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Supernatural - Ultimate Episode Round 3B - Polls

13 Sept 2012

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In polls that were closer than I thought they would be, Death's Door and Bad Day at Black Rock advanced to round four while we said goodbye to the western Frontierland and another finale, No Rest for the Wicked. Things are definitely heating up! While many will probably find today's polls very easy, for me today and tomorrow are the hardest of this round. Heart's going to hurt either way on these days but at least I'll know what I'm voting for in round 4. On the quote hunt, we are up to On the Head of a Pin. Easily the hardest episode to transcribe due to Alastair's raspy lisp, it does have great dialogue. Don't forget to nominate your 2 favorite. Happy voting!

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65 comments:

  1. I vote for Mystery Spot and Devil's Trap. I like both of these episodes so much more than Swan Song and Abandon All Hope. Unfortunately the poll won't let me vote this way, which means I'm sunk. Mystery Spot and Devil's Trap are two of my all-time favorite episodes. Normally I would wait until the poll almost closes and vote for the one losing. However, that plan came back to haunt me last time. So this time I'm praying for a tie and using the poll itself as a motivator. If I finish Lucifer Rising quotes in time, I'll reward myself by watching both episodes and vote then. My other vote goes to Abandon All Hope, which is going to lose big time. I liked Swan Song a lot more than I ever thought I would given that it is essentially a no-action, all-angst, ploddingly paced, poorly ended finale with huge gaps I forget the second I move on to another episode and of all things, voiceovers. Generally I say "voice over" in the same tone as "love triangle". Still for all that, it was well-written, made the Impala even more of a character, and had some touching brother moments. The parts I remember I liked a whole lot the first time. Not so much on the rewatch where it tends to get boring in the middle for me. Whereas Abandon All Hope has an equally memorable and angsty yet well-written scene and equally poor ending, but it combines that with humor and action that's very entertaining even in rewatch. Abandon All Hope without a doubt for me, but I still wish I could vote for Mystery Spot AND Devil's Trap.

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  2. Gosh, the first poll was difficult. I love both the episodes so much! Ultimately I went with Mystery Spot, for it's genuis script, excellent production, and heart-wrenching twist near the end. Good, good stuff. Devil's Trap really surprised me when I saw it, and I remember gasping out loud when the Impala was T-boned. I really didn't see how that car would ever be salvaged and I was gutted! But - it's just slightly below Mystery Spot in my favorites list, and I gotta be true to what I love (or love just a bit more).


    Second poll was less difficult. I'm not a big fan of Abandon All Hope, but I do love Swan Song. It's so cheesy and melodramatic and dramatic and emotional and Sam...and Dean...ugh. I voted Swan Song.

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  3. Anybody got the new promo yet?

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  4. I agree, I'd rather both Mystery Spot and Devil's Trap made it through. I like the other two episodes well enough, but nowhere near as much as these!

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  5. Only one difficult choice for me today.
    While devils trap is brilliant, mystery spot is easily my favorite episode of them all so that was no contest. (see previous rants about my lI've for the trickster)
    The second poll was slightly more difficult. I really love both of them. Swan song was the season finale. It had Sam as lucifer played very well by Jared and the car and the montage of all the awesome brotherly moments and "hey assbutt!" and that cliffhanger with Sam watching dean and Lisa.
    But then abandon all hope had Ellen and Jo and there incredible but extremely heart wrenching death. And hell hounds and Crowley (was this his first episode?) and the colt and the surprise of it failing and lucifer raising death. And heaps of tense action.
    Both episodes are great but I voted abandon all hope. Even the episode title just put a real feel to this episode that I think Swan song could have had but didn't quite get. AAH had my crying and cheering and gasping and it was just awesome. My vote went to abandon all hope

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  6. Swan Song -- culmination of the 5 season arc pushed it ahead of Abandon All Hope. The BEST Entrance EVER (Dean driving into the cemetery) and I loved the significance they gave to the Impala.


    I have to come back to deal with the first poll....I cannot decide. I don't know why, but I feel the need to blame Dahne for all these difficult decisions I'm being forced to make. :-D

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  7. Swan Song. BEST EPISODE EVER.


    Also voted for Devil's Trap. Could have voted for Mystery Spot.

