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POLL : What did you think of Homeland - State of Independence?

15 Oct 2012

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17 comments:

  1. Abhiroop Saluja15 October 2012 at 05:54

    OMG!

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  2. ShatteredOne15 October 2012 at 07:31

    After they built up this episode I was kind of let down, just ok for me.

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  3. laura334115 October 2012 at 13:56

    Holy crap what an episode! Brody's days are now numbered,and finally Carrie gets vindicated.

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  4. actionjunkie15 October 2012 at 13:56

    very slightly letdown here but still an AWESOME episode

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  5. Lou15 October 2012 at 18:57

    It was fantastic seeing Carrie realise she was right, so happy she knows and can hopefully stop doubting herself so much.


    Great episode for Jess, she really stood up and showed what she is capable of.

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  6. LuckoX1015 October 2012 at 19:27

    Almost the whole episode was kind of boring; almost no sight of Brody's kids. The ending fixed it all though.

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  7. Lemonworld15 October 2012 at 20:17

    I can't believe how fast and early these writers are getting out the big guns. It's awesome! Morena Baccarin was amazing in the speech scene, and hah at Mike getting out of the car after he heard about Brody's sidestep.

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  8. Bruce_F17 October 2012 at 00:52

    It was an okay episode
    - There was a lot of build-up for this episode and relatively little payoff. That is especially true of Baccarin's performance which was billed by more than a few as award-winning, where as I thought it was simply good.
    - It was frustrating that Brody's video didn't come to light until the very end of the episode.
    - Enough with the Jess / Mike stuff already.
    - I had a hard time believing that Jess heard as little as she did over the phone while Brody was silencing and then killing the tailor.
    - My reaction to Carrie's attempted suicide was one of frustration. I believe my exact words were "You've got to be f*cking kidding me!" The last thing I want is for Homeland to start sensationalizing Carrie's condition.

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  9. DarqueMode17 October 2012 at 00:55

    First off this episode had some great performances from Danes and Lewis...
    However this was probably the worst episode of Homeland to date.


    It felt overly contrived to me, especially on Brody's side of things. It was a perfect storm of mishaps and inconveniences that just felt like too much when taken altogether.


    I was not a big fan of Carrie's suicide attempt. Last season she was shown as a woman with mental issues that did spin out of control at times, but she was never suicidal. It felt like it was there just to heighten the drama of the later scene with her finally learning she has been right about Brody for 2 years. It felt forced to me.


    I guess this felt like a very over-the-top episode for me, sensationalized as Bruce_F wrote. It did not feel as organic as the previous episodes. The brilliance of Homeland last year was that it felt real and that realism pulled you in and heightened the drama. This episode was the opposite for me. Almost every scene felt contrived and forced and just did not have a natural flow to me.


    I'm kind of surprised writing this since even when I disliked the finale last year, I could respect how well it was done for the most part. This episode left me wanting....


    The strong performances of the cast kept this at "OK", but just barely.

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  10. DarqueMode17 October 2012 at 00:55

    Carrie's suicide attempt angered me too. It was such a blatant set up only there to make her realization at the end of the episode more dramatic.... However I think after everything she has gone through it was unneeded She still would have cried and felt relieved without some earlier attempt....

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  11. DarqueMode17 October 2012 at 00:55

    I laughed too!
    He gets out all sly and offers to come in for just one drink. Ha! XD

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  12. gb35692117 October 2012 at 00:56

    Great to see the tension build up. Also terrific performance by Morena Baccarin.

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  13. tsavonglah0817 October 2012 at 01:02

    nawww, Brody's days won't be numbered that quickly. lol

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  14. Bruce_F17 October 2012 at 01:03

    I definitely agree. This was the first Homeland episode where I felt that the entire episode and its various plots were contrived and unbelievable rather than a tangible, natural progression of the show's storylines. It seems the only things Homeland did right in this episode were the Estes/Carrie scene and Jess' speech at the fundraiser.

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  15. laura334117 October 2012 at 01:04

    Nope not THAT quickly,ha! Darque and i were talking about Brody last week wondering if he would make it to see S3? I didn't expect them to find out about Brody this early on in the season,so he might get busted soon.

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  16. David Galli17 October 2012 at 04:23

    "I was not a big fan of Carrie's suicide attempt. Last season she was shown as a woman with mental issues that did spin out of control at times, but she was never suicidal. It felt like it was there just to heighten the drama of the later scene with her finally learning she has been right about Brody for 2 years. It felt forced to me."

    you'd be surprised of what ppl in that state of mind (rejection, distrust) is capable of doing. you cannot see it as real not because it is contrived.. it is just that you haven't experienced yourself living with a person in her condition. this escalation on Carrie's behaviour is exactly why she cannot deal properly with her social buddys (friends, lovers, family) and the bad outcomes of her relationships with them. It is a lot painful. A part of her suicidal behaviour is shown when she gets her sexual attracts heightened (means a way to be accepted when everything else failed) and goes out. When she is in distress, to evade that feeling, it is a manner - in a destructive way (because it leads to a frustrated situation or to remorse)- to escape reality. Another is to kill yourself.

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  17. DarqueMode17 October 2012 at 08:17

    Every person and case is different, so you're right.
    New medication regimes, new routines, new stressors all could contribute to having suicidal thoughts even if never showing signs before.

    My point was not that it was out of character for a bipolar person to be suicidal (the suicide rate is something like 15 times higher in bipolar people)....My point was more that the scene was added just to show her at her lowest and then have her at her highest moments later. IF they wanted to deal with the depression and suicidal impulses it could have been very interesting, but to just toss it in and glance over it like they did felt forced to me. I mean not every clinically depressed or bipolar person is suicidal....Had there been other attempts earlier in the series or mentions of past attempts it would have felt more within her character to me, but I still would have been annoyed by how it was only there to heighten the drama of the later scene.
    I'm hardly an expert and did not mean to give that impression, but I do have some familiarity with the topic... 2 family members working in the field of psychology/psychiatry, one good friend who is a psych nurse, and like many I have have had multiple close friends who were/are severely depressed, attempted suicide or commuted suicide sadly in one case.

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