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Once Upon a Time - The Snow Queen - Review: "The show is afraid of its potential"

14 Nov 2014

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By now I’m used to OUAT being inconsistent; one week is great and the other one is subpar, then it is awesome and then it is utterly awful. Great episodes come and go just as boring episode come and go. This episode is not particularly bad- not even close to how bad OUAT has been before, like in “Brave, Selfless and True” the show’s worst episode to date -, but it is subpar. So what was the biggest sin here? I’d say that this week was boring. Not utterly boring or excruciating, just boring.

I think one of my main problems with the episode- and one of my issues with season 4 so far- is that I’m really not feeling anything for The Snow Queen. For me the best thing about her is that she is played by Elizabeth Mitchell and then that she has a past with Emma, and that’s it. There’s really nothing compelling to her character to me. Her manipulation schemes are overly complicated and borderline stupid and so far there hasn’t been much of anything to grab onto the character to make her interesting, so this episode tried to make us feel for her… with mixed results.

I appreciate what the writers are trying to do with her; her flashback ending with Ingrid killing Helga by accident is tragic and a nice breath of fresh air considering how it was executed; for most of the episode I was annoyed by how Ingrid was so set on getting rid of her magic when her sisters accepted her for who she was, but things turned for the better when Helga sided with her once the Duke tried to lie his way and then seeing Ingrid desperate as she killed her sister by accident; Mitchell just owned the scene portraying her despair and for a moment she made me feel actual sympathy for her character.

But not everything is wine and roses; to get there we had to go through countless slow paced scenes. This show is no Resurrection which can pull of slow paced scenes with slow burning intense emotions. When OUAT does slow paced scenes there is hardly anything going for them; the stakes are usually low and the character conflicts are not strong enough to justify a slow scene by itself.

For instance, when Ingrid is watching her sisters dance the show tries to portray how her powers make her feel like an outsider, but it takes more time than necessary to state that; in fact, it already showed us in a subtle way when she told her sisters to go to the dance without her, so why does the show feel this need to state the obvious? It is beyond me; it’s not something that the show always does, but when it does it really bugs me. Subtlety is an art and also a sign of faith on your audience, but there is none here.

I think one big problem with Ingrid is that she is everything but subtle; everything she does she does it loudly. Even when she was a little girl when she attacked/killed the man who tried to kidnap Gretta she immediately talked about her powerful powers which is nothing but exposition. Since then, in every scene- may it be during the flashbacks or in Storybrooke- she always says what it is going on and there is no guessing, no real showing other than just talking about what’s going on. And there’s nothing wrong with talking, but I would like for her to show what is going on with her instead of telling it every time.

Another issue I have with Ingrid’s storyline is that have she listened to her sisters nothing would have really happened, which points out that Ingrid is really, really dumb: she always says how everyone look at people with magic as a monster, but Helga never did, in fact she died because she believed in her. All her belief on how only magical people can be her family is based on what Greta did to her after she killed her sister, but she is forgetting that Helga never actually doubted her, not for a second, and that she died believing that, loving her for what she truly is.

So that means that Ingrid is either a liar or an idiot; if she is a liar then there is no enough foundation for me to care about her and if she is an idiot then she is a lame villain. It is really a troublesome position to be in; if the villain is not compelling then everything he/she does is just bothersome and one finds oneself watching at the clock waiting for the villain to be over with whatever he/she is doing.

It also really bothers me that she pushes Emma’s buttons so easily; should Emma have not boiled Neal’s bottle with magic Ingrid would have nothing on her, she wouldn’t have been able to trigger her magic because Emma would know that Ingrid is full of it; so Ingrid’s plan depended on a scene that happened a few minutes ago to work. Because that is the only moment when Emma has been actually discriminated for having magic, when every other time she has been accepted and praised for it.

Emma’s powers going out of control is about how Emma is feeling; magic is about what you feel, and once Ingrid makes her feel discriminated for her powers- which is beyond dumb considering it has happened only one time- Emma’s powers go wild, hurting even those she love. And after she accidentally hurts David, Snow yells at her leading to her breaking point and Emma does what she does best: running away.

Look, I get it, the point of the episode was that once people see that once’s power can actually hurt them they reveal the fear that they have had all along. But the episode stages that in the clunkiest way possible; Ingrid got to see Greta being a prey of fear after she accidentally killed her sister, but can we blame Greta? She just saw Helga murdered!
Then Emma’s trouble with magic was staged on this episode only so that it could make sense with what Ingrid is saying, it was made as a plot device to make this story spinning.

