I can't wait for next week's episode. These past two episodes have been disappointing in the character interactions, especially Stiles. I just wanted to tell Scott to shut up when he was freaking out during the Danny scene. I just realized the Sheriff doesn't have a first name
Whoa...okay That was JAM packed. So, Derek, not the best planner...in walks Boyd...with a pretty good plan. Was Kali (and or the twins) watching them as they flooded the apartment and guessed the plan? But it was a great plan. Hopefully, in honor of Boyd, will pick up some books on military strategy and start studying. MAN! What a horrible thing for Boyd and Derek.
And while I love that Scott is becoming an Alpha through sheer 'strength of character and will' I really really wish they hadn't *said* it.
They are stepping up the game this seasons and I am seriously happy. As usual Stiles was awesome. Love Lydia 'My last boyfriend was a homicidal snake' Martin. I agree with several people...Awesome just isn't strong enough.
I'll make tow random comments because the major points still kinda hurt:
1) Am I the only one who thinks the Sheriff knows more than he lets on? It could just be what Deaton said, that he's a good detective, and just knows to look deeper. And I don't discredit that, but I don't know.... there's something.... the biggest red flag this season was when he asked for Chris' input in the premiere because he "heard Stiles say he was a good hunter"? I mean... weird...
2) Show of hands: who thinks Ethan will flip sides eventually?
Okay so other than Fireflies, which had great scenes but felt sooooo filler-ish I was bored in several parts especially on rewatch, I have really enjoyed this season. I wasn't sure this episode would live up to last week but damn it definitely did.
Also did anyone watch the after show? I loved it. Not to mention Tyler Posey was strangely very attractive which a I've never found him to be on Teen Wolf. But hot damn. :)
I think he's catching on after this episode, to me it seemed like he saw Scott struggling with the circle of ash, at least I hope he did because otherwise that line he said would be way corny IMO. :)
And I think Ethan is already very close to switching sides although knowing this show they may not confirm it til long after he's done it already.
Stiles has a first name. It was revealed in season 1 in the parent/teacher interview. I hope we never learn what it is.Stiles is obviously the derivation from Stillinski.
This was a GREAT episode....except for one thing - the way they treated Erica and Boyd as throw-away characters.
Erica was arguably one of greatest additions to Season Two, but the way they just threw her away now was infuriating. And Boyd - well...I am not calling Teen Wolf a racist show yet, but that's two POC people dead this season already. Not a good start.
Otherwise the episode was GREAT and intense, even if a bit disjointed and frantic(then again that's definition of this season so far). There's not a single flaw in what has been happening this episode and it contained dozens of moments that sent chills down my spine. Also freaking butterflies - I am sorry, but after Haven, its the scariest thing ever.
If there was one narrative-downside, its that we STILL have no idea at all on what is going on this season - we have alpha pack and we have druids and darach and serial murders and Scott's alpha-ness and so far we have nothing to connect those things with at all. Hopefully the show starts explaining stuff soon because the build up so far been freaking great.
I think its quite clear that alpha pack will join scott's pack sometime soon - Ethan and his brother normally, and Kali after she finds out how exactly the bald-guy died and that Deucalion killed him.
If they have not said it, the less rational part of fanbase would be still raging on it calling it a plothole. I mean we STILL have people who think that Scott is dumb or that Derek is a great leader, as well as people who just don't get how and why Jackson was kanima.
white deaths are non-issue just like male deaths are nonissue, since its the privileged race. Minority deaths on other hand have to get more attention for pure fact that they do NOT have the privilege, especially considering POC to white ratio in the show cast - ...its two POC characters in Six freaking episodes of 20 or so episode season, and that is worrisome already EVEN if we did not have "big black man killin' your kids" stereotype few episodes back.
What's more its 3 female deaths in the same timespan, but that aspect is sort of balanced out by actual empowering moments for females.
sighhh. conspiracy rite. as long as all u see is the color of their skin, there will always be racism even when its not intended but simply becaus thats how u think. the vet guy was taken...'omg its caus he's black'......no.
