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USD POLL : Who Should Emma End Up With on OUAT?
26 Nov 2013
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Lol at Regina being an option ahah.
ReplyDeleteAnyway I've voted for Hook although it will never happen and I will move away from this thread now before all hell breaks loose here!
I know I'm probably going to get a lot of thumbs down for this but I don't care. I don't understand the love that everyone seems to have for Hook. He is nothing but a manipulative bully! Neal on the other hand deserves her. He was willing to let her go and do whatever it took for her to break the curse - which was putting her in jail to start with.
ReplyDeleteLOL at Hook being an option #swanqueen
ReplyDeleteMaybe Hansel That Would Be Interesting.
ReplyDeleteI ship Swanqueen but prefer Neal over Hook any day.
ReplyDeleteI wanted to vote for Hook and no one but I can't... Because I love CS but single and old Emma with cats is a good option
ReplyDeleteAnyway don't start a debate the only person that didn't hurt Emma directly or not is Graham and he's dead.
ReplyDeleteBad idea. Dear Abbs Juma, why are you looking to start a shipping war? :/ And why, on earth, did you have to include the most controversial ships?! The most aggressive shippers in the OUAT fandom are exactly people who are obsessed with these ships, and some of them have repeatedly insulted the cast. Frankly, they're just ruining the fandom experience for me.
ReplyDeleteAnyway, personally, I don't care about Emma's love life at all.
I don't care about Emma's love life at all.As long as her storyline will be well written.
ReplyDeleteSame. An SQ relationship would bring the core characters even closer. They wouldn't be off into 110 different directions but interacting with each other more. That is something the show is sorely missing. They simply don't talk with each other and things that could have bigger impacts just get lost.
ReplyDeletePlus I really, really want to see Snow's face when she finds out.
Bless.
ReplyDeleteWTH!? Regina?
ReplyDeleteI voted captain swan. Hook has risked his life for Emma in many ways. He may be a "villian", but like Regina, he deserves love. He and Emma understand each other. Emma has helped him become a 'man of honor' who believes in good form and not just a pirate. He even told her that he'll win her heart without trickory.
ReplyDeleteEven I ship one of them I have to agree Shipping wars are stupid (and haters even more) ans a poll Mike that will surely bring the worst
ReplyDeleteI think anyone has their reasons to ship what they ship. I personally ship swan queen, and I just couldn't imagine Emma with anyone else. Plus, FOR ME Emma is a soft butch lesbian since the pilot when she was walking awkwardly in heels and punching that guy in the face, so her with a guy just makes me gag. But then again, that's me. I could ship swan thief when they first met, that one was cute... But Emma now isn't the Emma she used to be before prison...and that is just why I can't stand the idea of her being with Neal again. He is an ex, I don't think Emma would be with the guy that sent her to jail pregnant again, that's just plain stupid. I get that she is the two idiot's daughter, but that's just too much. Ok, so you say "but gabby, Regina effed up her parents lives and made them put her in a box and ship her to Maine." Yeah, but Emma doesn't blame her. We can see it in the show that Emma blames snow and David for that, an not Regina. That's because Regina didn't affect her directly as much. Of course, there was that apple turnover, but she has been kicked in the butt for that anyway. It's just how Emma sees it and in who she puts the blame in.
ReplyDeletePlus, you can ship them for whatever reason you like, but lesbihonest, we all just want to see Snow's face when she finds out about her little princess and the evil queen
ReplyDeleteAugust!
ReplyDeleteI voted for Regina cause I'm Surprised its even on their. I keep imagining a Remma (the ship name i gave them) wedding and I'm totally liking it
ReplyDeleteOnly Regina measures up. ps - does anyone else think Regina and Hook look like they're related?
ReplyDeleteLoved the Regina option ! Wish the show would consider it even as a hook up . I voted for Hook even though i think they will pair her with Neil. Too bad IMO
ReplyDeleteIf i was Henry i would love to have my mom and dad together.
ReplyDeleteNot someone else.
So Neal 1000% Family Is everything.
poor Emma, most fans see her only as a sex toy....sad.
ReplyDeleteThat being said - Regina, because it would be risky, brave and challenging storyline.
Didn't we just have a poll very similar to this a short while ago
ReplyDeleteRegina! #swanqueenftw
ReplyDeletethanks :)
ReplyDeleteTotally agree ! Plus OUAT is not just about the "ships" ! There is a whole story around...
ReplyDeleteTo put Regina with Emma just to please the public? While the story took a different direction? It's just the fury of fans who want this ship for bad reasons ! In season 1 I wouldn't say that because SQ could be done, but now it has no longer any sense with the arrival of Outlaw Queen, Emma still in love with Neal, and her crush on Hook...
This poll is useless ! We all know the public will always prefer SQ but Adam and Eddy were clear about that : SQ will never happen ... at least not romantically !
haha there are a lot of swanqueen on spoilerTV ! we all know emma will end up with neal.
ReplyDeletewell emma seems to feel something for him, but it's gonna end up with emma and neal.
ReplyDeleteit won't gonna happen, emma and regina hate each other since they met (if even in the neverland storyline they don't really show it because they're on a common goal to get henry back)...
ReplyDeleteWell, Hook and Emma are cannon, so why wouldn't it be an option? I don't feel nearly passionate enough about this at all to argue about it, I was just commenting that I thought it was funny that a non cannon pairing was included as an option here.
ReplyDeletewho said the public will always prefer SQ ? i think there are far more CS or SF shippers amongs oncer (they just don't say show it on twitter or thumblr like SQ shippers)
ReplyDeletelove life in tv shows are lame, i like the fact that emma don't care about finding love right now.
ReplyDeletei'm sorry dearie i liked graham but dead is dead and i think that's a good rule to keep for any tv show (cause if people start to cheat on death the show would be annoying)
ReplyDeletehaha but he's a kid !
ReplyDeleteWell, they have magic. I'm sure they can get him back to his adult self.
ReplyDelete"i like the fact that emma don't care about finding love right now"
ReplyDeleteAND THAT'S WHAT I LIKE ABOUT HER.
I think when she decide, it will be like Miranda from SATC, and her simple "Let's get married" to Steve (season 6 episode 14)
ReplyDeletehook anyday :) he deserves some love
ReplyDeletePossible ! But allow me to have doubts !
ReplyDeleteAnd you're right, SQ fans are very noisy on Tumblr !
swan queen i really hope it happens it's the best story ever people think it's because everyone wants a lesbian relationship maybe a little but Emma and Regina have a great tension between them their chemistry is stronger than any of the others ships so if she doesn't end up with Regina then those writers are just stupid
ReplyDeleteSwanQueen all the way. Come on, Emma came out of a closet as a baby, for goodness sake!
ReplyDeleteEmma and Regina? It's stupid and it's never going to happen. People who believe in them are delusional. And they don't understand Emma or even Regina...Sorry, if I offended you. But it's true. Regina shouldn't be an option at all.
ReplyDeleteYeah, it's really, really sad that people are entitled to have differing opinions and perspective...
ReplyDeleteIf Regina were a man and they had the SAME STORY, I have a feeling EVERYONE would ship them. They are only seen as 'never happening' because they are both women.
ReplyDeleteSame!
ReplyDeleteAgreed! It was a bad idea.
ReplyDeleteIt's not true. I can tell you more reasons. For example, they can't be a couple because Regina was married to Emma's grandfather
ReplyDeleteand they slept together! It's gross!!! Because of Regina's curse Emma
spent 28 years alone. Regina ruined her childhood. Emma will never
forget or forgive that.And Regina tried to kill Emma and her family a lot. They despise each other.
