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POLL : What did you think of Doctor Who - Listen?

13 Sept 2014

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35 comments:

  1. Ross13 September 2014 at 20:18

    Good idea. But the execution was just messy.

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  2. Lady_Junky13 September 2014 at 20:22

    One of the best episode since the return of the show in 2005 :D

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  3. Lou13 September 2014 at 20:39

    Apart from last week's episode this season has been so well odd, like how its filmed and edited and how the Doctor is feels like a completely different show from the Smith or Tennant era but I like it a lot. Maybe its because Capaldi is quieter in many ways and isn't that manic or is but in a different way than the others were. I can't put my finger on it but its good, its different, I imagine many people won't like it but I do.


    Onto the episode itself, very creepy in parts, love the awkward Danny/Clara moments, loved Orson Pink, enjoyed the hell out of it all and the ending with Clara and the Young!Doctor was great, as was realising the barn was the same place from the Day of the Doctor.

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  4. Panos Nestoras13 September 2014 at 20:39

    Definitely one of the best episodes of the entire show!

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  5. Walkeros13 September 2014 at 20:44

    Exactly what I think of the season and the episode !

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  6. nels13 September 2014 at 20:56

    That was just too hich concept for me to already have an opinion on it...

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  7. CGS13 September 2014 at 22:57

    The show IS very different but I am LOVING it. Capaldi to me is the perfect Doctor, even though I've watched the show since 2005 I think his portrayal is the closest to what the Doctor is supposed to be, I don't know how to explain that really, and I LOVE Tennant and Smith too but... yeah, I don't know. Ha.


    I like the new aesthetics too, I still am so excited over the new TARDIS design. And Danny/Clara are seriously competing to totally destroy Amy/Rory in terms of cuteness. In episode two they were actually my favorite scenes of the whole episode haha.

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  8. Sandi13 September 2014 at 23:03

    Brilliant, one of the best episodes of the show ever I think, it covered such a lot of material in 50 minutes, it was insanely well written and performed! :)

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  9. Sandi13 September 2014 at 23:06

    It's one of those episodes that you want to watch again, plus catch up on a few others from the past cos of the throw backs, while you wait impatiently for the rest of the season to find out what the hell happens with all the set ups that were put in place :)

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  10. Sandi13 September 2014 at 23:07

    And to think it was all about fear and unseen 'monsters', all things you think Moff has already covered in detail in the past, then he pulls this out of the bag!

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  11. ShOwFrEaK14 September 2014 at 02:26

    Lol, I doing the same thing for the past couple of weeks. Started from season 1 and now on Season 5.

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  12. Ben14 September 2014 at 03:00

    I loved the episode too! I don't think some people realize this ep is about the doctor's fear and not a monster.

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  13. Morrigan_257514 September 2014 at 03:12

    Only my 2nd episode with this doctor, I watched the Robin Hood episode right before it. I rather enjoyed this episode up until the end with Clara being the monster under the bed. Maybe it's because I never warmed up to Clara but I hated that she once again played the role of Impossible Girl.

    Other then that, I liked Daniel/Rupert Pink and like the dynamic between Twelve and Clara much better then Eleven/Clara.

    He is Twelve right? Or are we going with Thirteen because of the 50th Anniversary episode?

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  14. Sara14 September 2014 at 03:21

    I wish we had seen more of Galifrey at the end.


    I'm a bit lost as to how Orson Pink got a family heirloom from The Doctor though. I feel like I missed something.

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  15. elle j.14 September 2014 at 03:54

    This episode did what I didn't think was possible for me. I've had a hard time connecting with Clara as a character and as a companion from pretty much day one ... until this episode. She clicked on all levels for me individually as well as with the Doctor and Danny. I consider the story arc with the Doctor and the Ponds as the standard to be upheld in terms of character and story development ... and I'm not talking strictly in terms of Doctor Who. To craft a story with a clear beginning, middle, and end all the while leaving little pieces of the puzzle here and there that you just know will fit into the bigger picture is a journey I really enjoy watching regardless of the genre. It's something in which Moffat excels. I've been waiting this season for that journey to begin. For me, "Listen" has started that journey and I'm excited to see where we go from here. At the end of this episode, I finally felt a cohesiveness to different aspects of the show starting from the writing to Jenna Coleman as Clara, Samuel Anderson as Danny, and last but not least Peter Capaldi as The Doctor.

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  16. prpleight14 September 2014 at 05:56

    I wasn’t particularly interested in this episode based solely on the previews..and then the Doctor wanders the TARDIS talking to himself giving me a reason to put off watching it. But the scene where the Doctor tells Clara about dreams (and basically telling us what this story is about) was really compelling. That was a creepy discussion.

