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Buffy for me, the show really introduced the idea of having a Big Bad per season and it worked very well. Out of all of them Glory is my favourite as she was a real threat that at times seemed like she would actually win.
I pick Chuck, because most of the villains there, were super funny :D but I think that Vampire Diaries has great and fantastic bad boys/girls too (Katherine!!!!, Klaus...)
AND NO "ONCE UPON A TIME"???? I don't even see "Revenge" and "The Good Wife". :( I'm guessing the user who submitted the poll hasn't seen them (yet), in which case he has a lot of catching up to do. ;)
Merlin.... Morgana was the villain that we love to hate, and hate to love... She was awesome.... I think that although she was badass you couldn't hate her..... (Aghhh bring Merlin back!!!! )
Other: Game of Thrones. I think of Littlefinger, Tywin Lannister, Cercei, Jaime,... I like when the bad people are not the 'Muhahaha I'm Evil' type, but instead people who do bad things -in the point of view of other characters- because they have their reasons to do so.
It's a tricky question because what is a best villain : the most villainous (the one who's the more twisty, evil and badass) or the most subtle (the one you root for, that you can truly understand) ? I love a complex, gray 'bad guy', but I also love an evil one. All in all, I'm going to say :
- 24's Ira Gaines, Andre & Victor Drazen, Nina Myers, Sherry Palmer, Stephen Saunders, Charles Logan, Christopher Henderson, etc. 24 had a great collection of bad guy throughout the days. - Breaking Bad's Gus Fring (but Walter is also kind of a villain himself). - Lost's Benjamin Linus. - Sleeper Cell's Farik. - Buffy's Spike. - Alias' Arvin Sloan. - Homeland's Nicholas Brody. - Damages' Arthur Frobisher (but Patty is also kind of a villain herself). - Dexter's Arthur 'Trinity' Mitchell (but Dexter is also kind of a villain himself). - The Wire's Stringer Bell & Marlo Stanfield (among others). - The Shield's Kavanaugh (but Vic is also kind of a villain himself).
I would name one of the bad guys of Sons of Anarchy season 5 alongside them all, but I don't want to spoil anyone. This show, btw, is another example of why you can't have a great villain unless you have gray anti-heroes. The thiner the limit between good and evil, the better the villains.
Gotta go Chuck - what defines a villan is different for different people though. I chose Chuck because the Villans were constantly entertaining yet awesome baddies - a perfect combination to me personally.
Lost's Benjamin Linus is an example of how a great character doesn't have to be a complete villan, but can still technically fall in those ranks.
Lost: Ethan, Ben, Keamy, Widmore, MIB... They made them all so "human". Dexter: where to start? Brian, Lila, Miguel, Trinity, Jordan, Isaak... All great, well-developed characters. Fringe: David Jones, Newton, Walternate, Fauxlivia, Windmark. Most of them were pretty good threats, and all SO well cast! The actors really made their characters. Person of Interest: Root, Elias, Kara, HR... and then the ones that aren't bad people but still a threat for the main characters like Donnelly. The show always ties the villains to the story in such a great way.
I would like to name some from Game Of Thrones, but they are pretty much all villains so I wouldn't know how. :p
Breaking Bad would be top of my list if its villains were more obviously villains XD Gus Fring, Mike Ehrmantraut, the Salamenca Cartel (Tuco, Tio, and the "brothers") were are so brilliant!
Honestly though our best villain may be the series protagonist Walter White... or his later ego Heisenberg! XD
I have to go with OUAT or Person of Interest. OUAT villains are fleshed out people and we can understand what led to their actions, without excusing them. Person of Interest also gives their recurring villains a depth that other shows don't because they bring the villains back and make them seem like real people, they do pure evil, but they are still human and complicated.
this is a very tricky question because there is not a clear definition of what a villain is. For instance, with the exception of Martin Keamy, Lost had a total of zero villains in the sense that all of them had some sort of humanity and motivation behind what they were doing as wrong as it was. It presented flawed characters that made the wrong choices. That does not qualify as villain for me most of the times. If you are talking about pure hate of a character because he is simply evil, that is different.
Supernatural has had and still has the best villains. The big ones have been Azazel, Lilith, Alistair, Ruby, Lucifer (who can beat Lucifer), Crowley, Zechariah, Castiel (for 6 and beginning of 7), Dick Roman and the Leviathans, and Naomi seems to be a problem for 8. Don't forget the monsters of the week. No one surpasses this. Seriously.