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  8. Devil's Trap, I have watched this ep so many times and the end is still a shock to me. Mystery Spot was fun, but I loved Papa John(am I the only one) so have to go with DT.


    Ha, Swan Song has my vote, I have cried with the guys so many times, but this one had me sobbing. Sam as Lucifer beating Dean, with Dean saying It's OK I'm not going to leave you, Baby putting her power into the mix and I am sobbing big time. Loved Bobby and Castiel in this also.


    Any other time I would be voting for Abandon All Hope..dang these polls. lol

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  9. Mystery spot is a masterpiece and the last great Sam-centric episode we've had, so I'm hoping it goes all the way. Too bad for DT which is one of the best finales.

    My other vote goes to Swan Song. AAH is just too depressing and I can't get over the ridiculous come-back of the Colt. I've watched this episode only a couple of times, same goes for the first half of season five. What a mess.

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  10. I too loved John, but overall I think Mystery Spot is just a little bit better of an episode. I'll be happy if Devil's Trap wins, though. :)

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  11. Well, while I voted for AAH in the earlier round, I just couldn't do it this time around. But it did give us one of the best images from Supernatural EVER! I get the sniffles a little every single time I see it. So for that I will always be thankful. But, you know how I feel about Swan Song (minus the last minute edit and the whole Chuck debate). No way I will ever vote against it, EVER! But I will give you this: It doesn't hold its value after about 30 re-watches. At that point I started to get really nit picky over a lot of things but using Baby as the frame for the story, how can I get upset with that? Schmaltzy, maybe but the brotherly moments are what I really hold on to the most from that episode. Something that has been lacking for sure (geez, what is with me and all these understatements lately?).

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  12. I'd say that When the Levee Breaks was very Sam-centric.

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  13. 1. Mystery Spot- but I love both and don't care which one wins.


    2. Another case of favorites. I voted Abandon All Hope but either win I'm happy. AAH I mostly liked because of the last night on Earth scenes, the sad deaths, and Lucifer catching Castiel in the ring of fire. Swan Song I liked for the brother stuff. I actually think I like AAH more, but I'm sure it is not going to win against Swan Song.

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  14. I love John too, don't care which episode wins though.

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  15. I did say "great Sam-centric". ;)
    When the Levee Breaks was terrible from start to finish.

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  16. Well I almost said I would ALWAYS vote for Swan Song, but then I think maybe they will come up with something that will knock it down for me. The 30 or more re-watches have not diminished it at all for me. It is the worse beating I have ever seen on TV and have a hard time watching it, but it gets to me EVERY TIME. The only fault I have is Sam watching Dean.

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  17. Ah, I see. It certainly isn't one of my favorite episodes but you may be the first to agree with me on that, especially of people who prefer Sam. I'm having a hard time grading the episode because on a gut level it's a 5 for me. On a well-written, well-directed, important part of the storyline level I'd give it a 2-. Have to decide if I'm grading strictly on how I feel about an episode or if I bump it up because it is an important piece of mytharc.

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  18. Hey don't be mad at me. :-P I'm just as frustrated as you are in some of these brackets. I blame the nominating polls. Obviously some people knew the exact right combination of votes to make these poll rankings the most frustrating possible. Mathematical, diabolical geniuses they are.

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  19. We have to find some way to make it a tie so that they can both move on. Of course then they would both be competing with Swan Song in the next round.

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  20. This was alot easier.
    Mystery Spot, it had me almost crying(or perhaps I did cry) then laughing, then crying again.
    And of course, Swam Song for the other one, I loved that season finale, and I loved that episode. I loved the talking, no matter if other people say it made the episode slow. I love the angst, Castiel and Bobby finally giving up, I totally cried when Sam/Lucifer was beating up Dean and when the memories flooded in, Chuck narrating everything? Gold! The Sam appearing(and Chuck disppearing) Loved it.

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  21. My list is on how I feel and how many times I have watched it and still enjoy.

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  22. The best part for me is the love poem to Baby that the whole episode really is. And of course Carry On Wayward Son for the montage.


    As for the NO WAY EVER part of your statement, what happens when in a future poll it is Swan Song versus Houses of the Holy? Or worse, what if season 8 holds an exceptionally stellar episode that the entire fandom loves so much they cannot nitpick at all and everyone is in one big shiny agreement that it is the best episode ever to grace TV in the history of forever? Yeah I know. If it ever happens that is the real sign of the Apocalypse. Either that or I'm drinking the djinn juice.

