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Once Upon a Time - Episode 2.18 - Selfless, Brave and True - Sneak Peek 2

21 Mar 2013

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41 comments:

  1. James Swift21 March 2013 at 23:08

    Everyone in Gepetto's position would have done the same thing.. He apologized alright, but he shouldn't have to do it over and over and walk on his knees. No one can tell me they wouldn't have tried to save their child had they been in his position.

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  2. laura334121 March 2013 at 23:14

    Yes snow,that's you.

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  3. Nathiest21 March 2013 at 23:16

    That wasn't me, I'm not myself. Are they going to Professor X this?

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  4. Bruce_F21 March 2013 at 23:17

    Let's not get carried away. Marco isn't apologizing over and over, he's not groveling, and he's not doing it because he has to. Marco is acting this way simply because he's a very kind man who feels terrible about his decision even though there are others who would have done the same in his position. He's just a gentle soul who genuinely feels remorseful for his deception.

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  5. magnutude21 March 2013 at 23:20

    it looks like the black spot in MM's heart is spreading.....

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  6. MusicMaker201021 March 2013 at 23:37

    I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR SNOW TO FREAK OUT ON HIM FOR THE ENTIRE SEASON!!!!

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  7. Ashley21 March 2013 at 23:43

    I can't bring myself for blame Geppetto much. Who wouldn't be tempted at the very least to do what he did?

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  8. InvestedInYourFuture21 March 2013 at 23:46

    All it takes is the first step.

    Now Snow already did something very dark and malicious and what did it accomplish psychologically?

    Accepting moral compromises. And for snow, someone who has ALWAYS been in control, with her moral compass as restraint, such a thing leads to lesser restraint.

    So while the Old Snow would not punch Gepetto in the face in that scene, this one is unconsciously far less restricted by her inhibitions.

    And it is followed by her horrified realization that she would do something like that, shown through her identity crisis and denial - her rationalization that “that wasn’t me”, which echoes her “its not who I am”
    after her decision in Miller’s Daughter - because her restraint is lower, she.is is more prone on acting upon her emotions and at the same time each such act makes her even more surprised at herself, only driving her deeper into despair.

    I am guessing that through 2x18 and 2x19 we see her go more and more off the deep end to the point that 2x20, “The Evil Queen” actually refers to her and not just Regina.

    After all the first compromise is the hardest and after that - its easier and easier to loose control.

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  9. InvestedInYourFuture21 March 2013 at 23:49

    I doubt it.


    It seemed more like Snow being in denial(just like in Miller's Daughter after her decision "this isn't me)


    The very IDEA of HOW Snow sees herself is challenged.



    Snow has been, for the lack of better word, "stuck up" person her entire life - clinging to her morality with everything she got. And that decision with Cora was the pebble that started the avalanche



    Snow's self-restraint is fading. Impulsive actions that would normally be stopped by her inhibitions slip through.

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  10. InvestedInYourFuture21 March 2013 at 23:50

    I am guessing 2x18 and 2x19 have Snow slowly going off her rails accepting her, hm, darker capabilities.


    Then 2x20 "The Evil Queen" would be about both Regina and Snow.

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  11. chestal22 March 2013 at 00:03

    i thought exactly the same, i wouldn't even have apologized, well, maybe for lying, but that's it, it was for his child for the love of god, everyone would've done the same!

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  12. Suliet0522 March 2013 at 00:05

    That is a justified slap.

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  13. Lucy Batochio22 March 2013 at 00:16

    I can see both sides and I agree with both reactions. I'd send my kid through that wardrobe without a second thought AND I`d punch the daylights of Gepetto if I was Snow and found out I left my child alone because some fool decided his child was better than my family. But I already have a heart with black spots all over it.

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  14. Deeca22 March 2013 at 01:10

    there's a little black spot on your heart today...

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  15. Symce (Mylene)22 March 2013 at 01:40

    Now that's something I can get behind. I'd like them to actually talk for a change, instead of slinging insults, forcing apples down another's throat, or pulling out someone's heart (and murdering ppl falls somewhere inbetween)

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  16. Symce (Mylene)22 March 2013 at 01:43

    TBH I'd have clocked him too. I get where he's coming from ofc too.


    Now I'm patiently awaiting for Snow to clobber Blue too, since that damned fairy is wishy-washy and just as much to blame for the whole wardrobe-ordeal as Gepetto was.

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  17. Wylie Snow22 March 2013 at 02:28

    Snow is sounding alot like Regina lately.

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  18. InvestedInYourFuture22 March 2013 at 03:53

    I would love this show even more if the next time Snow and Blue share a scene, Snow just randomly punches Blue out of nowhere.

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  19. Justyna Kubica22 March 2013 at 09:38

    I can't really blame her for a slap. The truth hurts. But why is she saying it's not her?

    Also can't blame Gepetto. He lied. But he was trying to save his son.

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  20. Aleksandra Anna Gorska22 March 2013 at 11:19

    OMG I don't get it. Seriously. Snow had a choice - let Cora live and murder all the Charming's family or kill her and save everyone and of course murdering someone is not really acceptable and it is bad thing, but having this kind of choice doesn't make your heart turn black. Seriously, this is really silly.

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  21. stormqueen22 March 2013 at 13:17

    Hmm. I'm not sure how I feel about it. I mean, Snow has every right to be angry because of what she lost but she should probably be more angry at the Blue Fairy. But Marco doing that wasn't any more unreasonable than any other parent, despite sending a 7 year old through to look after a baby which maybe isn't the best decision, but questioning why everyone falls second to the Charming family is smart and savvy.

