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POLL : What did you think of Revenge - Scandal?

1 Mar 2012

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22 comments:

  1. Marie Christine1 March 2012 at 04:00

    April is sooo far away !!!

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  2. S1 March 2012 at 04:04

    there's no new episodes until april?? 

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  3. Marie Christine1 March 2012 at 04:15

    Well when it ended, the ABC voice said "Revenge will be back in April with new episodes"... 

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  4. Alana Yasso1 March 2012 at 04:30

    Are Ashley and Nolan connected in some sort of scandal against Emily?

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  5. MeatyStakes1 March 2012 at 07:03

    Fauxmanda is so dead now.

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  6. gb3569211 March 2012 at 07:14

    Typically excellent episode.

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  7. WolfTvAddict1 March 2012 at 07:42

    Excellent follow up episode! From reading spoilers and watching the sneak peaks I wasn't surprised by much (like that Takeda was the killer or that Daniel was framed), but I was really surprised that the judge refused Daniel bail and shipped him to a maximum security prison. That's gotta make Emily feel really conflicted now about what her actions have led to. And now it's looking like she's going to have to decide between Jack and Daniel.

    It'll be interesting now that Victoria seems to have placed some trust in Emily too. It seemed like she recognized that Emily had gone home to open the window and create a reasonable explanation for how Tyler had gotten into the house. I wonder how that's going to change the dynamic of their relationship for the time being (the alliance as Emily put it).

    And I'm wondering what Nolan has planned with the information that Ashley was the one to leak the photos of Daniel. At the beginning of the season I kind of liked Ashley, but now she's really shown herself to be a bitch through her actions. I hope she gets taken down for her selfish actions.

    Now I just wish we didn't have to wait till April for new episodes! That's unbearably long!

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  8. JJ1 March 2012 at 07:51

    Takeda IS NOT the killer. Daniel shot Tyler through THE HEART, shooting him in the back was redundant and Takeda only did that because the nut was still moving. He would have died anyway only he would have died slower. Daniel killed him. You don't have to think the way the writers/producers tell you, as a matter of fact you'd be better off if you didn't. What they are telling people about "the real killer" being someone other than Daniel is complete BS, he pretty much admitted that he killed Tyler. Go back and WATCH it, you might learn something.

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  9. Kelly Vinson1 March 2012 at 07:58

    this show just keeps getting better ! if i have to wait until april  i think i might cry alittle but i think emily needs some jack daniels :P hehe love it 

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  10. Kelly Vinson1 March 2012 at 08:02

     some people are only prone to what they want to see , wonder what her next move shall be though :)

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  11. WolfTvAddict1 March 2012 at 08:49

     First, you don't have to be so rude JJ.

    However I would argue that Takeda is the real killer for several reasons. Daniel shot Tyler in the chest, but not necessarily in the heart. If you watch the scene carefully Daniel shot Tyler slightly to the right side of the chest-the heart is on the left side. There is no telling how long it might have taken Tyler to bleed out (with pressure to stem blood flow and a call to 911 right away it could be argued that he might have been saved).

    If you don't want to accept that then consider this, the definition of kill is to cause the death of (a permanent cessation of all vital functions : the end of life). Daniel may have fired the shot that would have ended Tyler's life, but Takeda fired the two shots that actually did cause his death.

    Plus what many people have been looking towards is finding out who murdered Tyler. It was assumed by fans (maybe not all, but at least some) based on the promo, the events of the last episode, spoilers, articles, and interviews that Tyler had been murdered. Daniel fired his shot in self defense, while Takeda committed cold blooded murder. When people use the term killer I think they're referring to the murder.

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  12. Ajlin1 March 2012 at 10:30

    So? Daniel shot in self-defense. Case closed. Furthermore, Tyler didn't even die from Daniel's bullet. He died immediately from Takeda's bullets - hence Takeda IS the killer. Also, Daniel did not admit to be Tyler's killer. He admitted to shooting him, not the same thing. Maybe YOU should go back and watch it again, you might learn something.

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  13. Liz Nguyen1 March 2012 at 10:42

    I thought this episode was great. It really set up some interesting storylines for when the show comes back.
    It doesn't really matter to me who killed Tyler, I'm just so excited about what it all means and what's going to happen to each character.
     I think I'm the only one who doesn't believe that Emily has feelings for Daniel - to me it seems that she only feels sorry for him that he's a victim in all of this. So whatever happens to him I'm not too interested in, just how it will affect the Greysons and how that falls into Emily's big plan for Revenge.

