I liked the interaction between Elijah and Marcel this episode. It was interesting how Elijah is just not interested in being friends at all. Rebekah's history was good, but it felt pretty redundant from previous flashbacks.
Wow. Well it was okay. Didn't leave me on the edge of my seat at all. Actually i was annoyed that they dragged out the story for 45 min straight. This was indeed, A LONG WAY BACK FROM HELL. There was a lotttt of talking. Not so much action. I only liked the last 10 min. I found it interesting AFTER Klaus was yelling "Rebekah Rebekah." Which i do admit that i loved hearing. B/c the way JoMo said it seemed completely different than the millions of ways we've heard him shout characters' names before. I mean THIS really sounded like he had a bone to pick with her...literally.
The last 10 min, it was all "Serial Killer after its' victim". The Shining meets Michael Myers. lol And i enjoyed Hayley smacking Celeste in the head! I was saying "YES! Thank you!" Wish we could've seen more of that. But i probably would've laughed through it b/c her baby bump has gotten so big now. It would be hilarious to see the prego woman torturing an extremely powerful "witch bitch."
I liked Klaus and Rebekah fighting. Forget the "tenderness" of their sibling bond broken. I love a good fight scene no matter the connection. And this is the first time we've ever seen Rebekah and Klaus actually fight. I mean her and him throwing punches at each other on a somewhat equal/not really equal ground, so that was enjoyable to me. I was all, Hell Yeah Rebekah! Haha
Enjoyed the Elijah/Marcel interaction. And how Elijah said he blamed himself for some time with the family falling apart. Also. Elijah stabbing Klaus in the chest, made me say "damn". But that was it. Other than that. Eh. Oh and btw, was anyone else, NOT looking at the scripture on Elijah, and just checking him out? No? Just me? lol
Woah at Rebekah being the one who sent Michael to New Orleans to kill Klaus so she could be with Marcel. Great reveal!
Sorry Klaus but I'm on Rebekah and Elijah's side on this one. Although, he is going to be outraged when he wakes up. So I guess now it will be Klaus vs. Elijah, Rebekah, and Marcel. This will be interesting.
And hell yeah to Hayley knocking out Celeste! Can't wait to see their chat.
I was wondering what Elijah would do that would make Klaus turn against him as well (and push him towards the werewolves instead) but siding with Rebekah & Marcel regarding bringing Mikael to town in order to have him killed will probably do it.
I hope Celeste just kills Hayley. There's no way Hayley should be able to do much of anything to her so Celeste should just kill her and be done with it.
TO is an attempt to make a bad horror movie from the 80’s, I saw gifs only and reminded me these new horror movies which all look the same including Open grave. They insist in making a psychological thriller, they shouldn’t dream so high. Want to see some real scary stuff, then go watch AHS, Teen Wolf (Jeff Davis you're ruining my life you evil genius bastard, but i love it), The Walking Dead...etc
I don't watch AHS. And i went with Michael b/c he was walking slow to kill her with something to stab her with. And he's my favorite serial killer, next to Freddy.
Huh?? You said, this episode for you was a cross between The Shining and AHS. I said, American Horror Story. I said i don't watch that. So i didn't compare this episode to that. From my previous post, i compared it to The Shining Meets Michael Myers. Hence the "he's my favorite serial killer" Next to Freddy, as in Freddy Krueger.
I don't know about the rest of you, but I really enjoyed this episode............I admit the two week break wasn't easy though! The asylum setting was going to remind us of AHS: Asylum. It's a great series well known to all including those who "allegedly" don't watch it have at least heard of it! The visual tributes to the "Shinning" were obvious, but fine............the episode director is clearly a Stanley Kubrick fan. Marcel did it for "Love", but he still has blood on his hands.............Bex on the other hand.............WOW, with a side of #0LY$#!T to go with it. No wonder Genevieve wants revenge (no spoilers). What Elijah had to do was messed up, but what chose did he have? Klaus was so enraged that he didn't want waste any time killing Genevieve (who really did Klaus no wrong, and Klaus may/should have realized it) and save his full efforts for the two "Forbidden Lovers" who had it coming and they both knew it! How about Bex giving Klaus the "Business End" of that pipe! And the "Wolf - Girl" way laying Celeste outside the asylum was cool and funny! So glad our show is back, and looking forward to next week! 4 THE ORIGINALS, THE COPIES, AND ALL THE REPEATS, I am Nobody!!!
I really liked this episode. Although it's so frustrating that Klaus doesn't realize if he wasn't an ass to the extreme that his sister never would have summoned their father. She was scared with good reason, can't say I wouldn't consider it in her situation. Anyways, do we know yet if there's a chance for these dead witches to die again so Davina, etc can return? I should really rewatch the last few episodes but I don't have time lately. :/
What I don't get is why Rebekah doesn't just leave town. She was off in Europe over the summer with Matt and Klaus couldn't have cared less and in fact told Elijah in the pilot that he hoped Rebekah would stay far away. Earlier in the season she announced she was leaving (and then never left) and instead decided to stay and plot against Klaus instead of just leaving and going back to Europe or something. I think there have been plenty of opportunities for Rebekah to leave Klaus and go get her own life but she never seems to actually do that and instead decides to stay with him and plot against him which then angers him and she winds up daggered. It seems like Rebekah could break the cycle and just leave if she really wanted to.
I think Davina may come back at the end of the season. We'll have to wait and see though. Maybe Celeste will actually die or something and that would bring back Davina.
Exactly! You took the words right out of my mouth. Rebecca is almost as much to blame for the twisted cycle she is locked in with her sibling. She plots against him because he daggers her and he daggers her because she plots against it and around and around they both go endlessly. She should have just gone back away and stayed away, getting on with her own life if she truly wants.