Instead of accepting what has been done so far and approaching it using an alternative route the writers become so set on the idea of Ingrid manipulating Emma that they went as far as fabricating something that should have never happened in the first place; Snow knows that Emma would never hurt baby Neal, magic or not, so her reluctance to hand him over is only for plot purposes, and Emma listening to Ingrid is the same.

Truth to be told, I’m mad at the episode, but that doesn’t mean the episode on itself is terrible; there are plenty of scenes going for it.
I’m going to sound like a broken record mentioning how Regina’s growth made the episode for me and how I’m liking how her relationship with Robin Hood is developing.


I’m glad that Robin Hood is showing to be conflicted; OUAT heroes aren’t usually as conflicted as the villain and they tend to be cartoonish, but this season has done a commendable effort to make the heroes more complex, and Robin’s moral dilemma pitches on interest when he chooses Regina effectively screwing Marian’s chances for survival.

Characters like David, Belle and now Robin Hood have all been more grounded which is something OUAT has rarely done in the past; the peak of complexity with hero characters came in season 2 when Snow killed Cora, but since then it was shut down for a lot of the show’s run until this season when it was decided that heroes needed to be revitalized; the show’s weight can’t be carried only by conflicted villains, it also needs heroes that face moral dilemmas and that actually makes mistakes so they look more human than their previous cartoonish personas.

Also worth mentioning is that Rumple’s interaction with Ingrid makes for an interesting insight of Rumple himself; he has his true love Belle and he could have a happy life on Storybrooke with his family, but he wants more, he wants to break free of the daggers control. That crave for power is bringing some of the worst of the character in a very interesting way; as human beings it’s normal that we desire power in a way or another, but Rumple is actually craving and he puts an act in front of everyone, which is what Belle sees on him deep down as we came to know last week.

Add to that OUAT’s funny bits with Emma’s constant reference to pop culture- this week’s guest Lord of The Rings- or Henry getting all dressed for work, and then getting pumped about dealing with magic only to be disappointed with a menial task makes the episode all the more passable.

OUAT can make many, many mistakes, but it always has something going for it. I’ve watched some really dreadful episodes of the show, but it never makes me want to tune out because I know it’s only an off week and that the show can deliver a great and satisfying episode at any moment. In fact, as far as this season has gone, there’s only been 2 episodes I disliked, while I found every single other episode highly entertaining and insightful. It’s just that I wish that this show could be more consistent, you know?

4 seasons in and the show is highly entertaining, but one thing that really frustrate me is that it can be more; I’ve learned to enjoy OUAT for what it is, a really fun fantasy family drama to watch, but this could easily be a prestige fantasy drama about conflicted and more human version of fairytale characters. So why does the show settle for less when it could be so much better? That’s something I’ll never understand.

Grade: C

Stray Observations:

-I must mention that before season 4 started I played a game called “The Wolf Among Us” which has a very similar premise to the one this show has: fairytale characters living in our world. Now, the game is very dark and sometimes even gore and OUAT shouldn’t be like that, but it should have the same character insight and treatment. On “The Wolf Among Us” there is no such thing as a cartoonish or dumb character, whereas on OUAT sometimes they rely heavily on such things.
Having fairytale characters is no excuse for dumb logic or dumb characters, “The Wolf Among Us” is proof of that.

-Poor Snow White has been reduced to nursery plots ever since Neal was born. Remember when she was shooting arrow at people? Those days seem to be over.

-Will Scarlet mini subplot of the week: a pep talk with Robin Hood. The writers really need to figure out what they want to do with his character.

-The fake capture of The Snow Queen was lame, but I really liked when Elsa hugged Emma; there is a part of me that really enjoy that these two are friends.

-Ingrid after Emma destroyed the wall: “This is who you are! And you are beautiful!”
I really felt this was cringe worthy.

-So yeah, I’m really bitter about this episode, but hey! “Smash The Mirror” is coming and hopefully it will be a good palate cleanser.

About the Author - Pablo
I'm currently studying Psychology while also writing fantasy books (one already published in my home country, Chile, you can check it out on the facebook icon). I watch many different types of shows, including my favorites Revenge, Game of Thrones, Once Upon a Time and about 23 more. Currently writing reviews for Once Upon a Time, The 100, Community and Marry Me
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24 comments:

  1. I also heavily disliked the part about Emma's powers. It made absolute no sense.
    Snow and David were counting on them for the curse to be broken. So why was Snow all of the sudden, afraid for the safety of baby Neal just because Emma happened to heat the milk bottle? Hello? No need for microwaves? How's that bad?