The writers of horror or superhero stories prefer to have the villains kill off mainly innocent girls and women, for one reason: to make them apppear especially despicable. A hero only works for the audience if he or she is fighting an especially despicable villain. Of course, that kind of suggests that killing females is more deplorable than killing males, which you could call a kind of inverse sexism.
I don't think that Kali will ever join Scott - she might turn against Deucalion in revenge and team up with Scott just for the fight, but that will most likely be the extent of it.
i've brushed up on my mythology (real and tv alike) and still can't find what Lydia is; she's something alright but right now she fits several different things and it's still non-conclusive...
so Kali is responsible for both Erica's and Boyd's deaths.....they did want them starved and ready to attack Derek but Erica attacked and she must have put up a hell of a fight if Kali couldn't subdue her and had to kill her. Go Erica!
ps most confusing thing about the ep for me is: why would Derek care who's dating Lydia?!
Its not exactly inverse sexism, though, is it - its the very same idea that females have to be "looked after" and "protected" from big bard world, essentially undoing everything shows like Buffy stood for.
Lmao. Just stop. This is silly. Like I'm borderline thinking you're trolling or something because your view is ridiculous. Are you seriously implying that white and male deaths don't matter and female and colored deaths are some magical racism hidden?
There was no stereotype a few episodes back. At all. Unless the female was a stereotype of a woman on her period.
Because Lydia is part of the circle of friends Scott hangs out with. Scott hangs out with members of Derek's pack. Dating the "enemy" is a conflict of interests.
Re your #2 I said just that to my daughter earlier today. We also about if Danny should be told before he learns "the truth" the hard way like Scott's mother... we both thought Yes. I *don't think* Sheriff Stilinski knows - yet - but I do think he will learn "it" soon; Scott wanted to him already but Stiles thought his dad had too much on his shoulders atm.
I'd like to think the Sheriff saw Scott struggle too... which is another red flag that he already knows more, and isn't simply, finally catching on. I mean he just accepts all this weird? It's not like when Ms.Blake was in the basement. I mean she actually saw Boyd and Cora in werewolf form... that's quite hard to dismiss as proof. But seeing Scott have difficulty trying to get through thin air and just go with it is a bit of stretch....
I think Ethan is a shoe in.... not so sure about Aiden though... Kali? Definitely not. In fact Derek needs to finally end that bitch! (it's so his kill I'll be pissed if anyone else does it...)
Maybe.... though that's a big maybe. I'm personally hoping Derek simply lets her know who really killed Ennis just before "he rips her throat out with his teeth."
Re Danny: I go back and forth over weather I want him to know or not.... most of the time I'm leaning on "not" but I think with him dating Ethan it's kinda inevitable.
Re the Sheriff: I get both sides of the argument. It's just that personally I think there have been way too many little details which indicate he might actually be WAY more aware. WAY way more aware, not just "is suspicious" aware.
Wherever on that spectrum he eventually is revealed to fall on (be it "he knows nothing", "he suspects", "he's figured most/all of it out", "he's known about everything for a while", "he's known since forever, even before the show started") will be believable as far Im concerned. However my personal estimate/spec falls in the "he actually knows" categories. It's the "since when has he known" which will be the issue....
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why isnt there a vote for "epic"?
ReplyDeleteI can't wait for next week's episode. These past two episodes have been disappointing in the character interactions, especially Stiles. I just wanted to tell Scott to shut up when he was freaking out during the Danny scene. I just realized the Sheriff doesn't have a first name
ReplyDeleteyeah neither does stiles technically
ReplyDeletewhy isn't their an option for "i'm fucking distraught."
ReplyDeleteThis show seriously only gets better and better.
ReplyDeleteWhoa...okay That was JAM packed. So, Derek, not the best planner...in walks Boyd...with a pretty good plan. Was Kali (and or the twins) watching them as they flooded the apartment and guessed the plan? But it was a great plan. Hopefully, in honor of Boyd, will pick up some books on military strategy and start studying. MAN! What a horrible thing for Boyd and Derek.
ReplyDeleteAnd while I love that Scott is becoming an Alpha through sheer 'strength of character and will' I really really wish they hadn't *said* it.
