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Agents of SHIELD - Episode 2.03 - Making Friends and Influencing People - Sneak Peek 2

4 Oct 2014

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Thanks to SHIELDNCISArrowfan for the heads up.

65 comments:

  1. SHIELDNCISArrowfan3 October 2014 at 20:38

    Don't watch this..........it break your heart.........

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  2. Stupid decision!!!!! If this is the true version of events then this is the most stupid decision!

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  3. I'm sure she's just happy beacuse she's close to finding a cure for Fitz, right??? (?) *tic*

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  4. after watching this i'm more than convinced that Jemma follows her own agenda (i hope finding a cure for Fitz ;_;) but it breaks my heart that she is so carefree... meanwhile at SHIELD everyone is depressed

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  5. aaaaand, she's pretending to be happy, RIGHT??

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  6. Ohhhh Jemma :( You have a lot of explaining to do but I still firmly believe that she is working as a double agent and is trying to find a cure for Fitz.



    P.S That song at the beginning was so random but I love it XD

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  7. SHIELDNCISArrowfan3 October 2014 at 20:51

    I pretty sure she not HYDRA her face at the end seem to indicate she uncomfortable

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  8. Reminds me of the opening of Lost S2 with Desmond.

    But yeah don't be fooled by this sneak peak, nothing is what it seems on AoS

    We know Jemma is a bad liar so she may have had to force herself to be a completely different person in order to achieve her goal (plus you can see the her facade dropping just a little when at the end and when the lift doors close)

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  9. Yeah! I was like "Is there a Lost writer on AoS I didn't know about?"

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  10. I made a disqus just to say this since I've noticed this on almost every Agents of Shield related post since S2 began. There is no such thing as a 'cure' for brain damage. Saying Jemma is 'looking for a cure' is very damaging. This is a real thing that happens to people, implying that the only way their recovery will be accepted is if they're given a magic drug to 'make them normal' is extremely ableist, disrespectful, and disappointing.

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  11. This actually made to check to see if there was and it just so happens the writer of this episode Monica Owusu-Breen was briefly on Lost! Only wrote one episode in S3 but I wonder if it was a homage.

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  12. It's funny, how HYDRA puts its logo everywhere. :) As if they are tired of being descreet and staying undercover.

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  13. I think people don't necessarily mean an actual ''cure'' but at least some way to help Fitz get better.

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  14. When they come out of the shadows they really come out of the shadows! Wonder if they have a marketing department.

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  15. You're joking, right?


    Agents of Shield takes place in a universe that has billionaire that flies around in a metal suit, a physical weakling get injected with a serum and turn into the perfect specimen, an human looking god/alien that control lightning, a serum that brought back at least two people from the dead and not to mention a guy that got caught in a gamma radiation explosion and now can turn into a Hulk when he's angry.

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  16. spoiler: there are also no superheros in real life. this is a sci-fi show....

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  17. Yes exactly, it seems a lot of people don't understand this. It would be lazy writing to just 'make it go away' and it would honestly be pointless, why injure him only to magic it away again a few episodes later?

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  18. No, I'm not joking. Should I phrase it differently? Say you had an accident and you got told you'd NEVER recover fully but you had a chance to recover somewhat, you put in the work, you worked for years and years, you recovered to a point where you're the closest to being 'back' as you can be. Then you sit down to watch your favorite show, a character in the show is struggling the same way you are. And then suddenly they get given a magic 'cure' and they're 'normal' again. Would you be okay with that? Or would you look at that and think 'why couldn't that have happened to me?' Do you know how many people would kill to get a cure like that?

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  19. I'm well aware that there are no superheroes. And I am well aware that this is sci-fi. None of that means that they can't go down the real life route. They don't need a cure for everything in science fiction.

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  20. Hitting the reset button every single time gets annoying. "S/he's dead! Let's resuscitate them!" "S/he lost a limb! Whatever, we'll grow it back or give them a new bionic one!" After a while you stop caring about what happens to the characters because you know they'll magically get better. In the end it cheapens whatever they go through.

