That happy dance lasted a lot longer than I thought and now I have to replace my computer monitor...
Anyway, yay! I don't only watch it because of the smoking hot female cast, but because I like action shows. Honestly, they get canceled so quickly even common action shows are a dying breed being overtaken by boring as hell cop and medical dramas.
Oh, and Maggie and Shane have tons of chemistry. Maybe it will take another season for them to act on it. XD
My own comments: YESSSSSSSSSSSS, YES, YES, YES, YES! Just watched the Canadian airing of ''Crossbow'', lets just say they have an interesting plotline playing out!
Yes! I have to believe that this wouldn't have happened if Dawn Offstroff was still in charge. Thank god for the wonderful judgement of the new boss Mark Pedowitz!
Very glad it got renewed but worried about what that means for the CW as a station. It has to last at least another 3 years and shows with a 0.4 demo don't make that easy. Let's hope Nikita has stabilized and will not decrease farther.
YES YES YES!!!!!! Wonderful news! Finally, there is some justice in the TV world. An excellent, intelligent, mature show with quality and depth gets renewed, not only the shallow teenage crap that somehow manages better ratings (and other permeats the CW’s schedule). I hope it’s a full season pick-up. Also, that the CW promotes the show better next year because it could really succeed if it was more well-known. This show has something for everyone with exciting fast-paced storylines, exhilirating action, crazy twists, a ton of heart, (mature and well-written) romance, complex characters, top-notch acting, and incredible production values considering the tight budget. Congratulations to the Nikita cast and crew – this couldn’t be more well-deserved.
I bet those geniuses are eating their words now, after having spent MONTHS mocking Nikita fans and saying it doesn't stand a chance, like a bunch of know-it-alls.
I don't give a crap about Ringer, GG, TSC or HoD but you don't see me hating on them and their fans. I didn't want those renewed insofar as it could come at Nikita's expense, but I don't feel the need to call their fans "pathetic" or pretend I know they're getting cancelled when I clearly don't.
Yes, Ostroff was all about those teenage crap shows like Gossip Girl. Pedowitz, on the other hand, knows good TV when he sees it - that's why he's a Nikita fan! Who knows, maybe he can still save the CW by veering it in a more serious, adult direction, rather than just having those teen dramas where "everyone sleeps with everyone" is essentially the plotline. The network can't survive for long with only these kinds of shows.
Some people claimed that if the CW renews Nikita, it means they've accepted that they'll go out of business in a few years and are just trying to get as many shows to syndication as possible before that.
I see it differently, though. For the CW to survive in the long haul, it has to shed its teenybopper image and bring in more serious shows. Right now, I think Nikita and SPN are the only ones that qualify as such (TVD, even if it was good early on, is still considered a teen show by the masses). Nikita gets the network rave reviews (to the point of Emmy buzz for Maggie Q) and can help improve its image, therefore helping attract a more adult audience as well. They can't survive on the tween market alone.
It fell to 0.4 in the final third or so of the season, true, but with better promotion, better scheduling and a better slot (SPN should be a lead-in for Nikita, not vice-versa - it's clear which can gain viewers from which), I think it can become a succesful show. It has something for everyone with an unusual blend of action, suspense, drama, romance, espionage, etc. - all done well.
Some excellent points their Alex, thanks for posting.
It's certainly going to be an interesting couple of years as the TV landscape and technology changes to see what the Networks do to cater for the shift to non-traditional viewing.
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY! Screw those haters from TVBTN! Where are they now? NIKITA RULES! I'm glad The CW is giving it a new season, and hope it means they're revamping their image (2 shows canceled and 5 new shows, it's got to mean they're planning on becoming a bigger network like the other four. I see they chose the two to cancel really well (Ringer and TSC), because those shows wouldn't get any better. Also, I'm really happy bc GG is not getting a full final season. I'm honestly starting to think that Nikita is the new Gossip Girl on the CW. I mean, it's my favorite show of all-time but has some crappy ratings. Renewing it for season 3 is a dumb move if they don't start focusing on promotion. It's got to stay, at least, steady, if they want season 4/syndication. About the new shows, 4 of the 5 that I wanted made it. I just wanted The Selection instead of B&B (it was likely to be a hit because of the whole Hunger Games trend, just like it happened with Vampire Diaries and Twilight back in '09), but I hope all 5 of them make it and become hits for the network.
