CJ and The ODI discuss the saddest and best TV death in our Weekly Topic/Debate. We talk about the return of the walking dead, fringe, Person of Interest and many more.
CJ and The ODI are back with their views on the latest TV news and episodes. We talk about the return of of The Walking Dead, Fringe and Person of Interest. We take another look at Revolution and some of the other shows currently on TV including a ratings round-up.
Weekly Topic: What is the saddest or best TV death?
Every TV show has a character we love or loathe that at some point meet their demise. CJ and The ODI once again argue and debate what ones have been the most emotional and shocking on TV. Some of the shows discussed this week include:
Angel, Buffy, Castle, Chuck, Dexter, Doctor Who, Fringe, Game of Thrones, LOST, Scrubs, Six Feet Under, Supernatural,The Walking Dead and more
We would love to hear your opinions on what deaths you would pick and why below in the comments or via Email or Twitter. We have also added a poll where you can share your views and we will discuss them next week.
(Times are approx.)
0.00 - Opening
0.01 – Intro / Site news and Ratings
0.12 – Fringe
0.26 – Person of Interest
0.36 – The Walking Dead
0.48 - TV Round-up (incl Revolution, Dexter and more)
1.01 - Debate/Argument: Best/Saddest TV death
1.19 - End
Angel, Buffy, Castle, Chuck, Dexter, Doctor Who, Fringe, Game of Thrones, LOST, Scrubs, Six Feet Under, Supernatural,The Walking Dead and more
We would love to hear your opinions on what deaths you would pick and why below in the comments or via Email or Twitter. We have also added a poll where you can share your views and we will discuss them next week.
(Times are approx.)
0.00 - Opening
0.01 – Intro / Site news and Ratings
0.12 – Fringe
0.26 – Person of Interest
0.36 – The Walking Dead
0.48 - TV Round-up (incl Revolution, Dexter and more)
1.01 - Debate/Argument: Best/Saddest TV death
1.19 - End
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I have to say one of the TV deaths I still haven't gotten over is Chris Halliwell on Charmed. I cried the first two times I saw that episode.
ReplyDelete"The Body" is amazing, and Anya's reaction to Joyce's death is what gets me. Lexie and Mark's death on GA were also sad.
Fred's death is depressing. I love "A Hole In The World". Another great death was Cordy. Still can't watch "You're Welcome" to this day. I just can't do it.
Wait...Fred DIES?! Cordy DIES? I'd better get back to watching Angel. But the saddest death to me is still Joyce Summers.
ReplyDeleteWhat about Buffy's death in The Gift? It really got to me, and along with the others you mentioned.
ReplyDeleteSam and Dean :'(
ReplyDeletejin and sun from lost
ReplyDeleteLet's see. 3 is the perfect number so I'd chose the following three scenes ;)
ReplyDeleteBuffy/Angel: well, dammit Joss! It's hard to choose because Joyce's death in The Body is still something almost unbearable, both Tara and Fred's death (in the arms of their lovers) were terrible and Anya was such an amazing character. But I'd choose Jenny Calendar's murder by Angelus in Passion. Just seeing the way Angelus disposed her body on the bed (and the whole scene: the rose at the door, the opera music), waiting for Giles, was terrible. Also, that was a major turning point for the series and that story-arc gives me serious goosebumps even today. I owe everything I love abou television to Buffy The Vampire Slayer and Joss Whedon.
Sons Of Anarchy: this is really new because it just happened. Opie's death was brutal, cruel and hurts me (and I guess the fandom as well) in an incredible way. I had to stop the video and I won't see that amazing episode very often. I'll never look a pipe in the same way again.
House M.D.: House's Head and Wilson's Heart are my two favourite episodes ever. Along with Laying Pipe, I don't see them a lot because Amber's absurd but peaceful death, Wilson's pain and House's willing to sacrifice everything to save his best friend's girlfriend lacerate me. Inside. Thanks to three unbelievable, splendid performances.
