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POLL : What did you think of Awake - Turtles All the Way Down?

25 May 2012

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37 comments:

  1. Ricky Terry25 May 2012 at 04:02

    I'm not usually a fan of the whole "He was dreaming all along" ending, but in the case of this show since it was cancelled, I think it fits well. I had a feeling it was gonna be either that or he was really the dead one and not his wife/son. 

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  2. C P25 May 2012 at 04:10

    I wish they'd have made it a little more clear/the ending longer though. Otherwise, yeah, it was a better ending than what I've seen from most other shows that got cancelled. 

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  3. DarkUFO25 May 2012 at 04:11

    I wonder how they would have continued the story had their been a 2nd season

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  4. Ricky Terry25 May 2012 at 04:21

    What I took from this was that he woke up just before the crash happened. He has a second chance. 

    But for a fun theory: 

    In the event that the show got renewed, this would have been the dream within a dream within a dream. Next season he'd still have other things to figure out, and then the next season finale would be him either waking up on a respirator in a hospital and this whole thing would have been a comatose fever dream, or he would have died with a shot pulling away and a heart monitor flatlining, in the event that the hypothetical season 2 wasn't renewed. I can't see any further into the future thought. : -)  

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  5. DeCoder25 May 2012 at 04:24

    Fucking brilliant. I don't think the ending means he was dreaming all along.  I think he splintered into a third reality.  He was asking why does he have to obey the laws of reality and how he wished he had a time machine and then bam - he's back before the accident.  If you recall the serial killer said that they both see the world sideways. Perhaps seeing the world sideways means living outside the laws of physics. The second season would have been brilliant with Michael twisting the realities to hunt down the serial killer who is also twisting the rules. It reminds me a bit of Total Recall - did he go into a complete psychotic break or is it real. 

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  6. C P25 May 2012 at 04:28

    Yeah, I thought it would have been more satisfying for me if he woke up from coma and found out it was all a dream, that he was shot while chasing a bad guy, and his fears of never seeing his family again came out while he was in coma making an accident and the two split worlds in his head. And he had to put himself back together again in order to wake up. 

    So it's close to your idea.

    I did like the ending, but there was still that question why he dreamt that? There had to be a trigger...

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  7. C P25 May 2012 at 04:32

    Very possible if there was a second season, that was what it was going to be about. But in less the writers tell us in some interview what they planned for the ending I'll take the ending literally so I don't keep wondering for a long time. lol

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  8. Ricky Terry25 May 2012 at 04:35

    What if it was: 

    He was in a coma because he was really the one critically hurt in the accident, and not either of his loved ones. It would have been trippy if the final shot was him flatlining on a hospital bed having been in a coma for a month, and his wife and son having to make the tragic choice to pull the plug.

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  9. DeCoder25 May 2012 at 04:36

    Kyle Killen tweeted the ending would have been the same regardless of whether they were renewed.

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  10. Ricky Terry25 May 2012 at 04:37

    Wow that's a cool way to look at it too! A bit of a Fringe(y) element to it. me likey!

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  11. C P25 May 2012 at 04:37

    That would have worked too, but still too many open questions for me (like if the accident was an accident). No, I don't know why I watch TV. lol I hate when questions aren't completely answered. 

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  12. C P25 May 2012 at 04:39

    I'm still left confused. :I But good to know. 

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  13. V_s25 May 2012 at 04:49

    No, he has the ability to create and manipulate new dreams at will. The white reality was another reality of Michael's own creation. Notice that he didn't wake up into the white reality. He just walked into it through a doorway.

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  14. Michael Anthony Leber25 May 2012 at 04:50

    What the hell just happened?

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  15. DeCoder25 May 2012 at 04:51

    More like that Michael can dream anything he wants.  Dream within a dream within a dream - turtles all the way down. The question is are the dreams real or is he psychotic. Perhaps Michael's reality is a break from the cave as in Plato's allegory of the cave. 

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  16. V_s25 May 2012 at 04:54

    Honestly, I can only come to one of two conclusions after that finale: either the red reality is the real reality, or they're all dreams (including the white reality). The red reality could still be real* because the red reality didn't fall apart until Michael was on the verge of falling asleep. Just as his eyes closed to give way to sleep, that's when the guard came in and told Michael he had a visitor.