    Let us have a character who, for once, suffers lasting consequences from his ordeal. Brain damage isn't a light injury. I, for one, want to see Fitz get somewhat better but not because he's been "cured of it": slowly, over time, because he's worked hard on it. And even then, sometimes you don't recover completely.

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  21. That was awesome! I'm so looking forward to this episode! This had such a Lost-y vibe I'm now more exited than I was after the promo, lol.

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  22. but when you have a character who is a scientist you can actually show her reasearching for something to help her best friend, even if it's not possible in real life, it might be possible in this show! and no one said that they have to succeed with a "cure" but i think it's not really absurd if they would show Jemma working hard for a resolution in a field she is a real pro in it.

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  23. Obviously brain-damage is non treatable but I just want Simmons to find SOMETHING that will help Fitz in any way. He needs to get some type of medical care because he just keeps on getting worse and worse as the day passes by.

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  24. She's DEFINITELY there to help Fitz. I really can't wait for this episode!

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  25. Whats the music?

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  26. spoiler 2: they brought Coulson back from death. I'm pretty sure you can't do that in real life either.

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  27. Oh yeah, I definitely agree with you on someone giving Fitz neurorehabilitation, but no one is helping him at the moment (except for Mack by being someone that Fitz can talk to instead of just hallucinating Simmons) which is frustrating. All he has is the pills in a bottle that he takes regularly but I don't think that seems to be working.

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  28. everyoneissleeping3 October 2014 at 22:53

    Oh, I don't know... I'm not buying her changing sides. I think she's probably there because she believes she can help Fitz using their resources. And, possibly, use whatever she finds to cripple Hydra. I'm rather exited for this storyline, to be honest.

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  29. She's undercover for SHIELD. The only way she could be seem so happy in her daily life is with the cetainty that she is doing the right thing. I'm convinced that she knows what the right thing is.

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  30. Neither Fitz nor Skye died. And it doesn't take the emotion out of me at all. As if they'd cure him that easily....

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  31. Yeah definitely. When Mack was with him his hallucination of Jemma was getting further away. From one of the promo images from 203 we at least know he's still gonna be hanging out with Mack. From interviews with Liz we know that Fitz and Simmons will be developing as separate characters this season rather than being just FitzSimmons, I hope that means Fitz and Mack will end up being good friends, and clearly Simmons is already getting storylines of her own, which last season was more than lacking. I think the reason Mack is treating Fitz in a way that helps is because he didn't know Fitz before, he doesn't know what he's 'supposed' to be like, he just knows the confused, frustrated Fitz that talks to himself. Everyone else needs to learn from Mack, he's doing really well so far.

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  32. Skye coded multiple times and was hooked up to a ventilator, the hospital told them to take her off life support. Fitz was in a coma (maybe for months) and no one knew Fitz was alive at the end of the season, of course Simmons said 'he's alive' but that could've mean't he was in a persistent vegetative state or even brain dead.


    And imo just because they can 'cure' it doesn't mean they should.

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  33. Exactly! At some point further down the line, I want Fitz/Mack to have a really great friendship because they make a great team. As for Simmons, I agree with her getting her own storyline! I'm intrigued to see how she will develop as a separate individual.

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  34. Yes! I do also think since Mack is a mechanic he might also be able to show Fitz how to do some of the things he's forgotten how to do, or talk him through them so Fitz can slowly work to become the teams 'tech guy' again.
    And Simmons getting her own storyline has been on my wishlist for the longest time so I'm on board for pretty much anything right now - though I really don't think she's actually Hydra, I kinda hope she's working for Bobbi Morse tbh, though I probably wouldn't mind regardless at this point. I just want more Simmons.

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  35. everyoneissleeping3 October 2014 at 23:37

    My guess would be that she thought her presence was doing more harm than good and figured she could help both Fitz and SHIELD more by working alone, infiltrating Hydra. Btw. I wouldn't worry too much about the writers getting Fitz's recovery wrong. Look at Coulson: yes, they brought him back to life, but they also made it very clear that it wasn't without consequences.

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  36. everyoneissleeping3 October 2014 at 23:42

    I agree. Except, I think she's doing it on her own (based on Coulson confronting her and asking if she thought that he wouldn't find out in the promo).

