Thea baby what did you get yourself into. I can't wait for this. This is my most anticipated story line. Look how proud he is when she curses at him. He is ruthless.
They will not go another episode without Thea and Malcolm right? At the end of the episode Roy will tell Oliver about Thea not backpacking. Oliver's surprised face or he tells Felicity to find Thea. Scene transition to Corto Maltese where Thea is trained by Malcolm or we might see her back. That will be a great way to end the episode
Well....we KNOW that they'll appear in episode 3 due to the writers telling us about the car scene. And we'll see Malcolm in episode 4 since it's "his" episode. As for that scene....
I would hope that it's actually for tonight, the timing would fit. Especially since the training sequences would be perfect to be pre- or postshot for Barrowman to catch up on episodes.
I'll be honest.....I don't think I'll survive another episode like the last. Weak overall with a bomb to end it. Really hoping for the season 1/2 tone to return instead of the (sorry ODA) Olicity heavy crap we were fed last week
No need to apologize. You like what you like. I was not happy with last episode too. It had too many high points like date getting blasted, Diggle baby, Roy disarming the bomb, Canary and Oliver taking down the count but nothing had any emotional impact because we were racing to finish the next scene. So I agree we need better execution not just shocking ends. When did they start this tradition of shocking ends on Arrow? Was it from The Scientist onwards last season when Barry opens his eyes at the lair?
Yeah I was wondering the same thing. They didn't always the shocking ending thing but they seem to do it all the time now. ever since episode 7 or 8 of season 2. I guess they are just trying to keep viewers.
Big shocks were always used to end episodes the writers knew were lackluster. Big reveals are a cheap trick to spice up flat material.
They always had some great cliffhangers on Arrow. Yao Fei shooting Oliver early on, Malcolm returning from the dead...all these episodes were rather weak.
What do we remember State vs. Queen for? The Count biting it? I certainly don't as the episode felt weak, meanwhile the return Malcolm made was brilliant.
Vampire Diaries did the same, we got a weak annoying episode full of romance and snooze and the final seconds showed Elijah returning from his coffin
actually in season 1 they used Yao Fei under the hood shooting Oliver from behind, the Malcolm reveal as the Dark Archer, Tommy dying, all heavy cliffhangers
I am not a fan of such shocking ending for every episode. Once in a while it was fun. Now you anticipate and prepare yourself for shocks. In season 2B episodes like Seeing Red relied heavily on the shocking ending to tie the show together. Every scene before Moira's death in that episode somehow lost relevance once that happened.
I agree State vs. Queen was a joke until Malcolm revealed himself. That court case makes me laugh even now. Nothing substantial happened in the episode at all. I hope we have less shockers and more quality episodes this season.
But that doesn't mean they are in THIS episode. It means they are in NEXT episode. John Barrowman/Willa Holland didn't start filming until the 3rd episode.
But in season 2 they ramped up the shocking ending. Ep.1. Canary intro, Ep.2. Oliver is surrounded by police in laurel's office Ep.3 death penality for Moira so on and so forth. Sometimes I like characters sitting at a table at the end of the day and drinking tea as the episode ending.
Damn, this really makes me feel anything but better about this. I still anticipate their storyline a lot too, but I'm not exactly looking forward to it either.
But again, Malcolm's sickly ruthlessness is another HUGE difference between Thea, 'cause she's anything but. But I don't know... I still fear for how much he's going to get exactly what he wants, and what that's going to leave her as.
As long as they don't make Thea be the killer of Sara as some people predicts (which I can't see happening. Oliver will brood more), she is salvagable and can be brought back. I can't wait for Oliver to be honest with Thea. He needs his baby sister by his side.
I read those predictions too, and that would be some utter BS and utterly stupid if they choose to do that... I did read though that they "like" to do as much as possible to play AGAINST the expectation of Thea becoming "Speedy" so we'll see how far they actually want to push that, even Willa wants to actually play Speedy.
I can't ever see her being the one that did that to Sara, but overall I can't actually see her as a killer, but if that preview is from when he first started training her, then I'm still really worried in what state she'll be now, since Malcolm's talks and ways often remind me a lot of some sick personal form of brainwashing.
But I still agree, he DOES need his little sister on his side, and I still believe and think that the only real response from Thea to that truth, would be that she would love, respect and look up at him again even more. I believe she would believe way more in the person that Oliver/Green Arrow stands for, than anythign else. But since Malcolm is in 18 episodes I think, and with Ra's, I still hope they don't try to go the redemption route with him, 'cause that would be just as much BS.
