

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  100. I didn't watch but the promos it didn't look good to me

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  101. HUGE SHAME! Really can't wait what Pedowitz will say about this at his press!

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  102. Trailer looks so amazing

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  103. Cult was quite good by the end. CW just promoted it in a wrong, they made it about a TV show and it's followers and by the end it turned out to be about how Tv manipulates with people. It was surprisingly refreshing.
    I started watching it cause of Matt Davis but it turned out to be quite interesting.

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  104. I absolutely have no problem seeing Supernatural return to Wednesdays. Weren't they better off on Wednesdays anyways?

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  105. Because they felt SPN would have better ratings /retention out of Arrow than Messengers/IZombie and that combo did very well a couple seasons ago

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  106. iZombie not doing 1,0 would be quite terrible for the show. I mean SPN in it's 10th season is doing 0,9 mostly. But with ratings you can never know.

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  107. Guilherme Oliveira11 January 2015 at 17:30

    Spn will beat arrow

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  108. well expect Arrow,Fladh I don't think any new shows on CW have done 1.0s in a few seasons especially consistently even more so in spring

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  109. Wow, I guess The CW really don't believe in The Messengers.. A Friday debut.. Even Cult got to premiere during mid-week.. And I suppose they officially made B&tB a summer show.

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  110. Grimm has been at 9 pm for the last few years; it's Constantine that's moving to 8pm.

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  111. it's gonna be fun to watch the results the next day tho Scandal has better ratings than The Blacklist maybe TB will steal some of those viewrs. I can only iagine some of the TVbyTheNumbers comments that sre annoying as hells bashing any show except Scandal D:
    TVD is not longer goo to lauch a new show and less with all the competition they have on that day.

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  112. Poor Messengers, starting on Fridays :/. The only good thing about it is that The 100 will have better chances at renewal.
    Izombie will be a hit after Flash; it ha the best CW lead plus the DC brand

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  113. Maybe, but a show that has been going for countless seasons shouldn't really need lead in support, a new show does.

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  114. I expect it to get moved to Mondays next season

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  115. Maybe by some miracle it will do ok on Fridays, but I am not holding my breath.

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  116. Maybe they didn't like the next episodes shot after the pilot..

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  117. That rue but the new shows after Arrow -The 100-haven't done nearly as well as SPN and that's the point of moving shows-hoping the new show does better than what was in the timeslot before

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  118. Same here. I feel bad for the show, but I want to see The 100 renewed so I won't be rootin for it

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  119. if IXmbies a hit,The 100s a goner-both WB.The 100 wasn't competing angsinst CBS shows-Reign,Jane,Messengers-but fellow WB ones

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  120. With "iZombie", they seem to be playing up more of the "From the brains (heh) behind VM" angle than the DC Comics angle. Which is probably for the best since it's supposed to very very different from the comic.

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  121. Jean Paul (Alexi)11 January 2015 at 17:40

    I hope Mark Pedowitz says this (during the press): "We fooled you/We've been hacked, that is not the real midseason schedule."

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  122. Actually it was Tuesdays-Thursdays-Fridays-Wednesdays-Tuesdays and now Wednesdays again. SPN only needs to air on Monday and it will have aired every day of the week

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  123. That's true Supernatural will retain a lot more of Arrow's audience than The 100 has done.

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  124. They obviously have no faith in the messengers... Great news for all the other shows so now all we have to see is how iZombie does

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  125. So now it's HoD,BatB ,Messngers will be cancelled,IZombie vs The 100 for the last renewal,and everything renewed

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  126. Wow The Messengers is DoA...I actually thought the preview I saw looked interesting. I am more interested in this show then izombie.

    I'm good with SPN moving back to Sunday, Flash can totally stand on it's own and SPN isn't lead in dependant. Besides it gets SPN away from Agents of Shield, which is a good thing.

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  127. Jean Paul (Alexi)11 January 2015 at 17:46

    Cw likes to surprise us, so I wouldn't be sure about that.