They are stepping up the game this seasons and I am seriously happy. As usual Stiles was awesome. Love Lydia 'My last boyfriend was a homicidal snake' Martin. I agree with several people...Awesome just isn't strong enough.
Sad but lovely episode!!
ReplyDeleteI'll make tow random comments because the major points still kinda hurt:
1) Am I the only one who thinks the Sheriff knows more than he lets on?
It could just be what Deaton said, that he's a good detective, and just knows to look deeper. And I don't discredit that, but I don't know.... there's something.... the biggest red flag this season was when he asked for Chris' input in the premiere because he "heard Stiles say he was a good hunter"? I mean... weird...
2) Show of hands: who thinks Ethan will flip sides eventually?
Okay so other than Fireflies, which had great scenes but felt sooooo filler-ish I was bored in several parts especially on rewatch, I have really enjoyed this season. I wasn't sure this episode would live up to last week but damn it definitely did.
ReplyDeleteAlso did anyone watch the after show? I loved it. Not to mention Tyler Posey was strangely very attractive which a I've never found him to be on Teen Wolf. But hot damn. :)
I think he's catching on after this episode, to me it seemed like he saw Scott struggling with the circle of ash, at least I hope he did because otherwise that line he said would be way corny IMO. :)
ReplyDeleteAnd I think Ethan is already very close to switching sides although knowing this show they may not confirm it til long after he's done it already.
Stiles has a first name. It was revealed in season 1 in the parent/teacher interview. I hope we never learn what it is.Stiles is obviously the derivation from Stillinski.
ReplyDeleteloved the episode, but could anyone tell me what Boyd said to Derek at the end because I couldn't understand it
ReplyDeleteThis was a GREAT episode....except for one thing - the way they treated Erica and Boyd as throw-away characters.
ReplyDeleteErica was arguably one of greatest additions to Season Two, but the way they just threw her away now was infuriating. And Boyd - well...I am not calling Teen Wolf a racist show yet, but that's two POC people dead this season already. Not a good start.
Otherwise the episode was GREAT and intense, even if a bit disjointed and frantic(then again that's definition of this season so far). There's not a single flaw in what has been happening this episode and it contained dozens of moments that sent chills down my spine. Also freaking butterflies - I am sorry, but after Haven, its the scariest thing ever.
If there was one narrative-downside, its that we STILL have no idea at all on what is going on this season - we have alpha pack and we have druids and darach and serial murders and Scott's alpha-ness and so far we have nothing to connect those things with at all. Hopefully the show starts explaining stuff soon because the build up so far been freaking great.
I think its quite clear that alpha pack will join scott's pack sometime soon - Ethan and his brother normally, and Kali after she finds out how exactly the bald-guy died and that Deucalion killed him.
ReplyDeleteIf they have not said it, the less rational part of fanbase would be still raging on it calling it a plothole. I mean we STILL have people who think that Scott is dumb or that Derek is a great leader, as well as people who just don't get how and why Jackson was kanima.
ReplyDeleteu are trying to create an issue where there is none. how many 'white' ppl have died since the show started. come on really???
ReplyDeletewhite deaths are non-issue just like male deaths are nonissue, since its the privileged race. Minority deaths on other hand have to get more attention for pure fact that they do NOT have the privilege, especially considering POC to white ratio in the show cast - ...its two POC characters in Six freaking episodes of 20 or so episode season, and that is worrisome already EVEN if we did not have "big black man killin' your kids" stereotype few episodes back.
ReplyDeleteWhat's more its 3 female deaths in the same timespan, but that aspect is sort of balanced out by actual empowering moments for females.
sighhh. conspiracy rite. as long as all u see is the color of their skin, there will always be racism even when its not intended but simply becaus thats how u think. the vet guy was taken...'omg its caus he's black'......no.
ReplyDeleteAh, I see the the 'you're making it up!' racist has arrived.
ReplyDeleteThe writers of horror or superhero stories prefer to have the villains kill off mainly innocent girls and women, for one reason: to make them apppear especially despicable. A hero only works for the audience if he or she is fighting an especially despicable villain. Of course, that kind of suggests that killing females is more deplorable than killing males, which you could call a kind of inverse sexism.