I would agree that the CW needs to become more diverse in its audience and Mark Pedowitz clearly wants that. The only problem with this argument is that pilots like Carrie Diaries and First Cut sound like they will cater mainly to high school and college age females. Putting Kristin Kruek in Beauty and the Beast also seems to make it early 20's female skewing. This is the demo they are already getting. The only two new shows that sound like they will target a different demo are Arrow and Cult, and the CW already knows it will have a hard time finding an audience for Cult.
As for Nikita, people keep saying it is getting rave reviews but outside of the first couple of episodes of season one which metacritic measures I haven't seen that. I also didn't see any credible entertainment group suggesting Maggie Q for an Emmy. Could you please point me in the right direction? Right now this sounds more like fan wishing. The same goes for the international sales. I haven't found anywhere that compares the international sales of CW shows so it is hard to say which ones really do make a lot of money. I wish we had access to statistics like these because it might make the overall decision making of the CW seem more clear. Right now it looks like the CW threw darts to see which bubble shows would stay.
As for Nikita growing an audience, I unlike many do not think it is impossible. In fact, I think all CW shows have a chance to go slightly up because of Netflix. There will be a lot of people bored with summer TV choices and it seems to be a time when many people catch up on shows they have missed. Already I am hearing about hundreds of people checking out CW shows, mostly because on Netflix they don't know they are on the CW. Netflix will allow people to get caught up with a show's entire catalog and therefore may allow the CW as a whole to see some growth or at least balance out the typical year-by-year viewer attrition. I'm not expecting miracles because the majority of those people will not have Nielsen boxes, but every little bit helps. Still the CW has to expect Nikita to return with at the very most a 0.6 and more likely a 0.5. That is not a positive step in my opinion and I am still shocked that they renewed it. If they do not have at least 2 "hit" shows that can compete on a VD level or higher this coming season, I will say that the syndication theory is a great bet. They have to renegotiate with the affiliates in 2016 and I can't see them being too happy with the current state of the CW.
I think Arrow, Cult and B&TB do sound like they have an interesting plot outside of the "everyone sleeps with everyone" CW brand, but we'll see. I agree that casting Kristin Kreuk seems like an attempt to cater to younger viewers though, I've barely watched 3 episodes of Smallville but she doesn't exactly strike me as a quality actress who can carry a serious show.
As for Nikita's reviews - I'm not familiar enough with TV sites to know which one are considered "mainstream", but every site I've seen gives it great reviews, be it IGN, Screencrave, TVFanatic, Huffington Post, etc. See this ad for a good example: http://ow.ly/i/BYuh/original also, various reviews of the episode "Wrath" said that Maggie Q's work is worthy of an Emmy nod, you can just google it. (I'm not sure what you mean by "entertainment groups", but online critics, definitely.) Now, I'm not delusional: this is still the CW, the chances of her actually *getting* that nomination are about the same as of Mitt Romney becoming the greatest supporter of gay marriage tomorrow. But still, if the CW wants better PR, having Emmy buzz for the lead actress of one of their shows is a very good thing.
Re international sales - it's indeed frustrating that we have no access to that data, but I can't imagine the CW would pick Nikita over the others if its international sales WEREN'T good. And frankly it makes sense: Nikita is a recognizable title, with several movies (the original having been foreign) and a previous TV show. I can definitely see it being more popular abroad than TSC or Ringer. Also consider that Maggie Q is much more well-known in Asia, she trained under Jackie Chan and starred in several martial arts movies.
Finally, there's no point arguing this anymore since we already know the outcome, but I still don't see Nikita's renewal as that shocking, even if I was skeptical. If we could single out this show as getting awful ratings while everything else in the CW was doing well, then yes, cancellation would have been a no-brainer. But you have GG and Ringer dropping to 0.4 and TSC to 0.5 on weekdays! Heck, HoD remaining steady with 0.6 on a weekday is considered success now. I maintain that getting 0.4 on Friday is no worse than 0.5 or 0.6 on a weekday - it's not an excuse for Nikita's ratings, it's the truth. ANY show is going to do worse on Friday than on a weekday; only a veteran like Smallville and SPN, which has already cultivated a loyal audience, can do reasonably well on Friday. IMO, the CW was unfair to Nikita by moving it to Fridays after only one season, with barely any promotion and no lead-in. It did okay considering its very poor conditions.