Once Upon a Time. You (at least, I do) actually want the two main villains to be happy. The other two newer, current ones, I'm not so sure about wanting them happy. But they're good at being who they are.
Alias. Sloane, the Derevkos, Sark, Kelly Peyton... everyone's allegiances were shifting so every villain was an ally at one point. Also, Sloane's ending was one of the greatest of all time.
In my opinion Trinity does not beat out Rudy on Dexter.
Also, it's hard to call Kavanaugh a villain when you consider he was trying to nail a dirty cop who's crimes included being a drug lord and murder. He may have broke the law and lost his mind, but no where near the extent that Mackey did.
SPN sometimes wins polls it doesn't deserve, but when you think of Yellow Eyes, Lucifer, Crowley, Gordon Walker, Alistair, Lilith, Zachariah et al, but mostly the amazing, brilliant actors who chewed the scenes out of their roles - then SPN wins by a long shot.
Hmm, this one is tough. It's a tossup between Supernatural and Buffy. Its hard to forget either of their main villains (the early years for both) but they both had awesome standalone villains too.
Smallville! Common Lex Luthor people! Lionel Luthor, Zod, Brainiac, even darkseid and Doomsday get points! 2nd is Other: Stargate SG-1 great show loved Apophis, Anubis and Ba'al great villains especially Anubis! 3rd is Supernatural: Azazel, Lillith, Alastair, Lucifer, Crowley, Mother of All, and Dick Roman!
said heroes (for the early sylar, and for linderman, and arthur even though his arc kinda sucked, but I also love the bad guys in revenge (who are most of the cast) realistic villains are so more evil.. Especially the grayson Couple Also, Trinity, Brian, and Jordan chase from Dexter are awesome villains. Lionel Luthor too even though he also has messed up storylines
Men in Black were in this lol? Kidding man in black but his other name which i like better is Locke! Also smoke monster works for me or smokey. I dont go buy MIB ever. John Locke i considered a anti hero and Smokemonster being Locke made him bad ass! I kinda wish we had more Smokey Locke over real Locke.
I had to go with season 1 of Prison Break. The villains in that show were as smart as the good guys. I loved watching the heros moving steady on their plan and being thwarted, not by happenstance, but because the opponents were smart, observant, and good at their jobs.
SPN, Buffy, Smallville and Prison Break had some really awesome villains but I went with SPN because well...Lucifer, Zachariah, Yellow Eyes, Meg, Ruby, Alastair, Lilith and so on,
i went with Lost because of Benjamin Linus he's a great villian he's my favourite character on Lost he's the character i love to hate but these are only the ones on the poll one that is missing is Dexter with Villian's like Brrian Moser, Arthur Mitchell, Issak Sirko, Miguel Prado and so on
This is tricky. First you have to define what you want out of a villain and then separate villain from the fight. I was going to vote Buffy--nice big bad structure, they always managed to continue to amp but the stakes and difficulty, creative and fantastic final fights (the group attack on Adam, the school against the mayor). However, the bads themselves were kinda so so: Adam was barely present until the end, the Mayor and his old-fashioned dad-ness, I mean Glory? the nerds? Come on. Angelus was probably the best at being psychologically bad, Caleb had some great moments. I like my big bads to be scary and in your head and dark and complex and have consequences. So I think I have to go with Supernatural. Alastair was scary. Crowley is complicated and smart. Lucifer, Death, Lilith. Dick Roman even had consequences and was lethal and cunning.
I guess Fringe isn't on the list since it ended two days ago? Because they sure get my vote. What a great mix of villains this show had. David Robert Jones in S1, Thomas Jerome Newton in S2, Walternate and AltBrandon in S3, Meana in S4 and especially Windmark in S5 take the cake for me.