Even if Emma or Regina were a man I would never see them as a couple...
Yes, it's sad, because this people don't understand what they watch. Writers did't creat SQ. I think after all this years they might be still shocked, that people ship SQ.
ReplyDeleteEmma and Regina don't hate each other but too many bad things happened between them... a credible love story between them is not possible ! Plus they have not desire for females !
ReplyDeleteSQ is a crack ship and will be a crack ship forever ! Just like MadQueen, EvilCharming, RedBeauty, GoldenQueen... SQ is a beautiful ship yeah, but not realistic... Now Adam said we will have SQ but not the one we are expecting... which means we will have a possible friendship in the future !
Whatever is happening, Eddy was very clear at Comic con, there will be no romance between Regina and Emma...
well emma keep (and will always) saving regina because she's a "hero" and that's the right thing to do.And clearly emma and regina will both be in the series finale, but so as neal and hook (hey won't kill any of theese characters, at least not before the series finale for regina and hook).but i believe in a friendship between emma and regina (just not now, it's too early).
ReplyDeleteI agree ! As difficult/sad it is for SQ fans, YES producers didn't create SQ ! But people have the right to ship what they want with who they want ... but that doesn't mean it will happen !
ReplyDeleteThey didn't let any hope at Comic-Con and even the actors don't think these two characters should have a relationship ! Yes it is delusional and sad...
as much as i'd love to see grown up pinnocchio again, i don't think they will do that lol.
ReplyDeleteI don't care much about Emma's love life, so I really don't care who she ends up with, but I just have to comment on this.
ReplyDeleteYou shouldn't say things like ''the ONLY reason Emma and Regina are dismissed is because they are both women'' as facts. I think that for a lot of people that's not the only reason, possibly not even A reason. I don't ship them, and I have absolutely NOTHING against two women being in a relationship. I just don't see the love that you are talking about, plus both of these characters seem to be heterosexuals, or at least that's how they have been portrayed so far (although I admit, I haven't even seen every episode so I can't know for sure...). Still, I haven't seen any romantic feelings. They are just two people.
And how is the show sending a homophobic message by not pairing up Regina and Emma? To me, it's merely sending the message of these being two people who are not together. I think if the show was being homophobic, it wouldn't have made Mulan gay in the first place.
Sure, yeah, if either Regina or Emma was a man, they might be a popular canon couple. But neither of them is, so we'll never know.
And I'm not saying you're completely wrong; I'm sure there are a lot of people who don't like same sex couples because they feel it's somehow 'unnatural' or whatever, which indeed is very sad. I mean come on people, it's the 21st century!
Another poll? Swan Queen always wins, but yet the ship and it's fans will be criticized throughout the whole poll.
ReplyDeletesorry I miss the sign that says "canon only", I think that knowing that Regina and Emma are very popular non-canon pairing, it was very kind from the site to add Regina to the options.
ReplyDeleteShe should just end up with Henry and that's it
ReplyDeleteso being a lot of people mends noisy....okay.
ReplyDeleteAgree at the end of the day I want a well written story.
ReplyDeleteAdam has confirm that adult pinnocchio will be back (maybe in flashback but he will be back)
ReplyDeleteyeah because lesbians are not suitable for a "family show" have you seen the series "The foster" that show is on ABC FAMILY
ReplyDeleteI'm going to have to disagree with you here. I would have to say SQ shippers are very insightful to these characters and have a greater understanding of the show than most. I ship them, and I'm not delusional, I just look outside the box...after all it is that type of show
ReplyDeleteOnce they set them on a path towards friendship, which by all account is the most likely scenario with SQ, turning that relationship into something more becomes credible almost too easy.
ReplyDeleteAnd, for the record, not a whole week after Comiccon Adam tweeted that the question was about what happened so far AND NOT ABOUT THE FUTURE. Sure he keeps stringing along all the shippers on twitter but things can change so easily. I bet there are a lot of things that happened already and will keep happening on the show that they haven't planned originally.
i guess it's in a flashback about emma.but it's strange adam confirmed something like that X)
ReplyDeleteI am on team SwanFire. I just don't see the romantic chemistry between Regina and Emma or Hook and Swan.
ReplyDeleteNot gonna happen is not a Reason to stop shipping it!
ReplyDelete#FIKDIKA
Hook slept with Milah and she is Henry's grandmother. It's gross!
ReplyDeleteNeal is a 300 year old dude and he impregnated 17 year old girl. It's gross!
and I agree with, a young woman (Regina) married to an old man she didn't love and forced to have a sex with him. Yep, it's gross.
You know what is also gross and ridiculous?? The whole freaking family tree.
The show is sending a homophobic message because they made Mulan gay then took her away from the show. You can't just do a big reveal like that and then not revisit it until next year. The show needs LGBT representation among main characters, not one character that gets hidden away the moment she comes out of the closet. They make her gay and then no one sees her again for almost six months? What kind of a message does that send? It sends the message that LGBT characters aren't as important as the others.
ReplyDeleteHook married!!! Milah, the grandmother of Emma's son, plus wanted to be a father figure for Emma's ex, but that's completely fine for her to be with him, even though using your logic he is still Henry's step-grandfather?
ReplyDeleteRegina Always!
ReplyDeleteRegina is Better than Hook (The pirate who makes jokes about Rape)
ReplyDeleteAnd Neal (Who left emma in jail)
Regina is Better than Hook (The pirate who makes jokes about Rape and punches women)
ReplyDeleteAnd Neal (Who left emma in jail)
Just because there's a lot of shippers mean they are noisy ???
ReplyDeleteOkay not gonna happen, and? that means i should not ship them?
ReplyDeleteThey should put a option that says "Anyone but Neal"
ReplyDeleteThat's what happens to good guys
ReplyDeleteAre we ever going to see Pinocchio (Eion Bailey) again?
ReplyDeleteKitsis and Horowitz: Yes.
http://www.tvguide.com/News/Once-Upon-Time-Lightning-Round-Spoilers-Horowitz-Kitsis-1073776.aspx
Preach it, sister :D http://media.tumblr.com/82a8c2efb25ec5e557d2916be364f943/tumblr_inline_mmdu8wtPsQ1rerre5.png
ReplyDeleteAll these arguments are valid ! And as long as there is hope, then the story can continue ... but I'm just saying I don't believe in SQ (in a romantic way) and I think Robin is actually the Regina's new true love ! It appears a good story too. This story will take a long time and I don't see the utility of Regina falling in love with him and then get back to Emma at the end of the show !
ReplyDeleteAnd don't tell me : "yes but OQ will have a tragic turn"... People must be pretty naive to think that producers will launch a ship and then say "don't worry it will end soon !"
The tragic turn is the fact that she never went in this tavern !
Milah is not related to Emma, they are not blood relatives. Leopold was Emma's biologiacal grandfather. So it's different.
ReplyDeleteAlone! with her Family and Regina being part of it ^^,
ReplyDeleteLOL. Exactly!
ReplyDeleteBut at the end Emma and Regina will never be together.... Because they can't stand each other! Are Sq shippers really so insightful?
ReplyDeleteJeez ,it doesn't have to be cannon online. I just thought it was funny that a non cannon option was included. I don't have any problem with it, I found it funny only. Take it easy.
ReplyDeleteYou know, I was actually kind of hopeful about OQ, then they come up with this stupid predetermined crap with that damned pixie dust and tattoo and I lost interest before it even started.
ReplyDeleteNot to mention how irritating it is that he is basically a male Emma, just like Hook is a male Regina. Yep, they even put Roland into the package so that we would be more comfortable with the fact that Henry won't be in Regina's life as much as he should.