I can add Jimmy Darmody, Christopher Keller (OZ) and Kareem Said (OZ), Charlie (LOST), the entire cast of Six Feet Under and The Doctor (Doctor Who).
u should include reenne walker - 24
ReplyDeleteCharlie on LOST immediately came to mind, as did Joyce on Buffy. Every time I watch The Body I get chills, and the episode as a whole was brilliantly acted and directed. It hits you like a sucker punch to the gut. I feel the same pangs when Spike dies at the end of the series, as he sacrifices himself for the greater good, though it was slightly marred by his return on Angel... though I DID enjoy Angel more after Spike was resurrected.
ReplyDeleteI agree, Ellen and Joe's death was a very sad scene. I cried when I watched it, then I rewatched it [with my mom] and she cried as well
ReplyDeleteEllen and Joe [Supernatural] should really be a choice...
ReplyDeleteThere are so many sad death scenes in Scrubs... though I'm not really surprised they only posted one.
Agree and from supernatural, Bobby.
ReplyDeleteThere have been really terribly sad and shocking deaths in tv, but I have to say that there is one death that to this day I may not be able to re-watch ever again. I was physically upset and sickened by the death of Jesse's girlfriend in season 2 of Breaking Bad. It was just SO DIFFICULT to see...And what's more is that after that extremely tragic death it immediately (and directly) led to the deaths of dozens (maybe even hundreds, I can't remember that well) all in an airplane collision...
ReplyDeleteI mean really, I can't watch the last 2 episodes of season 2 of Breaking Bad to this day.
The saddest TV death has to be Ellen and Jo on Supernatural. I rarely get choked up about TV but that one stunned me. Beautifully written and shot, it is by far the most touching TV death I've ever seen. Many people die on Supernatural but there's was unforgettable.
ReplyDeleteJoyce's death on Buffy was a real shocker to me and beautifully done. So was Bobby's death in Death's Door, although it was marred by his coming back. Arturo's death in Sliders was the biggest misstep. The best "thank God they're dead" death is a tie between Zachariah and Ruby on SPN.
Captain Roy Montgomery's death on Castle...OMG I cried for hours... :'(
ReplyDelete*I've added Etta from Fringe... I also voted for Lexie - GA ... Both really dramatic and made me cry and feeling miserable.... Even though it's only TV but to me it means they sure reached me... ♥
ReplyDeleteHow about Michael Scofield from PRISON BREAK?
ReplyDeleteWas i the only one who wanted to die?
Ellen and Jo,Bobby and Sam(S2) are the saddest deaths for me.I rarely cry while watching TV but I was gone during all of these.
ReplyDeleteNed Stark's death wasn't really shocking for me,as I've read the books,but it was still really sad.Beautifully shot.
Juliet from LOST is the ultimate death...
ReplyDeleteWithout a doubt, Edgar from 24. He was just a nice computer geek minding his own business and they just had to kill him:(
ReplyDeleteAnd Edgar.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you on Jack Bristow from Alias !!! He was a hell of an actor !! Also i didn't saw Ned Stark's death coming because i haven't read the books and it was quite of surprise to me !!! Μηπως να συζητουσαμε στα Ελληνικα αλλα να μου πεις ξενο σαιτ ειναι εδω !!!
ReplyDeleteThere was no Otis on 24. Did you mean Edgar?
ReplyDeleteI've prob went down my list and put otis twice by accident. I did mean edgar thanks
ReplyDeleteI totally forgot about ellen and Jo. I was heartbroken that jo died
ReplyDeleteExactly it was was tue saddest One ever. I couldn't watch it at first und i'm still sad over it.
ReplyDeleteSix feet under.
ReplyDeleteSam season 2, the only time SPN has made me cry.
ReplyDeleteI vote for Mark Green's death on ER. I cry every single time I see it. I also find Angel's death( when buffy killed him) pretty sad...Rita from Dexter was sad as well. And Sybil on downton abbey(the most recent I have seen)>
ReplyDeleteWhat about Dr. Fraiser on Stargate SG-1?
ReplyDeleteOpie (Sons of Anarchy) was the first on my mind. It was so brutal, and so sad because Jax was watching and unable to help him.