Other - Nikita. Villains don't get more ruthless, manipulative, cruel, twisted, ice-cold and badass than Percy and Amanda. Oh, and Roan was scary as hell. Even Ari was cool before he pretty much became Amanda's excess baggage
Well, I must admit I haven't seen all the shows on your list, I have seen Supernatural, Buffy, White Collar and Chuck. Anything Buffy is too "meh" for me, and the White Collar villains don't stand out imho, but Supernatural and Chuck did have some interesting villains. My hat is off to Supernatural for getting a lot of amazing guest-stars, I guess they must really have the budget to afford them. As for Chuck, there was quite a big range of villains - from the exaggerated cartoon characters to multi-layered, sophisticated human beings, so I have to agree they were pretty awesome. :D
Revenge does have a myriad of villains, too, it's not just Victoria. Tyler last season was pretty obnoxious; the white-haired agent was pretty dangerous; Ashley has a fair share of skeletons in her closet; plus this season we're finding out more about the Initiative and Helen Crowley. I do find the Initiative (Revenge) to be very similar to The Ring (Chuck), and in a way now they've turned Aiden (Revenge) against Victoria and Emily the way the Ring (Chuck) turned Shaw against Sarah and Chuck.
As for the Good Wife, indeed the villains mostly create intrigue and scheme and are not often killers (but remember Sweeney? Blake was also pretty dangerous and sleazy). Michael J Fox and Matthew Perry also play the kind of characters you love to hate.
um Damon in the first season pearl the vampires from the tomb um Klaus.Katherine The Originals well most of them. That's most of them so what you mean they don't have villains.
I was being sarcastic seeing that the writers have completely ruined klaus's character by the turning him from an actual monstrous villain into a whiny bad boy like they do with all their villains
I did see Revenge, and I have to say I believe Victoria may be the best character on that show, she isn't in the same league as the villains in the shows listed above. Okay, maybe Buffy. And I do need to catch up on the Good Wife, but from what I saw they have decent villains for a law show.
Honestly, it was a toss up between Buffy and Vampire Diaires. I only picked Buffy because they have more clear "Big Bad" structure. But I'd be willing to put Klaus and Katherine up against any of them.
My picks would be: 24, because you get to spend a whole season getting to know the villain before Jack Bauer obliterates them in the end; Once Upon a Time, because each character is so complex that you end up sympathizing and rooting for the villains; Criminal Minds, the villains on that show are crazy!
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I'm going to go with Chuck. The villains on the show were pretty entertaining, if sometimes under utilized, but still great.
ReplyDeleteOther. The Mentalist - Red John. C'mon...
ReplyDeletePersonof Interest has the best villains (Elias,Root,HR,Special Counsel,Kara,Wesley,Hersh)
ReplyDeleteBuffy for me, the show really introduced the idea of having a Big Bad per season and it worked very well. Out of all of them Glory is my favourite as she was a real threat that at times seemed like she would actually win.
ReplyDeleteI pick Chuck, because most of the villains there, were super funny :D but I think that Vampire Diaries has great and fantastic bad boys/girls too (Katherine!!!!, Klaus...)
ReplyDeleteAND NO "ONCE UPON A TIME"???? I don't even see "Revenge" and "The Good Wife". :(
ReplyDeleteI'm guessing the user who submitted the poll hasn't seen them (yet), in which case he has a lot of catching up to do. ;)
While Person of Interest certainly comes close in terms of awesome and diverse villain cast, I have to go with Buffy on this one
ReplyDeleteWhat do you say of T-Bag from Prison break?
ReplyDeleteMerlin.... Morgana was the villain that we love to hate, and hate to love... She was awesome.... I think that although she was badass you couldn't hate her.....
ReplyDelete(Aghhh bring Merlin back!!!! )
The Mentalist ..Red John
ReplyDeleteRumple and Regina are the best!
ReplyDeleteBuffy! Glory was the best villain ever!!
ReplyDeleteOnce Upon a Time... Regina, Cora, Gold, Hook and even Maleficent.
ReplyDeleteBuffy, Glory and Angelus were my favourite villains... Second place goes to Doctor Who.
ReplyDeleteOther: Game of Thrones. I think of Littlefinger, Tywin Lannister, Cercei, Jaime,... I like when the bad people are not the 'Muhahaha I'm Evil' type, but instead people who do bad things -in the point of view of other characters- because they have their reasons to do so.
ReplyDeleteIt's a tricky question because what is a best villain : the most villainous (the one who's the more twisty, evil and badass) or the most subtle (the one you root for, that you can truly understand) ? I love a complex, gray 'bad guy', but I also love an evil one. All in all, I'm going to say :
ReplyDelete- 24's Ira Gaines, Andre & Victor Drazen, Nina Myers, Sherry Palmer, Stephen Saunders, Charles Logan, Christopher Henderson, etc. 24 had a great collection of bad guy throughout the days.
