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6 May 2013

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60 comments:

  1. Kevin Clark6 May 2013 at 04:02

    this show is so boring

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  2. Nerwen Aldarion6 May 2013 at 04:09

    Holy SHIT! What is going to happen next year??? Red John is going to start killing again...and A LOT! God if he goes after Lisbon.... Shit this is going to be a long five months.

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  3. McSwarek6 May 2013 at 04:33

    Underwhelming is the word to describe this episode, I believe. I liked the overall atmosphere and all the tidbits about Jane's past as well as hints at Jisbon, but it didn't feel like a finale at all. The rest of the team were left behind, Van Pelt/Rigsby and Kirkland storylines were left hanging. Red John is even more superpowerful and omniscient. The Red John friend killing herself was a total cop-out - the writers didn't even try to cut that end in a believable fashion. Also, whatever for were all the clues about RJ if the suspects don't even match the little info we "know" about him? I think this season was at least one episode short.

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  4. Aylass016 May 2013 at 04:39

    I always thought that Red John was Brett Partridge, but now that he's on the list, well, I don't know what to think anymore...has it been confirmed that Red John is in fact one of those seven? Does anyone know?

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  5. McSwarek6 May 2013 at 04:40

    Heller confirmed Red John is indeed one of the suspects on the list.

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  6. Luana Arturi6 May 2013 at 06:23

    The thing is even if only one of them is RJ some of them are also accomplices

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  7. AAA6 May 2013 at 07:12

    I don't think it's Sheriff McAllister because he only appeared once in season 1 episode 2 and did not appear in this season while the other 6 suspects did. If Red John is someone who has appeared more than once then we can also rule out Reede Smith. I don't think it's Brett Stiles because the FBI has been after him for years and you would expect Red John to be someone not currently being investigated by law enforcement. The most suspicious so far is Bob Kirkland, either he's Red John or one of his friends. If it's not Kirkland then Red John is probably one of the 3 people in CBI: Gale Bertram, Ray Haffner or Brett Partridge.

    Next season will most likely deal with eliminating the suspects one by one. Some episodes will focus on some of the suspects and at the end of each of these episodes a suspect's name gets eliminated. So basically after one episode in the next season the number of suspects goes down to 6 and then after another episode it goes down to 5 and so on.

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  8. Brittany6 May 2013 at 08:22

    How can Bob Kirkland be on the list??? That's so stupid! Patrick didn't even know of Kirkland's existence by the time Lorelai said that "RJ is someone who Patrick knows very well and shook hands with".
    No Minelli on the list nor Mashburn. I'm frustrated...

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  9. Aydrian6 May 2013 at 08:36

    RJ is a little full of himself. Him guessing the names that Jane had narrowed down to wasn't the least bit impressive. He already knew one of those names (himself) and he used the same process of elimination that Jane used to find the others.


    As for that psychic, he cold read Lisbon like a book. Anyone with even a basic understanding of body language could glean that Lisbon has a thing for Jane in that short conversation, and the fact that they were both sitting on almost opposite ends of the couch told him they aren't intimate. People who are intimate often sit closer to each other even if they don't make the conscious choice to do so.


    From there he could draw the conclusion that she is a little bit in love with Jane and she lays awake thinking about him sometimes. Telling her she lays awake thinking about Jane gave him enough of a reaction from her to also deduce her feelings for him. I lay awake thinking about people all the time, that doesn't mean I'm in love with them. Their body language and her reaction to the first part gave him all he needed to say she is in love with Jane, and even if she had denied it her face spoke volumes.


    I'm not sure how he know about the drinking thing. I only saw the scene once. I'll rewatch it later and find the tell.

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  10. Colette6 May 2013 at 09:07

    Thanks Bruno, awesome Season Finale!!:) So excited for Season 6 now!

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  11. Harkanwar Singh6 May 2013 at 09:09

    then why are you watching it?

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  12. Happy FinaleSunday6 May 2013 at 10:16

    But bruno also confirmed that we will find out who RJ is on this finale. So, take bruno's word with a grain of salt ;)

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  13. Milan Pavicic6 May 2013 at 10:36

    Quality season finale a bit light on the action but I don't think it's always necessary for the finale to be action packed this was more of a way to make us anticipate the following season even more!