Genevieve was into Klaus- I did not see that coming. I wonder if she still feels that way, or if she's just using a former attraction to get his attention. Maybe we'll find out more about that in future episodes. I kept trying to figure out if Klaus reciprocates, or if he'll only ever resent her for being the messenger. It's obvious that he witnessed the other reveal that Rebekah infected both Genevieve and Celeste with influenza. I can't blame Genevieve for wanting revenge after everything Rebekah did to her. We now know that Celeste has been killed by both Klaus and Rebekah. That pretty much puts her in the same boat as Elena, doesn't it? The only difference is how they deal with it. I wonder if Klaus will even bother trying to kill Celeste or Genevieve now that he knows the whole story. He seems to be aiming his need for vengeance at Marcel and Rebekah, abandoning his need to fight witches for now. Obviously he'll calm down quick enough to spend time talking to Cami about 1920 with flashbacks.
A lot had been said about Klaus and Rebekah, so i am just going to speak about other moments i find worth mentioning. I hope Genevieve survives and becomes a LI for Klaus. If she survives the next 2-3 episodes of course. They have a lot of chemistry and she is a nice person, he can use her good influence on him. Plus her death was so terrible, i hate bekah, she shoud have just snapped her neck. Elijah really disappointed me this episode. Combined with haylijah storyline i am finding it harder and harder to like him. He stabbed Klaus with that horrific blade like it was nothing. So poor Rebekah absolutely cannot handle to get stabbed by Klaus but it's ok for Klaus to get stabbed twice in one day. Why didn't Elijah think it was traumatic for KLaus? And i have been meaning to point out that Julie really shoudln't have written herself into a corner making Klaus so unstoppable even Elijah can't snap his neck. Stefan and Damon kill each other all the time so Elijah shoiuld be able at least knock out Klaus. Now every time Julie will need to put Klaus in a time out she will have to come up with some twisted most likely horrible way to do so, like a scary weapon, mental torture, nasty hex etc. Also while i am enjoying the family drama i hope Julie will realise that after a while everything repetitive gets boring. If she keeps dragging out Mikaelsons issues for too long eventually this whole family business will become just another trinagle that will make us hate it. Damn i rewatched Hayley whacking Celeste like 5-6 times! it's just so satisfying))
I think he is still going after Celeste once he is no longer distracted by Rebekah. After all he ended up tortured thanks to her. I can't imagine him getting over it any time soo. But he is obviously ok with Genevieve's presence. I will not let myself go all Rachel Ray and jump on that boat until i know for sure she is not getting killed off soon. I am still angry at how they tricked me with Bekah/Oliver hook up.
OK, the witches are insanely boring and I don't see how their father is such a big threat that he deserved an entire just to reveal that Rebekah seeked his location.
I don't get the following: Why doesn't Rebecca/Marcel/Elijah tell Claus why they so often betray him: because Klaus is the one constantly betraying the others. Rebecca and Marcel want to be happy together and Klaus doesn't allow it, even punishes them when they try? Isn't that a good enough reason to betray Klaus? But do they tell them that? no!! It's so frustrating...
The synopsis for Episode 16 mentions Rebekah bonding with Hayley, and Julie Plec sort of hinted in an interview that the curse might get lifted. If things get bad enough between Klaus and his siblings, Rebekah might go out into the bayou and stay with Hayley, creating the opportunity for Rebekah and Oliver to have some kind of relationship. I think Celeste will go away on her own before Klaus has a chance to kill her. She's done it before. She might have left Sabine's body when Hayley attacked her. It was never explained exactly how that bit of mythology works. Hayley is supposed to get frustrated in the next episode and hold Sabine hostage. I can't see her being able to hold Celeste hostage for very long. Celeste is too powerful. I can't remember, did Klaus actually say that he wanted to kill Celeste again specifically? I think he only referenced her as being to blame for what was happening, and then he appeared to lose interest in her when Monique and Bastiana became more immediate threats. The first time Celeste was killed, she was basically in the wrong place at the wrong time, and then Rebekah ended up killing her in one of the worst ways possible for that same reason. After witnessing how Rebekah killed both Genevieve and Celeste, Klaus' priorities concerning the witches might change. He seemed more interested in killing off the witches Celeste resurrected. I don't think he even knew who Genevieve was, and now he has reason to identify with both her and Celeste on top of not wanting to hurt Elijah. Yes, I do think he cares enough not to kill someone Elijah loves in cold blood, and for the second time, now that his humanity is coming back. He never even expressly stated that he planned to kill Hayley. Rebekah is bringing out Klaus' vengeful side, but the EPs said that he would get softer because of the baby. I think it would be hard to predict right now what he'll do, other than hunt down Rebekah and Marcel.
I don't think Klaus actually killed Celeste though. He was standing in a field dueling with the gentry (and Celeste informed Elijah he was doing this so Elijah went to investigate) and when Elijah got to Klaus he was informed by Klaus that a witch round-up was taking place. Elijah then turned around and went to go find Celeste (because he suddenly became concerned about her safety) but someone had drowned her while he was off talking to Klaus and he found her right where he had left her.
I think it will be the opposite. I think Klaus will be the one who decides to go live with the werewolves because he'll have had it with Elijah & Rebekah (and Marcel) and decide to start over with his werewolf clan. He wanted to hybrids to become his new family (because he always felt unwanted by his parents and his maternal half-siblings) and that was a failure so now I think he might decide to give the werewolves a chance and see if they'd be a good "new" family.
I think a bigger question is whether it would be right to kill more witches just to bring back the teenage girls. The best solution is to put an end to the practice of murdering children, which means doing something about the spirits. The problem with the girls is that angry ancestral spirits are holding them hostage in limbo, but is it right to kill anyone else to actually resurrect the girls when they might come back like Monique? Resurrection has consequences, and Davina went psychotic before she was handed over to be sacrificed. The more humane solution would be to just find a way to free the girls' spirits from limbo. Too much damage has been done for it to be a good idea to play around with anything involving the Harvest anymore. It's starting to look more and more like Celeste is no longer a witch. She's been causing trouble in that coven, getting witches shunned for crimes they didn't commit, and causing these witches to commit suicide after she's done possessing them. I know people don't believe me when I theorize this because the writers have been skirting around any terminology for what Celeste has been doing, but I think Celeste made herself a traveler to save her own life. I could be wrong.