- Breaking Bad's Gus Fring (but Walter is also kind of a villain himself).
- Lost's Benjamin Linus.
- Sleeper Cell's Farik.
- Buffy's Spike.
- Alias' Arvin Sloan.
- Homeland's Nicholas Brody.
- Damages' Arthur Frobisher (but Patty is also kind of a villain herself).
- Dexter's Arthur 'Trinity' Mitchell (but Dexter is also kind of a villain himself).
- The Wire's Stringer Bell & Marlo Stanfield (among others).
- The Shield's Kavanaugh (but Vic is also kind of a villain himself).
I would name one of the bad guys of Sons of Anarchy season 5 alongside them all, but I don't want to spoil anyone. This show, btw, is another example of why you can't have a great villain unless you have gray anti-heroes. The thiner the limit between good and evil, the better the villains.
Best villain for me was Chris Heyerdahl as Alastair on Supernatural, he was creepy evil and gone way to soon.
ReplyDeleteGotta go Chuck - what defines a villan is different for different people though. I chose Chuck because the Villans were constantly entertaining yet awesome baddies - a perfect combination to me personally.
ReplyDeleteLost's Benjamin Linus is an example of how a great character doesn't have to be a complete villan, but can still technically fall in those ranks.
Lost: Ethan, Ben, Keamy, Widmore, MIB... They made them all so "human".
ReplyDeleteDexter: where to start? Brian, Lila, Miguel, Trinity, Jordan, Isaak... All great, well-developed characters.
Fringe: David Jones, Newton, Walternate, Fauxlivia, Windmark. Most of them were pretty good threats, and all SO well cast! The actors really made their characters.
Person of Interest: Root, Elias, Kara, HR... and then the ones that aren't bad people but still a threat for the main characters like Donnelly. The show always ties the villains to the story in such a great way.
I would like to name some from Game Of Thrones, but they are pretty much all villains so I wouldn't know how. :p
Breaking Bad would be top of my list if its villains were more obviously villains XD
ReplyDeleteGus Fring, Mike Ehrmantraut, the Salamenca Cartel (Tuco, Tio, and the "brothers") were are so brilliant!
Honestly though our best villain may be the series protagonist Walter White... or his later ego Heisenberg! XD
I have to go with OUAT or Person of Interest. OUAT villains are fleshed out people and we can understand what led to their actions, without excusing them. Person of Interest also gives their recurring villains a depth that other shows don't because they bring the villains back and make them seem like real people, they do pure evil, but they are still human and complicated.
ReplyDeletePerson Of Interest...!
ReplyDeletethat show had a total of 0 villains.
ReplyDeleteBreaking Bad - Gus Fring! What an epic villain...
ReplyDeleteI couldn't agree more... it has the Best List of villains (Root, Elias, Kara, HR etc)
ReplyDeletethis is a very tricky question because there is not a clear definition of what a villain is. For instance, with the exception of Martin Keamy, Lost had a total of zero villains in the sense that all of them had some sort of humanity and motivation behind what they were doing as wrong as it was. It presented flawed characters that made the wrong choices. That does not qualify as villain for me most of the times. If you are talking about pure hate of a character because he is simply evil, that is different.
ReplyDeleteSupernatural has had and still has the best villains. The big ones have been Azazel, Lilith, Alistair, Ruby, Lucifer (who can beat Lucifer), Crowley, Zechariah, Castiel (for 6 and beginning of 7), Dick Roman and the Leviathans, and Naomi seems to be a problem for 8. Don't forget the monsters of the week. No one surpasses this. Seriously.
ReplyDeleteLost + Fringe + POI (but POI still needs some time to improve a bit)
ReplyDeleteOther: American Horror Story: Asylum. I love Person of Interest's villains, but AHS has the badass and evil villains ever!
ReplyDeleteOnce Upon a Time. You (at least, I do) actually want the two main villains to be happy. The other two newer, current ones, I'm not so sure about wanting them happy. But they're good at being who they are.
ReplyDeleteTVD doesn't have villains it has "bad boys"
ReplyDeleteIt's Revenge!