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  14. phnxgrl6 May 2013 at 10:54

    I found this season ending intriguing I think this allusion to Red John having powers strange. I also find the Jane not telling anyone about a happy thought ridiculous because in therapy that is one of the first things they do is ask you about a happy memory. Red John has access to Sophie Miller's notes on his therapy. That how he is going to kill each happy memory.

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  15. phnxgrl6 May 2013 at 10:57

    They are all Red John! It is a cult. Red John is a role. They have all killed in the name of Red John.

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  16. Lord Nikon6 May 2013 at 11:36

    Great episode can't wait for next season. And i think that Brett is Red John. But as for Homeland Security agent Robert or what ever his name is i think the he is not Red John but only works for him. And he is the one that told to Red John about this happy memory and about the list.

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  17. Rothelena6 May 2013 at 11:36

    We all knew that wouldn't happen, because when Red John is caught the show will be over. Since it was renewed for a sixth season, it was pretty much clear they wouldn't find him this season. If you hate the Red John storyline, why are you watching the show? The Mentalist pretty much IS the RJ arc, and we were never given a reason to believe that there's anything else coming after it!

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  18. McSwarek6 May 2013 at 11:57

    No, he didn't. He stated that they would work through that next season. Of course, given his track record we might be a bit wary of him... ;]

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  19. Red Mask6 May 2013 at 11:57

    Yes, he did... "This is the final chase," Heller says. "We will know who Red John is and we will catch him next season. Everything that has happened over ther past five years will come to a head, and things will change drastically. This is the biggest finale in terms of game-changing and setting up for the last act of the Red John saga. This is as definitive and revolutionary as you can get."

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  20. McSwarek6 May 2013 at 12:03

    Exactly, nowhere in this sentence does he state they would reveal Red John's identity in the finale.

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  21. Andre6 May 2013 at 12:13

    Few things about the episode:

    At the end of the episode it was made out that Red John is one step ahead..........I disagree. I think Jane is ahead and he knew Red John would know who his suspects were.

    Why? The breakin to Janes room where he planted the toothpick. In that room I think Jane planted evidence of the suspects and his "happy memory". He was waiting for someone to break in...... and when they did it showed Jane grinning.

    Kirkland now with all the info from that room, told Red John and thus began Red Johns "trip down memory lane" and his knowledge of the suspects. At least that's my theory

    Also a few other tidbits about this episode: All the characters people suspect to be Red John were on that list apart from maby La Roche, who basically was ruled out in the previous episode in my view. I also thought there was an extra effort by the writers to make Patridge believable as being Red John with that opening scene at the murder scene and his comments I believe they did this just to tease the audience.

    Also Kirkland only recently came onto the show so he doesn't quite fit the role of " Someone Janes shaken hands with" Also does anyone seriously believe Bertram is Red John. They guy is a goof. He could maby be one of his disciples........but not Red John. The only people who it could be, who are on that list is Bret Stiles or Patridge in my opinion. Maby all of them are his disciples......... but I find it hard to believe any of them are Red John.

    Also I found Laurelies message too calm. Maby her "shaking hands" message was all an act. Especially when Red John specifically mentioned that comment in the message.

    But if it wasnt....... who has Jane told about her comment about him shaking hands with Red John ...... ............Lisbon

    The interesting thing in this episode was when Jane pointed out Lisbon hurt her wrist and she had a cast on. The camera panned down and focused on it. I found this odd and very random and there wasn't much explanation for it, as Lisbon clearly lied and said " it was nothing, I tripped". Jane had that odd, untrusting look on his face. Maby she had killed the girl or had done something else devious? s

    Is Lisbon hiding something......... They made it a point in the episode to make her out to be someone that couldn't lie and kept emphasizing her honesty etc............This is something that the writers seem to enforce ......................

    Maby Lisbon is in on it?



    Thoughts?

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  22. McSwarek6 May 2013 at 12:30

    So Jane deliberately pitched that girl for RJ to kill? I don't think so. Jane was visibly, and in my opinion sincerely, angry at the end of the episode.
    Also, Lorelei's message was recorded some time before the break-in. Whatever was Red John's source of information on Jane, it wasn't the board that Kirkland copied.