I agree with everything up to the part with Hayley. While Elijah was desperately searching for his family, Hayley took advantage of the time away from Klaus to manipulate Elijah into helping her find a way to lift the curse on the werewolves. Those werewolves are such an obsession with her that she will get the curse lifted even if it means a war that will tear the city apart. Hayley has done things like this before out of love for creatures that she doesn't even know. It's been established that Celeste is both a villain and a victim of two serial killers. I can't imagine why it's a good thing that Celeste was attacked by someone like Hayley.
If you watch the extended promo for the next episode, it looks like Elijah will be crying next to Klaus' bedside. I read in an article that Elijah will spend the first part of the episode trying to calm Klaus down by explaining why he stabbed him. I think stabbing Klaus hurt Elijah as much as it hurt him, or even moreso. It's probably because of things like this that Elijah and Klaus are pretty ironclad as brothers. It won't be so easy for the witches to tear them apart. In the end, the only solution could be for Rebekah to live apart from both of them, even though Elijah doesn't favor one sibling over the other. Klaus does need Elijah more than Rebekah does, though. Elijah's fixation on saving his family really centers more on finding a way to redeem Klaus, and I understand the show itself is supposed to center around Klaus' redemption. It might be part of the family's pattern over the centuries for Klaus and Elijah to be alone together at times. Celeste might, at some point, decide to tear Elijah and Hayley apart when she fails to make Elijah hate Klaus. I think Celeste is wrong to believe that Elijah would never forgive Klaus if he did something to Rebekah after everything Rebekah has done. Elijah would probably struggle with it for a long time, possibly decades or even centuries, but the Originals are going to live forever.
Other people had possession of weapons like that, and until the Original Witch did her damage, they had clear intentions of using one of those weapons on Klaus. More than one person was involved in Mikael's death because he didn't only pose a threat to Klaus. Now that Mikael is dead and there are no more of those weapons, the threat is gone. Klaus is upset about the betrayal and decades of deceit.
On a moral level I totally agree with what you said, all of it pretty much, but I just wish they'd used Davina more. Or longer. She was so awesome.
I'm really hoping the witches remain an integral part of the plot even if this show runs six or seven seasons, they are making out them out to be the villains which I dislike but they still kick ass haha.
Actually, Klaus has been softening over the past few months and has demonstrated that he doesn't care who gets involved with whom, as long as no one takes his family away from him. Rebekah and Marcel, as well as Elijah and Hayley, hide their feelings/affairs out of a fear that I believe to be a little exaggerated due to things that Klaus has done in the past. Klaus undoubtedly knows what's going on, and he still let Elijah and Rebekah back in the house and walked away laughing from Elijah's obviously fake apology. He knew Elijah just wanted to live under a roof with Hayley, and he gave Elijah what he wanted. Rebekah made the decision not to come back out of spite. The problem is a lack of communication about what exactly has changed since Klaus found out that he's about to be a father. Hayley asked him point blank if he's planning to kill her when the baby is born, and when he was unable to answer her, she automatically took it as a "yes" and proceeded to antagonize him. He looked like he was having some kind of inner struggle when she asked him that question. When was the last time Klaus ever talked about his feelings? He just couldn't explain to Hayley that he was afraid of losing the baby to her and Elijah. If Klaus wants to kill someone, he doesn't bother hiding that intention. Hayley wouldn't hurt the baby if she thinks the baby is what's keeping her alive. There was no reason for Klaus to keep quiet about it if he intended to kill her. He might not know what to do about her now.
I agree with you about Hayley. She doesn't care about Klaus, Rebekah or her own child and I think she'd have no problem betraying Elijah again. I thought at one point that she'd care more about the baby than she did about these werewolves but that turned out not to be the case because she's putting her life (and by extension the child's life in danger) by picking a fight with a witch she knows to be dangerous.
All she cares about is this obsession with those werewolves. At least she's consistent about it though (I just wish Elijah would realize it) - she's been obsessed with them since her character was introduced on TVD and it was her main motivation for betraying Tyler and working with Professor Shane (Shane knew where her birth parents were buried and would only tell her if she helped him with the hybrid slaughter for the expression triangle). I'm actually glad they didn't retcon her character and she's still just as manipulative as she was on TVD and she'll betray anyone to achieve her goal.
With Elijah - why didn't he just break Klaus' neck? If he really wanted to just knock Klaus out long enough for Marcel to grab Rebekah and get away that was a option since Klaus obviously didn't realize Elijah was behind him.
I agree about Celeste. I think she'll maybe find a way to use Hayley. I saw that Claire said yesterday (that in regards to the Hayley situation) that Elijah is in the wrong and I remember Daniel saying something similar as well. I wonder if Elijah will realize that his feelings for Hayley are solely because she's knocked up by his brother and not because of who she is as a person (he had no previous interaction with her prior to the pilot and still doesn't seem to realize who she really is and what she's capable of).
I think Hayley & Katherine have a lot of similar traits. They're both very manipulative and will do just about anything or screw over anyone to achieve their goals. When Elijah found out that Katherine fed Jeremy (someone who killed his brother and he should have killed himself) to Silas he dumped her so I wonder if when he realizes Hayley is the same way he'll start to lose interest in her as well.
