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Constantine - Changing Timeslot + Return Date

20 Dec 2014

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  1. Christopher DeBono20 December 2014 at 02:56

    Mmm
    NBC giving one last push to save Constantine and trying to see if the timeslot was the problem?

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  2. Are they doing this because Helix is returning on the same night and NBC may be worried that both shows have similar audiences? NBC does on the SyFy network as well.

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  3. Wow I'm surprised NBC is giving Constantine a better timeslot. We'll see how this goes!

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  4. Constantine had great DVR numbers so maybe?

    They seem to be trying harder with Constantine than they did with Hannibal.

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  5. This....this could actually help Constantine even more.


    If Constantine stays, Fridays could look like:


    Constantine
    Grimm
    Hannibal

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  6. Which is disappointing for me as I really loved Dracula.

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  7. That would be a damn good night of television.

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  8. Dracula was a beautiful show

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  9. This is excellent news! Start my night off right. Constantine, Five-O, Blue Bloods.

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  10. Indeed it was. Shame not many people thought so. Imo, the show was a work of art and was a very intelligent show.

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  11. is that good or bad?

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  12. legend of korra? LOL

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  13. Yes it's good that Constantine has a pretty big audience.

    NBC is going to see if more people will watch live if it's in an earlier time slot.

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  14. oh ok cool Constantine really does deserve this, i thought it would be a home run from the second it premiered so it surprised me that it didn't do as well as The Flash or Gotham

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  15. I liked the show in general but the story with new energy and so on, it kinda took time they could have used for other things. Back then it wasn't so important as it is today and anachronisms don't help in some cases.

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  16. When I saw the headline, I had a brief but intense fantasy that NBC was gonna air the last five episodes after The Voice. I hope 8/7c does well for them, rather than working against them. Especially considering those last couple episodes made Constantine become my #1 favorite NBC show. (I do like and love Hannibal, but it's so sickening I wouldn't describe it a "joy" to watch, lol)

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  17. While I am happy for the slightly better timeslot, how the hell are they gonna get away with all the blood and disgusting shit in this show at 8 p.m.? I mean yeah some 8 p.m. shows are like that but Constantine is on a whole different level.

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  18. Just that they can't pick up the back 9 in January. That could happen for 2016 in mid-season.

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  19. Yeah, I really think Grimm should be switched to 8/7c, then Constantine, then Hannibal... Grimm has never once been too dark or violent for 8/7c, at least in the 30 or so episodes I've seen (I stopped watching somewhere around the halfway point of s2)

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  20. I only watch it if I've eaten long enough ago for my food to start digesting and if I don't plan to eat for several hours. :) Generally it's on the actual stuff they show, but that mixed with what they leave for your imagination can get to be too much, as I tend to have a very vivid imagination, and it ends up being 10x grosser than it would be if they'd just show it. lol

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  21. So, what are they doing at 10:00 come January? Encores? Dateline?

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  22. Yeah, Grimm's definitely lighter/more 8:00 friendly than Constantine, but Hannibal's not going to be premiering until spring/after Constantine ends its season.

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  23. I hope that means Hannibal returns earlier.

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  24. That would be one of the best surprises of the new year.

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  25. I think NBC has the best schedule and has made the best moves of the 2015 mid-season.

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  26. it ain't no kids show anymore, they've shown graphic deaths, abuse, Hitler and Nazi-time similarities some hints of a same-sex couple, it's worth a try

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  27. I think the date change might have been for the show to end on Friday the 13th...

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  28. Hannibal won't return until the Spring.

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  29. Same here. Dracula was excellent, while Constantine's first few episodes were awful. I really resent NBC for canceling Dracula which was such a novel take on an old classic. They likewise screwed over the Dark Shadows revival in the early 90s. I was just a little tyke back but thankfully my mom let me stay up and watch!

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  30. If it means an early premiere of Hannibal,thanks NBC!Otherwise,not caring at all.

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  31. As long as the timeslot change helps it in ratings, I'm all for it and I'll wait another week for Constantine. Looks like NBC is trying to help it a bit and see if the ratings improve. I hope they do and it gets a S2, but still a shortened series- I like my shows shorter, tighter and more serialized.

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  32. Isn't Constantine a little dark for 8pm?

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  33. Constantine became a really good show, the last couple of episodes were fantastic, hopefully NBC stick with it.