ReplyDeleteAlias. Sloane, the Derevkos, Sark, Kelly Peyton... everyone's allegiances were shifting so every villain was an ally at one point. Also, Sloane's ending was one of the greatest of all time.
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion Trinity does not beat out Rudy on Dexter.
ReplyDeleteAlso, it's hard to call Kavanaugh a villain when you consider he was trying to nail a dirty cop who's crimes included being a drug lord and murder. He may have broke the law and lost his mind, but no where near the extent that Mackey did.
Even the "bad boys" name is debatable considering all the tears and tries to make them "conflicted(!)" via bad writing
ReplyDeleteThe Vampire Diaries Klaus is the best villain
ReplyDeleteThe Mentalist
ReplyDeleteSons of Anarchy
Buffy
The X-Files
SPN sometimes wins polls it doesn't deserve, but when you think of Yellow Eyes, Lucifer, Crowley, Gordon Walker, Alistair, Lilith, Zachariah et al, but mostly the amazing, brilliant actors who chewed the scenes out of their roles - then SPN wins by a long shot.
ReplyDelete24, Person Of Interest and Nikita
ReplyDeleteHmm, this one is tough. It's a tossup between Supernatural and Buffy. Its hard to forget either of their main villains (the early years for both) but they both had awesome standalone villains too.
ReplyDeleteOnce Upon A Time, Angel.
ReplyDeleteWhy did I not think of this? Yes! POI dominates in awesome villains!
ReplyDeleteSmallville! Common Lex Luthor people! Lionel Luthor, Zod, Brainiac, even darkseid and Doomsday get points! 2nd is Other: Stargate SG-1 great show loved Apophis, Anubis and Ba'al great villains especially Anubis! 3rd is Supernatural: Azazel, Lillith, Alastair, Lucifer, Crowley, Mother of All, and Dick Roman!
ReplyDeleteagrees thats 4th!
ReplyDeleteEasily Doctor Who, no other show comes close to characters like the Master, Daleks and Cybermen imo!
ReplyDeletesaid heroes (for the early sylar, and for linderman, and arthur even though his arc kinda sucked, but I also love the bad guys in revenge (who are most of the cast) realistic villains are so more evil.. Especially the grayson Couple
ReplyDeleteAlso, Trinity, Brian, and Jordan chase from Dexter are awesome villains.
Lionel Luthor too even though he also has messed up storylines
Men in Black were in this lol? Kidding man in black but his other name which i like better is Locke! Also smoke monster works for me or smokey. I dont go buy MIB ever. John Locke i considered a anti hero and Smokemonster being Locke made him bad ass! I kinda wish we had more Smokey Locke over real Locke.
ReplyDeleteCompletely agree with you! I don't think of anyone on Lost as being a villain in the same way as the Daleks or Crowley, for example.
ReplyDeleteI can't believe Sherlock isn't listed in the poll...
ReplyDeleteMaybe the person who submitted the poll does not watch the show.
ReplyDeleteAnd you can always vote "Other"
My favorite villain is Boyd Crowder. (Justified) I adore his character and his speeches.
ReplyDeleteA close second is Al Swearengen from Deadwood.
I had to go with season 1 of Prison Break. The villains in that show were as smart as the good guys. I loved watching the heros moving steady on their plan and being thwarted, not by happenstance, but because the opponents were smart, observant, and good at their jobs.
ReplyDeleteSPN, Buffy, Smallville and Prison Break had some really awesome villains but I went with SPN because well...Lucifer, Zachariah, Yellow Eyes, Meg, Ruby, Alastair, Lilith and so on,
ReplyDeleteMr. Yang of Psych!!! Aweosme villain there!!!
ReplyDeleteMoriarty - Sherlock
ReplyDeletei went with Lost because of Benjamin Linus he's a great villian he's my favourite character on Lost he's the character i love to hate but these are only the ones on the poll one that is missing is Dexter with Villian's like Brrian Moser, Arthur Mitchell, Issak Sirko, Miguel Prado and so on
ReplyDeleteThe X-Files! Cigarette Smoking Man and like everybody!!!