And let's not forget the tiny detail that with the setup they have created for this ship, we should believe that for years, Regina went around killing people while hunting Snow because she destroyed her life by killing her true love, all the while knowing that she had an other chance with soulmate no less...
Really? Regina is better than Hook because he makes jokes, and she is better than Neal becauce he left Emma to save everyone from REGINA'S CURSE? Hook and Neal are not perfect, but they are better people than Regina. She killed entire village, her own father etc. And how many times she tried to kill Emma?
ReplyDeleteShe was 16 or 17 years old and he was 323, and he got her pregnant. When August told him she had to break the curse, instead of staying with her and going straight, he let her go to jail for possession of watches that he stole, and got off scot free himself.
ReplyDeleteHe never checked to see how she was doing, even though she went to Tallahasee for 2 years and waited for him. Emma's greatest hurt was being abandoned, first by her parents (although they couldn't help it) and then by her foster parents. Nothing could have hurt her more. Neal's abandonment made the hopeful fun girl of the past turn into the shut-down distrusting Emma of the pilot.
When August let him know the curse was broken, he didn't look for her, he fell in love with and got engaged to Tamara. When Emma told him not to trust her, he got mad at Emma.
Until the every end, when he found out Tamara was bad, he never apologized for what he had done to her. Neal treated her badly all down the line, and saying this season that his mistake was that he waited too long to tell her he loved her just shows he still doesn't get it.
I still think that Graham would be the best, but I don't think Jamie Dornan has time to come back now.
ReplyDeleteFor me, it's about who treats Emma the best. Neal abandoned her and hurt her, and then didn't even apologize until he found out that his new love was bad.
Regina has tried to poison Emma, hurt her, kill her, and repeatedly tried to kill various members of her family. The only reason she's nice to Emma is because she wants to get Henry back.
Hook is the only one who has tried to help her and tell her that she's a good person, and save Charming for her sake. No contest.
That still doesn't make Emma and Regina blood relatives. At least Hook and Milah were together because they wanted to not because they were forced. Regina wouldn't have touched Leopold with a mile long pole if it were up to her choice...
ReplyDeleteah, ok, so I assume it is OK for Hook to score both - Henry's grandmother and mother?
ReplyDeleteall I'm trying to say is that the show is messed up. You say Regina slept with Leopold (and she probably loved it *sarcasm*) and it's gross. I say - most things on this show can be describe as gross. That's OUAT - our little family show ;)
Regina is not related to Emma. Leopold died before Emma was even born! You can find many things against SQ but this argument is the least convincing, imo.
I never said they would end up together. I just think it would be cool. Regina is definitely a better choice than a nasty pirate or a man who goes for young girls. If it weren't for the curse, Emma would have never met those two other options, and she would have never had Henry. I don't think the show will end with them hating each, they share a son, and they come together bc of it. You're obviously not open to hearing what us delusional fans have to say, so I'll end it there.
ReplyDeleteIt was her choice... After Regina sent Cora to Wonderland, she could leave the King. But she decided to stay and marry him!
ReplyDeleteI agree, there are a lot of things against SQ. And Regina/Leopold reason is not the most important. But it's a reason. At least for me.
ReplyDeletei know right they see that swan queen is winning and they think we are delusional
ReplyDeleteThey're going to do Mulan and Aurora. There's a limit on how many queer relationships network TV (not basic cable, like ABC Family) can get away with. Sadly.
ReplyDeleteUnderstand. Thanks for the conversation.
ReplyDeleteSpeaking of LGBT representation, unless you're using gay to mean any queer sexuality (which, no), I'd say the show made her bisexual.
ReplyDeleteOH, yes, we did see him kill. Poor Claude and his friend, with the hook shaped holes in them, would beg to differ. And he doesn't mind people being tortured and hitting woman and he was totally fine leaving everyone in Storybrooke to die when the trigger's activation in a very big part was his fault. Those are the very same monster traits Regina has.
ReplyDeleteIs he sooo much better because he turned back even though it would have been far too late? How is that in any different than Regina willing to die in order to help everyone get away? Not to mention actually being successful in stopping the trigger in the end.
We don't know every detail about what happened but we know that she stayed to for the chance of bringing back Daniel, NOT to marry the king. If she leaves the King sends people after her and instead working on that all she would have been left with was running and hiding for the rest of her days.
ReplyDeletewow you people really take it personal like WTF man it's just a tv show everyone has the right to like whomever they want Dude Chill it's not like it's the end of the world LOL
ReplyDeletesorry but Emma and Hook aren't cannon #SorryNotSorry
ReplyDeletei think the poll was just for fun and people took it a bit too serious so vote for who you want and say why you like that if you want but what's the point of dishing the other ships
ReplyDelete2.09, one of the guards he causally killed to get to Belle. And don't be naive from the way he did it he's killed much, much more. After all he was okay with killing Cora too, as if...
ReplyDeleteDon't be so sure that Regina's killed more people. She gave the order the kill everyone in the village but when it happened she was wandering around in the woods with Snow. She was the reason behind their death but technically speaking she didn't kill them. Using any other logic would mean I can just say that Hook killed Milah, because Rumple ended her life because she was with him...
And I gotta say this about killing her father, the man watched as Cora abused Regina her entire life and did nothing. He was not a good father, and not a good man.
These 3 ships are effed up on some manner or the other.
ReplyDeleteI prefer Emma to know someone new.
But we KNOW she is either going to end up with Hook or Neal.
And we KNOW that SwanQueen will never happen.
Not break her, HE WANTED HER THE CAST THE CURSE, like the Seer told him to. And the marriage was a very significant part of that, of course, he wouldn't have let her get out of it.
ReplyDeleteA man of honor who got over his dead True Love in 5 minutes? No he is not a man of honor, a man of honor wouldn't act as if she's an object to be won and behave like he has while she's trying to save her child. Even worse in Neal's case because he's Henry's father...but well he's known him for 5 minutes and with his behavior he's just a sperm donor in my eyes. That's NOT the way a father should act while his son is in danger.
ReplyDeletePeople complaining about Outlaw Queen won't change the course of the story (most of the time people expose all these arguments against the OQ simply because it is threatening their ship ... not everyone but a big part) I pretty sure OQ will be canon one day or another, and when I see Lana and Sean, how they are excited by this storyline, I think we will have a concrete storyline between both very quickly in this season ! (not a romantic relationship, I think they will hate each others at first... that's what's funny indeed xDDD but in season 4 why not?)
ReplyDeleteEndgame IDK but canon it's obvious... and even if it's "crap" or a "random", complaining won't change anything to their story !
I prefer to follow the story instead of complaining for all storylines and seeing negative points everywhere in ouat !
Really? You think Leopold would have just let her leave him? Are we forgetting he ALLOWED Cora to accept his proposal for Regina? He clearly didn't give two shits about her choice then.
ReplyDeleteI know it won't change much. But we do have a right to complain and express our thoughts about it, don't we?
ReplyDeleteBesides even if some people do feel their ships threatened, it doesn't make the arguments invalid. I don't like how they got rid of Maid Marian just for this, I don't like that there's a kid involved because I'm worried about it just being an excuse to have Henry play happy bio family and keep ignoring Regina who spent over ten years loving him and giving him everything. Who is his mother even if they don't share the same blood. I don't like that Regina doesn't have a choice in who is her soul mate even if she's never met the guy. They are valid arguments, regardless of my ship. I just really hope that whatever they plan for OQ is well written. I'm an Evil Regal, I started watching the show because of Regina. Even though I ship Swan Queen, I would accept any Regina ship that makes her happy, as long as it's well written and not just thrown at her.