It was said in an interview that Elijah has feelings for Hayley and he doesn't understand where they're coming from. That could just be a way of saying that Elijah needs a shrink because he keeps wanting things that his brother has. Another possibility that I've thought of is that something in the baby's blood could be drawing Elijah to Hayley, and any attraction will wane or disappear when the baby is born. It's hard to say exactly how or why the baby exists because the witches can't be trusted to give a proper explanation, and the witch who did the spell to figure out the species ended up dead before she could talk. Sometimes I wonder if, before fans started obsessing about Marcel, he might have initially been meant to be a disposable character, not intended to last beyond the first season. He started the war with the witches by interfering with the Harvest and then using Davina to exact tyranny over them, and his brutal antagonism of the werewolves has brought them to ally themselves with the witches against vampires in general. Even if Marcel starts to seem genuinely likable, that's usually about the time that characters get killed off on Julie Plec shows.
Maybe it was sometime during the witch round-up that Celeste put her "essence" in someone else's body to cheat death? Klaus did something that caused the witch roundup, but I can understand Celeste wanting to hurt him emotionally more than physically because it looks like she had to change species on account of him. I don't think she can say that he killed her, because I don't think she actually died. Only her first body died after she left it. She might have faked the drowning herself. Then she seemed like she was still peaceable until Rebekah gave her a slow, painful death. Celeste didn't become vengeful until after 1919, or maybe her rage became unmanageable over time as she kept possessing more and more bodies.
There's one thing that I don't understand, or maybe I do and I just think it's stupid. When Hayley was at the computer researching witches that Celeste had inhabited, Elijah said that he didn't recognize Clara, but he did have a brief yet intimate interaction with her. If the problem was that he didn't want Hayley to know, he could have just said that he saw the woman at a party in 1919. I don't understand why he kept quiet, unless more went on than what was shown in the flashback and he was ashamed of it for some reason. I wonder if Klaus will show Elijah what Genevieve and Celeste showed him, since the Originals have a habit of putting images into each other's heads as well as into humans and other vampires. Elijah has a large capacity for forgiveness, but Rebekah murdered two women to keep them quiet, and one of them turned out to be Celeste. Maybe that will be why Elijah is seen crying in the extended promo for next week. If Elijah knows everything that Rebekah did and gets the full impact of it, he still won't want to let Klaus hurt her, but he might form a better understanding of Klaus' outrage. I still can't figure out why Klaus had to see that particular part of the story before he got so upset. I don't think he's under any mind control to seek revenge. Celeste said that Klaus would want revenge as soon as he found out about Mikael. It just seems strange that while Klaus appears disinterested in Genevieve romantically, he seems to be identifying with one or both witches emotionally. Maybe his need for revenge isn't only about Mikael. I can't wait to see what exactly happened next when there are more flashbacks. I'm curious to see if Klaus stumbled onto Clara too at some point before she was killed.
I think part of the problem is that we're told Klaus tried to micro-manage their love lives but we've never really seen that on either show.
Klaus didn't care about Rebekah being with Stefan, Damon or Matt. He's also obviously known about Rebekah & Marcel for 200 years but he hasn't really done anything about that either - his concern was more that Marcel was plotting against him and I still think he was against it from the beginning because it's just weird to start dating a guy that you helped raise from the age of 10 (which is the case with Rebekah - she's known Marcel since he was a kid and she helped raised him so he's more or less her nephew).
Klaus didn't even really seem to care that much when he found out that Elijah had been hooking up with Katherine.
Now, I think he'll care about Hayley because she's knocked up with his child (and he's previously stated he's afraid that Hayley is going to raise the baby with Elijah and not him and that Elijah will take over his role as a father to the child) and I think he'd also have a problem if Elijah decided to start lusting after Caroline but if Elijah found someone new who Klaus hasn't been with I don't think he'd care.
I think it was just a long time and Elijah didn't remember it. They didn't have any significant interaction - she just spilled her drink and he handed her a napkin. It wasn't really a memorable incident and he probably didn't even know her name.
I think Celeste knew Klaus well enough to know that he'd react this way (as did Rebekah & Marcel which is why they never said anything) to the news. She made it clear that her first goal was to them against each other and she obviously knew how to go about doing that.
I am in the minority but I really liked Genevieve's chemistry with Klaus. Couple that with her tragic story and her past crush on Klaus and I already have a soft spot for her. If she isn't killed off needlessly in the upcoming episodes, I wouldn't mind in the least if she and Klaus get together.
Come to think of it, I don't hate the resurrected witches at all. They're all powerful and provide a strong challenge to the Originals.
You know what i liked about this episode was the kind of "personal hell" it reminded me to Coven , that was Rebekah`s hell, exposing her betrays to his brother and Genevieve (wich i loved i hope to see her in more episodes) ... Rebekah`s actions were wrong but she regreted at the end but it was too late and whatis the better way to resolve a problem around the original family¿? Yeah kill those who is in the way, i felt sorry for Genieve she really thought Rebekah was her friend and i think Rebekah really care about her but as always something went wrong... Hayley was great i cant wait to see what she is going to do to Celeste but c`mon she is a powerful witch i think Hayley will be in real trouble.... Elijah and that end was PERFECT!
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I liked the interaction between Elijah and Marcel this episode. It was interesting how Elijah is just not interested in being friends at all. Rebekah's history was good, but it felt pretty redundant from previous flashbacks.
ReplyDeleteFreaking awesome Hayley.
Klaus is going to be so pissed when he wakes up.
it was good-ish but one important thing as long Rebekah is alive in #TheOriginals i'll keep watching it once she is out im out also #sorrynotsorry
ReplyDeleteWow. Well it was okay. Didn't leave me on the edge of my seat at all. Actually i was annoyed that they dragged out the story for 45 min straight. This was indeed, A LONG WAY BACK FROM HELL. There was a lotttt of talking. Not so much action. I only liked the last 10 min. I found it interesting AFTER Klaus was yelling "Rebekah Rebekah." Which i do admit that i loved hearing. B/c the way JoMo said it seemed completely different than the millions of ways we've heard him shout characters' names before. I mean THIS really sounded like he had a bone to pick with her...literally.