ReplyDeleteLoved the episode and can't wait for next week!
ReplyDeleteAnyone else think that maybe the Darach is somehow connected with the Argent's?
And also the tree Lydia keeps drawing....idk but i guess, the tree is linked to the Darach( it's power source or something like that..)?
I don't think that Kali will ever join Scott - she might turn against Deucalion in revenge and team up with Scott just for the fight, but that will most likely be the extent of it.
ReplyDeletei've brushed up on my mythology (real and tv alike) and still can't find what Lydia is; she's something alright but right now she fits several different things and it's still non-conclusive...
ReplyDeleteso Kali is responsible for both Erica's and Boyd's deaths.....they did want them starved and ready to attack Derek but Erica attacked and she must have put up a hell of a fight if Kali couldn't subdue her and had to kill her. Go Erica!
ps most confusing thing about the ep for me is: why would Derek care who's dating Lydia?!
Its not exactly inverse sexism, though, is it - its the very same idea that females have to be "looked after" and "protected" from big bard world, essentially undoing everything shows like Buffy stood for.
ReplyDeleteTrees are the hint, I guess. She most likely is a druid on her way of awakening her powers.
ReplyDeleteThat way this whole Darach storyline can serve as build up for possible dark lydia storyline somewhere down theline.
Which is exactly fine as it would introduce a wild card ;P
ReplyDeleteLmao. Just stop. This is silly. Like I'm borderline thinking you're trolling or something because your view is ridiculous. Are you seriously implying that white and male deaths don't matter and female and colored deaths are some magical racism hidden?
ReplyDeleteThere was no stereotype a few episodes back. At all. Unless the female was a stereotype of a woman on her period.
Because Lydia is part of the circle of friends Scott hangs out with. Scott hangs out with members of Derek's pack. Dating the "enemy" is a conflict of interests.
ReplyDeleteRe your #2 I said just that to my daughter earlier today. We also about if Danny should be told before he learns "the truth" the hard way like Scott's mother... we both thought Yes.
ReplyDeleteI *don't think* Sheriff Stilinski knows - yet - but I do think he will learn "it" soon; Scott wanted to him already but Stiles thought his dad had too much on his shoulders atm.
And my comment which had nothing offensive and completely normal and
ReplyDeleterelevant arguments disappeared. REAL NICE, Spoilertv. REAL NICE.
He said "The full moon, that feeling, it was worth it. There's a lunar eclipse, I always wondered what that felt like for one of us."
ReplyDeleteThanks =)
ReplyDelete*nods* Agreed on both accounts.
ReplyDeleteI'd like to think the Sheriff saw Scott struggle too... which is another red flag that he already knows more, and isn't simply, finally catching on. I mean he just accepts all this weird?
It's not like when Ms.Blake was in the basement. I mean she actually saw Boyd and Cora in werewolf form... that's quite hard to dismiss as proof. But seeing Scott have difficulty trying to get through thin air and just go with it is a bit of stretch....
I think Ethan is a shoe in.... not so sure about Aiden though...
ReplyDeleteKali? Definitely not. In fact Derek needs to finally end that bitch! (it's so his kill I'll be pissed if anyone else does it...)
Maybe.... though that's a big maybe. I'm personally hoping Derek simply lets her know who really killed Ennis just before "he rips her throat out with his teeth."
ReplyDeleteRe Danny: I go back and forth over weather I want him to know or not.... most of the time I'm leaning on "not" but I think with him dating Ethan it's kinda inevitable.
ReplyDeleteRe the Sheriff: I get both sides of the argument. It's just that personally I think there have been way too many little details which indicate he might actually be WAY more aware. WAY way more aware, not just "is suspicious" aware.
Wherever on that spectrum he eventually is revealed to fall on (be it "he knows nothing", "he suspects", "he's figured most/all of it out", "he's known about everything for a while", "he's known since forever, even before the show started") will be believable as far Im concerned.
However my personal estimate/spec falls in the "he actually knows" categories.
It's the "since when has he known" which will be the issue....
It would be awesome to see her reaction if she did lose.
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