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  22. stormqueen22 March 2013 at 13:20

    Right? Like, sure I can see a black spot of your mark/soul but how about dealing with the action and questioning her PAST actions rather than just having some sort of Right Hand of Evil deal.

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  23. Aleksandra Anna Gorska22 March 2013 at 14:23

    But there is also one thing, Snow was a fighter and we saw her fighting and there was also this whole war and she never killed anyone before? That is just kind of strange. I mean I still think that murder is bad, but here really she had no other choice. But maybe in fairytales one murder makes you the bad one. Idk but it is a little bit weird.

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  24. stormqueen22 March 2013 at 14:52

    Apparently she's never killed anyone, and slashing swords across people's belly is just 'incapacitating'. Although ordering people to kill others seems to be a strike against Regina and any resulting deaths are considered blood on her hands, so you'd think Snow, having stormed a castle and instigated a war/coup (on two separate kingdoms, only one of which she or Charming had any claim to) would have resulted in the same thing.

    I don't know if it's the "she didn't have any choice" so much as the method. Rather than say that Cora needed to die because she was a threat, which she was, she traded Cora's life for Gold's (even though they are also in serious danger from him as he's threatened their lives multiple times in the past few episodes) and tricked the biggest victim of Cora's abuse into being her delivery system. Although I suspect it's the murder itself rather than lying to Regina about Cora and Henry, using trickery and horrible cruelty, that the show is going with. Which is much less interesting.

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  25. Aleksandra Anna Gorska22 March 2013 at 15:01

    Well maybe you are right. I mean the murder itself was necessary and still bad, but the fact that Snow tricked Regina to kill Cora was very cruel. And I think the whole "you have the purest heart" is not helping her.
    But someone had to kill Cora. It was Snow, I feel sorry for her because it is huge responsibility, but I also think that turning Snow into the Dark One and making her behaving like that is a little bit odd.

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  26. Sara Sleegers22 March 2013 at 15:17

    I love the SwanFamily I need to see more of them

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  27. martha adair22 March 2013 at 16:46

    OMG! WOW. She is now loosing her patience. Love is patience and forgiving and kind, etc. Her heart is darkening. SHE needs to seek therapy and get help so that the blackness can stop. Just like us regular people.

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  28. Wylie Snow22 March 2013 at 17:06

    Emma murdered Maleficent to try and save Henry does that mean she turning evil too?

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  29. stormqueen22 March 2013 at 17:09

    No, because....ssh, it wasn't a murder! She evil! Emma good! Don't use logic! Critical thinking or a brain in general is the enemy of this show.

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  30. Aleksandra Anna Gorska22 March 2013 at 19:26

    It is like with Doctor Who - never apply logic to Who.
    But good point, Emma killed Maleficent and she is more than fine. Maybe because she had her time in jail and she wasn't pure heart like Snow. Idk. Weird.

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  31. Mal22 March 2013 at 21:56

    What is this Emma's reaction?! "He apologised so now everything is ok and he doesn't deserve the slap because people just need to say sorry and things will be square"?! HELLO? This man destroyed your childhood but single 'sorry' is fine? Right on Snow, he deserves a slap at the very least!

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  32. Alexander Brownie23 March 2013 at 00:46

    No, because the Snow White thing to do would have been to give Regina Cora's heart and that whole speech without having cursed it first, trusting that Cora could change if she had her heart back. Which, as we saw, was probably true.

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  33. Alexander Brownie23 March 2013 at 00:48

    Maleficent was locked in combat with her, that's not murder. Very different situation.

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  34. Alexander Brownie23 March 2013 at 00:50

    I don't see why she should be more angry at Blue. Blue was blackmailed into lying to her; Geppetto refused to make the wardrobe in the first place unless she did.

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  35. Alexander Brownie23 March 2013 at 00:51

    I think to Emma it's academic. She wasn't there and her life was what it was.

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  36. Aleksandra Anna Gorska23 March 2013 at 22:04

    Well maybe not, but dragon or not she was enchanted human. This is like really bizarre show. Once murdering someone is ok, but then it is not.

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  37. 12324 March 2013 at 10:23

    Well, IMO Snow is finally getting a normal human.
    "Love is patience and forgiving and kind, etc" ...yes the FTL kind of love (or maybe the love of Jesus;))To be honest, this highly idealized sort of 'love and goodness', was getting on my nerves!

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  38. stormqueen25 March 2013 at 13:32

    I would be more angry at the millenia old fairy with magic over the distraught father.

    It's not like Geppetto is the ONLY carpenter in all of the land. And based on how many people have showed up in Storybrooke, the Blue Fairy could have used that 300 years heads up she had about the curse to do some thinking.

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  39. stormqueen25 March 2013 at 13:34

    Not really. Emma went and started a fight because her goal was to kill her. Just because Maleficent fought back doesn't make it less murder.

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  40. Alexander Brownie4 May 2013 at 22:23

    I don't think Regina really explained who or what Maleficent was to her, though. Emma was peripherally aware that she was killing someone to get the potion to save Henry, at most.

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  41. Alexander Brownie4 May 2013 at 22:25

    Bear in mind it was Regina and Gold who told Emma that she had to kill Maleficent to save Henry, and they didn't go into detail about her.

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