    So in all likelihood, Michael could have fallen asleep at that moment and dreamed his red-reality-meets-green-reality dream, and then decided to discard both the red/green-meeting reality as well as the green reality, giving birth to the white reality. Or all of that could be true with the addition that the red reality was also a dream.

    It doesn't lend itself to much of a solid conclusion for the plot of the series, but it fits the themes of the show a lot better, IMO.
    *Of course if the red reality is real, there would have to be some explanation for the hallucinations he had in that world, whether Michael was becoming schizophrenic or something more out there. Chances are it was also a dream, but there definitely seems to have been a departure from the red reality to the red/green-meeting reality. (Plus Killen has seemed to confirm that if the show got a Season 2, the red reality would have returned with Michael waking up in his prison cell whenever he finally woke up in that reality.)

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  17. V_s25 May 2012 at 04:56

    I feel like the ending just has Michael replacing the green reality with the white reality. If the show continued, I think we would have seen the red reality and the white reality continuing forward and no green reality until Michael decided that the green reality was of greater importance to him than the white reality.

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  18. Lilith Hellfire25 May 2012 at 05:04

    OK, I feel kind of how I felt when I finally finished Life On Mars (US Version) for the  first time, like the rug has been pulled from under me and I hit my head or something, it's all fuzzy and semi satisfying but not really. For a show with only 13 episodes (and one was total filler) I have a thousand questions (and that's low balling it) that need answers. 

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  19. C P25 May 2012 at 05:10

    Lalalala I'm going to go dream about an ending and pretend that's real instead of staying in this confused state....lol

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  20. C P25 May 2012 at 05:12

    I thought I had an idea of what happened, but now I'm just as lost as you. 

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  21. Avatar Roku25 May 2012 at 05:31

    He created a third reality when he decided he couldn't accept either red or green. Dr. Evans was wrong, you can change time in your dreams. Britten decided to go deeper into delusion and created a reality where his son and wife were both alive. 

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  22. Lou25 May 2012 at 06:13

    He was not dreaming all along I don't think that was it at all, definitely on board with the third reality, his brain could not cope with all the trauma so it fractured even more.  I look forward to some post episode interviews with the creator sure he will explain it all.

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  23. phnxgrl25 May 2012 at 06:14

    I had a feeling both worlds were dreams. This ending is proof of that. However, I believe those were prophetic dreams. Since now he knows there is a conspiracy after him so he will be on the look out for the ramming vehicle.

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  24. V_s25 May 2012 at 06:17

    Like I said in my earlier post, there is still potential for the red reality to have been real. The ending only proves that Michael can manipulate his dreams however he wants/needs.

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  25. magnutude25 May 2012 at 06:38

    A tripped out psychedelic ride of a finale that I loved even though I'm not quite sure that I fully understood the ending - I'm going to go with that even at the very end he was still dreaming, but can't be 100% sure of that, but I'll ride that train for now. Still just totally awesome performances with those who I'm used to being good guys as the bad and Jason as the good guy when I'm used to him being the villain (there's a minor bizarro world right there, lol) sad that the fully story/concept wont be realized. I appreciate NBC taking a chance on this and sad that it didn't catch on more, but I felt that this might've played better on cable.

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  26. nunette25 May 2012 at 07:11

    At least Micheal got closure, and now is with both his wife & son. 

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  27. nellymendezcolon25 May 2012 at 10:43

    O.M.G..tge best way to ended the series the character had a final closure and resolve his final crime the script was perfectly executed & the last scene was so beautiful

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  28. nunocruz7925 May 2012 at 11:52

    I loved the finale, the ambiguity, the space it left for discussion..
    I really appreciate when the writers don't look at us as morons and don't feel the urge to spoon-feed us the whole explanation.
    IMO, open endings (and beginnings, for that matter) are realistic because life's just like that, you can tell a "closed" story but there's always the before and after.. there's always room to expand and tell more..