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  14. Ajlin1 March 2012 at 10:46

    I agree completely with you. If the court had the same knowledge as the audience, there's no way in hell that Daniel wouldn't get off. And more importantly, SHOULD get off. His life was threatened at gunpoint. He warned Tyler, so he did try to avoid fatality. He only shot when Tyler came charging towards him. It's a textbook case of self-defense, plain and simple. In addition, Tyler didn't even die from Daniel's shot. 

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  15. Marie Christine1 March 2012 at 18:35

    I think there is a lot of grey areas here. I don't know specifics about self-defense in the state of New York, but in some places there's the saying "you don't bring a gun into a knife fight" meaning you have to use the same force as your adversary... the thing is when Daniel shot, Tyler was unarmed.. so there might the factor of using greater force than the threat against you.. but then the defense might argue that Tyler had the gun first.. 

    That being said, how he would be judged would depend on a lot of factors, including evidence and the way it is handled, the perception of the jury, reasonable doubt, testimonies, etc.. 
    And let's say self-defense didn't work, there would then be the debate between murder and attempted murder depending on if the gunshot wound inflicted by Daniel would have been fatal or not without the others..

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  16. Jenni Lou1 March 2012 at 18:49

     Don't think so. I think he was trying to wrap her in and keep her close so that he control what she tells the media.

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  17. Ajlin1 March 2012 at 21:50

    I'm aware of your first point which is why I said Tyler was threatening Daniel at GUN-point. That is, Daniel wasn't using anymore force than Tyler because it was Tyler who brought the gun into the fight. 

    I did say IF the court had the same knowledge as the audience. But the court rarely has that much knowledge which is why in real life, it isn't clear cut. 

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  18. prpleight2 March 2012 at 00:11

    I wasn't surprised that bail was refused at all...considering the number of rich kids whose parents got them out of the country  in an attempt to keep them from facing the law.  (Both of the cases that come to mind...though with little detail were eventually caught.)  I was surprised he was sent to Rikers though.

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  19. Marie Christine2 March 2012 at 00:13

    Also very true !! Actually my comment was meant to be in addition to yours following the train of thought and was not against yours, sorry it was unclear !!
    I really wonder how it's gonna unfold since I read somewhere season 2 opener would probably be Emily and Daniel's wedding.. but I don't remember where I read that so it's possibly only a rumor.. Anyways I'm pretty sure something unexpected will come up when it goes on trial !!

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  20. prpleight2 March 2012 at 00:16

    Daniel didn't kill Tyler because Tyler was still alive and talking  after Daniel shot him.   You can't say someone killed someone because *IF* the victim hadn't gotten medical attention in a timely fashion he would have died.  *IF* the victim got medical attention he might have lived. 

    At the point when Takeda arrived Tyler was conscious and talking.  At that point Daniel was guilty of assault with a deadly weapon but until Tyler died from the shot Daniel fired Daniel was NOT guilty of murder.  That's fact.Takeda's shots killed Tyler.  Not Daniel's.

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  21. prpleight2 March 2012 at 00:24

    Great episode.  Everyone's been talking about the actual shooting and Daniel being arrested.

    What stuck out to me about the episode was Takeda's involvement in the  entire situation... I'm really bummed he left town.   We've seen through the beginning of the series that Amanda had  advisers...like the woman in the juvie facility that counceled her on handling FauxAmanda.  But Takeda seems to have taken a more personal role.  He was, imho, very father figure like when we first saw him and he told her she'd strayed from the path and lost control.  Last night, after a brief moment or two of hand to hand combat(!) he admonished her that the loss of focus he'd already warned her about had caused chaos.  He went to Nolan and enlisted his help in keeping track of the situation. And of course stepping in to kill Tyler to protect her.

    What is going on there?  Are we going to find out or is this character just a deus ex machina type of character that pops in when the writers want to get Amanda out of an impossible position.

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  22. Ashwaq2 March 2012 at 09:00

    I def. thought the same about Takeda's involvement too after I finished watching this.. he's becoming too much of a protector, 'coz I think that he is trying to even get rid of Jack too (as he already did 
    Fauxmanda) when he said "and that other guy you have feelings for".. doesn't sound promising for Jack..

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