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  23. well for me, even against Swan Song I would vote Mystery Spot or Devil's Trap! They are both in my Top 10...and Swan Song is *just* in my Top 15. hehehehe...


    I wonder if we could figure out a way to create a tie...

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  24. I remember that whole summer being worried about Metallicar. Not any of the Winchesters because I just knew they would be fine (great job of being Kripked with John's death - took guts and I loved it). The Impala was not a given. I remember having long, drawn-out conversations about how the show would not be the same without her. Some people who had mechanics in their lives were explaining the finer points of whether or not she could be saved. There was fan art, fan fic, and even Save the Impala fan campaigns. The highlight was when in an interview right before season 2, Jensen teased that the fans were more concerned about the car than the characters. Apparently the WB had gotten a lot of mail concerning it.

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  25. I'd go with the gut level, otherwise you'll have to go into negative grades for some other episodes of seasons 4/5, because to me WtLB isn't the worst, unfortunately.

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  26. Seriously? Swan Song is beating Abandon All Hope? I get that SS was a finale, and it was good and all, but AAH was a ~perfect~ episode.

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  27. Agreed - When the Levee Breaks is not the worst episode by a long shot.

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  28. Swan Song is in the middle for me so I would still be stuck trying to choose between MS and DT.

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  29. I've rewatched all episodes an obscene amount of times (even ones i don't like much) except season 7 of course since it's so recent. Most of those I've only seen 5-6 times. I'm giving all episodes a 1-5 ranking as I rewatch for short takes. Then I plan during the winter hellatus to watch all the 1's together, then all the 2's and so on and rank them by that.

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  30. I have absolutely no doubt Swan Song is going to win this one no matter how I vote. Its first real test in this contest will come in the next round where I think it will falter. If it wins, I doubt it will be by much. However if it does win round 4, it will be in the final 4 because there is no way Death's Door or Bad Day at Black Rock can beat it either. I seriously doubt it makes it to the finals though and if it does, it won't win.

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  31. I love Swan Song, but I agree AAH is a slightly superior ep. It's one of the few episodes of SPN that made me cry actual tears.

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  32. oh my gosh, if I had been watching in real time in season 1 I would have been one of those writing letters daily to save the car!!! She is the third character (and her absence was a HUGE reason season 7 was so bland!)! I too, for the five or so minutes it took to change the DVD from Devil's Trap to In My Time of Dying, was never worried for the characters, just the car. THEN...Kripke killed John and I didn't know what to think anymore! ;) Something about cars (some of them), animals, and children in movies and TV...


    Sidenote: Sometimes I really lament not seeing the first five seasons "live" with fellow fans to talk and discuss, but then I look back at the unfortunate missteps and unfairly timed cliffhangers and I'm glad I didn't have to sit through the first five years of bitching about plot points and months of waiting and people throwing around theories or complaining, etc, etc. I've gotten my fair share of all of that starting with season 6. BUT - I really think watching the show in one big marathon changed the way I perceived certain episodes, and mytharcs overall. It's only now, after so many viewings I can't even remember anymore, that I can see some of the flaws of seasons 4-5; at one point season 4 was my favorite, too! anyhow...


    Funny, this is the first and only show that I am active online talking about, while it's still on the air. I somehow didn't know or seek out online stuff when I was obsessed over LOST, and now I'm sad about all the discussions I likely missed out on for that show, too!


    Sorry, that was a huge digression.

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  33. well...that's not helpful then!

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  34. I liked Swan's Song, but I loved Abandon All Hope. Ellen and Jo's deaths was one of the few times I actually cried. In the other contest, Mystery Spot, but Devil's Trap is also a classic. This is getting harder. :)

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  35. Shocked Devel's Trap doesn't have more. The season 1 finale deserves more love. boo

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  36. Completely agree. It was one of those episode that packed a punch from the opening scenes of Meg interrogation to the ending T-boning of Metallicar.

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  37. So much harder. Round four is going to be brutal. There are only a couple episodes remaining that I actively dislike and only a few more of ones I think are middling episodes. Once those are gone i'm stuck voting against episodes I love and that will suck out loud.

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  38. No doubts whatsover on the first poll. Mystery Spot gets my vote.