ReplyDeleteThe last 10 min, it was all "Serial Killer after its' victim". The Shining meets Michael Myers. lol And i enjoyed Hayley smacking Celeste in the head! I was saying "YES! Thank you!" Wish we could've seen more of that. But i probably would've laughed through it b/c her baby bump has gotten so big now. It would be hilarious to see the prego woman torturing an extremely powerful "witch bitch."
I liked Klaus and Rebekah fighting. Forget the "tenderness" of their sibling bond broken. I love a good fight scene no matter the connection. And this is the first time we've ever seen Rebekah and Klaus actually fight. I mean her and him throwing punches at each other on a somewhat equal/not really equal ground, so that was enjoyable to me. I was all, Hell Yeah Rebekah! Haha
Enjoyed the Elijah/Marcel interaction. And how Elijah said he blamed himself for some time with the family falling apart. Also. Elijah stabbing Klaus in the chest, made me say "damn". But that was it. Other than that. Eh. Oh and btw, was anyone else, NOT looking at the scripture on Elijah, and just checking him out? No? Just me? lol
Great episode!
ReplyDeleteWoah at Rebekah being the one who sent Michael to New Orleans to kill Klaus so she could be with Marcel. Great reveal!
Sorry Klaus but I'm on Rebekah and Elijah's side on this one. Although, he is going to be outraged when he wakes up. So I guess now it will be Klaus vs. Elijah, Rebekah, and Marcel. This will be interesting.
And hell yeah to Hayley knocking out Celeste! Can't wait to see their chat.
I was wondering what Elijah would do that would make Klaus turn against him as well (and push him towards the werewolves instead) but siding with Rebekah & Marcel regarding bringing Mikael to town in order to have him killed will probably do it.
ReplyDeleteI hope Celeste just kills Hayley. There's no way Hayley should be able to do much of anything to her so Celeste should just kill her and be done with it.
Well that was some creepy episode with Reb...Poor her. Cant stand Genevieve.
ReplyDeleteJoseph Morgan plays so well as a villain wow
Go Hayley u rock!
TO is an attempt to make a bad horror movie from the 80’s, I saw gifs only and reminded me these new horror movies which all look the same including Open grave. They insist in making a psychological thriller, they shouldn’t dream so high. Want to see some real scary stuff, then go watch AHS, Teen Wolf (Jeff Davis you're ruining my life you evil genius bastard, but i love it), The Walking Dead...etc
ReplyDeleteThe Originals 1x14 was kind of a cheap copy of AHS: Asylum & The Shining, tbh.
ReplyDeletei think the only good thing about the episode was mentioning the name of Kol Mikaelson and Elijah saving the day at the end
I don't watch AHS. And i went with Michael b/c he was walking slow to kill her with something to stab her with. And he's my favorite serial killer, next to Freddy.
ReplyDeleteok i don't follow. what show are we taling here?
ReplyDeleteHuh?? You said, this episode for you was a cross between The Shining and AHS. I said, American Horror Story. I said i don't watch that. So i didn't compare this episode to that. From my previous post, i compared it to The Shining Meets Michael Myers. Hence the "he's my favorite serial killer" Next to Freddy, as in Freddy Krueger.
ReplyDeleteI don't know about the rest of you, but I really enjoyed this episode............I admit the two week break wasn't easy though! The asylum setting was going to remind us of AHS: Asylum. It's a great series well known to all including those who "allegedly" don't watch it have at least heard of it! The visual tributes to the "Shinning" were obvious, but fine............the episode director is clearly a Stanley Kubrick fan. Marcel did it for "Love", but he still has blood on his hands.............Bex on the other hand.............WOW, with a side of #0LY$#!T to go with it. No wonder Genevieve wants revenge (no spoilers). What Elijah had to do was messed up, but what chose did he have? Klaus was so enraged that he didn't want waste any time killing Genevieve (who really did Klaus no wrong, and Klaus may/should have realized it) and save his full efforts for the two "Forbidden Lovers" who had it coming and they both knew it! How about Bex giving Klaus the "Business End" of that pipe! And the "Wolf - Girl" way laying Celeste outside the asylum was cool and funny! So glad our show is back, and looking forward to next week! 4 THE ORIGINALS, THE COPIES, AND ALL THE REPEATS, I am Nobody!!!
ReplyDeleteI really liked this episode. Although it's so frustrating that Klaus doesn't realize if he wasn't an ass to the extreme that his sister never would have summoned their father. She was scared with good reason, can't say I wouldn't consider it in her situation. Anyways, do we know yet if there's a chance for these dead witches to die again so Davina, etc can return? I should really rewatch the last few episodes but I don't have time lately. :/
ReplyDeleteWhat I don't get is why Rebekah doesn't just leave town. She was off in Europe over the summer with Matt and Klaus couldn't have cared less and in fact told Elijah in the pilot that he hoped Rebekah would stay far away. Earlier in the season she announced she was leaving (and then never left) and instead decided to stay and plot against Klaus instead of just leaving and going back to Europe or something. I think there have been plenty of opportunities for Rebekah to leave Klaus and go get her own life but she never seems to actually do that and instead decides to stay with him and plot against him which then angers him and she winds up daggered. It seems like Rebekah could break the cycle and just leave if she really wanted to.
ReplyDeleteI think Davina may come back at the end of the season. We'll have to wait and see though. Maybe Celeste will actually die or something and that would bring back Davina.
Exactly! You took the words right out of my mouth. Rebecca is almost as much to blame for the twisted cycle she is locked in with her sibling. She plots against him because he daggers her and he daggers her because she plots against it and around and around they both go endlessly. She should have just gone back away and stayed away, getting on with her own life if she truly wants.