ReplyDeleteCharlie and Locke on Lost ofcourse.
I have a throwback most of you may not have watched the show, but when this death occured every fan of this show was distraught hell im still hurt by it and it was years ago- The L Word Dana Fairbanks death from breast cancer OMG so freaking heart breaking...if you want to cry rent The L Word season 3
ReplyDeleteMy very Best Series Finale was Six Feet Under....only cause they closed everyone's death with us.....they told us when and how they all died...i was sad for years... :-(
ReplyDeleteI didn't cry when Sam died, per se, but I was sobbing buckets during Dean's heartbreaking soliloquy over his brother's corpse. That's probably the saddest moment of 8 seasons of SPN for me. Rarely does TV make me cry, but that moment destroyed me.
ReplyDeleteJenny Calendar and Anya. I agree. So sad.
ReplyDeleteYes! And Jesse's pain following that was palpable. The image of the lipstick-stained cigarette butt in the car ashtray stays in my mind.
ReplyDeleteno you're not! I was thinking about that too. And Sara's death too, even though she was resuscitated. No one ever remember PB.
ReplyDeleteAnd Etta...her death broke my heart.
Poor Giles crying in Buffy's arms :'(
ReplyDeleteAnd let us not forget sweet Amy on The Walking Dead, and her loving sister Andrea having to shoot her as she turned into a zombie.
ReplyDeleteRose on TVD...never thought that would ever cried so much(
ReplyDeleteAnd Paul Ballard on Dollhouse...
Totally agree, I still can't watch episode "you're welcome". Heartbreaking!
ReplyDeleteYou are right Etta is one of the saddest too. :)
ReplyDeleteYeah PB will always be in our heart.
When Sara "died" i was like you got to be kidding me. That is how i felt in previous week's Fringe ep
Roy Montgomery (Castle) and Joyce Summers (Buffy)
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion it was at least a few best tv death. First of all: Mark Green's death from ER. I cry every time when I watch it. It is beautiful and very sad episode. Then Cordy and Fred death scenes are so sad for me. Also from Buffy universe I would like to mention Joyce's death scene, it was so real, and Tara's death. Likewise Jin and Sun death is so sad and touching, Charlie, and Juliet too. E
ReplyDeleteven ABC didn't show death of Kevin's dad Jack from Wonder years I think it was either moving. I remember how shocked I was when I heard that. Prue from Charmed it was also so depressing for me, Lucy's death from ER either, or Dan's death from Roseanne, I didn't expect that they kill him , cos Roseanne suppose to be a comedy now drama!!!
Warrick Brown On CSI. Shocked and stunned
ReplyDeleteAgree! :)
ReplyDeleteAbandon All Hope. My god.
ReplyDeleteThis year Opie's death on Sons of Anarchy was just brutally painful and emotional. It captured the moment perfectly.
ReplyDeleteStaying on FX, I still can see Curtis Lemansky's (AKA Lem AKA Lemonhead) death on The Shield. It was such a painful and poignant moment that still reverberates whenever I see Kenny Johnson on TV. Poor Lem.
One that was both shocking and painful was Jimmy Darmody's death on Boardwalk Empire.
One that was less surprising perhaps, but incredible emotional to see on screen was Ned Stark's death in Baelor (episode 2x09) of Game of Thrones. The way he was still trying to protect his family as he was en route to the executioner's block was more than touching and the writers truly captured the spirit of the character from the book!
The two that most affected me were Lem's death and Ned's death. One I expected and dreaded seeing on screen and the other I did not see coming, but both left emotional marks on me. Something very rarely done by a TV show.
The way that Opie death scene was filmed was brilliant.
ReplyDeleteThe way they had Jax (Tig and Chibs too) watching pulled the viewer in and made us feel like we were watching from their position too. Helpless to do anything but watch.... and remember to use it as fuel for the revenge to come.