    I love everything about it, from Sam opening his eyest to Heat of The Moment, through all of poor Dean's deaths; gosh just think of all the pain he had to suffer each time he died, being bitten to death by a dog must have been horrible, at least the piano falling on him was quick; to Sam's begging for his brother's return, to the over-protectiveness in not wanting Dean to go down to the motel car park alone, to the last lingering glance at the bed in which he passed days and nights of torture.
    Just a wonderful episode.
    If Mr. Carver can give us a similar episode this year, I will take my hat off to him.
    I love Devil's Trap too, but it has had the bad luck to come up against MS.
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    I vote for AAH beacause I enjoyed the apocaliptic feel it gave me; also apart from the cute story of the Impala and the lovely images of Sam and Dean's past moments, I heartily disliked the ending of Swan Song.
    It was all wrong for me, Dean did so much to look out for and try to save his brother, but in the end he's all right with Sam throwing himself into the Cage for all eternity, It just doesn't convince me, but I can understand why a lot of people like it

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  39. Quotes:-
    "Alastair: Go directly to hell. Do not pass go, do not collect two hundred dollars."
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    "Dean: You guys don't walk enough. You're gonna get flabby. You
    know, I'm starting to think Junkless has a better sense of humor than
    you do.

    Castiel: Uriel's the funniest angel in the garrison. Ask anyone." LOL :)
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    For me this episode is a sort of companion piece to When The Levee Breaks, both superbly acted by the boys but so terribly angsty as to be nearly, for me, unwatchable.
    I hate it when the boys are so tortured and thrown into the depths of despair.

    However, hats off to Alastair, possibly one of the creepiest and intelligent enemies the brothers have faced.

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  40. I loved Devil's Trap, but the rest of the way, I am going to be voting against an ep that I love and it is going to be horrible.

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  41. No time for quotes right now but my favorite by far for On the Head of a Pin is - Alastair:
    "Something's caught in my throat.
    I think it's my throat."

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  42. I just watched this ep on TNT and that is also my favorite quote.

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  43. I get that some people didn't like the direction seasons 4 and 5 took - with the demon blood addiction and the split between Sam and Dean - and that the Sam/Dean fight at the end was very difficult to watch from an emotional point of view. But what I don't get is the criticism of the episode from a writing and production standpoint. We just finished a season in which there was almost no substance start to finish. There was so much in When the Levee Breaks.


    Through Sam's hallucinations we got to finally understand the warring thoughts in Sam's head that led him to where he was. The young Sam hallucination speaks to Sam's self-criticism and self-doubt. The Mary hallucination is his pride and his rationale for doing what he is doing. She also affirms that Sam recognizes that the the power is evil. The Dean hallucination tells us what Sam is really afraid of - that he really is a monster. We learn that the reason Sam's tendency to run wasn't embarrassment over his messed up family, but because he always sensed and feared he was a monster inside. Having Dean (the person he trusts most) call him a monster is the one that that Sam can't handle. And when Dean calls him a monster at the end of the episode, that is what sends him over the edge.


    And then with Dean, Dean's series-long conflict on whether he would actually kill Sam if Sam was turning into a monster (began when John told Dean he might have to kill Sam) is finally addressed. Dean hears contrary arguments from Bobby (voicing Dean's own doubts) on whether stopping Sam is right, but Dean draws the line - he will kill Sam rather than let Sam turn into a monster.


    Bobby for the first time steps up as more than just a family friend, but a father figure by telling Dean what Dean doesn't want to hear - that by pushing Sam away, Dean is repeating the mistakes of his father. And this and Death Door are probably the only two episodes where Bobby shows some real affection for Sam.


    This episode is the perfect example of showing rather than telling to deal with some very complex issues. I admit not the best at judging things like production work and pacing, to me the episode seemed to be very good quality. Again, I get the emotional negative responses, but not the critical ones. I think this is one of Sera Gamble's best episodes.

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  44. Perfect comment.

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  45. Funny part is, TNT showed this ep today and I just finished watching it...again. Now into Lucifer Rising.