Personally I think Malcolm is nonredeemable. Arrow might join Malcolm once or twice to take down a bigger foe but he will always remain an antagonist for Arrow. By making Thea Malcolm's biological daughter they kind of assured Oliver will never kill Malcolm. I want Malcolm to be a series long villain who will have his own agenda always. Thea after joining Team Arrow can have a love hate relationship with him. I can't wait for this episode.
I can't wait for it either, even with the part of me that'skinda nervous about it xD
But they can still keep him around too long, I mean, villains that are around too long term, either get redeemed anyway, which Iagree Malcolm shouldn't be able to, or it makes the show itself suffer from it... Once or twice against a greater threat, i could see that. But I also wouldn't really like having to constantly doubt if Thea would choose Malcolm over Oliver anyway with something, if she had a love hate relationship with him.
I'm just not sure if she would actually truly be Speedy, if a part of her would always be too closely connected to Malcolm.
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Yes! Thea and Malcolm are back :D
ReplyDeleteMalcolm is ruthless.
ReplyDeleteLmao at Malcolm giving Thea serious heart eyes when she stands up to him. Their scenes will be fun.
ReplyDeleteThea baby what did you get yourself into. I can't wait for this. This is my most anticipated story line. Look how proud he is when she curses at him. He is ruthless.
ReplyDeleteMerlyn, the monster he should be.
ReplyDeleteHe has a point though, like Slade didn't hold back with Ollie he won't with Thea.
I do hope that we see them tonight though, at least a glimpse of them in the final scene would be great
LOL I think this was posted by accident too
ReplyDeleteMerlyn is batsh*t crazy omg
I don't think Slade bunched Oliver in the face ever. Merlyn is crazy lol
ReplyDeleteThey will not go another episode without Thea and Malcolm right? At the end of the episode Roy will tell Oliver about Thea not backpacking. Oliver's surprised face or he tells Felicity to find Thea. Scene transition to Corto Maltese where Thea is trained by Malcolm or we might see her back. That will be a great way to end the episode
ReplyDeleteThe EP's said they won't show up until the 3rd episode but I guess they could surprise us
ReplyDeleteGood for Thea
ReplyDeletePoor Thea
ReplyDeletedo we know this is a preview for Corto Maltese? I haven't read anything episode specific there?
ReplyDeleteThere are better ways to train someone. Merlyn is one sick SOB!!
ReplyDeleteWell....we KNOW that they'll appear in episode 3 due to the writers telling us about the car scene. And we'll see Malcolm in episode 4 since it's "his" episode.
ReplyDeleteAs for that scene....
I would hope that it's actually for tonight, the timing would fit. Especially since the training sequences would be perfect to be pre- or postshot for Barrowman to catch up on episodes.
I'll be honest.....I don't think I'll survive another episode like the last. Weak overall with a bomb to end it. Really hoping for the season 1/2 tone to return instead of the (sorry ODA) Olicity heavy crap we were fed last week
No need to apologize. You like what you like. I was not happy with last episode too. It had too many high points like date getting blasted, Diggle baby, Roy disarming the bomb, Canary and Oliver taking down the count but nothing had any emotional impact because we were racing to finish the next scene. So I agree we need better execution not just shocking ends. When did they start this tradition of shocking ends on Arrow? Was it from The Scientist onwards last season when Barry opens his eyes at the lair?
ReplyDeleteI hope they surprise us. That will make us eager to watch next episode.
ReplyDeleteIf you click on guggenheim's username on the site you can see the list of photo's he uploaded. This photo had caption 3.03 preview.
ReplyDeleteYeah I was wondering the same thing. They didn't always the shocking ending thing but they seem to do it all the time now. ever since episode 7 or 8 of season 2. I guess they are just trying to keep viewers.
ReplyDeleteBig shocks were always used to end episodes the writers knew were lackluster. Big reveals are a cheap trick to spice up flat material.
ReplyDeleteThey always had some great cliffhangers on Arrow. Yao Fei shooting Oliver early on, Malcolm returning from the dead...all these episodes were rather weak.
What do we remember State vs. Queen for? The Count biting it? I certainly don't as the episode felt weak, meanwhile the return Malcolm made was brilliant.
Vampire Diaries did the same, we got a weak annoying episode full of romance and snooze and the final seconds showed Elijah returning from his coffin
merlyn looks like the joker with that smile
ReplyDeleteactually in season 1 they used Yao Fei under the hood shooting Oliver from behind, the Malcolm reveal as the Dark Archer, Tommy dying, all heavy cliffhangers
ReplyDeleteyeah but those were only a few. Now they do cliffhanger endings all the time. I do agree that sometimes they use them to make up for weak episodes.
ReplyDeleteI am not a fan of such shocking ending for every episode. Once in a while it was fun. Now you anticipate and prepare yourself for shocks. In season 2B episodes like Seeing Red relied heavily on the shocking ending to tie the show together. Every scene before Moira's death in that episode somehow lost relevance once that happened.