    And also, how does Ingrid know that baby Neal is 'normal'? He is what, five months old? Please.

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  2. Nice review it wasn't boring it had it's moments I was mad at Snow for hollering at Emma but then when I watch it again it wasn't that she was afraid of Emma it's was like in mother tone can't believe you did that and I do miss bad ass Snow I love this show but the reason I love Games of Throne because we have the supernatural part and also have sword fighting and shooting arrows that part I miss in this show

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  3. Maybe she doesn't know, but she assumes he is, just to get under Emma's skin and create insecurity. Sometimes people lies just to reach their goal.

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  4. I think it's safe to say that there's magic in Neal considering he's also the product of true love.

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  5. I agree with you on the Snow Queen. I'm not really interested in her. I'm only partially interested in her in relation to Emma - slightly more interested in her and Rumple, mostly because it means that Rumple did something to affect Emma's memory. The Snow Queen is more related to Elsa & Anna and the temporary Frozen characters...for this show to work, there needs to be a strong connection to one of the main characters that the fans love. It just feels like her connection to Emma is way too tenuous for me to care about.


    Also, the flashbacks drove me nuts because Elizabeth Mitchell just looked way older than her sisters, so their interactions felt strange to me because here's this 40-something woman whining about her situation and her little sisters (actress wise, 11 and 19 years younger than her) trying to convince her otherwise.


    Overall, the dialogue in this one was pretty lame. Regina's scenes were very soap opera-like. And yes, the whole Emma losing all her self-confidence within an hour was pretty ridiculous. And, why is Cinderella's 2 year old (even with all the curses, that kid should have aged) an infant like Neal and Aurora's baby?


    And yet, that poll about "What did you think of the Snow Queen episode?" has 294 votes for awesome.

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  6. I'm right with you on the title of your review. According to me, we miss an information which enlightens all the story of the Snow Queen and this information is likely in Emma's past with Sarah Fischer : what happened in Sarah Fischer's foster family ? What about their meeting in Storybrooke, a few times after Emma arrived in the town (the picture taken by Sidney Glass) ?
    I hope this information gonna be worth it.
    In a way, Emma is the last and most mysterious character of the show. Little is actually known about her, but just enough to stick in our mind.

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  7. This review was a little harsh in my eyes, not that I don't agree with some of what you said. I agree the Snow Queen stuff is a little hard to swallow. But its purpose is to drive the storyline this season. Since the show began its been all about how Emma is the savior and her powers will save everyone, this season they are showing a different side to Emma. Shes a little resentful at her parents because they didn't keep her and yet they are fawning all over Neal. And the Snow Queen just happens to show up when all this inner jealousy is coming out of Emma. If they do it right it will make for some good episodes, but so far I haven't seen anything worth while.

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  8. Also, we saw his powers being used by Zelena for her time travel spell. It was the same white light that comes from Emma when she uses her powers.

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  9. sorry, why do you think, it was Rumplestilskin which made something to affect Emma's memory? When Emma was with "Ingrid-foster family", Rumplestilskin was captured in Storybrook as Mr.Gold with no magic and no memories that he was Rumplestilskin. His memories came back only in the sense of who he is (Rumplestilskin) etc, when he heard Emma's name in the first episode. This said the creators in many interviews. Snow Queen herself has the gift to block memories, think I or learnt it sometime.

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  10. In Andersen's tale, the Snow Queen takes memories away with a kiss.

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  11. and I don't think, is a Rumplestilskin-deal ;-)

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  12. i see a thing like Sarah Fisher's kissing Emma's away, when she left her foster family and stealing her memory away...oh God, this show drives us crazy !

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  13. Also wanted to say Emma let the Snow Queen aka Ingrid get under her skin too easily because Snow and Charming never look at her as the savior they always view her as their daughter first I mean they wanted to be her parents the minute they remember it was Emma that kept them at arm length also does the Snow Queen don't care that Emma and Elsa don't like her unless those ribbons going to change their personality toward her and they actually going to believe their family

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  14. I gave up on this show two episodes ago. I read spoilers and reviews so I know what happened. And I just posted I think my last negative opinion about this show. I don't want to be this irritating user who visits articles and keeps whining about the show, but I will tell you one thing - "the show is afraid of its potential". Nailed it.

    I think deep down inside my problem with OUAT is that they literally lost the plot after season 1. They won't admit it, but, in my opinion, they do a lot of "fan pandering" in their writing. And that's never a good thing.