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  34. but Constantine doesn't seem like it has fillers, that it could have 22 serialized episodes

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  35. hey it ain't Hannibal

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  36. There are a few stand alone episodes that are only loosely connected to the very vague "rising darkness" serialized storyline. Originally they ordered 3 additional episodes and the direction seemed to be a full 22 episode season, which I think is a mistake. I think Constantine would do better on the Hannibal format of a shorter season and that way it wouldn't cost as much for NBC, as opposed to a 22 episode season.

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  37. Agreed. Grimm has become a little more violent since the earlier seasons but it's still a lot better then Constantine.

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  38. It's worth your time; though it looks like a children cartoon it is very deep and over time it has become one of the best television shows on the air - or online, since Nick pulled it from tv- as it gets character development right, and it isn't afraid of high stakes, delivering great drama and comedy along with the exploration of deep themes, such as trauma and recovery, gender equality, politics and religion, among many other that are explored with greatness

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  39. People said the same about Revolution when it moved to Wednesday at 8. It seems NBC doesnt care much for that

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  40. Still waiting on what they're going to do with Aquarius...

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  41. RIGHT?! i'm very confused about that, i thought it was coming in midseason but no promos, no cast pictures, etc., maybe it's coming in 2016?

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  42. Christopher DeBono20 December 2014 at 13:40

    It's probably going to be pushed to summer.

    The only space I believe is after The Slap finishes (estimated to be the first week of April). I'd assume Heroes Reborn will get that though so it can run through sweeps. Leaving Aquarius and Mr. Robinson as summer shows.

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  43. What happens to Dateline NBC then? I assume it be placed at 10/9c?

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  44. NBC have Sunday nights seemingly empty until April 5th, then nothing currently scheduled 8pm. Mysteries of Laura could end early (say March?) to open up a Wednesday slot, Thursdays at 8pm will be free from 9th April. Fridays now free at 10pm... Plenty of spaces to try things out for their remaining shows, but as you say pushing to summer is also very possible.

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  45. Doubt this move will help the show and it will most likely negatively effect Grimm.

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  46. Thanks. I'll have to check it out.

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  47. For a show that's as good as cancelled, this move is bizarre. Why move Dateline? This move will have little effect for Constantine and probably reduce Grimm and Dateline's (assuming that's moving to 10/9c) ratings. Strange move all round.

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  48. This seems like a very bizarre move. It's a dark horror show with blood and gore. Moving it 2 hours earlier, from 10 to 8, means they'll have to seriously tone down the content.

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  49. I'll always agree with someone on Dracula if they're giving it a positive opinion, lol, but I disagree on Constantine's first few episode being "awful". I've enjoyed the series from the beginning as I did with Dracula. Dracula took a great story and twisted it around to actually give it a sense of "This could work in a TV series", but saddening, it was cancelled before we could actually see a Harker vs Dracula battle.

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  50. Man, that would be stellar. I'd have to read this to see if there could be any truth to it, but I'd be watching it that very first day it's released for sure.

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  51. They don't need to pick up the rest of the season. The first season could be 13 episodes and if it doesn't really conclude with the "Rising Darkness" plot, it could continue into a longer S2.

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  52. There were some parallels to it, though. A new kind of human(a vampire) is trying to show a world a brand new idea(energy/light) while Dracula finally found his "light" in what appears to be the reincarnation of his deceased wife.

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  53. Season 2 can't be ordered, written, filmed and be ready to air at the same time as Grimm and Hannibal for mid-season. Only chance they air together is 2016. And I doubt NBC will renew all 3 + not air Dateline on Fridays.

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  54. What are you talking about? I'm talking about for the next season.

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  55. Like several people above me I have to wonder if they can get away with current tone of the show at 8 pm. The source material is already hamstrung just by being on a network show. I don't see how there can be anything left if they tone down the horror aspect as well.

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  56. That's the same night Constantine returns so I'm saying I think they moved it to 8pm to avoid competing against Helix.

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  57. lets not forget Banshee will be airing as well on friday so i will have a full friday night lol

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  58. In this I can't agree. I know you can't extrapolate personal experience to all people, but it has some kind of value. Almost all my friends LOVE Dracula, and I have many friends. Yet, very few of them watched it live, Some DVRed it, and the great majority watched it online, as they watch all their shows. So, I would say that many people thought it was a brilliant series, but many of those people don't use to watch tv. Even then, its live ratings were better than anything else they put in the same time slot, and with almost no promotion at all.

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  59. I just realized, January 16 is a Thursday. So this is going to be quite interesting if Constantine actually stays in Thursdays for the rest of its run.

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  60. I found Constantine's the pilot directionless, poorly paced and gimmicky. The second episode about the coal miners was a real snooze. Perhaps the last few episodes have improved but I stewed through several episodes before deciding the show wasn't worth the time investment.