    Geez. I haven’t been that kind of creeped out a scene since the first time I saw Blink. The whole while Clara is calming things down...there's nothing under the bed, come on down here and I'll prove it....then it sits on TOP of the bed. {shiver}

    I thought it was the worst date ever before Clara called Danny Rupert. Then it got worse. I've had bad dates but never that epically bad. :-)



    All that said....I'm not really sure I liked the reveal that it was about the Doctor's fears. It was a pretty awesome episode (good fake out that Danny is a Time Lord) though not perfect.

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  17. elle j.14 September 2014 at 06:40

    Orson got the toy soldier thanks to his great grandfather, Danny. It became the family heirloom passed down to the next generation for good luck. The toy soldier originally was one of many soldiers in a box that Danny played with as a boy. He must have taken the soldier with him when he left the home and held on to it for years. Orson gave the soldier to Clara because he knows she is family, even if Clara doesn't realize it yet. Of course, Clara gave the soldier to the young Doctor in the barn. My guess is this toy is something the Doctor has held onto and kept in the Tardis. At some point, I think we will see the Doctor return the toy in the box for young Danny to find. This toy is too important to too many people for it not to be returned to it's original place.

    What I find interesting is out of all the toy soldiers in the box, Danny gravitates to the one that is broken because it's missing the majority of the gun. The Doctor has always had an aversion to guns and a prejudice when it comes to soldiers. That's probably due to the adults who didn't think the young Doctor was strong enough for the army. Maybe it's just my imagination, but I swear the only part of the gun the toy soldier had in his hand is the very end of the barrell ... making it kind of look like a like a sonic screwdriver.

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  18. NiceGuyVan14 September 2014 at 07:07

    Well this just got added to my list of top favorite episodes. It my beyond my exception from last weeks promo. When I knew last week the episode was written by Steven Moffat and then it has one of those awesome One Word/command Title. I knew it was gonna be something special, and it was.

    I feel like this episode was talking to my mind. It got me. When The Doctor was talking about at the start I was like Holy Shit, this is the kinda of stuff Steven Moffat is thinking in his mind always. A bit like me, I think and theorize some of the craziest ideas/what if's and when I mention some to my friends they just go wtf are you talking about.



    But yea this episode had it all, the fear, the laughs, the connections.

    That bed scene was freaking scary awesome. Was it a bald kid, was it a It, or was it a perfect mystery, a perfect idea of fear.

    It was also nice seeing Clara's future, if concrete, it kinda gives you and idea of whats to come and what might happen so I liked that.

    And the end was awesome, I like the barn house connection.



    From the Start to the end this was awesome episode.

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  19. NiceGuyVan14 September 2014 at 07:09

    Wait what? 2nd ep with this doctor.

    I can't think about this anymore without hurting my mind.

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  20. Lord Nikon14 September 2014 at 09:12

    Awesome episode. Of all the things that they could have made, of all the things that they could have written i never expected this. It was awesome and unbelievable episode. From start to almost the end i was wondering what is it who is it and so on and i still was surprised. Awesome episode!

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  21. ViKi14 September 2014 at 09:49

    Jesus, another one with Clara as the center of the universe... Is now the Doctor the companion?

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  22. Sandi14 September 2014 at 12:07

    The soldier started life in the toy box in the Gloucester orphanage where Clara picked it out as the one to look over Rupert. Then it travelled through time normally until it got passed down to Rupert/Danny's great-grandson, Orson Pink, who took it with him for good luck in his time jump experiment, then it travelled with him forward to the end of time. This is where he gave it to Clara, hinting heavily that it belonged to her as it was a family heirloom. Then is travelled with her back in time to when the Doctor was a small boy and she left it with him. It didn't travel any further beyond that point and presumably became lost at some point, or is still kicking about in the TARDIS somewhere. It doesn't go on to be the one that Clara goes to give to young Rupert.

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  23. Morrigan_257514 September 2014 at 13:38

    How is that even remotely confusing?

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  24. Mia14 September 2014 at 14:39

    I loved this episode. It was creepy good. I really love the direction this season is going. It is refreshing imo.

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  25. NiceGuyVan14 September 2014 at 16:50

    Cuz this doctor has technically been in 6 epsiode and u said you only saw 2 of his episodes. And i correct in that assumption?

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  26. Mothman's Dog14 September 2014 at 17:11

    Stayed up to catch this at 2.30am... and then had difficutly getting to sleep. The opening scene had me wondering if one of the Silence was on board the TARDIS... and by the end of the episode I was contemplating killing the cat for intermittently rattling at the windows and doors throughout.