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  128. Sunday? That's definitely a new night for SPN

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  129. I am-Reign is Batzb 2.0(halfway to syndication,cheap international co production and will be renewed for at least a short third final season-maybe more just depending on pilots,it's spring ratings,how many bubble shows renewed-),TO is improving Mon nights and dong ok for CW standards,VD is still doing deccent for CW and will get a preannounced final season.Jane is CzbS,,cheap to produce and has a PCA win plus a GG nom and great Retrntion it'll be renewed.Flash,Arrow,SPN are hits and will be renewed.Caw supports Reign,Jane and has said more than once they don't want all genre shows anymore do Reign,Jane

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  130. Jean Paul (Alexi)11 January 2015 at 17:52

    I agree, despite the loyal fanbase, moving Supernatural to monday or thursday could have been risky, but I think that if there is Cw series that can do well in the 9 pm slot of monday or thursday, it's called Supernatural. In my dream schedule, moving it to monday would have given to The Messengers the chance of being Arrow's lead out.

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  131. No doubts. Or Fridays, if it would be the last season.

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  132. Then they should man up and cancel it like other networks do.

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  133. I feel bad for the Messengers. No show deserves to die before it's time.


    On the other, much more selfish hand, part of me that's really happy because if the CW has no confidence in this show, it means that my own bubble shows are one step closer to being renewed. Sorry, The Messengers, but if saves The 100 and Jane the Virgin, well. And since iZombie was the show of the two newbies I was most interested in seeing, I'm kinda glad that this is the show getting the death slot.

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  134. seems like my prediction abt the messengers was right. fri slot can be tricky but it cant be much worse than mon slot to be honest.

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  135. Wow, why does The Messengers even premiere if that's the trust they give it. Wouldn't it be hilarious if it actually thrived on Fridays a la Grimm/Blue Bloods?

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  136. Jean Paul (Alexi)11 January 2015 at 17:58

    I'm a fan of Beauty and The Beast and like many other, I really didn't expect to be renewed, yet it was. I can understand why many people think The Messengers is already dead, but there are series that survive despite being aired on fridays. It's very hard, but not impossible.
    Beauty and The Beast has won multiple people's choice awards. I thought you said they don't matter, when it comes to renewals.
    Indeed Jane the Virgin did something great for The Cw, by being the first ever Cw series to bring Golden Globe nominations. I hope Jane the Virgin and Gina Rodriguez win, but even being just nominated meant and mean a lot.


    We'll see what happens :)

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  137. As a SPN fan I kind of very interested in what iZombie can deliver in that timeslot. I wish it does well, but I wouldn't be surprised if it stays 0.7ish after few first episodes. Spring is not very merciful for CW, all frontrunners were doing 0.7-0.8 last year. I hope TF will help, but I still think the lead-in concept is overrated for CW.

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  138. i m positive someone will ask when mark does that q and a anytime now.

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  139. I bet this s a record for any TV show.

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  140. Can't wait for this to unfold ^_^ Think this season will be interesting.

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  141. PCas really don't matter but CW hasn't cancelled a show-especially a new show-that won( Reign,BatB).CW had never premired a new scripted show on Fri and Fri is a hard low rated night for shows especially new shows and more so for CW which skews young and targets young Viewrs that aren't home onFri night to watch tv.CBS Fri do ok cause they attract an older sudience.Grimm is the exception.

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  142. Oh, OK, thanks! Yes, it was at 10, right? My bad.

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  143. I m shocked Messengers got a Fri slot tbh

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  144. I'm optimistic! This was the show I looked most forward to when CW announced its line up, and I was so angry it got shifted to MS.
    Friday is an interesting day, rating and schedule ways. But who knows if TM gets promoted well it could surprise us.

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  145. Jean Paul (Alexi)11 January 2015 at 18:05

    I hope The Messenger will be another exception :) Cw needs to promote it a lot.

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  146. Probably like it did before on Wednesday. Tuesday at 9 is tad bit more competive. Especially with AoS. Because there is definitely some crossover in fans.

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  147. But with such a strong lead, Veronica Mars creator buzz and DC connection this show should get some good ratings. Initially the show should hit around 1,0s. but drop later along.

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  148. I agree it'll do well

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  149. I don't think will.All thier egs are in Fladh,Jane,IZombies basket .sorry.