ReplyDeleteGenevieve was into Klaus- I did not see that coming. I wonder if she still feels that way, or if she's just using a former attraction to get his attention. Maybe we'll find out more about that in future episodes. I kept trying to figure out if Klaus reciprocates, or if he'll only ever resent her for being the messenger. It's obvious that he witnessed the other reveal that Rebekah infected both Genevieve and Celeste with influenza. I can't blame Genevieve for wanting revenge after everything Rebekah did to her. We now know that Celeste has been killed by both Klaus and Rebekah. That pretty much puts her in the same boat as Elena, doesn't it? The only difference is how they deal with it. I wonder if Klaus will even bother trying to kill Celeste or Genevieve now that he knows the whole story. He seems to be aiming his need for vengeance at Marcel and Rebekah, abandoning his need to fight witches for now. Obviously he'll calm down quick enough to spend time talking to Cami about 1920 with flashbacks.
ReplyDeleteA lot had been said about Klaus and Rebekah, so i am just going to speak about other moments i find worth mentioning.
ReplyDeleteI hope Genevieve survives and becomes a LI for Klaus. If she survives the next 2-3 episodes of course. They have a lot of chemistry and she is a nice person, he can use her good influence on him. Plus her death was so terrible, i hate bekah, she shoud have just snapped her neck.
Elijah really disappointed me this episode. Combined with haylijah storyline i am finding it harder and harder to like him.
He stabbed Klaus with that horrific blade like it was nothing. So poor Rebekah absolutely cannot handle to get stabbed by Klaus but it's ok for Klaus to get stabbed twice in one day. Why didn't Elijah think it was traumatic for KLaus?
And i have been meaning to point out that Julie really shoudln't have written herself into a corner making Klaus so unstoppable even Elijah can't snap his neck. Stefan and Damon kill each other all the time so Elijah shoiuld be able at least knock out Klaus.
Now every time Julie will need to put Klaus in a time out she will have to come up with some twisted most likely horrible way to do so, like a scary weapon, mental torture, nasty hex etc.
Also while i am enjoying the family drama i hope Julie will realise that after a while everything repetitive gets boring. If she keeps dragging out Mikaelsons issues for too long eventually this whole family business will become just another trinagle that will make us hate it.
Damn i rewatched Hayley whacking Celeste like 5-6 times! it's just so satisfying))
I think he is still going after Celeste once he is no longer distracted by Rebekah. After all he ended up tortured thanks to her. I can't imagine him getting over it any time soo. But he is obviously ok with Genevieve's presence. I will not let myself go all Rachel Ray and jump on that boat until i know for sure she is not getting killed off soon. I am still angry at how they tricked me with Bekah/Oliver hook up.
ReplyDeleteOK, the witches are insanely boring and I don't see how their father is such a big threat that he deserved an entire just to reveal that Rebekah seeked his location.
ReplyDeleteIt was influenza? The way people were violently dying I thought maybe it was supposed to be TB.
ReplyDeleteI agree. Mikael is dead. Klaus' reaction to everything that happened in 1919 obviously has something to do with some personal issues.
ReplyDeleteI don't get the following:
ReplyDeleteWhy doesn't Rebecca/Marcel/Elijah tell Claus why they so often betray him:
because Klaus is the one constantly betraying the others.
Rebecca and Marcel want to be happy together and Klaus doesn't allow it, even punishes them when they try?
Isn't that a good enough reason to betray Klaus? But do they tell them that? no!!
It's so frustrating...
Mikael was in possession of the only known weapon that could kill an Original and he made it he's life's mission to kill Klaus with it.
ReplyDeleteThe synopsis for Episode 16 mentions Rebekah bonding with Hayley, and Julie Plec sort of hinted in an interview that the curse might get lifted. If things get bad enough between Klaus and his siblings, Rebekah might go out into the bayou and stay with Hayley, creating the opportunity for Rebekah and Oliver to have some kind of relationship. I think Celeste will go away on her own before Klaus has a chance to kill her. She's done it before. She might have left Sabine's body when Hayley attacked her. It was never explained exactly how that bit of mythology works. Hayley is supposed to get frustrated in the next episode and hold Sabine hostage. I can't see her being able to hold Celeste hostage for very long. Celeste is too powerful. I can't remember, did Klaus actually say that he wanted to kill Celeste again specifically? I think he only referenced her as being to blame for what was happening, and then he appeared to lose interest in her when Monique and Bastiana became more immediate threats. The first time Celeste was killed, she was basically in the wrong place at the wrong time, and then Rebekah ended up killing her in one of the worst ways possible for that same reason. After witnessing how Rebekah killed both Genevieve and Celeste, Klaus' priorities concerning the witches might change. He seemed more interested in killing off the witches Celeste resurrected. I don't think he even knew who Genevieve was, and now he has reason to identify with both her and Celeste on top of not wanting to hurt Elijah. Yes, I do think he cares enough not to kill someone Elijah loves in cold blood, and for the second time, now that his humanity is coming back. He never even expressly stated that he planned to kill Hayley. Rebekah is bringing out Klaus' vengeful side, but the EPs said that he would get softer because of the baby. I think it would be hard to predict right now what he'll do, other than hunt down Rebekah and Marcel.
ReplyDeleteI don't think Klaus actually killed Celeste though. He was standing in a field dueling with the gentry (and Celeste informed Elijah he was doing this so Elijah went to investigate) and when Elijah got to Klaus he was informed by Klaus that a witch round-up was taking place. Elijah then turned around and went to go find Celeste (because he suddenly became concerned about her safety) but someone had drowned her while he was off talking to Klaus and he found her right where he had left her.
ReplyDeleteI think it will be the opposite. I think Klaus will be the one who decides to go live with the werewolves because he'll have had it with Elijah & Rebekah (and Marcel) and decide to start over with his werewolf clan. He wanted to hybrids to become his new family (because he always felt unwanted by his parents and his maternal half-siblings) and that was a failure so now I think he might decide to give the werewolves a chance and see if they'd be a good "new" family.