Hey - if I'm not mistaken, Nikita didn't drop beneath 0.7 in the post-TVD slot last year, did it? That's still mediocre in the best slot on the schedule, true, but when TSC eventually dropped to 0.5 in the same slot (imagine how it would fare on Friday), renewing Nikita over it seems fair to me.
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES 22 eps AWESOME!!!!!!! I really didn't think this was possible, glad to be proven wrong!!!!!!!!! thank you CW!!!!! you made a smart choice ;)))))
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ReplyDeleteAww now this is another show I don't watch but I'm always rooting for, happy for the fans!
ReplyDeleteOMG! I can't believe it! I'm sooo happy!
ReplyDeleteYay! Hope that is not a 13 episode order though!
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ReplyDeletePlease excuse me while I do my happy dance. You might want to look away, it's not pretty.
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ReplyDeleteBEST SHOW! HOPE THIS WILL BE A FULL SEASON!
ReplyDeleteyay happy for Nikita but in mourning about the selection , midnight sun Harry's Law and Awake
ReplyDeleteHaha, I have a few of those too :) Thanks for the support!
ReplyDeleteAgreed. The only CW show I watch. Although I haven't watched many of this season's episodes, I still root for it. Happy for Nikita fans!
ReplyDeleteWonder what this means for Hart of Dixie, but still happy for fans of the show :)
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THANK YOU CW!!! You just made my day! *blows a HUGE kiss to the CW big boss*
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That happy dance lasted a lot longer than I thought and now I have to replace my computer monitor...
ReplyDeleteAnyway, yay! I don't only watch it because of the smoking hot female cast, but because I like action shows. Honestly, they get canceled so quickly even common action shows are a dying breed being overtaken by boring as hell cop and medical dramas.
Oh, and Maggie and Shane have tons of chemistry. Maybe it will take another season for them to act on it. XD
BEST NEWS YET! YESSSS!!
ReplyDeleteHOLY SHIT! Fringe AND Nikita renewed. This. is. PHENOMENAL!
ReplyDeleteThey said that they had a source in the CW that had it down as Cancelled, the ONLY site on the web that hat it down as Cancelled!
ReplyDeleteMy own comments: YESSSSSSSSSSSS, YES, YES, YES, YES! Just watched the Canadian airing of ''Crossbow'', lets just say they have an interesting plotline playing out!
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ReplyDeleteAeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee BEST NEWS EVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
ReplyDeleteThis new made my day wonderful!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nikita is the BEST
ReplyDeleteThis sucks! Ringer deserved to be renewed.
ReplyDeleteyayyyyy!! I'm glad!! :D
ReplyDeleteSo happy to hear!
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ReplyDeleteNo complaints here. I will continue to watch faithfully.
ReplyDeleteLOVING this news! Fight on Team Niki!
ReplyDeleteIn the words of Birkhoff - 'OH HELLS YEAH'
ReplyDeleteYes! I have to believe that this wouldn't have happened if Dawn Offstroff was still in charge. Thank god for the wonderful judgement of the new boss Mark Pedowitz!
ReplyDeleteUhuhuh! Nikita Renewed! Best day of my Life! (: LOVE IT!
ReplyDeleteVery glad it got renewed but worried about what that means for the CW as a station. It has to last at least another 3 years and shows with a 0.4 demo don't make that easy. Let's hope Nikita has stabilized and will not decrease farther.
ReplyDeleteYEEEES! I'm fucking freaking happy right now :D
ReplyDeleteFinally, Nikita 3rd Season with 22 episodes. Happy Dance with joy :)
ReplyDeleteThe show well deserves it, with great cast and still stories to tell...
That's pathetic. They keep this garbage. Really. Cw you need to learn a few things. Stupid move. This show is awful.
ReplyDeleteHoly crap, that I didn't see coming!!!!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteThis is awesome. Nikita is on the wrong network, quite frankly. So glad it's getting another go. YAY!