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  37. Yes! More Simmons is always a plus and would make everyone happy.

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  38. Even though I know she probably won't be full fledged... NOOOOOOO!!! Simmons! Lol yes I am that attached to the character haha. Anyways can't wait for the ep.

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  39. That's pretty much exactly what I think too, I figure she's trying to do something rather than, say, sitting around feeling guilty watching Fitz struggle. Maybe at first she left for personal reasons, but I think in the end she decided to stay away to either raid Hydra, collapse at least that section from the inside, or to save some of the gifted people they're probably recruiting. Maybe she's even working for Bobbi Morse, who we already know is gonna pop up in episode 4. Imo that's why she's so smiley in the promo, because they wouldn't suspect her like that.


    I'm more worried that they'll get bored of it and 'cure' him or even just make it so unrealistic that it's offensive to people who are actually suffering with brain damage. Plus the AoS writers have been rather problematic so far.

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  40. Hey thanks for the upload and yes even though I know she's probably not Hydra it still kills me to even see her there.

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  41. everyoneissleeping4 October 2014 at 00:03

    Problematic how?

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  42. oh Gemma, how could you? I'm banking on that she is playing as a double agent....please oh please....

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  43. 1 - Ward was raped by Lorelei and it's never been mentioned since.
    2 - May punched him as comic relief afterwards, which was both out of character and further abuse of an abuse victim.
    3 - Simmons only existing for Fitz during most of S1 and existing solely in Fitz's mind for two episodes of S2 without us seeing 'real' Simmons.
    4 - They killed off Victoria Hand and Isabelle Hartley and then said they didn't make them lesbians in the show because they "didn't want to be known as the writers who killed two lesbians".
    5 - They killed off a women for 'man pain', since Hartley essentially died to hurt Lance Hunter. Which is just plain annoying since there are only three main female characters, at least at the moment.


    There are likely a good few more but those are the ones that come to mind. Of course, most of the time the show has fantastic writing but sometimes I just wish they'd stop and think first, or at least try to correct or address some of the problem areas.

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  44. Agreed, also the opening reminded me of one of those openings on Lost can't remember which episode but it was when they introduced Desmond in the hatch.

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  45. Also I had a though maybe they've got cameras an crap watching her that's why she has to act happy all the time? Like in Lost when Jack was being watched by the others before he did Ben's op and had to act like he was happy being there etc.

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  46. everyoneissleeping4 October 2014 at 01:19

    You've got a point there...

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  47. 'God Help The Girl' by the music group of the same name, from the album of the same name

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  48. REMEMBER IN MARVEL ALL IS POSSIBLE!!!!! :) She needs HYDRA to help Fitz.

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  49. Historical_Materialist4 October 2014 at 03:49

    RELAX!!!! She's there to infiltrate HYDRA. It will be revealed that she was put on to this by Nick Fury shortly after she and Fitz were rescued by him in the water (with Coulson having full knowledge of this). There she will be joined by Bobbi Morse/Mockingbird who is also infiltrating HYDRA.... this will all eventually work their way to the end of season events which will tie into or set up the events at the beginning of Avengers: Age of Ultron where some leaked plot details suggest that Hawkeye is also infiltrating HYDRA and sets up the assault on Baron Strucker's base by the Avengers which sees the twin Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver released.

    So everyone stop freaking out about sweet little Gemma going bad.

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  50. I do agree that Fitz getting healed should not be easy but its a very possible Hydra has something which might be able to help him and Simoons is acting evil to get that , this makes a lot of sense.
    l agree with all your points , killing off Lucy Lawless was a terrible idea and l hope they reverse it because it seems like such a waste , lm not sure victims of the obelisk are essentially all dead sacrificing her arm might have spared her .Hydra may go after her body and do something which brings her back.
    Im not sure l blame the writers completely but Marvel for being too kiddy there are no LGBT characters on the show at all , Hartley and Hand were only assumed to be because they are in the comics .

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  51. No on is saying that brain damage isn't a tragedy. Trust me. We all know it's terrible, and we relate to TV characters to sometimes help us understand life's curveballs, it's knife wounds and hair-tearing heartbreak.