ReplyDeleteI think a bigger question is whether it would be right to kill more witches just to bring back the teenage girls. The best solution is to put an end to the practice of murdering children, which means doing something about the spirits. The problem with the girls is that angry ancestral spirits are holding them hostage in limbo, but is it right to kill anyone else to actually resurrect the girls when they might come back like Monique? Resurrection has consequences, and Davina went psychotic before she was handed over to be sacrificed. The more humane solution would be to just find a way to free the girls' spirits from limbo. Too much damage has been done for it to be a good idea to play around with anything involving the Harvest anymore. It's starting to look more and more like Celeste is no longer a witch. She's been causing trouble in that coven, getting witches shunned for crimes they didn't commit, and causing these witches to commit suicide after she's done possessing them. I know people don't believe me when I theorize this because the writers have been skirting around any terminology for what Celeste has been doing, but I think Celeste made herself a traveler to save her own life. I could be wrong.
ReplyDeleteI agree with everything up to the part with Hayley. While Elijah was desperately searching for his family, Hayley took advantage of the time away from Klaus to manipulate Elijah into helping her find a way to lift the curse on the werewolves. Those werewolves are such an obsession with her that she will get the curse lifted even if it means a war that will tear the city apart. Hayley has done things like this before out of love for creatures that she doesn't even know. It's been established that Celeste is both a villain and a victim of two serial killers. I can't imagine why it's a good thing that Celeste was attacked by someone like Hayley.
ReplyDeleteIf you watch the extended promo for the next episode, it looks like Elijah will be crying next to Klaus' bedside. I read in an article that Elijah will spend the first part of the episode trying to calm Klaus down by explaining why he stabbed him. I think stabbing Klaus hurt Elijah as much as it hurt him, or even moreso. It's probably because of things like this that Elijah and Klaus are pretty ironclad as brothers. It won't be so easy for the witches to tear them apart. In the end, the only solution could be for Rebekah to live apart from both of them, even though Elijah doesn't favor one sibling over the other. Klaus does need Elijah more than Rebekah does, though. Elijah's fixation on saving his family really centers more on finding a way to redeem Klaus, and I understand the show itself is supposed to center around Klaus' redemption. It might be part of the family's pattern over the centuries for Klaus and Elijah to be alone together at times. Celeste might, at some point, decide to tear Elijah and Hayley apart when she fails to make Elijah hate Klaus. I think Celeste is wrong to believe that Elijah would never forgive Klaus if he did something to Rebekah after everything Rebekah has done. Elijah would probably struggle with it for a long time, possibly decades or even centuries, but the Originals are going to live forever.
Other people had possession of weapons like that, and until the Original Witch did her damage, they had clear intentions of using one of those weapons on Klaus. More than one person was involved in Mikael's death because he didn't only pose a threat to Klaus. Now that Mikael is dead and there are no more of those weapons, the threat is gone. Klaus is upset about the betrayal and decades of deceit.
ReplyDeleteOn a moral level I totally agree with what you said, all of it pretty much, but I just wish they'd used Davina more. Or longer. She was so awesome.
ReplyDeleteI'm really hoping the witches remain an integral part of the plot even if this show runs six or seven seasons, they are making out them out to be the villains which I dislike but they still kick ass haha.
Actually, Klaus has been softening over the past few months and has demonstrated that he doesn't care who gets involved with whom, as long as no one takes his family away from him. Rebekah and Marcel, as well as Elijah and Hayley, hide their feelings/affairs out of a fear that I believe to be a little exaggerated due to things that Klaus has done in the past. Klaus undoubtedly knows what's going on, and he still let Elijah and Rebekah back in the house and walked away laughing from Elijah's obviously fake apology. He knew Elijah just wanted to live under a roof with Hayley, and he gave Elijah what he wanted. Rebekah made the decision not to come back out of spite. The problem is a lack of communication about what exactly has changed since Klaus found out that he's about to be a father. Hayley asked him point blank if he's planning to kill her when the baby is born, and when he was unable to answer her, she automatically took it as a "yes" and proceeded to antagonize him. He looked like he was having some kind of inner struggle when she asked him that question. When was the last time Klaus ever talked about his feelings? He just couldn't explain to Hayley that he was afraid of losing the baby to her and Elijah. If Klaus wants to kill someone, he doesn't bother hiding that intention. Hayley wouldn't hurt the baby if she thinks the baby is what's keeping her alive. There was no reason for Klaus to keep quiet about it if he intended to kill her. He might not know what to do about her now.
ReplyDeleteThere's still a white oak stake around. Klaus stashed it somewhere - Esther made it indestructible and it was used to kill Kol.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you about Hayley. She doesn't care about Klaus, Rebekah or her own child and I think she'd have no problem betraying Elijah again. I thought at one point that she'd care more about the baby than she did about these werewolves but that turned out not to be the case because she's putting her life (and by extension the child's life in danger) by picking a fight with a witch she knows to be dangerous.
ReplyDeleteAll she cares about is this obsession with those werewolves. At least she's consistent about it though (I just wish Elijah would realize it) - she's been obsessed with them since her character was introduced on TVD and it was her main motivation for betraying Tyler and working with Professor Shane (Shane knew where her birth parents were buried and would only tell her if she helped him with the hybrid slaughter for the expression triangle). I'm actually glad they didn't retcon her character and she's still just as manipulative as she was on TVD and she'll betray anyone to achieve her goal.
With Elijah - why didn't he just break Klaus' neck? If he really wanted to just knock Klaus out long enough for Marcel to grab Rebekah and get away that was a option since Klaus obviously didn't realize Elijah was behind him.
I agree about Celeste. I think she'll maybe find a way to use Hayley. I saw that Claire said yesterday (that in regards to the Hayley situation) that Elijah is in the wrong and I remember Daniel saying something similar as well. I wonder if Elijah will realize that his feelings for Hayley are solely because she's knocked up by his brother and not because of who she is as a person (he had no previous interaction with her prior to the pilot and still doesn't seem to realize who she really is and what she's capable of).