ReplyDeleteWasnt this suppose to be Diggle centric episode?
ReplyDeleteyeah but it is also the first episode that Malcolm and Thea return.
ReplyDeleteI agree State vs. Queen was a joke until Malcolm revealed himself. That court case makes me laugh even now. Nothing substantial happened in the episode at all. I hope we have less shockers and more quality episodes this season.
ReplyDeleteI just hope it really is Diggle centric. Since the next one will have more focus on Malcolm.
ReplyDeleteI am always confused by how bad they handle the lawyer storylines given that MG himself was a lawyer.
ReplyDeleteI forgot how batshit crazy Malcolm was. I missed him.
ReplyDeleteMeh it worked for Oliver, Malcolm, and Sara (presumably).
ReplyDeleteThey do show up because next week is the episode where they go to Corto Maltese.
ReplyDeleteBut that doesn't mean they are in THIS episode. It means they are in NEXT episode. John Barrowman/Willa Holland didn't start filming until the 3rd episode.
ReplyDeleteBut in season 2 they ramped up the shocking ending. Ep.1. Canary intro, Ep.2. Oliver is surrounded by police in laurel's office Ep.3 death penality for Moira so on and so forth. Sometimes I like characters sitting at a table at the end of the day and drinking tea as the episode ending.
ReplyDeleteDamn, this really makes me feel anything but better about this. I still anticipate their storyline a lot too, but I'm not exactly looking forward to it either.
ReplyDeleteBut again, Malcolm's sickly ruthlessness is another HUGE difference between Thea, 'cause she's anything but. But I don't know... I still fear for how much he's going to get exactly what he wants, and what that's going to leave her as.
YEAH work for Merlyn, then he blew up 500 people!!
ReplyDeleteAs long as they don't make Thea be the killer of Sara as some people predicts (which I can't see happening. Oliver will brood more), she is salvagable and can be brought back. I can't wait for Oliver to be honest with Thea. He needs his baby sister by his side.
ReplyDeleteI read those predictions too, and that would be some utter BS and utterly stupid if they choose to do that... I did read though that they "like" to do as much as possible to play AGAINST the expectation of Thea becoming "Speedy" so we'll see how far they actually want to push that, even Willa wants to actually play Speedy.
ReplyDeleteI can't ever see her being the one that did that to Sara, but overall I can't actually see her as a killer, but if that preview is from when he first started training her, then I'm still really worried in what state she'll be now, since Malcolm's talks and ways often remind me a lot of some sick personal form of brainwashing.
But I still agree, he DOES need his little sister on his side, and I still believe and think that the only real response from Thea to that truth, would be that she would love, respect and look up at him again even more. I believe she would believe way more in the person that Oliver/Green Arrow stands for, than anythign else. But since Malcolm is in 18 episodes I think, and with Ra's, I still hope they don't try to go the redemption route with him, 'cause that would be just as much BS.
AHhhhhh!!! This is awesome!! I was just thinking about them too!! Thea control the rage, and kick his ass!
ReplyDeleteI can't come up with a proper adjective to describe how disturbing that man is.
ReplyDeletePersonally I think Malcolm is nonredeemable. Arrow might join Malcolm once or twice to take down a bigger foe but he will always remain an antagonist for Arrow. By making Thea Malcolm's biological daughter they kind of assured Oliver will never kill Malcolm. I want Malcolm to be a series long villain who will have his own agenda always. Thea after joining Team Arrow can have a love hate relationship with him. I can't wait for this episode.
ReplyDeleteI can't wait for it either, even with the part of me that'skinda nervous about it xD
ReplyDeleteBut they can still keep him around too long, I mean, villains that are around too long term, either get redeemed anyway, which Iagree Malcolm shouldn't be able to, or it makes the show itself suffer from it...
Once or twice against a greater threat, i could see that. But I also wouldn't really like having to constantly doubt if Thea would choose Malcolm over Oliver anyway with something, if she had a love hate relationship with him.
I'm just not sure if she would actually truly be Speedy, if a part of her would always be too closely connected to Malcolm.
Malcolm and Oliver will likely work together as the saying goes The enemy of my enemy is my friend.....they have the same enemy Ral Al Ghul!
ReplyDeleteIf he ends up breaking her down and brainwashing her I'll be so pissed.
ReplyDeleteBut he did that out of grief and instability not because of his training.
ReplyDeleteShe might not be completely brainwashed but we can foresee some unpleasant changes in her.
ReplyDeleteI'm used to unpleasant. The character has always been intermittently unpleasant just by how she's written. I can deal with that.
ReplyDeleteGood point
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