ReplyDeleteYES YES YES!!!!!! Wonderful news! Finally, there is some justice in the TV world. An excellent, intelligent, mature show with quality and depth gets renewed, not only the shallow teenage crap that somehow manages better ratings (and other permeats the CW’s schedule).
ReplyDeleteI hope it’s a full season pick-up. Also, that the CW promotes the show better next year because it could really succeed if it was more well-known. This show has something for everyone with exciting fast-paced storylines, exhilirating action, crazy twists, a ton of heart, (mature and well-written) romance, complex characters, top-notch acting, and incredible production values considering the tight budget. Congratulations to the Nikita cast and crew – this couldn’t be more well-deserved.
I bet those geniuses are eating their words now, after having spent MONTHS mocking Nikita fans and saying it doesn't stand a chance, like a bunch of know-it-alls.
ReplyDeleteI don't give a crap about Ringer, GG, TSC or HoD but you don't see me hating on them and their fans. I didn't want those renewed insofar as it could come at Nikita's expense, but I don't feel the need to call their fans "pathetic" or pretend I know they're getting cancelled when I clearly don't.
Yes, Ostroff was all about those teenage crap shows like Gossip Girl. Pedowitz, on the other hand, knows good TV when he sees it - that's why he's a Nikita fan! Who knows, maybe he can still save the CW by veering it in a more serious, adult direction, rather than just having those teen dramas where "everyone sleeps with everyone" is essentially the plotline. The network can't survive for long with only these kinds of shows.
ReplyDeleteSome people claimed that if the CW renews Nikita, it means they've accepted that they'll go out of business in a few years and are just trying to get as many shows to syndication as possible before that.
ReplyDeleteI see it differently, though. For the CW to survive in the long haul, it has to shed its teenybopper image and bring in more serious shows. Right now, I think Nikita and SPN are the only ones that qualify as such (TVD, even if it was good early on, is still considered a teen show by the masses). Nikita gets the network rave reviews (to the point of Emmy buzz for Maggie Q) and can help improve its image, therefore helping attract a more adult audience as well. They can't survive on the tween market alone.
It fell to 0.4 in the final third or so of the season, true, but with better promotion, better scheduling and a better slot (SPN should be a lead-in for Nikita, not vice-versa - it's clear which can gain viewers from which), I think it can become a succesful show. It has something for everyone with an unusual blend of action, suspense, drama, romance, espionage, etc. - all done well.
Yep, exactly.
ReplyDeleteSome excellent points their Alex, thanks for posting.
ReplyDeleteIt's certainly going to be an interesting couple of years as the TV landscape and technology changes to see what the Networks do to cater for the shift to non-traditional viewing.
Nikita got a full 22-episode order :)
ReplyDeleteYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY! Screw those haters from TVBTN! Where are they now? NIKITA RULES! I'm glad The CW is giving it a new season, and hope it means they're revamping their image (2 shows canceled and 5 new shows, it's got to mean they're planning on becoming a bigger network like the other four. I see they chose the two to cancel really well (Ringer and TSC), because those shows wouldn't get any better. Also, I'm really happy bc GG is not getting a full final season.
ReplyDeleteI'm honestly starting to think that Nikita is the new Gossip Girl on the CW. I mean, it's my favorite show of all-time but has some crappy ratings. Renewing it for season 3 is a dumb move if they don't start focusing on promotion. It's got to stay, at least, steady, if they want season 4/syndication.
About the new shows, 4 of the 5 that I wanted made it. I just wanted The Selection instead of B&B (it was likely to be a hit because of the whole Hunger Games trend, just like it happened with Vampire Diaries and Twilight back in '09), but I hope all 5 of them make it and become hits for the network.
I would agree that the CW needs to become more diverse in its audience and Mark Pedowitz clearly wants that. The only problem with this argument is that pilots like Carrie Diaries and First Cut sound like they will cater mainly to high school and college age females. Putting Kristin Kruek in Beauty and the Beast also seems to make it early 20's female skewing. This is the demo they are already getting. The only two new shows that sound like they will target a different demo are Arrow and Cult, and the CW already knows it will have a hard time finding an audience for Cult.