    As for the cast on Lisbon's wrist, I think Jane looked concerned for her, not distrustful. And the cast was there because Robin Tunney hurt her wrist IRL.

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  23. Yiyi6 May 2013 at 12:42

    I partly agree with you about the connection between RJ list and previous break-in. In that episode, Jane obviously expected the coming of Kirkland.

    My guess is: the final 7 names aren't all the suspects of RJ. I think Sheriff McAllister is the misleading by Jane to RJ. When RJ shows his names as he did in this ep, Jane would know that Kirkland must be related to RJ. Therefore, for Jane, the start of investigating RJ will be Kirkland.

    About Lisbon, the focus on her wrist, I suppose it's just telling audiences why Lisbon hasn't used her wrist since 5x20 because Robin DID hurt her wrist in reality. I don't think RJ is Lisbon, Cho, Rigsby or Van Pelt. It just doesn't make sense.

    In season 1 finale, RJ showed up in a cabin to watch their actions through a surveillance, while Lisbon's CBI team were heading to that place together. I excluded them from RJ's list based on that.

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  24. Andre6 May 2013 at 12:43

    Good points, but I think if Robin Tunney was hurt in real life, they wouldn't of worked it into the story. The fact she just said " was nothing, I tripped" was a bit odd and then the camera focused on the cast. I don't think shes involved, but found it a bit odd.


    The reason that breakin must mean something is because there was no real payoff to that scene apart from Jane smirking. There must of been something he wanted Kirkland to take, maby not the memory as you are right in that Jane wouldn't of pitched up the girl for RJ to kill. But there had to be something....and whatever it was,,,,,,,, it is going to give Jane the upper hand or at least a small leg up.


    I also think if any of those suspects on the list are Red John it'll be a bit of a letdown. The only person who has the gravitas to be Red John is Stiles. Patridge is too obvious.

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  25. McSwarek6 May 2013 at 12:49

    No, Robin really broke her wrist. They had to explain somehow why she was wearing a cast and I think they did sufficiently on the show - but maybe that's because I knew the actress was hurt prior to watching the episode.


    I agree that the break-in storyline is still to be explored/concluded and probably will be next season.

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  26. Andre6 May 2013 at 12:51

    I agree Lisbon isn't Red John, but maby a small small possibility of being disciple. I think the writers may have to have a twist like that when the season ends to make it really surprising Its clear Red John doesn't have super powers and can read minds so he has to have infiltrated those closest and dearest to Jane like family or Lisbon.

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  27. InvestedInYourFuture6 May 2013 at 13:19

    The only way this makes sense is if Patrick IS Red John, in some split-personality kind of way. That's the only way to explain feats Red John Displayed this episode.




    Also did they ever explain Lisbon's hand injury or was that left as a mystery?

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  28. Brittany6 May 2013 at 13:23

    Kirkland broke into Jane's atiic after RJ killed Lorelai, who read the list for Red John. So he knew the names before Kirkland got all information he wanted.

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  29. Margo Kowalczyk6 May 2013 at 13:38

    The Mentalist has never been a show for simple casual viewers. It is an intellectually thought provoking show, and that certainly means boring for those of us, looking for barren of thought "action" shows, multiplying on TV in great numbers, you are very welcome to watch instead. Therefore, could you do us that favour?!
    Since 10 million people watch the show in US alone, not counting over 50 million worldwide, the logic tells me you are in a great minority, am I right?

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  30. Nicolás Festa6 May 2013 at 13:53

    It's hard to me catching up with this show. It's likely that i'll do it on the final month of the hiatus... I have a problem with the show, well actually there are two:

    - Since the second half of Season Four, there were no character development on previous episodes... If they did indeed made the characters grow this Season, then it will be more enjoyable for me.

    - Why they don't explaine how he know stuff, other than saying "i knew bla bla bla". If you take shows like Psych or Elementary they explaine to you they're deduction, the clues, etc. so it makes the investigation more compelling. Patricks MO is like "out of nowhere". On some cases i just don't buy it... Some deductions he make are way ambiguous.



    I'm a huge fun of mistery novels and series... But this show tryes to talk down to it's audience like saying "we don't explaine crap, so Patrick seems very inteligent to you". Also, in shows like Psych, Castle, Elementary, the police are intelligent... These ones seems dumb...