I really hope this ship won't become yet another reason for her to suffer.
In the very same episode they revealed Mulan was in love with Aurora, they also revealed that Robin Hood was Regina's "true love" and we haven't seen him either. In this case, Mulan got exactly the same treatment as Robin Hood, so I don't see how that sends the wrong message.
ReplyDeleteI hope they pick up that storyline, though. I was quite pleasantly surprised because Mulan developing romantic feelings for Aurora made more sense that most canon relationships, imo.
The ONLY time that it could even be considered that she did try, is the apple turnover - and you'd still be wrong. That curse puts you to SLEEP, it doesn't kill you. Also, if Regina HAD killed Emma, it would have broken the curse and she was trying to prevent that to begin with. So 0 times, that's your answer.
ReplyDeleteYeah, because love is to let the mother of your kid abuse your child. Sure doesn't sound like that to me. He was a coward, and theirs was never a healthy relationship so it was kind of fitting that the ending of it wasn't either.
ReplyDeleteThat was never my logic. It was probably not the best example but I was just trying to make you realize with it that you are using double standards for those two characters, that BOTH are bad people. I am also pretty sure if Hook didn't look like the way he does but like Smee, for example, you wouldn't have spend the last few hours trying to protect him because you wouldn't be able to look past all the crap that he has done. But, for pretty guys, abusing and killing is fine until they do it with moderation.
The only reason I am partial to Regina because I find her character far more interesting while if by the end of the season they'd decide to kill off Hook I feel like the show would loose anything. Being partial doesn't mean I am not aware what horrible things Regina had done but that's why her redemption arch has much, much more potential than fake saving David and suddenly being a hero for it. Enter Emma, and you got something unique and modern, and really freaking complicated that would bring everything together while with CS you have a story that has been told like 500 billion times already and on the long run, would be just a sore thumb in the fabric of the show...
So you would love their relationship start out the same way Emma and Regina's did. I find that extremely amusing to be honest. As if we need more reason to see Robin as a male Emma.
ReplyDeleteYou are right and Yes of course you can complain about it :-)
ReplyDeleteI just don't agree with the idea that Roland could replace Henry ... Regina loves his son, he loves it, it doesn't worry me, she would go in hell to save him, same as him...
Roland is just an additional element to soften the character of Regina ! This is my opinion... hey wait and see huh :)
Regina! I don't know if they will ever go there but I ship SQ since S1. I don't care for gender I only want an epic love story and SQ has so much potential! ;) I know Regina hurt Emma badly but a lot of famous couple (that I and a lot of poeple love) hated each other at first (and hurt each other) : Spike tried to rape Buffy, Damon killed Elena's brother (even if he resurected the intent was there), Veronica hated Logan ,... and yet, they manage to go past the hate and the hurt with time, love and redemption. I could totally see Emma and Regina take that road in a few seasons because it can't be rushed like so many "couple" on ONCE ;) But seriously, the drama (especially with Snow) could be so AMAZING
ReplyDeleteI totally agree, I always ship antagonist/protagonist relationships, and the couples you mentioned are my favorite examples, as well as Eric/Sookie. I would love to see Emma Regina evolve into a relationship like these in a couple of seasons, because they do take time.
ReplyDeleteFair point and true that.
ReplyDeletePlus, IMO, everyone (potential love interests, ofc) seems to have more chemistry with Emma than him...
Thank you, you managed to put my thoughts into a beautiful explanation.
ReplyDeleteApparently Glee didn't get that memo (the one that said that you have a limit of same-sex relations) xD
ReplyDeleteEmma has every reason to hate her ! Henry poisoning which could have cost him his life, the frame job against Mary Margaret, Graham's death, sabotage ... etc etc ... it's a lot to put aside to fall in love ...
ReplyDeleteRobin, I think he might hate her because of her reputation... That being said, we don't know the story of Robin and the Evil Queen ... perhaps he already has met her ... and maybe it wasn't a pleasant meeting... IDK...
What's this story about "Robin as a male Emma"? This is not about male or female, it's about the STORY!
The story isn't leading us to a love story between Emma and Regina ! That's all ! I don't understand that you're still on sexist ideas that a man is boring for Regina ! And she doesn't seem to be interested in women... everyone sees what he wants ... I think Regina prefers men ! You think Regina is Gay... Or maybe you think she is nothing and only love is important... Yes ! Everything is valid...
Anyway
Ok sorry again for my English ... I have to stop now! I love the idea of OQ and SQ I know that will never happen ... I explain why, that's all ! And I'm done!
Yeah, because a King is probably going to let his wife get a divorce....
ReplyDeleteSo - according to your argument: Grumpy and Astrid had one or two episodes for their love story, the show hates dwarfs and sisters. Ruby and Gus had one episode, the show hates animals.
ReplyDeleteShe's just not a main character, that's why they don't show her. Not because she's lesbian.
should have been graham but he died then august and now neal cause both my ships are gone . and cause of what happening now between them. I like when hook flirts with her tho and the jokes. and eww not regina.
ReplyDeleteShe was still just an aprentice not the Evil Queen/Powerful sorceress yet. I think Leopold would have killed them if he caught them. Even if he was a good man( which considering how he married a girl barely a few years older than his own daughter, and who did not give her aproval for the marriage...not so sure about his morals) he was still King, the Queen leaving him for another man would have humiliated him before his kingdom. If OUaT has taught us something, it's that their world is not black and white, even though most of the characters have that mindset.
ReplyDeleteNow, they could have escaped and avoided his men, but probably spend the rest of their lives running.
this poll was meant to be a joke. LOL Because it is real stupid to include Regina. LOL
ReplyDeleteThe site didn't "add Regina to the options". This is a user submitted poll, so if you want to thank anyone, you should thank the submitter (Abbs Juma).
ReplyDeleteThanks Abbs Juma
ReplyDeleteRegina tried to kill Emma when she was a baby.
ReplyDeleteShe only used poison apple because she couldn't kill Emma, if she killed her, the curse would be broken. But she did try to find a way to kill Emma. Then in season 2 she almost killed MM and Emma when they were returning from Enchanted Forest. Yes, she changed her mind because Henry found out. But it doesn't change the fact that she tried to kill Emma again. Then she and Cora were going to kill all the Charmings, and once again Regina wanted to kill Emma when she was going to use a devise that destroys Storybrooke.... So there are more than 0 times. Rewatch the show. Regina hates Emma and she would be happy if Emma died because Henry would be only Regina's. So do you really understand Regina and Emma if you want them together? I don't think so...
Who says she would have killed Emma if they hadn't sent her through the wardrobe in time? It would have made a lot more sense that she would keep Emma to raise in SB as her own. With time stopped, Emma never would have aged and wouldn't have been able to break the curse on her 28th birthday. Whereas killing her as a baby, could have had significant repercussions likely in the form of the curse failing and them remaining in FTL - You can assume if you like but it didn't happen, the attempt didn't even happen because Regina WAS too late. She didn't try to kill her, she didn't even have the chance to. As for the apple, it's a curse, not a poison and the well? that curse was cast with the idea of keeping Cora out, had the curse remained on the well, yes she would have killed Emma but it wasn't because she was TRYING to, so that doesn't count either.
ReplyDeleteAgain, the answer to your question is 0 times.
I don't ever see Emma and Regina happening romantically, but I think they have the most compelling and interesting relationships on the show. I hope we get to see their relationship develop more.