    However, the point being made here, is that death is also a tragedy. Losing family is a tragedy. This is the Marvel universe, a tapestry of fiction where loved ones die, and come back to life through advance science-fiction technology and alien intervention. In real life, people have to move on when loved ones die--death isn't reversible in the non-fictional universe. This is a universe where millions of people partake in fantasy. Singling out the tragedy that is brain damage in real life, to say that it, and it alone is deserving of an unspeakable taboo in this sci-fi universe--*that* is what is disrespectful.


    I mean, I just lost my grandmother. Hardest thing I've dealt with in a half-life. I've never looked at a science fiction 'cure' for death in Star Trek, Farscape, Stargate, Marvel Universe or Mass Effect and questioned 'why couldn't that have been my grandmother?'. It's fiction. We understand it's not real, but just for a few minutes every week, we can make our lives a little bit more pleasant knowing that it's still 'real' to the fictional people we love.

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  52. As much as I love Simmons makes me completely angry too see poor fitz struggle to keep his sanity and jemma seems to be well of her own apartment a Job everything the guy that saves her a mental wreck.
    I hope to god she's undercover she has to be right .

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  53. One word: Misdirection.


    And not just with that Hydra symbol at the end. That entire clip, from everything down to the song choice, seemed to be trying very hard -- so much that it feels suspicious -- to make us think one thing whereas the truth is probably far different. The promo teaser for this episode hinted that Hydra brain-washing techniques might be addressed. Keep that in mind.

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  54. That's what I'm thinking. Trying to fool herself into thinking she's happy. Or possibly brainwashed. You know, one of those.

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  55. There's no such thing a cure for death either, but here's Coulson, all alive and stuff. Much weirder things than a cure for brain damage can and have happened in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Just saying.

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  56. Gotta admit, that bothers me too, more than a little bit. But again, I'm sure this is all misdirection. They want us to expect them to zig when they're actually about to zag.

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  57. if its boring or not to get cured with something that wasnt the point of the discussion, you were offended because people suggesting something what might work in a tv show but not in real life ...and yeah when i read your other comments you are most likley offended by almost everything

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  58. Agreed I hope its misdirection too
    But after all this I hope the romantic angle is kept far off for a while fitz needs to learn to live life fully even without Simmons iI would not like to see him brain damaged and heartbroken. Because clearly she doesn't reciprocate
    Fitz is my fav and as much as I like Fitzsimmons as a team they both need to find their identities apart from each other especially fitz.

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  59. If so, maybe we can ask them to market the show too since ABC has been doing such a crap job of that.

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  60. Shooting Thepast4 October 2014 at 13:47

    She's probably after revenge since it was Hydra that put Fitz in the position he's in now. It probably broke her heart. She wants to get even.

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  61. Love this sneak peek! It's definitely a Lost homage to those opening scenes with Desmond, Juliet and even Dr. Chang in Season 5. And Liz looks gorgeous.

    That being said, I'm even more convinced that Simmons is NOT really HYDRA now and it amazes me that so many people are falling for it. Would they seriously go for the character assassination of showing her all happy with a great apartment and job with the *evil* organization while her BFF is brain-damaged and suffering? Not to mention, the lyrics say "God help this girl, she needs all the help she can get while Simmons - the notoriously bad liar - arrives at the HYDRA office with a tense look on her face...

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  62. Season 2, episode 1. They then did the same thing in the premieres of Seasons 3 (with Juliet) and 5 (Pierre Chang).

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  63. everyoneissleeping5 October 2014 at 18:56

    Thanks!

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  64. thinking about it i dont think she is undercover for shield because after what happened to fitz in the field i doubt he would wanna put simmons undercover at hydra so my guess is simmons left shield because she knew coulson wouldnt let her go undercover at hydra and try and find something to help fitz so she left and is on her own mission from the promo im guessing coulson finds out and confronts her about the danger she is putting herself in.
    also in the episode when coulson was in his office and sent a picture out to someone of something to look out for i remember people saying they thought it was for simmons but what if it was actully for bobbi morse(mokingbird)

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