    Also, how many times your brain can handle memory loss? Sure it's a great trick to rewrite/retcon the past story of your characters but, for the love of God, this also means that nothing is sacred in their world, because you can literally change every rule, every story, every plot hole with a stupid memory loss. With this kind of approach, why should I care? Why should I care about these characters journey, when so many "starting points" in this journey are constantly changed? That's why for eg. I hated pixie dust, tattoo and Robin/Regina story. Why, WHY did they give them this silly soulamte/destiny label? Why not doing this romance in a more organic, natural way?

    Everything is fast and furious on OUAT. Storylines for 11 episodes and after that, we are starting the journey again, quite often in the same place - recycling the same stories, problems and conflicts.

    btw, did you guys know that Regina had a sister? Do you think this news and Zelena's disappearance had any impact on Regina? Personally I don't know, because apparently what happened in season 3B, stays in s.3B.

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  15. the problem is, while the review has good points, when has this show ever been about characters making rational choices or smart ones for that matter? this show is built on the premise that everyone is ruled my emotion and acts on it and with it. no one stops and has a moment of reason which is why they all solve problems with magic or violence or a combination of both. its lame and well to be honest this show has always been kind of lame.



    the one issue I had was when you said the Snow Queen was a "lair or stupid" but did you stop to think that maybe she is hurt and in denial? While I don't care for the character all that much story wise, it would seem her desire to "recreate" a family with those similar to her has to do with her anger at what was done to her and the guilt/denial or what she did/who she is.



    this feeds back into the characters and how they all act on irrational emotions, they don't readily think. so if that is this shows bailiwick, its seems rather obvious, if all be it ridiculous, that she would be driven by these emotions/notions.

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  16. I have to agree with your review. I was somewhat intrigued by how the creators would weave frozen into,SB and in some creative ways they have done a fairly good job. What I feel is lacking is that they have put way too much emphasis on those characters and that theme and basically reduced the main characters to extras. It's all about The Snow Queen. In past arcs on OUAT all the characters seem to,be a part of what was happening but I dont feel that way in this one. We were told that the season was a lot about Emma but I feel like all of those regular characters like David, Snow, Henry, Hook, Belle even smaller ones like Ruby are so much a part of Emma that they should be getting the same billing as characters that are around for an arc. I can probably count the number of minutes some of our main characters have been on in 7 episodes, on one hand. The things I was really looking for this season are not really happening or are happening at such a snails pace it's being lost In the overtaking of the Snow Queen. I hate what Snow has become and I absolutely hate that it doesn't matter what happens the go to is always Rumplestilskin. No matter how many times the characters go to Rumple there is always a price but they keep going and he is always at the centre of anything that happens.

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  17. Nicolás Caballero Mühlbach15 November 2014 at 02:06

    I want to play The Wolf Among Us, but before I have to read Fables!!! Is one of the comics that I have in my long list

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  18. What i dont get is why isnt Regina helping Emma, why is Regina only looking for a cure that she knows doesnt exist untill someone gives Marion a true love kiss (which i keep saying is her kid). Regina was helping Emma last season but now she is just gone for the main storyline.
    They have too many characters RN that they dnt know what to do, that's why Snow it's only otaking care of her baby and last episode had a break that it made us kind of miss that badass Snow.
    It's crazy how Snow wanted Emma to release her magic to fight agains Zelena but now they afraid of her? C'MON!

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  19. Wonderful review. I've never thought about all the points you've raised but you gave some excellent ones. Love your perspective.

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  20. Don't you use full stops at all?

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  21. Coming from experience, you don't need to read Fables to play The Wolf Among us since the game acts as a prequeal, but you should defenitely read Fables.
    Did you know that both ABC and NBC got the rights to adapt Fables into TV shows? They ended up doing OUAT and Grimm, but they were originally pitched as Fables adaptions

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  22. Nicolás Caballero Mühlbach16 November 2014 at 19:15

    Yes, I read something about it somewhere!

    Thank you :)

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  23. Because he asked her if Emma recognized her and when the Snow Queen said "no", he said something like "well then, it's working for you". So obviously he knows about the memory wipe, which means he was likely involved in making it happen. And, we know it happened after Emma came to Storybrooke because she met the Snow Queen there (the photos that Regina had), but doesn't remember it. So the memory wipe definitely happened when Rumple knew who he was...

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  24. I think Regina was actually flipping through the storybook looking for clues about the author when she was in the vault in this episode - not looking for a cure anymore. She pretty much said it - either someone will have to deliver true love's kiss or the Snow Queen will have to break her own magic.

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