Angel's death on season 2 of Buffy was the first time TV made me cry. I don't cry often but that one was hard to take. Becoming 2 was such an excellent episode. It's still my favorite episode of any TV show that I have ever watched, probably because I was so invested in the characters and the show when I first watched it.
ReplyDeleteI've never seen most of those shows (I have seen some Buffy and Angel rerun episodes- I was young when they aired. Out of the shows I have watched since I was 12, Ellen and Jo's deaths on Supernatural was the saddest. It made me cry the most. The way the scene went down tore my heart.
ReplyDeleteYeah, Chris's death was really sad. :( I cried the first 2 times I watched that scene too. I think I was only 12 at the time, and I'd only gotten really into Charmed that year and he was my favorite character...so yeah. He was the reason Charmed became my first favorite show ever until the show ended and I began watching Supernatural. (I was so happy to see Chris and Wyatt come from future in the very last episode of Charmed :D )
ReplyDeleteAnother sad one with Rose. :(
ReplyDeleteLOL, are you me? I was twelve or thirteen, too, and Chris was my favorite character and the reason I started watching the show regularly. And the series finale is one of my favorite episodes for that reason!
ReplyDeleteBeing that I spent the most time with the Lost characters
ReplyDelete(by a long shot) than any other show's characters, those are the characters I
feel closest to (by a long shot). It comes down to Charlie Pace and Juliet
Burke for me. I watched The Incident with three close friends. The entire
episode we were making observations, cracking jokes -- the mood was
light-hearted. And then Phil died.
We stood up and cheered, even embracing one another. I was
elated, head turned from the screen showing my excitement to a friend. Then I
saw his face darken. He sat down. I followed his eyes to the screen and saw
Juliet entangled in chains. All of us sat on the edge of our seats unable to
speak, our mouths held open and our eyes fixed on Sawyer struggling to save
Juliet. The feeling in the room was unreal. It felt like we were losing a best
friend. After the scene ended and commercials kicked in, we all didn't move or
speak for a minute.
That gut-wrenching feeling returned when we watched LA X and
had to watch Juliet die AGAIN! Funny
thing is, none of us even particularly cared for Juliet until we lost her. It
was unbelievable how a fictional death could make me feel so sad. I thought
about it constantly for weeks.
I know, it was the way it was done, so brutal and Jax watching, that makes it a death I´ll never forget. And it has a bigger impact on the characters than on most other shows.
ReplyDeleteI´m rewatching season 1. Boy, did Jax change a lot!!! He actually smiles in season 1. I love the way they very slowly made him (and a lot of the others too) harder. This show is so brilliant.
I can see you mentioned Ned Starks death above. It was a great and sad death as well, but expected, so I´m not sure that I´ll remember it years from now. I´m sure GoT will have other deaths in the next two seasons, that we will remember forever though. :-)
Yep, Jax used to be cocky and carefree! XD
ReplyDeleteHardly how I would describe him now.... He has changed a lot in his downward spiral to the leadership position.
Yeah, Ned's death was expected for sure, but the "Baelor!" plea to Yoren that was not in the books got to me! XD
Ianto from Torchwood! I still can't get over it.
ReplyDeleteIt technically wasn't her death, but the very end of Lost season 5 when Juliet was dragged down into the hatch was the saddest thing I have ever seen. I was weeping uncontrollably, and I really don't often cry at TV or movies...even thinking about it now (sniff)...
ReplyDeleteAlso, Jane on Breaking Bad, and really most of the deaths on Lost - Boone, Shannon, Ana Lucia, Libby, Charlie, Jin/Sun, Locke, Jack...
;-; Bobbbbyyyy... (Must. not. cry). I think I cried the first 15 time I saw this episode, it was sssoooo devastating
ReplyDeleteFor me it is Sam's death in All Hell Breaks Loose part 1-2 because of Jensen Ackles' acting as Dean.
ReplyDeleteThe scene of Dean holding Sam's body, telling him it's not that bad. Then the scene of Dean talking to Sam's dead body, culminating in Dean selling his soul to the crossroad's demon - it still gives me chills and makes me cry everytime I see it. It's also the turning point of pretty much everything that happens afterward. I think it's the most moving, iconic moment in the whole series.