ReplyDeleteI'm a casual shipper of many things, but I deliberately don't ship anyone in regards to OUAT, because the shippers in this fandom are next-level crazy. But I'll say that "no one" is the best option because none of these people (and I say this as a fan of all three) deserve to be with Emma. Unless Graham's reanimated corpse shows up. But I'm not holding my breath.
ReplyDeleteI love Hook but I hate how the fans (and even the writers) try to turn him into a pathetic puppy over Emma. He's more interesting when he isn't a love interest.
ReplyDeleteI think the age thing is incredibly moot at this point, because while all that time passed in the real world, in Neverland he was in suspended growth. So it's not like he's an old dude trapped in a man's body, he was literally just 14 for all those years.
ReplyDeleteAnd while I love Neal and think he's a pretty interesting and great character, I really can't see him and Emma getting together again for a lot of the reasons you just stated. I just want them to be mature and help parent Henry and just watch Jmo and MRJ be adorable together onscreen and at events hahaha
I would never be comfortable with Emma being in love with a rapist who separated her from her parents for 28 years. I love Regina because she's an interesting character and I think she can help facilitate her redemption through forming a bond with Emma but as for love? Emma deserves much better, regardless of gender.
ReplyDeleteyeah i know. thats why i voted no one.
ReplyDeleteDon't really need her to end up with anyone. Of the three, though, I chose Hook. They have great chemistry. Yes, Hook has done some pretty vile things in his day, but eh, at least they weren't to anyone Emma actually cares about. After TVD asking me to buy Damon and Elena (read: "What's more romantic than getting together with the guy who raped and abused your best friend, snapped your brother's neck in front of you and manhandles you every chance he gets?!"), that's small game. Also, their chemistry is pretty great.
ReplyDeleteNeal is simply too dull to ship him with ANYONE, and whether one can excuse his doing it or not, the way he threw Emma under the bus in Tallahassee resulted in some serious emotional trauma. That sense of betrayal made her unable to trust anyone for a long time, and means the relationship inevitably carries a ton of baggage. It just can't be good for Emma, and ultimately wouldn't be good for Henry either, no matter how much kids want their parents together on principle.
I don't know how to assess the possibility of Regina, it's always weird to me when fanon and canon are mixed together because I judge them by different criteria. I would say the chemistry is definitely there, but it's hard to get past all the awful things Regina has done to Emma's family, even if she's trying to redeem herself in the present. (Hook hardly wears a halo, but as I said - the bad things he's done weren't *to* Emma or her loved ones, so they're not as much of an obstacle to a relationship.)
I just about want to fall over from the idea that Neal SELFLESSLY "let her go" - to prison!!! - so she could break the curse. For real? Added to his making a poor four-year-old boy serve as bait to lure Pan's shadow so he could get to Neverland, it seems Neal has a habit of screwing over other people in the name of faux-nobility.
ReplyDeleteAnd yes, there's the issue many people have brought up about how he was engaged to Tamara like a week ago. Emma wasn't even a glimmer in his eye then. Suddenly she's the epic love of his life and he'll do whatever it takes to get her back? I. Think. Not.
Who is Hook's dead true love? I must be forgetting something.
ReplyDeleteAll kids want their parents to be together, but that doesn't mean it's actually the good choice for the parents or even the kids themselves. Sometimes a couple stays together rather than divorce/separate for the sake of their kid, but since it becomes a troubled marriage where neither party wants to be there, it only makes things worse for the kid. A cordial separation, without ugly divorce battles, is the best idea in that case.
ReplyDeleteIf Emma and Neal can rebuild a healthy relationship, then sure, that would be great for Henry. But they absolutely shouldn't get back together FOR Henry when it's not right for them, that would just end in heartbreak and tears because the relationship would implode and Henry would obviously be hurt by it.
I'd say none of the above as of right now anyway.
ReplyDeleteI'm gay and I agree, it's annoying when people hurl accusations of homophobia at anyone who opposes a same-sex relationship on TV. If anything, the fact that gay relationships can be criticized by the same criteria as straight relationships is a sign of progress. And acknowledging that many TV shows still hesitate before writing a "gay storyline" because of potential controversy is just facing reality as it is, it doesn't mean you like it. America, especially, is a pretty homophobic country sadly. Don't believe me? Just go to a Yahoo! article about gay issues such as same-sex marriage or adoption, you're guaranteed to be sickened by the venom-spewing by commentators from the religious right.
ReplyDeleteAlso, the case of Emma/Regina in particular is more complex than just being a same-sex ship. It's also not exactly a vanilla pairing. Regina was a villain for the better part of 2 seasons and has tried to kill Emma's parents how many times? Not that there aren't problematic relationships like that on TV, even on network shows, but it adds credence to the idea that ABC and OUaT's writers/producers are wary of pursuing such a storyline.
I bet it would be awkward if they did it, though, because Jennifer Morrison and Sebastian Stan recently broke up, and in my experience that tends to sully the actors' on-screen romantic chemistry.
ReplyDeleteLMAO @ the closet thing! You would think, with my being gay, that something as obvious as that wouldn't fly over my head. :D
ReplyDeleteIt's possible, and a lot more respectful, to express your disagreement without calling people stupid or delusional. I don't ship this pairing either but it's exactly your kind of attitude that creates one of the worst things in the world of TV fandoms, the shipping wars.
ReplyDeleteAnd as has been stated many, many, many times, people are allowed to include whatever options they want in the polls they submit. It's possible to suggest that different options should have been used, sure, but without having a go at the poll submitter or anyone else.
I don't ship SQ but I agree about the double standards. It frustrates the hell out of me that people can diss this pairing and then turn around and ship Elena & Damon or Caroline & Klaus on TVD. Well, it's all probably part of the tendency to judge female characters approximately 10000000 times more than male characters. When Damon does evil shit to people Elena cares about, it doesn't matter (and even makes him more appealing) because he's a HOT BAD BOY with snark and great abs. But Regina should be burned at the stake for her sins. Riiiiiiight.
ReplyDeleteThis family tree is awful. Everything is incestuous one way or another.
ReplyDeleteI agree that I don't see anything homophobic about how they've handled Mulan *so far*, but the question, to me, is whether or not - and how - they'll revisit the plot point of her feelings for Aurora.
ReplyDeleteEven the reveal that Mulan is in love with her was an implicit, blink-and-you'll-miss-it moment that seems like it was written in such a way that younger viewers wouldn't get it (lest we offend anyone who thinks homosexuality shouldn't be on a family TV show at 8pm). So I'm not ready to credit them for having a bi/gay character because of such a short scene that wasn't even explicit. If the issue is dealt with for real once we see Mulan again, I will.
I agree about Hook. I don't excuse any of his past actions, but at least he treats HER with respect, like his equal. Neal screwed her over in a major way, and even if one wishes to defend him, there's no denying that this relationship is full of emotional baggage and would be unhealthy for Emma to pursue. And yeah, the whole Regina issue... my problem with that pairing is the same one I have with pairings where the man has hurt the woman and her loved ones in horrible ways before. It's not about gender.
ReplyDeleteHahahaha. Genious! So funny.
ReplyDeleteSo you think dealing with Regina's past will be easier for Robin because it didn't affect him personally? We cannot even be sure about that, actually, because who says the writers won't come up with something like Regina's caused Marion's death somehow, or killed a friend of his or even his parents. Then what will be the difference between them, apart from their genitalia? I like to believe one falls in love with a person not with whatever is between their legs. That's all.
ReplyDeleteAgreed. Neal is not only dull, but he hurt Emma very deeply because he was being selfish. Regina also destroyed her childhood by separating her from her parentes, so Hook doesn't seem so awful now :)
ReplyDeleteI'd much rather have Emma be ok with herself, happy, trusting people again, single and well written than paired up with someone just because happy endings must have "couples".