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  150. The most interesting thing is that there is nothing about Beauty and the Beast. That means they may put it in the summer TV season. So why didn't they kept The Messenger to be along with BATB in stead of putting it on Friday.

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  151. Because 1.BatB is cheap to produce,Messengers isn't isn't and except UTD,Extent summer is for cheap shows 2.BatB is just burning off its three season internally commitment,Messengers isn't .3.BatB isn't new,Messengers is.4.Scrpited show tant in summer for CW so would Messngers.
    5.Caw needed to fill the Fri slot

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  152. It could, we're all making the assumption that it will be DOA based on the Friday time slot but if there is enough interest in the show maybe people will watch it even if it is on Friday?

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  153. doesnt really matter, both rate well

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  154. It was not not good. It was painful to watch.

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  155. That's really not a fair comparison.

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  156. i am seeing tweets that CW renewed everything, is it true?

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  157. AoS averages around a 1.6/1.7? Theres the FOX comedies which struggle in the 1.5 and 1.0 range. The NBC comedies which are around the 1.0 mark and NCIS:NO which is around the 2.3/2.4 mark.


    Wednesday 9pm will now have
    Modern Family around 3.0
    Blackish around 2.3
    FOX's new Empire which is likely to stay above the 3.0 mark barring any disasters.
    SVU around the 1.6/1.7 mark.


    AoS was really the only competition for SPN and there might have been a bit of crossover though if there was SPN's ratings havent really been affected. Not sure how the more young audience competing shows on Wednesday will affect the show but there shouldnt be much crossover. SPN is in no danger anyway. It will end when Jensen wants it to end.

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  158. So, The 100, TM and iZombie are WB shows and everything else is CBS?

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  159. because SPN doesnt deserve to be dumped on Friday?

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  160. Argh poor The Messengers. Midseason shows look so much better than fall shows and now one of put in death spot and already predicted to get cancelled. I'm really disappointed.

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  161. A perverse part of me hopes TM thrives on Fridays and iZombie tanks BIG ;) against SHIELD.
    Nothing to do with SPN's being moved to Wednesday post Arrow - like I said SPN could have been moved to a 'worse slot' (Monday/Thursday/Friday). I don't know enough about either show yet to form an opinion on either new show except that I want S3 of The 100 - that's the bubble show I'm most invested in.

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  162. This really tells me that CW though they picked up The Messengers probably only did so as a back up if something went terribly wrong. They end up not needing the show so send it to Friday instead of moving a show they actually do like/have faith in/want to keep on the schedule next season.

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  163. It probably only needs to do 0.5 or better on Friday to get another season depending on how expensive it is

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  164. The 100 has been renewed :-)

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  165. I'm gonna guess at Monday but who knows.

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  166. Of course it isn't. SPN has an amazing fan base but you always expect much from a fresh show. And it doing poorly comparing to a show in it's 11th season would be tough.

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  167. It was terrible. It was one of those shows that people on here and other sites kept harping on about how excited they were for it and how come it couldnt air earlier in the end when it did arrive it flopped hard.

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  168. But that would mean moving JTV or Reign to Friday and the CW clearly doesnt want either of those shows to be treated like shit since they want to keep them for various reasons. Neither Reign nor JTV have strong enough fan bases to survive a move esp not to Friday.

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  169. Jean Paul (Alexi)11 January 2015 at 18:48

    Wow, Cw has made renewals already. It renewed The Flash, Arrow, Supernatural, The Vampire Diaries, The Originals The 100, Jane the Virgin and Reign :) I'm so happy for them.


    So, iZombie and The Messengers will be against each other for a renewal? :(

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  170. True, and now they have renewed 8 shows it's probably between this and iZombie for a renewal.

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  171. It is all over twitter, CW renewed all ! of its Fall shows, also Reign! Arrrow, SN, TO and TDV were a given anyway!

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  172. I think everyone expected it to go after Arrow, I did in no way see them premiering a new show on a Friday. I mean even cult had a premiere during the week...