I think Hayley & Katherine have a lot of similar traits. They're both very manipulative and will do just about anything or screw over anyone to achieve their goals. When Elijah found out that Katherine fed Jeremy (someone who killed his brother and he should have killed himself) to Silas he dumped her so I wonder if when he realizes Hayley is the same way he'll start to lose interest in her as well.
It was said in an interview that Elijah has feelings for Hayley and he doesn't understand where they're coming from. That could just be a way of saying that Elijah needs a shrink because he keeps wanting things that his brother has. Another possibility that I've thought of is that something in the baby's blood could be drawing Elijah to Hayley, and any attraction will wane or disappear when the baby is born. It's hard to say exactly how or why the baby exists because the witches can't be trusted to give a proper explanation, and the witch who did the spell to figure out the species ended up dead before she could talk. Sometimes I wonder if, before fans started obsessing about Marcel, he might have initially been meant to be a disposable character, not intended to last beyond the first season. He started the war with the witches by interfering with the Harvest and then using Davina to exact tyranny over them, and his brutal antagonism of the werewolves has brought them to ally themselves with the witches against vampires in general. Even if Marcel starts to seem genuinely likable, that's usually about the time that characters get killed off on Julie Plec shows.
ReplyDeleteMaybe it was sometime during the witch round-up that Celeste put her "essence" in someone else's body to cheat death? Klaus did something that caused the witch roundup, but I can understand Celeste wanting to hurt him emotionally more than physically because it looks like she had to change species on account of him. I don't think she can say that he killed her, because I don't think she actually died. Only her first body died after she left it. She might have faked the drowning herself. Then she seemed like she was still peaceable until Rebekah gave her a slow, painful death. Celeste didn't become vengeful until after 1919, or maybe her rage became unmanageable over time as she kept possessing more and more bodies.
ReplyDeleteThere's one thing that I don't understand, or maybe I do and I just think it's stupid. When Hayley was at the computer researching witches that Celeste had inhabited, Elijah said that he didn't recognize Clara, but he did have a brief yet intimate interaction with her. If the problem was that he didn't want Hayley to know, he could have just said that he saw the woman at a party in 1919. I don't understand why he kept quiet, unless more went on than what was shown in the flashback and he was ashamed of it for some reason. I wonder if Klaus will show Elijah what Genevieve and Celeste showed him, since the Originals have a habit of putting images into each other's heads as well as into humans and other vampires. Elijah has a large capacity for forgiveness, but Rebekah murdered two women to keep them quiet, and one of them turned out to be Celeste. Maybe that will be why Elijah is seen crying in the extended promo for next week. If Elijah knows everything that Rebekah did and gets the full impact of it, he still won't want to let Klaus hurt her, but he might form a better understanding of Klaus' outrage. I still can't figure out why Klaus had to see that particular part of the story before he got so upset. I don't think he's under any mind control to seek revenge. Celeste said that Klaus would want revenge as soon as he found out about Mikael. It just seems strange that while Klaus appears disinterested in Genevieve romantically, he seems to be identifying with one or both witches emotionally. Maybe his need for revenge isn't only about Mikael. I can't wait to see what exactly happened next when there are more flashbacks. I'm curious to see if Klaus stumbled onto Clara too at some point before she was killed.
I think part of the problem is that we're told Klaus tried to micro-manage their love lives but we've never really seen that on either show.
ReplyDeleteKlaus didn't care about Rebekah being with Stefan, Damon or Matt. He's also obviously known about Rebekah & Marcel for 200 years but he hasn't really done anything about that either - his concern was more that Marcel was plotting against him and I still think he was against it from the beginning because it's just weird to start dating a guy that you helped raise from the age of 10 (which is the case with Rebekah - she's known Marcel since he was a kid and she helped raised him so he's more or less her nephew).
Klaus didn't even really seem to care that much when he found out that Elijah had been hooking up with Katherine.
Now, I think he'll care about Hayley because she's knocked up with his child (and he's previously stated he's afraid that Hayley is going to raise the baby with Elijah and not him and that Elijah will take over his role as a father to the child) and I think he'd also have a problem if Elijah decided to start lusting after Caroline but if Elijah found someone new who Klaus hasn't been with I don't think he'd care.
I think it was just a long time and Elijah didn't remember it. They didn't have any significant interaction - she just spilled her drink and he handed her a napkin. It wasn't really a memorable incident and he probably didn't even know her name.
ReplyDeleteI think Celeste knew Klaus well enough to know that he'd react this way (as did Rebekah & Marcel which is why they never said anything) to the news. She made it clear that her first goal was to them against each other and she obviously knew how to go about doing that.
I am in the minority but I really liked Genevieve's chemistry with
ReplyDeleteKlaus. Couple that with her tragic story and her past crush on Klaus and
I already have a soft spot for her. If she isn't killed off needlessly
in the upcoming episodes, I wouldn't mind in the least if she and Klaus
get together.
Come to think of it, I don't hate the resurrected witches at all. They're all powerful and provide a strong challenge to the Originals.
You know what i liked about this episode was the kind of "personal hell" it reminded me to Coven , that was Rebekah`s hell, exposing her betrays to his brother and Genevieve (wich i loved i hope to see her in more episodes) ... Rebekah`s actions were wrong but she regreted at the end but it was too late and whatis the better way to resolve a problem around the original family¿?
ReplyDeleteYeah kill those who is in the way, i felt sorry for Genieve she really thought Rebekah was her friend and i think Rebekah really care about her but as always something went wrong...
Hayley was great i cant wait to see what she is going to do to Celeste but c`mon she is a powerful witch i think Hayley will be in real trouble....
Elijah and that end was PERFECT!
Michael was determined to kill Klaus , He was probably the only person ever feared because he abused Klaus as a child.
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