Hahahaha. The way you described it all is priceless. It is so messed up that I am starting to think Emma should resort to online dating :P
ReplyDeleteYeah, people tend to forget about Tamara...
ReplyDeleteHe wasn't 14 anymore, he was about 300 years old.
ReplyDeleteYes, I grasp that concept, but that's not what I'm saying. 300 years passed, but because time operates differently in Neverland; in body and mind he was still 14, but when he left Neverland, he continued to grow because the weird time stasis didn't affect him anymore. Literally, yes, he had been alive for 300 years, but mentally and physically he was 14.
ReplyDeleteIn the time stasis that one experiences in Neverland, he was 14. 300 years had passed, but during those 300 years he was still mentally and physically 14. That's what I'm trying to say.
ReplyDeleteWe don't like the same things but I still love your reponse and arguments
ReplyDeleteI disagree with you. These times count. And you forget that Regina and Cora tried to kill Emma and her family. Again that counts. Stop making Regina look like a saint. She did terrible things to Emma, which Emma will never forget.
ReplyDeleteI agree, it's been a long time since I've seen a fandom so crazy with shippers as OUAT's fandom. It's insane
ReplyDeleteI don't like shipping wars as well. Personally I ship CaptainSwan. But I respect Swanfire becauce Neal has a chance to end up with Emma, Hook has a chance too. It's pointless to fight about it. We will find out who was right at the end of the show. But SQ doesn't exist. They weren't a couple and never will be. They are not cannon. So Regina can't be an option here. Of course people can ship and submit whatever they like, but i think it's pointless...
ReplyDeleteAs I recall Cora killed Joanne after Snow gave her the dagger, then her and Regina disappeared, not even bothering trying to kill Snow and Charming then at the Pawnshop, they broke through Emma's barrier to get to Rumple so that they could kill him and Cora could take his power - the only reason the Charmings were there, was to protect Rumple and to stop that from happening.. Emma and Neal were teleported out of the shop, Charming was magically thrown out of the shop and Snow was off acquiring Cora's heart to put a curse on it. Oh look, so many opportunities for Regina to kill them and yet, she didn't.
ReplyDeleteI'm not trying to make Regina look like a saint, but neither am I making things up and trying to make her look worse OR blame her for the things her mother did. Any wrongdoing regarding Emma that Regina is responsible for doesn't need to be forgotten to be forgiven.
Disagree with me all you like, it doesn't change the facts.
You are not gay enough. LOL ;)
ReplyDeleteThnx!
ReplyDeleteWell, the poll asked "Who *should* Emma end up with?". Some people think she should end up with Regina, regardless of whether or not it will actually happen in the show. Sometimes, people even like a pairing that they're 100% certain will NOT happen. That doesn't make it wrong, so I don't see the problem with the SQ poll option.
ReplyDeleteNow, if the poll question had been "Who do you THINK Emma will end up with?", your point would make a lot of sense. Because SQ hasn't been canon so far, and it's easy enough to argue that it will never be. But once the question is simply about personal taste, the argument that SQ is unlikely to ever happen in canon is irrelevant. That's what I mean.
To be fair, I do think it's confusing to mix canon and fanon in a poll. Because my perception of Captain Swan and Swanfire/Swan Thief (the shipping names in this fandom are confusing, but I appreciate that at least most of them aren't just combinations of names, lol) is based partially on what the show has done with these pairings. Whereas SQ, at least at the moment, isn't canon, so an evaluation of this pairing is purely theoretical.
Have you forgot about conversations between Cora and Regina? The were planning to kill the Charmings after Rumple. Killing the Charmings was the reason why Regina agreed to help Cora. And Regina was shocked that Cora wanted Rumple's power.... So Regina wanted to kill Emma and her family. She didn't kill them before Rumple because she did'n want Henry to find out about it. But that plan failed.
ReplyDeleteI get it, you have a point. This show should come with it's own manual to explain us this kinda details :)
ReplyDeleteThat aside, even if the was 14 when he left neverland (despite the passing of 300 years in our world, he remained the same there, you are right), he aged when he got to our world, so he was the '"equivalent" of a twenty-something when he met Emma. Immature as hell, but he lived and matured for over 20 years.
I think he has many elements to kinda "justify" his behaviour, but the 14 year old one isn't one of them IMO (he was 20sth, not 320sth as I though, you are right!). I don't think his actions are justified, but if Rumple is your dad, your mom runs away with a pirate, you jump alone through a portal, you are kidnapped to Neverland leaving behind the family that took you in after you were all alone and starving... you are pretty messed up. I just don't think that any level of messe dup justifies abandoning the girlfriend who is in love with you to go to jail for your crimes and never checking up on her again.
I also can't see him and Emma together after what he put her through (unless it is superbly well written and developed.....), but I don't really ship anyone else.
ps.: I still think that Bae will end up dying in the future in na attempt to redeem himself and save someone. Don't know why, but I have this feeling (and it would probably make Rumple go ballistic and evil again, so plausible IMO).
I love crazy shippers, they are really entertaining!
ReplyDeleteI just sit back and watch, I mean, read.
She tried to kill Snow and Charming often, I don't defend that because it's actually been shown. I didn't claim she's never tried to kill THEM, nor do I blame her, they're kind of nauseating and she had legitimate reason to. Emma can claim Regina tried to kill her, but we've never seen any attempt of it and I hate to disappoint you but even planning to or threatening to, doesn't count. Your question was, "How many times has she tried to kill Emma?" she's thought about it, considered it, even gone as far as to team up with her mother so that she might attempt it - but she didn't, doesn't matter her reason for not doing it. I answered your question and the answer still stands.
ReplyDeleteIt's like telling someone you'll punch them in the face, unless you actually do it, they can't claim you physically abused them. Saying something and doing something, are two completely different things
You want to know someone who could have killed Emma? Hook. Remember in EL when he's helping Cora and they're fighting at the portal but he's an idiot and ends up getting his ass kicked by Emma instead? He legit could have killed her if he wasn't useless, they had swords for shit sakes and, oh look, he's a LI.
It's obvious that we're not going to agree on anything, so let's just save any further words and agree to disagree with one another. Feel free to reply, but this'll be my last.
Have a pleasant day.
That's a possibility IDK... And you're right if the Evil Queen has something to do with Marian's death... Well it's over, this is obvious...
ReplyDeleteBut agree or not doesn't change the fact that producers chose to give a "love interest" to Regina and this is Robin, not Emma. Or am I wrong? We are watching the same show no? And it seems logical they will actually go deeper into Outlaw Queen story ! I mean SQ or not you are not stupid and you understand there are lots of chances that Regina and Robin become a thing... no? Now endgame IDK, but for now I'm pretty sure Regina is gonna fall a little bit in love with him ! Lana is excited by this story and she knows better than anyone her character !
I have many Gay friends and I can tell you they will never fall in love with the opposite sex xDDD
It depends of people !
"I like to believe one falls in love with a person not with whatever is between their legs. That's all."
That's pretty romantic :) I'm OK with that :)
YES I think I understand what you mean ... despite my English !
ReplyDeleteThis is totally fair thinking this storyline is bad or poorly written or a random or something else...
What I can say is that I LOVE THIS Outlaw Queen IDEA, and I don't dissect the entire series because it is clearly imperfect and everyone will not be satisfied ... It saddens me because many people are disappointed and are unable to focus on anything other than ships...
I was a big fan of "Mentalist" so I know what it is to ship a couple that producers do not intend to put together ... I'm always watching for the main plot but I am disappointed that there is no Jisbon :'(
but I will not spend my life to tell to Bruno Heller he's made a mistake by not putting Jane and Lisbon together ... We must accept at some point or move on ...