    Neverless, I LOVE THE RED JOHN CASE... CAN SOMEONE TELL WICH EPISODES TO WATCH "RED JOHN RELATED OF SEASON 5"? AND IF THERE'S MORE CHARACTER DEVELOPEMENT THIS SEASON...

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  31. diana mack.6 May 2013 at 14:06

    So season 6 is going to be last season? :(

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  32. Rothelena6 May 2013 at 14:50

    I would take any bet that Heller has no interest in pissing off the huge Lisbon fan crowd like that... it would almost be as bad as making Jane himself Red John, and would influence the reception of the series in the future in a totally negative way. Many fans are emotionally invested in the characters instead of merely seeing the whole thing as an intellectual exercise, and somebody like Heller, who has more shows planned and clearly wants to have a future in television, can't risk to shy them away by a move like that. That's just speculation on my side, of course, but I'd be VERY, VERY surprised if the producers would do something like that. And I think it would be a monumental mistake.

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  33. Léon Catracho Patríotico Censu6 May 2013 at 14:52

    We all know that it's definitely more than just a little bit. :)

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  34. Rothelena6 May 2013 at 14:56

    Well, Heller said he IS one of those on the list, and I tend to believe him, he can't continue inventing twists and turns without getting annoying, and since it looks as if season six will be the last, he has to make some headway.
    I think I'd like Haffner, and: Red John would show a convincing front and might even appear as naive and harmless as Haffner or Partridge- it's possible.

    And it's true: Robin Tunney REALLY broke her wrist, she said so herself, and it was certainly easier to work the injury in- it's a one that's difficult to hide, and if they hadn't brought it up, the audience would have wondered. so they made clear that it's no big deal, a injury that just happened, and that was that.

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  35. McSwarek6 May 2013 at 15:23

    I love the show, but let's not exaggerate. It's a solid entertaining show that can be brilliant at times, but it's hardly intellectually demanding. Being a good fodder for speculation is not the same.
    I do think The Mentalist is also for simple casual viewers, otherwise CBS probably wouldn't have bothered putting it on air.

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  36. Robbie6 May 2013 at 16:05

    I still feel that Red John is none of those names and in the end it will someone we know very well. I have a strong feeling RJ is a woman and RJ is just playing along with Jane in his search. That's what I feel but who knows at this point.

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  37. Brittany6 May 2013 at 16:25

    I hope Bruno actually lied to us, saying that one of the names on the list is Red John. I was hoping that Minelli is Red John all the way and now.. he's not even on the list.
    I hope that was another twist, like many many others.

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  38. Korvasieni6 May 2013 at 16:38

    Yes, it would indeed be a monumental mistake. If either Jane or Lisbon turned out to be Red John or an accomplice of his, I would punch a hole in my wall. I doubt Heller would ever do something like that. Fans would be SO MAD.

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  39. Findsy6 May 2013 at 17:04

    How am I supposed to wait 5 months for season 6?! HOW?! O.O I hope season 6 is all Red John! Or you know, a lot. I need season 6!

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  40. Thamila Freire6 May 2013 at 18:13

    I desagree, tm is such a subtle show that some people sometimes can't get some references from literature material and other things...The mentalist has unique things that makes this show so good, s other shows have their own caracteristics and all that...

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  41. Robin19886 May 2013 at 18:15

    Cannot agree more.

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  42. Thamila Freire6 May 2013 at 18:18

    she didn't say he knew red john very well.. in fact , watching all the scenes lorelei appeared with jane, not even in one scene that i watched with them together jane shook hands with a man in lorelei's presence. red john probably just told her that bit of information, that he had shook hands with jane.. and probably told that jane didn't like him at first.. we now know that jane knows the suspects rather well... and rj probably meant that he doesn't have a good relationship with jane so that is why since the begining jane didn't like him...

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  43. Thamila Freire6 May 2013 at 18:23

    more character development? of course there was... what to say about how vanpelt seemes way more mature than she was back in season 1?? what about rigsby and vanpelt's relationship and how rigs seemed more confident,not like that childish rigs from seaosn 1?? what about jane and lisbon's relationship?? how he learnt to trust her and lisbon him?? how she listen to him more and don't try to control the man like before but rather listen to him and try to make him see reason rather than just lecture him?? and what about jane trusting lisbon even more ,telling her about rj and what he discovered?? what about him opening up to her, more than he did in season 1?? he even talked about his past to her in this sf, said more about himself to her!!! are u watching the same show as i am??? coz doesn't seem so!!