    Dracula had me hooked from the very start. The major complaint I've read is that it was too slow, but I saved up all the episodes to blow through in a week of binge viewing so I didn't encounter that issue. I also didn't find fault with Dracula's re-imagining as Alex Grayson, American energy tycoon.

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  61. IMO all they should do is give Constantine a 9 episde long second wrap up season to tie everything up nicely and be done with it.


    As much as I love this show it's certainly not a keeper for NBC, nothing against the network but shows that are generally more genre-y than others aren't fit for this network.

    It's simply a place for 40+ skewing shows


    I might sound harsh but I'm partially drunk...so this makes this okay...RIGHT?!?!?!

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  62. Christopher DeBono21 December 2014 at 03:46

    True, I'm still kinda hoping the show moves over to The CW though (I doubt it will happen but still).

    Unfortunately NBC just seemed to want a comic book show because they were 'in' and didn't really seem to think through. (Question would probably fit NBC more then Constantine)

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  63. what about Grimm? it's a bonifide hit for NBC

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  64. exception to the rule, and it's less of a hit and more of a solid performer.

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  65. i like that exception to the rule heh

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  66. don't we all? I'm more of a sucker for mystery shows anyway, NBC really isn't my network to begin with.

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  67. Yeah, I think they cared less about WHO they got and more about getting something known.
    Since there already was a Constantine movie back in 04 (or 05, I don't remember) it already had SOME rep. So they just went with it (also indicating since they didn't call it Hellblazer)


    I'd love to see Constantine go to theCW but the show would probably have to make some changes that I wouldn't like.


    Matt Ryan and the guy playing Chas don't really look CW-ish.

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  68. Giving Constantine a 9 episode long wrap-up season that airs alongside Grimm until it's taken over by Hannibal would be a solid guess I'd say.


    Not only would they then give the writers more time to give the show some closure but would also be able to establish friday as mystery night....aka. the only shows I'd watch on NBC (minus Blacklist) and yes....I consider Hannibal to be mystery, c'mon it's a show about a man that eats human flesh and chops people up while defying gravity!

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  69. For some reason no on-screen gore grosses me out anymore....ever since I binge watched Saw 1-7 (+ Wrong Turn 1-5, Hills Have Eyes and other slasher flicks.....don't ask, it was a weird night) I seem to be de-sensitized.


    But Hannibal has another sense of cruelty: the psychological aspect, he's not redeemable or mentally instable. He is completely stable, wich is the horror about it, he's a monster through and through

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  70. The thing is they can't pick up a back 9 anymore. They don't have time to write, film, produce and get everything ready in a month. But with this move I think the show still has a chance for a 2nd season if the new episodes do good.

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  71. Grimm will definitely be renwed

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  72. Christopher DeBono21 December 2014 at 06:02

    So...have you watched The Human Centipede?

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  73. I have only seen part of one of the Saw movies, it was gross but what I found the concept the most disturbing of all, so that's one franchise I'll never be familiar with, simply not my thing. I think the most extreme disgusting movie I've seen was a the new Evil Dead, I thought it had the right combo of onscreen gore (which was very gross) and stuff for your imagination to think about that I was on the verge of vomiting for most of it... The plot though was very intriguing to me, plus I was on a date with a guy... And as a guy I didn't want to seem like a total wuss, so I suffered silently, lol. Anyway, my point to all that is... Hannibal has, at times, been almost to the level of Evil Dead for me psychologically speaking. For everything combined, the gore you see, stuff you don't see or don't see fully, and as you said, Hannibal is just a scary effin guy. He's even made me paranoid of nice strangers I meet, what if they're a total sociopath who's gonna eat me? But the show is so beautiful in a strange way, and surreal, and the writing is so compelling I can't not watch it.

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  74. well that ain't good LOL

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  75. For me, more than disappointing, it's outrageous. I will never forgive NBC for canceling Dracula.

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  76. Hannibal Lecter is not mentally stable, come on the dude eats humans what mentally stable person does that

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  77. a 9 episode SECOND season

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  78. That and canceling Community really hit me hard. There's only been a few shows that I've become literally upset when a network cancels a show. I'd add Joe Doe and M.A.N.T.I.S. into the list as well.

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  79. I never had a problem with Constantine, even from the beginning. Yes, the show had to find its legs, but I find that every season has to do this and the better shows find their footing in the fourth or fifth episodes.


    With Dracula, I find it to fall in the same boat as is typically the case. Dracula had to find its footing, but it only got stronger and stronger until the last episode which was a breathtaking finale.

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