My number one TV-series remains "Castle" and in that case there is nothing to say, they are CANON and basta ! No ship war ! THE BIG DREAM ♥
In OUAT everyone will not be satisfied at the end of the series it's obvious ... but as I always told : Emma and Regina can not sleep with everyone to please every fans...
I can tell you I hate Swanfire because I don't like Neal's character, regarding CaptainSwan I don't like it simply because of that damn triangle... It sucks ! It's my opinion...
I hope you understand me... Thanks to Google traduction xD
"And even if they let something grow without her seeing it, just how do you root for something when you know it's going to happen anyways?"
ReplyDeletefor the construction of feelings, despite the fact she is become the evil queen, that they had a different life, lives completely opposite ... it would just be great to see them get closer after all what happened ! And that will be long and hard probably... GOD LOVE THIS IDEA :D
As long as it's not Neal!! Can't stand him.... But Regina and Emma would be awesome! LOL
ReplyDeleteI envy that you can be excited about it while I am sitting here dreading the time it will come, because as things have progressed, I am at the point where I only keep watching the show for Regina, and her interactions with Emma and Henry and maybe even Snowing. If they screw this up even more than they have already have I am afraid I will have to put this show on hold and wait until I hear that it's getting better, or it gets canceled (the 1.9 rating last time was really worrisome) and I really don't want to do that.
ReplyDeleteI think most people are disappointed because the writing is pretty crappy. I mean just in the last episode they were like, light from torches doesn't matter when it comes to shadows and let's make a lunar eclipse with the unintentional ship even though there are handy clouds on the sky. And that is just one example. I could go on for very long time about stupid plot points and missed opportunities.
Their biggest problem is that they keep insisting that action beats talking. That's why the CS relationship, IMO, is the most poorly constructed ship I've seen in the last 20 years of television. That's why I don't have much hope for OQ either. I would love to be pleasantly surprised, but I know I very likely won't be.
Argh please don't scare me with OQ :'(
ReplyDeleteCan I ask you a question?! If SQ would happen, after all this shit you have noticed, don't you think that would be OOC and poorly written?! I mean Emma is in love with Neal, she said it to him twice, she has a crush on Hook... Is she going to throw these two guys (SQ would say "penis parade" -_-') and realize she is in love with Regina ... it makes me think of a bad soap ... we don't need to further complicate Emma's relationships ... at the same time I don't care about her, my favorite character is Regina and her relationships with people, especially her son, and thank you for mentioning Snow because I expect more things happening between Snow and her than between Emma and her !
Meanwhile Regina, well, I'm agree with Lana, "she doesn't look anyone with lust or desire", season one was about vengence and season two about her relationship with Henry, season tree is about SAVE HENRY and then, yes she may fall in love with someone !
Besides, I've never shipped her with anyone during these two seasons, except crack ships, this is really funny xD
I can say Outlaw Queen is my first serious ship in ouat :)
And if they ruin this story too... Well I'd say bybye !
Of course that is how it will end up. The show itself has this skewed view of how biological family will win out over everything else. Regina will be pushed to the side and Neal will be made to look like a knight in shining armor for Emma and Henry when really he is just a scared little prick who abandoned Emma for selfish reasons. Is it right? Absolutely not. Do the writers give a shit? Of course not. They would not even consider Regina and Emma as a true pairing even though they have been throwing it in our faces and giving us false hope. It is sad really. An opportunity for a great story is going to waste on the idea that women need a penis to dictate their lives and biological family wins out over everything. So yes you are correct: Emma will be with Neal.
ReplyDeleteIt'd be weird for Snow because it is her lifelong "enemy" in love with her daughter. Though I think she would accept it. Besides, Regina is no longer her stepmother because Leopold died and when Regina "kicked Snow out" it was basically her nullifying any sort of parental relation.
ReplyDeleteOne minute Emma says she loves Neal the other she wishes he was dead. One minute she is kissing Hook the next she says that she couldn't care less about either of them only Henry matters. She is most definitely not decided on anything, and I think both of those LIs are messy, and crappy options and would never be able to sustain more seasons of storylines and stay interesting.
ReplyDeleteSQ, on the other hand, slowly being built up, starting out as a tentative friendship and then progressing into something more, gradually, would make much, much more sense than either of the above. I want it to creep up on them. I want it to be a freaking big twist in the story much later on.
Those two women are the two sides of the same coin, and more importantly, because of their magic, they are EQUALS of each other. That cannot be said about either of their love interests. Just think about it how it will look like when there is a dangerous situation and Emma and Regina are protecting everyone while their respective love interests will be in the background sitting on their hands because they are unable to help.
I have a question for you also. What do you think they are planning to do with Henry, if God forbid Emma starts something serious with the pirate, they find a love interest for Neal and Regina will be with Robin? Just think about that. Let it sink in.
Even if Emma is with Neal, and they agree on something like sharing him equally with Regina it's just one week here one week there. And I honestly don't think that would make Regina happy, even if she gets an other chance with Roland and Robin.
Then your solution : Get Regina and Emma together and BAM happy ending... Yes ! I've always said SQ would have been a beautiful story... all your arguments : the two sides of a same coin, the magic, Henry... etc... it's actually very interesting ! And somehow really poetic... when I see some fanarts where Emma and Regina are kissing, I find that really beautiful because I have to say : these two woman are so beautiful, so hot... but it is not my vision IN the show, I just imagine them kissing in a AU context !
ReplyDeleteAnd I like the real ships and you ship two girls who showed no desire SEXUAL for each other ... it bothers me yes, I can't hide this ! I feel these characters are straight and I can't imagine them together that's all ! Nothing to do with homophobia, it's just I don't ship them ! I ship her as friends and franckly what's wrong with that?! Friendship is good too... but I still have trouble with this idea too because I think a lot of damage has been done and Emma will never completely forgive Regina, and their disagreements, their bickering, the tension between them are making the show ... I don't want to see them going home at night and kissing passionately in front of Henry and Mary Margaret ... it's ridiculous for me ! Completely OOC !
And Regina will have to learn to share Henry with Emma and she has to think about her own life too, maybe a baby one day... Doesn't mean he will replace Henry no no no !!!! But henry grew up and he has his own life too ! He won't stay with mom for eternity ! That's my vision of the show...
Ultimately, I might be the only person thinking the same way than producers and actors xDDD
- On the other hand I can't imagine Emma with Hook because... IDK........ Oh fuck ! Hook with Tinkerbell voilà ♥
- Neal... pffff I don't care... This character is boring !
By the way, it's nice to talk with you ! I'm a bit tired of people bashing me because I don't ship SQ -_- (But I ship Sleeping Warrior \o/ )
I wouldn't want them to show any sexual desire for each other, at this point, at least. I would want all of it to just creep up on them. Told you, biggest twist, even for them is what I would want to see. Though, in this regard, the fact that they doesn't seem to know what personal space is, sometimes actually makes me wonder, you know, about what was the creators/actors/directors purpose behind, repeatedly, have them having their conversations 20 cms from each other face. I mean Beckett and Castle go that close to each other when they are finally solved the case and they are putting all the pieces together...
ReplyDeleteI've never put them in a box like you seem to have when it comes to their sexuality, mostly because they met and they clicked for me the first second so I've have basically been shipping them since first watching the pilot. I admit, back then, I was like this is gonna be such a delicious crack ship but then they started to build up their backstories and the more I saw, the more parallels showed up, the moment when they freaking started to make magic together, I was lost because I knew they won't be able to come up with something more surprising or original than what this ship could be. The whole show was supposed to translate fairy tales to our time and instead we are getting the good girl with the bad boy, and the bad girl with the good boy scheme, totally predictable and gonna say it, BORING.