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  173. Jean Paul (Alexi)11 January 2015 at 18:51

    @Brandy Danforth Weren't you pretty confident about The 100 being cancelled? like I told you, Cw likes to surprises us. Besides the big 4 of the network (The Flash, Arrow, Supernatural and The Vampire Diaries), It renewed The Originals and also The 100, Reign and Jane the Virgin :)

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  174. Either SPN or Bones, both of them have been bounced back everywhere

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  175. Think 0,5 would be a good starting point, think it's more important not to drop from that point be constant.

    And if it gets renewed for another season think it'll be more for summer season. I read a tweet that CW is preparing a big line up for summer 2016.

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  176. Ambar Moreno Candelas11 January 2015 at 19:44

    I really can't wait not more for Supernatural!!!!!! And congrats for the 11 season :D

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  177. I am ok with SPN on Wednesday's. Good luck to iZombie following The Flash.

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  178. From twitter:
    #TheMessengers producers respond to comments the pilot is hard to understand: 2nd ep provides more clarity.

    Of course CW chose not to show second episode at TCA.

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  179. Actually wouldn't have cared if Supernatural moves to Fridays. The show did well enough to survive there back in season 7. If it got Season 7's ratings again it would be considered good for the CW.

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  180. Constantine is going to 8pm and also by the time TM airs Constantine will be done its season.

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  181. It would be nice if SHIELD got back some viewers.

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  182. Why? I mean Supernatural after Arrow? Two strong shows together? What are they trying to prove exactly? -_-
    Strong shows should anchor the night.
    Supernatural on Mondays (then iZombie/The Messengers)
    The Flash on Tuesdays (Then iZombie/The Messengers)
    Arrow on Wednesdays (then The 100)
    TVD on Thursdays (Then The Originals)
    And I would've put Reign on Fridays at 9.
    Every pilot should have a fair chance.

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  183. Yup! Now I can watch SHIELD live and record iZombie if the first episodes hook me.

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  184. Same here, I have been looking forward to this for a while now. I just hope they promote the hell out of it, although judging by the show getting barely any coverage by journalists at the TCA makes me think they wont.

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  185. I think it all depends on how iZombie does now that 8 shows have been renewed. I would say something like a 0.8 is a good starting point with it holding at a 0.5/0.6.

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  186. Exactly. They should've never put two comic book shows on the same day at the same time

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  187. Maybe they can't afford to,Mesemgers exspensive -people with powers,post apic-and VpCW needed to fill both Fri skots

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  188. Ugh. I hate when they change days. Ok, SPN, Wed it is.

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  189. I expected the CW schedule to not surprise me.

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  190. i can't believe they're dumping The Messengers on Fridays, i hope it;s not another Enlisted

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  191. is it sad that we're basically saying goodbye to The Messengers?

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  192. Their viewership is completely different and AoS is doing okay, not a too big competition.

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  193. It's Fridays so a good starting point is debatable. I would just hope that the CW at least gives is a post Flash premiere but quite doubtful.

    But I would alao say 0,7 or 0,7 is something to hold it over the water.

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  194. Yep. Thr TCA coverage was quite poor. Honestly don't know why? But still believe that viewers will find their way to the show.

    This was my favorite new CW show of the season. I preffered it over The Flash.

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  195. Crap. I was hoping iZombie would replace The 100. It would have fit perfectly in my viewing schedule.

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  196. So guys, let's look at the statistics. How many Fridays shows have The CW canceled since its inception? By my last count, only three: The Game, Everybody Hates Chris, and Cult.


    In the case of the first two, they were shipped off to Fridays from the get-go for their finale seasons. Cult premiered on a Tuesday before moving to Friday a few episodes in. After getting pulled out, the show's remaining episodes were burned off during the summer.


    Other shows that moved to Fridays: Supernatural, Smallville, and Nikita, lasted at least 3 seasons. Of the three, SPN is still on the air and has moved to two other days in its most recent seasons.


    On the reality/variety front: Masters of Illusion, a half-hour show, flourished in its Friday slot last summer and got renewed. ANTM is a no-brainer, having spent 3 seasons already on Fridays and have mostly kept it steady. Ditto for Whose Line is it Anyway.


    So for The Messengers to really work on Fridays at 9, it will involve a lot of marketing push from The CW the same way they did with The 100. Or else, it will definitely go the way of Star-Crossed when it bombed on Mondays.

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