ReplyDeleteThis is tricky. First you have to define what you want out of a villain and then separate villain from the fight. I was going to vote Buffy--nice big bad structure, they always managed to continue to amp but the stakes and difficulty, creative and fantastic final fights (the group attack on Adam, the school against the mayor). However, the bads themselves were kinda so so: Adam was barely present until the end, the Mayor and his old-fashioned dad-ness, I mean Glory? the nerds? Come on. Angelus was probably the best at being psychologically bad, Caleb had some great moments. I like my big bads to be scary and in your head and dark and complex and have consequences. So I think I have to go with Supernatural. Alastair was scary. Crowley is complicated and smart. Lucifer, Death, Lilith. Dick Roman even had consequences and was lethal and cunning.
ReplyDeleteI guess Fringe isn't on the list since it ended two days ago? Because they sure get my vote. What a great mix of villains this show had. David Robert Jones in S1, Thomas Jerome Newton in S2, Walternate and AltBrandon in S3, Meana in S4 and especially Windmark in S5 take the cake for me.
ReplyDeleteBuffy <3
ReplyDeleteI don't know... it's a loaded question.... all have hits and misses if you ask me...
ReplyDeleteCriminal minds
ReplyDeleteBenjamin Linus was truely one of the best villains. He was my favorite character on Lost aswell.
ReplyDeleteGrimm! (I wouldn't vote for Sherlock, because there aren't that many villains in the show so far).
ReplyDeleteOther - Nikita. Villains don't get more ruthless, manipulative, cruel, twisted, ice-cold and badass than Percy and Amanda. Oh, and Roan was scary as hell. Even Ari was cool before he pretty much became Amanda's excess baggage
ReplyDeleteI think I like Regina and Rumplestiltskin a LOT more than all the other characters...
ReplyDeleteI think the best villiain is The Mentalist's Red John! He has gone 9 years without capture and the dead bodies still pile up!
ReplyDeleteI really enjoyed reading all the responses, glad this made people think.
ReplyDeleteWell, I must admit I haven't seen all the shows on your list, I have seen Supernatural, Buffy, White Collar and Chuck. Anything Buffy is too "meh" for me, and the White Collar villains don't stand out imho, but Supernatural and Chuck did have some interesting villains. My hat is off to Supernatural for getting a lot of amazing guest-stars, I guess they must really have the budget to afford them. As for Chuck, there was quite a big range of villains - from the exaggerated cartoon characters to multi-layered, sophisticated human beings, so I have to agree they were pretty awesome. :D
ReplyDeleteRevenge does have a myriad of villains, too, it's not just Victoria. Tyler last season was pretty obnoxious; the white-haired agent was pretty dangerous; Ashley has a fair share of skeletons in her closet; plus this season we're finding out more about the Initiative and Helen Crowley. I do find the Initiative (Revenge) to be very similar to The Ring (Chuck), and in a way now they've turned Aiden (Revenge) against Victoria and Emily the way the Ring (Chuck) turned Shaw against Sarah and Chuck.
As for the Good Wife, indeed the villains mostly create intrigue and scheme and are not often killers (but remember Sweeney? Blake was also pretty dangerous and sleazy). Michael J Fox and Matthew Perry also play the kind of characters you love to hate.
Yeah do you watch the Vampire Diaries hes like the Best Villain every he dose some very evil stuff starting in the 2nd season.
ReplyDeleteum Damon in the first season pearl the vampires from the tomb um Klaus.Katherine The Originals well most of them. That's most of them so what you mean they don't have villains.
ReplyDeleteI was being sarcastic seeing that the writers have completely ruined klaus's character by the turning him from an actual monstrous villain into a whiny bad boy like they do with all their villains
ReplyDeleteThe Walking Dead, Fringe, Doctor Who, Farscape, Alias and Enterprise.
ReplyDeleteAnother vote for POI
ReplyDeleteI did see Revenge, and I have to say I believe Victoria may be the best character on that show, she isn't in the same league as the villains in the shows listed above. Okay, maybe Buffy. And I do need to catch up on the Good Wife, but from what I saw they have decent villains for a law show.
ReplyDeleteHonestly, it was a toss up between Buffy and Vampire Diaires. I only picked Buffy because they have more clear "Big Bad" structure. But I'd be willing to put Klaus and Katherine up against any of them.
ReplyDeleteKlaus is a villain?
ReplyDeleteMy picks would be: 24, because you get to spend a whole season getting to know the villain before Jack Bauer obliterates them in the end; Once Upon a Time, because each character is so complex that you end up sympathizing and rooting for the villains; Criminal Minds, the villains on that show are crazy!
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