myFanbase: What do you think about the journey of your character and which part was the most fun for you?
Misha Collins: I can tell you that Castiel is now human and he gets to experience what it is like to be a human being for the first time and the way that it's been written is quite extraordinary. So I'm enjoying that a great big deal.
myFanbase: It's been revealed that Castiel is going to have a love interest in season 9, played by Shannon Lucio. Can you give us any scoop on that?
Misha Collins: Well, I can tell you that they get intimate in the most intimate sense of the word. Which is for somebody like Castiel, who is up to this point a virgin, very poignant.
Source: Full Interview @ myfanbase
Misha Collins: I can tell you that Castiel is now human and he gets to experience what it is like to be a human being for the first time and the way that it's been written is quite extraordinary. So I'm enjoying that a great big deal.
myFanbase: It's been revealed that Castiel is going to have a love interest in season 9, played by Shannon Lucio. Can you give us any scoop on that?
Misha Collins: Well, I can tell you that they get intimate in the most intimate sense of the word. Which is for somebody like Castiel, who is up to this point a virgin, very poignant.
Source: Full Interview @ myfanbase
season heteronatural.
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disgusting, way to piss and lose part of your audience, spn.
ReplyDeleteWhy is it disgusting? I think it's a great thing that they're letting the character grow and change.
ReplyDeleteIt's disgusting to have a woman come on this show and get attention solely because she is devirginizing a man. That's it. That's all we hear about her. I'm surprised we even know her name.
ReplyDeleteThey have so little respect for women that they have a woman show up for one episode for this reason. And this is the only thing they can talk about with her. Misha has nothing else to say about her. Nothing. The show has nothing else to say about her.
It's degrading and cheap.
Yeah, I don't like it either. They were never particularly good at creating love interests and romance but this looks even worse. Of couse it could be that the plot is so good they don't want to reveal it, but I seriously doubt it... Just like you've written, it's like they needed Cas to have sex with a woman, because, wow, he is finally going to have sex... and the woman in question doesn't matter
ReplyDeleteI don't know if I would "fully support" the serious relationship because I'm afraid it would be like "look, they're together and we're saying it's serious so you just need to believe it" - like with Amelia. But like you said, I would be ok with it if it was an actual believable story.
ReplyDeleteYou're right about this cynical part.
Also,the way they're describing it, for me this is not very psychologically believable - but I have problems like that with many shows so maybe it's just my problem ^^'
I don't remember it usually being this blatant. We knew Dean was a ladies' man, but Cassie was a well-rounded character who had her own voice and clearly was not just there so we could see Dean getting down. After that he had mostly casual relationships for a while, but I never felt like most of the women were there solely for Dean to have sex. If that happened it was just nonexistent characters briefly mentioned in the script. If you look at someone like the actress in "Hollywood Babylon," yes, Dean had sex with her, but we saw so much else about her too. Then he sort of had a more serious relationship with Anna, and a very serious one with Lisa. The most casual sex he's had on the show in a long time was with that woman in the Amazon episode, which was more about the stupid story of Dean's killer daughter than anything else.
ReplyDeleteAfter Jess died (which was problematic, don't get me wrong), Sam had a sweet and tender romance with Sarah, who wasn't treated as a piece of meat by the script. Madison was the first woman he had sex with in quite a while, but again she wasn't advertised as being there for that purpose. These were one-episode women, but still fairly complex. The only times Sam has ever really had a sex-only relationship is when the character is in a somewhat dark place (or soulless).
I don't remember anything where they brought in a woman for Dean or Sam and all of the PR, for months, was, "Dean and Sam are getting some!!" Who is this woman? What does she want (besides sex)? Who cares. It's time for some booty calls.
It is just tacky to me. It's as if they thought people never cared about Cas until he was getting some ass. That is one of the last things I cared about regarding Cas. And we aren't even getting a relationship or anything out of this, anyone who will be there for Cas or care about him. It's porn without the porn. Apparently this is so important to the show they have needed to talk about it for months on end. Why? As much as I may like seeing Misha without a shirt on, even I don't think it's worth being what defines Cas.
It sounds like Cas is on the run and terrified and then BAM he stops for sex. I guess they might think fear and adrenaline will lead to sexytime, but it sounds very contrived.
ReplyDeleteI wouldn't want to see another Amelia either, but if they are serious about Cas and women, then I would want his first time to be something with someone that would be there for him. Cas is always gone for lengthy periods of time. Instead of this being another solitary quest that usually ends miserably, they could say he's with this woman and they're working together. We would still not see the woman very often (to reassure those fans who flip out any time a woman has any role on this show beyond a one-episode victim or villain), and we might get to see her developed over time and become a positive, strong female force, which the show needs. We could also see Cas grow and change with her. Even if it doesn't work out and she's just in a few episodes and they split up, at least that would be something that lets us see more of Cas and his adjusting to humanity. Someone to talk to.
This sounds like a sex break in between the same old misery and failure.
what can I say... you're 100% right and I don't have anything to add to what you've written
ReplyDeleteYou're much better at the replies on this topic than I am. I just go on and on.
ReplyDelete"It sounds like Cas is on the run and terrified and then BAM he stops for sex" - that was exactly what I was thinking of with lack of psychological believability
ReplyDeleteWow, 5 years of a wonderful relationship with Dean and 'we don't want to define love!' and then Cas is going to have sex with a woman he's just met, who will probably disappear forever after 9x03, and on what basis? She's a woman!!! Great. I'm done with SPN, Cas was the only reason I watched and they're going to destroy him with this storyline, using him as comic relief or a tool and by giving him no meaningful relationship with the Winchesters or any other character. Goodbye.
ReplyDeleteDaphne who?
ReplyDeleteI didn't even mind the porn jokes, because I thought that was a funny bonding moment for Charlie and Dean. It didn't just feel like using a woman for some sort of sex object purpose.
ReplyDeleteThose moments with Dean and Sam were footnotes in a long history. The show has at times had awful, awful writing for Dean and Sam and women, but their important relationships were with women who were given more of their own voice and were not repeatedly dragged into the press as, essentially, blow-up dolls. That is how this woman is being treated, over and over, in the show's comments, the press' comments, etc.
It bothers me. There's no need for this. They could tell us anything else about her. They choose not to do so.
They never said he had sex with Daphne. Misha never seemed to see it as a sexual relationship. I read somewhere that he changed some of the script so that Cas would be less close to Daphne (they were supposed to hug or something). Cas was an amnesiac at the time and Daphne was a very religious woman who found him in the woods.
ReplyDeleteI am happy that the show is saying he didn't have sex with Daphne or Meg because that would have been nonconsensual.
I just wish they weren't using this April woman solely as a sex toy.
HAH another woman for the SPN writers to kill off!
ReplyDeleteThe main reason an uber-religious woman would marry a man is to have sex with him. Trust me, I have several of them in my extended family. They don't believe in sex outside of wedlock. Otherwise why else would she marry him?
ReplyDeleteAnd who says they're using April "solely as a sex toy"? That's all on you and your assumptions. This very article is implying she'll be recurring through the season.
Is this interview even legit? Misha doesn't sound like his usual self here. It just seems...off.
ReplyDeleteNo offense intended, but do you think Sam was a virgin when he met Jessica, or, to completely stretch a point, Dean was when he was "with" Cassie. Most people have 'their first' and their first 'experience' is not always memorable in a good way - not always 'candlelight, bubble baths, and professions of love'. Recall in 5.03 FTBYAM, Dean took Cas to a brothel because he was 'not gonna let Cas die a virgin' - if Cas got to go 'through with it' he would have lost his virginity in an equally impersonal way.
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