    All this just to say...
    I'm glad we're discussing the interpretation of the finale and not saying we were cheated because "it all might just be a dream", or "nothing that happened mattered because it didn't really happen"..
    I'm glad were trying to figure out the mechanics of the story and storytelling and not just exploding in rage because we wanted to be told "what the matrix is" (as in the Architect-Neo-scene).

    It saddens me Lost didn't get the same treatment.. 
    It was brilliantly executed both story and storytelling wise, and although you can never please everybody, everybody should recognize the effort put into it by Damon and Carlton and the rest of the writing-staff to build such an intense experience for "smart viewers".

    Just a final note.
    I live in Portugal and I watched these and other series over the net (and buy the DVDs/BRs when I love the series). Just wish my viewing of these "brilliant-out-of-the-box-mind-teasing-thought-provoking" series could contribute to the ratings and to get them renewed but... Americans, that really is your job. ;)

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  29. Stupot81525 May 2012 at 12:35

    Brilliant finale.
    The way I interpreted it is that for the whole season he has flitted between these two false realities trying to split the time betwen his wife and son, but during his final conversation with his therapist, he realised that he could just create a third world where they both exist.  He was on the verge of 'progress' as his therapist would call it, but he said all along he didn't want progress, he just wanted his family back. So he has retreated even deeper into is psychological condition in order to have his wish.

    If anything, it's the total opposite of "he was dreaming all along".  It's more like, "he wasn't dreaming ENOUGH, but now he's totally dreaming, and all the happier for it".

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  30. Stupot81525 May 2012 at 12:49

    By the way, for anyone who still thinks 'it was all a dream', here is Kyle Killen's response:
    https://twitter.com/killen8/status/205662570428891137 

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  31. laura334125 May 2012 at 13:40

      We try keeping the good shows on,look what we did with Fringe! But sometimes it just doesn't work out.... There are a few campaigns out there trying to get the show back on,or being picked up by another network,we will just have to see what happens?

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  32. Lou25 May 2012 at 18:11

    A great post finale interview with Kyle http://www.hitfix.com/whats-alan-watching/awake-series-finale-interview-with-creator-kyle-killen

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  33. Lilith Hellfire25 May 2012 at 18:50

    No, don't give up. It will or does all make sense, sometimes you just have to take a step back and let it simmer and then try again. They really should have at least given it a two hour finale or something, a lot things seemed rushed and thoughts left unfinished.

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  34. C P25 May 2012 at 19:25

    Interesting interview.

    I may have out done myself watching this show though. I like clear answers at the end of the shows I watch. It's a pet peeve of mine. 

    Still, I don't regret watching because I enjoyed it, and eventually the show will fade in my mind and I won't care I never got a clear answer so eventually I'll be good. 

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  35. Folie-lex25 May 2012 at 19:46

    Let me start out by saying how ABSOLUTELLY ecstatic I am that the finale can totally work as a series finale also!!!

    Now that I have that off my chest...

    F#&$%ING BRILLIANT!!!!
    Roalcoaster ride and it worked on every level... I just can't stress how absolutelly smart this show was.
    What was so awesome about it was that even though it did wrap up the season (and the whole of the story) nicely it did open some great possibilities in case it did get picked up. For one I could definitelly see Micheal substituting the Red Reality with the White reality and then at some point revisiting the Red reality to clear his name, while still keeping the Green Reality (which personally I still think is the real reality) at play throughout the whole thing. And I'm sure that's not the only possibility but it's an example of the dozens of things that they could have done with that last door they opened.

    But even though we'll never get to see what could have happened after the 13 hours that we did get, and that were so self satisfying, I don't mind all the ambiguity and the what ifs because they didn't inslult my inteligence as a viewer!!!
    (Life On Mars.UK  all over again BABY!!!! That is what you compare this show with!!!)

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  36. Lou25 May 2012 at 19:59

    Usually I like answers but for some reason not having answers really worked for this show. I think its because it was enjoyable like you say and well acted and that seemed to be enough for me.

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  37. laura334126 May 2012 at 02:17

     I loved it and i am so disappointed that its over.I can't wait to see what his next project will be,hopefully it will not appear on NBC..

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