From my viewpoint, Lexie's death is one of the saddest in a TV show. She was an important and intresting character in grey's, and she knew this was the end, she couldn't fight anymore, she was trapped. And it was even more hard with Mark by her side. There were so many emotions. I can tell it was an emotional saddest moment because I cried, very much. And this means that Shonda did an amazing horrible job.
ReplyDeleteWhen it comes to Charmed we seem to have a very similar history.
ReplyDeleteHa, all this talk about Charmed, I just bought season 6 online today to see Chris again. Watched quite a bit of episodes and it was great.
Season six is the only season of Charmed I own (Nearly bought season eight, but it wasn't worth it because the only episodes I love are Vaya Con Leos, Kill Billie Vol 2, and Forever Charmed) and that's because of Chris.
ReplyDeleteI'm having Leo feels relating to Chris' death again. They pop up every few months.
ITA. This is the only death scene in recent memory that actually brought tears to my eyes. The emotional intensity between Sawyer and Juliet was so real. For those few moments you truly believed that those two desperately loved each other. A heartbreaking scene at the end of one season and yet somehow they managed to do it again at the beginning of the next season.
ReplyDeleteWatched again Killer Within (The Walking Dead/3x04). I guess we can add this one to the list. Can't even.
ReplyDeleteRita from Dexter
ReplyDeleteI am getting Season 5 and 6 in the mail tomorrow. Eventually plan to get all seasons. Chris was who got me to watch the show regularly, but I do like the other characters as well. Before Chris, Piper and Leo were my favorite characters on the show. Before Chris I only watched the show occasionally with my parents though.
ReplyDeleteAfter watching Season 6, when repeats came on TNT I watched all the episodes. I like watching all the seasons, but yeah, Season 6 by far the best because of Chris.
I loved Leo and Chris's interactions. I loved how Leo was the one who introduced Chris to doing thinking on the Golden Gate Bridge. When I was 12 I thought that was really cool. I'm scared of heights, but if I had orbing power, I'd so go sit on the bridge.
Haha I watched the episode yesterday where Chris goes to talk to Leo on the bridge and Leo says he can't be seen but Chris can so to everyone else it looks like he's talking to himself. XD
Chris made me laugh a lot too when he was on the show. He was very good at being serious but funny at the same time- mostly because he could be dramatic sometimes. lol
There wasn't enough episodes where he and Leo got along though, I mean after Chris realized Leo wasn't like his future self when Leo busted him out of jail. They only had about 3 or 4 episodes before he died where they really got to bond. (They did have some great scenes even before Leo knew he was Chris's father, like the bridge scene where Leo says he trusts him after he saved Wyatt from demons trying to turn him evil).
I was just grateful and glad to see that the writers didn't drop Leo's grief in Season 7. I don't remember a lot as I haven't seen anything except Season 6 and the last 2 episodes of Season 5 when Chris shows up, for a long time, but when I buy Season 7 I'll watch it again.
Also - I liked seeing Piper overprotective of baby Chris. :)
In Season 6, I liked the episode "Hyde School Reunion" where she finds out in his future she dies. When Chris said that to his grandfather it was so sad. :(
Loved when he called Piper, Ma. I found myself calling my mom "ma" too afterwards. I sometimes still do and don't even realize it until afterwards. Mom often jokes when I say that either repeating "ma" or saying "ma and pa". XD It took her time to get used to the new habit I'd picked up. lol She doesn't know where I got it from.
Love these vids on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASSdC9Ds6V0&feature=BFa&list=PLE73F7E7DF4D81F7D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpDNj9iWiPw&list=PLE73F7E7DF4D81F7D&index=23&feature=plpp_video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bTXlrU-HYg&feature=BFa&list=PLE73F7E7DF4D81F7D
I was glad new future Chris in series finale seemed to have retained old Chris's memories or at least some of them. I'm glad he didn't have to go through what his alternative self did (Ow, time travel headache is coming on) but at the same time I still mourn the first version of himself.