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  46. ..EASY FOR ME ..MYSTERY.SPOT..SWAN SONG

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  47. I just rewatched it too. I'm home right now, and all this talk about it made me want to rewatch it. Another point is the contrast between Sam and Dean's relationship here and where they end up in Swan Song. In this one Sam is asking Dean to trust him and Dean says he can't. This pushes Sam to move closer toward becoming a monster and toward Lucifer. At the end of season 5, Dean finally learns to trust Sam, and Sam is able to pull from that the strength to defeat Lucifer. Of course all of that trust goes out the window in The Girl Next Door.

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  48. Mystery Spot is one of Supernatural's best without a doubt. When it's funny, it's hilarious, when it gets serious, it's heartbreaking and dark. It has one of the few Winchester hugs, some great one-liners and an awesome storyline. I love it from beginning to end, something I'm not able to say about many episodes.

    I chose Abandon All Hope, because I had to choose something. They're not bad episodes, it's just season 5. I really don't like season 5 that much.

    My poor, wonderful On the Head of a Pin. Ah well, it would have lost against Mystery Spot anyway.
    So, the quotes:
    #4 Dean: You know, psychic Pamela? You remember her. Cas,
    you remember her. You burned her eyes out. Remember that? Good
    times!
    #3 Alastair: Something caught in my throat...I think it's my throat.
    #2 Castiel: Uriel's the funniest angel in the garrison. Ask anyone.
    #1 Castiel: My superiors have begun to question my sympathies.

    Dean: Your sympathies?Castiel: I was getting to close to the humans in my charge:
    you. They feel I’ve begun to express emotions, doorways to doubt. This
    can impair my judgement.Dean: Well, tell Uriel, or whoever, you do not want me doing this. Trust me.Castiel: Want it, no. But I’ve been told we need it.Dean: You ask me to open that door and walk through it, you will not like what walks back out.Castiel: For what it’s worth, I would give anything not to have you do this.


    I adore this last conversation, cause it clearly shows how the friendship between the two was being born. I also love Cas from that period: still a tough soldier of heaven, yet expressing his first emotions, feeling his first doubts,learning to be more human. The "I would give anything not to have you do this" says it all for me. This is how their bond was born. Heartbreaking to think how far from there they've come till now.

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  49. Alastair is by far my favourite villain. This show definitely didn't get enough of him before they killed him off. Maybe Dean met him in Purgatory somehow? would be great to get some more of Alastair, even if only in flashbacks.

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  50. On the Head of a Pin Quotes: Better late than never I guess.


    15. Dean: "Pamela, you know psychic Pamela. You remember her. Cas, you remember her. You…you burned her eyes out. Remember that. Good times. Yeah and then she died saving one of your precious seals. So maybe you can stop pushing us around like chess pieces for 5 freaking minutes."14. Alastair: You think I'll see all your scary toys and spill my guts." Dean: "Oh you'll spill your guts one way or another."13. Dean: "You ask me to open that door and walk through it, you will not like who walks back out."12. Alastair: "Holy water? Come on. Grasshopper, you're going to have to get creative to impress me." Dean: "You know something Alastair. I could still dream. Even in hell and over and over and over, you know what I dreamt. I dreamt of this moment. Believe me I got a few ideas. Let's get started."11. Alastair: "Oh almost. Looks like God is on my side today."10. Cas: "Are you trying to convert me?"9. Alastair: " I'm sorry. This is a very um serious, very emotional situation for you. I shouldn't laugh but I mean are they serious? They sent you to torture me."8. Alastair: "Oh stupid pet tricks." 7. Uriel: "You haven't even met the man. There is no will. No wrath. No God." Anna: "Maybe or maybe not. But there's still me."6. Dean: "You guys don't walk enough. You're going to get flabby. Well you know I'm beginning to think Chuckles has a better sense of humor than you do." Cas: "Uriel's the funniest angel in the garrison. Ask anyone." 5. Cas: "You need to be more careful." Dean: "You need to learn how to manage a damn devil's trap."4. Uriel: "You're needed." Dean: "Needed. We just got back from needed."3. Sam: "Get in there and heal him. Miracle now." 2. Uriel: "I think I'll go seek revelation. We might have some further orders." Dean: "Well get some doughnuts while you're out." Uriel: "Well this one just won't quit will he. I think I'm starting to like you boy." 1. Alastair: "Something's caught in my throat. I think it's my throat."

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  51. I agree, Chris was perfect as Alastair and I would have loved lots more of him.