ReplyDeleteAs for Nikita, people keep saying it is getting rave reviews but outside of the first couple of episodes of season one which metacritic measures I haven't seen that. I also didn't see any credible entertainment group suggesting Maggie Q for an Emmy. Could you please point me in the right direction? Right now this sounds more like fan wishing. The same goes for the international sales. I haven't found anywhere that compares the international sales of CW shows so it is hard to say which ones really do make a lot of money. I wish we had access to statistics like these because it might make the overall decision making of the CW seem more clear. Right now it looks like the CW threw darts to see which bubble shows would stay.
As for Nikita growing an audience, I unlike many do not think it is impossible. In fact, I think all CW shows have a chance to go slightly up because of Netflix. There will be a lot of people bored with summer TV choices and it seems to be a time when many people catch up on shows they have missed. Already I am hearing about hundreds of people checking out CW shows, mostly because on Netflix they don't know they are on the CW. Netflix will allow people to get caught up with a show's entire catalog and therefore may allow the CW as a whole to see some growth or at least balance out the typical year-by-year viewer attrition. I'm not expecting miracles because the majority of those people will not have Nielsen boxes, but every little bit helps. Still the CW has to expect Nikita to return with at the very most a 0.6 and more likely a 0.5. That is not a positive step in my opinion and I am still shocked that they renewed it. If they do not have at least 2 "hit" shows that can compete on a VD level or higher this coming season, I will say that the syndication theory is a great bet. They have to renegotiate with the affiliates in 2016 and I can't see them being too happy with the current state of the CW.
I think Arrow, Cult and B&TB do sound like they have an interesting plot outside of the "everyone sleeps with everyone" CW brand, but we'll see. I agree that casting Kristin Kreuk seems like an attempt to cater to younger viewers though, I've barely watched 3 episodes of Smallville but she doesn't exactly strike me as a quality actress who can carry a serious show.
ReplyDeleteAs for Nikita's reviews - I'm not familiar enough with TV sites to know which one are considered "mainstream", but every site I've seen gives it great reviews, be it IGN, Screencrave, TVFanatic, Huffington Post, etc. See this ad for a good example: http://ow.ly/i/BYuh/original also, various reviews of the episode "Wrath" said that Maggie Q's work is worthy of an Emmy nod, you can just google it. (I'm not sure what you mean by "entertainment groups", but online critics, definitely.) Now, I'm not delusional: this is still the CW, the chances of her actually *getting* that nomination are about the same as of Mitt Romney becoming the greatest supporter of gay marriage tomorrow. But still, if the CW wants better PR, having Emmy buzz for the lead actress of one of their shows is a very good thing.
Re international sales - it's indeed frustrating that we have no access to that data, but I can't imagine the CW would pick Nikita over the others if its international sales WEREN'T good. And frankly it makes sense: Nikita is a recognizable title, with several movies (the original having been foreign) and a previous TV show. I can definitely see it being more popular abroad than TSC or Ringer. Also consider that Maggie Q is much more well-known in Asia, she trained under Jackie Chan and starred in several martial arts movies.
Finally, there's no point arguing this anymore since we already know the outcome, but I still don't see Nikita's renewal as that shocking, even if I was skeptical. If we could single out this show as getting awful ratings while everything else in the CW was doing well, then yes, cancellation would have been a no-brainer. But you have GG and Ringer dropping to 0.4 and TSC to 0.5 on weekdays! Heck, HoD remaining steady with 0.6 on a weekday is considered success now. I maintain that getting 0.4 on Friday is no worse than 0.5 or 0.6 on a weekday - it's not an excuse for Nikita's ratings, it's the truth. ANY show is going to do worse on Friday than on a weekday; only a veteran like Smallville and SPN, which has already cultivated a loyal audience, can do reasonably well on Friday. IMO, the CW was unfair to Nikita by moving it to Fridays after only one season, with barely any promotion and no lead-in. It did okay considering its very poor conditions.
Hey - if I'm not mistaken, Nikita didn't drop beneath 0.7 in the post-TVD slot last year, did it? That's still mediocre in the best slot on the schedule, true, but when TSC eventually dropped to 0.5 in the same slot (imagine how it would fare on Friday), renewing Nikita over it seems fair to me.
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES 22 eps AWESOME!!!!!!! I really didn't think this was possible, glad to be proven wrong!!!!!!!!! thank you CW!!!!! you made a smart choice ;)))))
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