A very significant part of me maybe shipping it is for rooting to the underdog. I have always went for the canon couples in all the shows I've been watching before OUAT, and I've, in 99% of the cases shipped things that became endgame in the end. For the lack of this when it comes to OUAT I do blame the writers because they are unable to come up with more compelling stories than what Swan Queen could be. Not for me, and if you look above at how the voting stands right now, not for a whole lot of other people that are watching this show.
the only person i wanted emma with is dead, none of these people deserve to be with emma
ReplyDeleteSave Henry? Even without the set pictures it was a given from the second he was taken that there won't come any harm to him. I just wish that their threats would hold some weight, that they could've made me worried about the kid, or Charming for that matter. Neither of those happened. They are taking easy ways out very often, like Emma finds a freaking solution in 8 minutes to how David can leave the island after four episodes of 'there is no way' etc.
ReplyDeleteThey would've tried to darken the kid more aggressively, because that would've made me worried for an example, or have Emma do something dark, like transfer David's condition to the pirate and leave him behind so that David can come back with them.
I am thinking more about the end of season 6 for them to happen. By then the Hook/Neal/Robin whatever could reach a point where it would actually make sense. It all depends on the writing. They could write SQ in a way that everyone would see it just like everyone sees Beckett and Castle, or they could write a different pairing for the ladies that at least most could see but they can't and I am really baffled about why that is. Or not really, I just wish I wouldn't have to say BAD WRITING.
Milah, Rumplestiltskin's wife. Rumplestiltskin originally thought that Hook had abducted her, but she actually ran away with him of her own free will. Rumple found this out as the Dark One when he met Hook again. He took Hook's hand and tore out Milah's heart and killed her. This happened centuries ago.
ReplyDeleteWith all due respect the reason most people don't ship swan queen is NOT because they are both women but because of a the shit between them in past seasons. I say this with all the love in my heart for regina but she has been one of the main reasons why emma grew up without a family, tried to kill her when she was a newborn baby and has tried to kill her family on numerous occasions too. All perfectly valid reasons why people don't ship them together. And if Swan Queen did happen there would be a hell of a lot of crap for them to work through. Ship away but don't assume the reason why others DON'T ship them is because they are both women
ReplyDeleteSwanQueen >>>>>>>>>>>>rest of the world
ReplyDeleteI personally do not care. I just don't see Emma establishing a lasting relationship with any of the above mentioned characters.
ReplyDeleteniceeeeeeeeeeeeee,you said the exact truth about the show....unfortunatelly
ReplyDeleteNO I'm not okay!!! a credible love story between Emma & Regina is possible.....
ReplyDeleteNO. I m not Okay !!! I think a love story between Emma & Regina is possible... :)
ReplyDeleteI thought this would be a fun poll, since it's a show I watch and enjoy, until I saw the comments. I blame my lapse on too much turkey. ;)
ReplyDeleteSo I've noticed that SwanQueen always starts out with a good lead when it comes to these polls. Then it's like people notice and work against it. But that's just my opinion. As for me, SWANQUEEN ALL THE WAY!!! VI VA LA SWANQUEEN!!!
ReplyDeletei was halted by cannon. folks really need to learn how to spell that correctly. since you're trying to win an argument and be taken seriously.
ReplyDeleteUm cannot believe how many SQ shippers are here! It seems funny because CaptainSwan is nominated for PCA Favourite On-Screen Chemistry and there is always top comments for CaptainSwan on youtube but look at here Rgina 62% ! It soo unrealistic #SorrySQshippers
ReplyDeleteConcerning whats IN THE SHOW and what i have seen and liked, its Hook/Emma!!! So yes i am rooting for them! Hook hasnt hurt Emma to the point its scarred her or left her feelings rejected or hurt or bruised or whatever! And ever since he came back and chose her and be part of something, he hasnt done nothing wrong... and to Emma thats what matters whats happens now and in the present!
ReplyDeleteam i being too seriously,but Regina?seriously?u cant be kidding me,right?
ReplyDeleteThe result of leaving the poll open for 3 months and letting people vote multiple times.
ReplyDeleteKind of makes a mockery of having polls like these.
"viva la swan queen" is about the best phrase I have seen in all these comments.
ReplyDeleteJoke about rape? Never heard that. you know who actually has been proven to rape? The Evil Queen. We forget about what she did to the huntsman. and while I love Regina now, she was a bad person. So was Hook. And so was Neal. And so was Rumple. The show is about redemption, hope, forgiveness, and true love.
ReplyDeleteIf she'd gone into the tavern I bet the King would have kill them both. She wouldn't have become the Evil Queen , so Snow wouldn't have met David while on the run, he would have married Abigail, Emma wouldn't have been born, etc. So No that couldn't have been the tragic turn.
ReplyDeleteWhat really bothers me is that they had to kill off Maid Marian and orphan Roland just to make him Regina's love interest. They destroyed that family to get someone to throw at Regina...so a good story? Nope. And the fact that they haven't even met and they are making them soul mates? The hell? Regina has always wanted( and never truly experienced freedom, and now she doesn't even have freedom to choose who she loves because fate dictates she has to be with Hood? That in itself is the tragedy in that pairing.
If it truly happened, then it would be weird for Snow. Her stepmother in love with her daughter..
ReplyDeleteI'm going to try and say my opinion from a biased point of view. All the character labelled: Regina,Hook and Neal, have ALL done something wrong to Emma. Neal left her pregnant in a prison, Hook left her to rot and die in a prison cell and Regina created the curse meaning Emma was an orphan. So, these constant 'he's better for her/she's better for her' are kind of annoying.
ReplyDeleteMy opinion on Hook/Emma. You can see that Hook has been trying to do good things in order to win Emma over, however I feel the build up has been terribly written. It's been what.. Five days? Whenever I see them on screen, and I do try to be positive, and yet all I can remember is that Hook DID leave her to die in a cell. And, sure, he came back with the magic bean in 2x22, but if it weren't for Regina and Emma saving the town with their magic, then he'd have been too late :/ And I don't think he'd be good for Henry. How do you think Henry would feel about Hook, knowing that he left Regina, HIS MOTHER, to be tortured by Greg and Tamara? Yeahh..
My opinion on Neal/Emma. I've liked the determination shown from Neal this season, in the hope that he'll save Henry and WILL find him. I feel that he can connect with Emma in that way, but with the comments Emma has been making this season towards him (like when she said she hoped he was dead) I feel that if they were to reconnect. It would take time. But again, he himself did his wrong doings in their past, and I still don't know if Emma will let that go. But it's easy to say that Neal could be good for Henry :)
My opinion on Regina/Emma. The writer's would certainly need a lot of balls to do this. However, I can say I've loved their interactions this season. Them working together in order to find their son has been really good and I've enjoyed most the scenes they've done. I can't imagine the writer's doing anything romantic between them as of yet (whether they will in the future i don't know) but it would be interesting to see Henry with his two mothers - as a couple - like a real family. However, again, Regina did do her own wrong doings to Emma as well, yet I feel, when some of the look's Regina has been giving Emma this season, that she is starting to feel guilty and sorry for what she did to Emma, which is interesting.
Emma/Other? Now that, I'm actually not opposed of. I mean, who's to say that Emma should even end up with anyone anyway? (Though I can't imagine that happening). One doesn't need a true love to have a happy ending. Her happy ending should be Henry imo.