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  52. I think a lot of people on this site would say that LOST had the best discussions. I know you could find a conversation that went as shallow or deep as you wanted on any given day. So glad you jumped on board the Supernatural discussion train. It should become very interesting when season 8 starts. I agree that people see things differently when they watch a show "live" complete with hellatuses and fandom issues than if they watch in marathons. Sometimes I wish I hadn't found the online SPN fandom in the hellatus before season 2 but then again I would not have met some great friends through SPN online. Overall I'm glad to have spent 7 years devoted to Supernatural. It still astonishes me that 7 years and 30 minutes from this moment I had just finished watching the pilot. So much has happened since that time. It's been one hell of a ride and so worth it.

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  53. Swan Song and Abandon All Hope both had the big emotional moment that the episode is famous for. I can see how it is hard to choose between them because of that.

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  54. yes, I look forward to talking season 8! I only found this site during winter hellatus of season 7, so I have "catching up" to do. I desperately want to join the discussion on the spoiler articles, but I don't do spoilers so...I'll wait until there are episode entries to chat on! :)


    Yeah, some LOST fan discussion would have helped me so much! I had no one in my real life to talk about the show with and I HAD SO MANY THINGS TO SAY!!! :) Oh well.

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  55. In all honesty, I think I could live without the spoilers but I can't seem to live without the discussion of the spoilers so I'm in it for the long haul. most shows I do avoid spoilers for. Currently i am avoiding all spoilers for Fringe because I want to see that story unfold without preconceived notions but I have to admit it is getting harder and harder to avoid those conversations here.

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  56. yeah, it's hard to avoid SPN spoilers actually. They are everywhere! Most places I can avoid them as they are hidden behind links that I have to choose to click open (and the more posts I see the more tempted I get!), but other places, namely twitter and facebook, it's harder. Esp. facebook! No closed links and people post all kinds of pictures and articles without warning. :( Oh well. I may change my mind about spoilers once the season starts (I did that a few times last season), but I'd rather go into the premiere without expecting something based on an article or a promo shot. ya know? I don't want to listen the Sam girls and Dean girls yell at each other about which brother does or doesn't have a storyline, and I don't want to listen to Castiel fans go insane over how many episodes he might be in. lol. Whoa. Sorry. That turned a little ranty there at the end! See, it's just best if I stay away ;)

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  57. That is the worst part of hellatus spoiler conversations. I'm starting a new philosophy about it this year. Last year it ended up killing my excitement for the show and I won't let that happen again. Now I'm going with if you can't beat them, laugh about it and find other like-minded posters to chat with. No negativity online is going to ruin my pre-season 8 high. I'm determined to stay as excited as ever no matter what.

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  58. Good plan!!!! I stay away from all the vs. arguments too, but even seeing them saps my excitement so you have the right idea. Ignore them, and focus on the actual show excitement, and my excitement is THROUGH THE ROOF!

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  59. Ditto as above. :)

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  60. I agree completely. Alastair was terrific although good old Zachariah could have given him a run for his money on the angel side of things.
    When Sam killed him however, I wonder if that destroyed him completely and erased him from existence, or if demons killed in that way can end up in Purgatory at all.
    In any case it would be nice to see him again. :)
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    Yes, it would be great to see some old faces in purgatory even of monsters that the Winchesters had killed in the past, such as Gordon who did die as a vampire and so supposedly is in Purgatory etc.

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  61. I just take spoilers with a grain of salt, many times in promos The CW lies. They put things in the promos that never end up in the ep, so I read spoilers, but don't believe they are written in blood. lol

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  62. so true! Show promotion is all about building up anticipation, even if what they promise is never delivered. After seeing the Comic-Con videos from last year, I was so excited about season 7, and then it kind of went nowhere and fast. I am a little more hesitant now, but also excited because it's Jeremy Carver and Jensen and Jared are excited and...man! Is it October 3rd yet!!! :D

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  63. I agree this summer has been soooooo loooong, but hoping getting my DVD on Tuesday will make it seem a little faster.

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  64. Yes! I've been avoiding the gag reel and other stuff that's come out in the last day because I want to enjoy it on the DVD when I get it Tuesday, lol. So psyched for that!

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  65. I have been very good and not watched the gag reel either, and was glad Amazon dropped their price, that is always nice. lol

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