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  44. Jake Wilson6 May 2013 at 18:25

    totally agree, although she didn't say "very well", but that doesn't make any difference. Lorelai had no idea about their (Kirkland and Jane's) handshake then. She must've seen that in the past, when Patrick didn't know her. They took away the best and the most logic suspect - Virgil Minelli. He was the best candidate. They'll ruin the plot of RJ story making RJ someone of those 7 names. I still hope that this list was a bogus. And Jane was just trying to catch the rat who copied information from his attic, making the bogus list of suspects. Will see....

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  45. hugo6 May 2013 at 18:26

    This was the worst season finale I have ever seen. I am not watching the show next season...they lost a viewer. They completely threw out all of the previous Red John episodes. They ignored Rosalind Harkers's physical description which we know Jane believed because he had her come last season to confirm that Timothy Carter was not Red John. They ignored Red Barn from this season. In that episode, Jane said Red John could be no older than 55 years old...yet Bret Stiles was on his list. If they are going to ignore what they told us earlier this season, I no longer trust anything I see on the show. They have turned Red John into a comic book villain with super powers. A once great show is now total trash. I have wasted enough time watching it. No more.

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  46. Thamila Freire6 May 2013 at 18:27

    great season finale, heller just prepared us to the grand finale of the mentalist in season 6. we'll have lots of red john cases, now that rj told jane he was going to kill often! we're gonna see jane and the team trying to catch the bastard and succeding^^ we're gonna see this sick game of cat and mouse between jane and red john reaching its break point and i can't wait to see what is gonna happen now that one of those 7 men is red john and he is only wait for jane to make his move....

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  47. start_wearing_purple6 May 2013 at 18:39

    I tend to disagree. I think they rebranded Red John. The truth is I already thought he was too powerful. He had a skill set that went beyond anything. However I think they changed him simply into a someone with great deductive and manipulative abilities, non-supernatural. In other words the classical villain, a character similar to the hero but with more refined characteristics.


    Though I agree about Stiles. I thought it was established in Red Barn that Red John was a member of Visualize while Stiles was elsewhere controlling Visualize.

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  48. JasonNYC6 May 2013 at 18:41

    Tell me about it! When I saw the list I thought I will smash my TV or throw it through the window..
    How can they not to put Minelli on the list. Literally the best suspect. I like Mashburn as Red John as well, but Minelli was my favourite. I'm so mad right now. Ok, let's hope they gave us not the list Patrick actually made. All these 7 suspects are boring and there are so many contradictions if any of them is Red John.

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  49. spoilerific6 May 2013 at 19:10

    Here we go then. Let me run this idea by you guys, and get your thoughts. My prediction......

    After seeing the finale, it is my firm belief that it will be revealed that Patrick has known Red John since the early days of season 1, and that throughout the entire show, he has met Red John many times and told him everything he does, and knows about himself, and the Red John cases. We're led to believe that Red John is a 'Mentalist' much like Patrick. He can hypnotise, which I believe is the key to this whole mystery.

    We've seen Patrick hypnotise people throughout the show, and I think even Lisbon has asked 'how would you feel if someone did that to you?'. I believe this hits the nail on the head. Patrick meets with Red John a great deal. He tells him intimate details about himself (such as his cherished memory that was taken from him in the finale), about cases that he works, including Red John ones. Patrick has always worried about trusting people, fearing that they could be one of Red John's accomplices or leak information to him. The irony is that the whole time it's been him. He is why they can't catch Red John. If the CBI worked on their own, if they had the ability to deduct it, they'd do better to catch him without Patrick's help.

    Each time Red John meets with Patrick, and Patrick tells him things, Red John hypnotises Patrick to forget they've even met. This is how Red John is 'one step ahead' of Patrick.

    The heartbreaking irony will be for Patrick, eventually finding out that the one man he's tried to find for so long, he's known all along. And his pride and joy, his memory and 'abilities' have let him down.