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  27. elle j.14 September 2014 at 18:45

    This is the fun of Doctor Who, trying to piece together bits of the story. The timeline in which Clara gave the Doctor the toy soldier happened before they encountered young Danny (Rupert) in the orphanage. That's how the Doctor was able to give Danny the speech about how being scared is like having a superpower. It's because the Doctor remembered the same speech Clara gave him as a child. Now, if he remembered the speech from all those years ago, I would think the Doctor would also recognize the toy soldier the dream lady left him. I think he did because the Doctor started pressing Clara about how she was connected to Danny after they left the orphanage. I think the Doctor also realized Clara was the dream lady from his childhood. That's why he followed Clara's order to leave and not ask any questions when she returned to the Tardis from the barn. It's like the Doctor told Clara at the beginning of the episode that it would potentially be catastrophic is she was to meet her younger self. Anyway long story short, my interpretation is that at some point in time the Doctor will have to return the soldier to the toy box in the orphanage. That woud maintain the timeline for Danny to play with the soldier, for Clara to find it, and for the Doctor to be inspired to give Danny the dream of Soldier Dan to scramble his memory of Clara and the Doctor being in his room. Last but not least, it would allow the toy to be passed down from Danny to Orson so Clara could find it once again and give it to the young Doctor

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  28. Sandi14 September 2014 at 18:59

    I think you are thinking about time too linearly, where as (the 10th Doctor would say) it's more a blob of wibbly wobbly timey wimey stuff. The soldier did not start in the young Doctor's time line, it started in Rupert's and ended in the Doctor's, that is exactly how we saw it pan out in the episode. The Doctor did not put the soldier in Rupert's toy set as far as we know at present. If he had it would make it a paradox, much like Locke's watch in Lost, and Who doesn't generally do paradoxes. It barely gets away with Clara's speech being one as it's something along the lines that just about every parent has said to their child at some point, and it's emotion works on so many levels that most fans let it slide.

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  29. elle j.14 September 2014 at 19:03

    As much as I loved this episode, I kind of thought Clara inspiring the Doctor's personal motto may have been a bit much. I loved the idea of the Doctor realizing himself that he should never be cruel or cowardly ... always kind.

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  30. elle j.14 September 2014 at 19:37

    I agree the toy didn't start in the Doctor's timeline. It's just a plastic soldier that Danny played with in the orphanage and kept into his adulthood. However, the toy became a part of the Doctor's timeline all the way from when he was a boy thanks to Clara coming across it a second time in the Tardis. Kind of like how Clara didn't start in the Doctor's timeline, but she is now a part of it all the way back to when he was a child thanks to time travel. Here's where I think the wibbly wobbly timey wimey stuff comes into play. For everyone's timeline to stay intact, Danny has to find the toy in the box at the orphanage. Since the Doctor's timeline happened before Danny's, I would think the Doctor would have to make sure the toy finds its way back into the box for Danny to discover it. Kind of like how Sally Sparrow gave the Doctor the folder that had the transcript in "Blink" so the Doctor could make the easter egg recordings for Sally to find in her DVDs. In Sally's timeline, finding the Doctor's recordings happened first. In the Doctor's timeline, Sally giving him the folder so he could make the recordings happened first. I am now officially overthinking this, but having fun at the same time. I'm not discounting you could be right and that the toy On a side note, I don't get the Lost reference because I think I am the only person who hasn't seen one episode of this show.

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  31. elle j.14 September 2014 at 19:42

    I have to respond to my own post because I got locked out and can't edit the last two sentences. Picking up to my last thought ... Sandi, you could be right and the toy soldier simply remains in the Doctor's timeline ... and I still don't get the Lost reference. :)

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  32. Sandi14 September 2014 at 19:43

    I think you are getting muddled by thinking that the Doctor's and the toy soldier's timeline are the same, they are not. The soldier travelled back in time, *after* being Rupert/Danny's and Orson's, to get to the Doctor. The Doctor has it after they do, not before in that regard :)

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  33. Sandi14 September 2014 at 19:52

    Hmm, basically there was a character called Locke who was given a watch, and then he got sent back in time. He passed that watch to another character, who then gave the watch back to the later Locke in the first scene repeated again.


    Basically it's an example of a predestination paradox, the watch has no beginning or end, it's never made it just exists continually in the time loop between the two characters. Which is what you are suggesting if the Doctor puts the toy soldier in the box for Clara to give to Rupert.

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  34. ViKi14 September 2014 at 22:24

    Yeah... so Clara was the Doctor "monster" in his childhood and that... explains everything? Was she under that blanket, too?

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  35. Boris B15 September 2014 at 00:15

    He also dresses differently every episode while maintains the dark look.

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