    I believe this will be the answer, the reveal, and the final conclusion. As for WHO Red John is? I don't know. But I believe he has been using Patrick without Patrick knowing, for a very, very long time in the show.

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  50. Famous4it6 May 2013 at 19:57

    I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that he said by the end of the episode we will know RJ's name...which technically we do because we know all seven names, one of which is RJ based on Heller's statement.

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  51. C.j. Loquitur6 May 2013 at 20:39

    This. People say he can't be in two places at once. He can if one of his minions is there. Just another magic trick to be in two places at once. He's with the team and his minion kills someone in his name. It 's possible. But Bruno said there were no more games that one of the list was Red John so, I'm hoping that is true and not some kind of deception. I don't think it is and he said that it wasn't so I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt.

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  52. EDGAR J.H.WELLS6 May 2013 at 21:20

    Fu Fag

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  53. Andrea7 May 2013 at 00:26

    dont let the door hit you on the way out

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  54. Jordana337 May 2013 at 01:19

    There is actually more to than Red John for those not just interested in Red John. But seriously, do you always attack people when they don't like an aspect of the show that you do? Obviously there's something I like about the show, or else I wouldn't be watching it.

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  55. McSwarek7 May 2013 at 03:52

    Lol. You can only hypnotise a mentally weak person. You can't really say that about Jane.

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  56. Claire7 May 2013 at 04:08

    Yes, but he could have done it while Jane was on the mental facility years ago. He was weak then, he might have disguised and get information from him, or even read the reports of his sessions.

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  57. JasonNYC7 May 2013 at 10:57

    How could she know about their handshake? She was in prison by that time. And she said that she's wondering how two of them didn't become lifelong friends the moment they shook hands. In addition to the fact that they didn't even have a chance to become friends (Patrick and Kirkland) how could she know about their handshake. RJ is well-know to Patrick, and Jane should know that and according to that he should've made his list. But Bruno decided not put 2 great suspects on the list and ruin hopes of millions of people putting those two (Reed Smith and Sherif) ion the list, when no one has suspected them at all.

    I'm completely agree with Brittany about Minelli, he's a great suspect! And what the hell is Reed Smith and Sheriff MacAlister are doing on the list? I have a feeling that people who made that list, spent 5 minutes on making it. No one on earth suspected Reed Smith or SheriffMacAlister. But Minelli has been a suspect for millions of people! As was Mashburn.

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  58. JasonNYC7 May 2013 at 11:01

    I completely agree with Brittany about Minelli, he's a great suspect! And what the hell is Reed Smith and Sheriff MacAlister are doing on the list? I have a feeling that people who made that list, spent 5 minutes on making it. No one on earth has suspected Reed Smith or SheriffMacAlister. But Minelli has been a suspect for millions of people! As was Mashburn.

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  59. Rothelena7 May 2013 at 11:27

    That wasn't meant in an aggressive way, sorry if you thought it was. I'm
    just genuinely wondering why people tired of the Red John storyline are
    still tuning in, since it's the biggest part of the show.But I'm totally fine with fans liking different parts of the show, so I meant no offence.

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  60. Andre8 May 2013 at 04:08

    Who knows maby they will pull out a "Usual Suspects" style twist. Someone we never suspected, who has a sudden personality, speech change.

    I almost forgot about another major character who was very mysterious, who was kidnapped by Red John, not killed then found. Kristina Frye, The Physic Jane had a thing for

    This is the synopsis about the last episode she was in:

    In The Blood On His Hands, Frye is found in a catatonic state. While she is certainly alive, she appears to be unable or unwilling to communicate with anyone and does nothing except stare blankly at whatever is in front of her. Later, Jane manages to briefly bring her back to her normal self by holding a small seance, in which she claims thatshe is already dead and that he is talking to a ghost. When Jane asked who "killed" her, she claims that she is unable to remember and that it is unimportant to her as she has moved on. When Jane ask her if she knows what red John looks like she tells him she doesn't understand what he is asking. Jane is not satisfied, but gives up on trying to get any more information.

    Maby Red John is able to mentally alter people, and maby he has done that to Jane.

    Maby Frye was acting all along, and providing the physic link for Red John.

    Whos knows, but maby there is more story for Frye yet?

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