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POLL : What did you think of Awake - Kate Is Enough?

23 Mar 2012

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26 comments:

  1. prpleight23 March 2012 at 06:07

    what kind of homicide detective looks at the area where a jumper went overboard, sees a handle that has zero prints on it and responds to the idea that the victim was pushed and the handle wiped down afterward by saying that theory "is a stretch"?  No wonder it took over ten years for the guy to get his shield.  sigh.

    That's my biggest problem with this side of Britten's life....his young partner is an idiot.  His reaction every single time that Britten says "look deeper" he balks....geez.I'm considering starting a mail in campaign so people can send in excuses that Britten could use when people ask where he got a particular idea.  'Followed my instincts' is better than his previous explanations but, I mean really...how hard would it have been to say he saw it in some movie?  (I've seen a bunch of movies where people hid things in the bathroom.  I would have really chuckled if he'd found it in a tampon box.  [something I saw in an ep of Moonlight. :-) ]  )

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  2. Adam D. Harris23 March 2012 at 09:29

    Still only half way through, but I have an issue.

    There's the scene with Britten at the boat, and he runs into Kate, then we see him at the second murder scene with the guy tied to the chair, then he runs into the second Kate.

    So why does Cherry Jones' psych say that he probably saw a picture of her and that's how he placed her at the boat scene... but that happened after the oat scene as well.

    Is this a mistake or did I miss something? It's bugging me enough to pause the show and find out :P

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  3. Baff23 March 2012 at 09:35

    Yeah, I noticed that too.  Bad mistake.

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  4. Adam D. Harris23 March 2012 at 10:03

    With the exception of the issue I mentioned in the previous post, which isn't totally killer, I really enjoyed the episode and the way the story-lines unfolded.

    I wish they'd mentioned Rex's kidnapping as well as a potential reason for his acting out. They were all "he lost his mom" but he was also almost killed after being kidnapped last episode!

    Wonder when Laura Innes character will return as well...

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  5. Stupot81523 March 2012 at 14:57

    Maybe it's a cluuuuue.
    We're supposed to think it's a mistake, but it will turn out that there is some reason for it.  Can't think what this reason might be, but...  maybe Britten isn't telling his shrinks everything, or something.. hmmm.

    Haha, I haven't even seen the episode yet, so I don't even know why I'm on this page... I'm usually strictly spoiler free.  I'll be back with my thoughts after I've seen it :-)

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  6. Cliff23 March 2012 at 15:56

    Actually, he said it's kind of a "reach", which is something different and makes more sense in that scene ;)

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  7. Lou23 March 2012 at 17:55

    Best episode since the pilot. I mean the show can be predictable at times (I mean really Rex and his racket who didn't see that immediately?) but I just love how this show is filmed and acted it is wonderful

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  8. prpleight23 March 2012 at 20:20

    Not for me.  In that situation reach and stretch are equally bad. You're a detective...you're at the very beginning of the investigation of someone's death and to close your mind off to any possibility, without * evidence* to the contrary, is IMHO a bad detective.   At that point all they had were statements from witnesses, most of whom were guessing that she jumped.  If he'd said 'maybe she pushed it' was valid but to dismiss any theory at that point is not, IMHO, investigating, it's smacks of looking for the quickest, easiest, answer so you can get home early.

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  9. prpleight23 March 2012 at 20:33

    Didn't stick out to me at all.  My assumption, because the scene with Dr. Evans ( Cherry Jones; had to look it up)  was after the Dr. Lee scene (where he was crying BS to the whole Kate has relevance issue) left me thinking that.....

    Britten had discussed Kate with Dr. Lee then gone to Dr. Evans and told her what Dr. Lee said.  Dr. Lee's response prompted Dr. Evans to look at other possible theories about Kate's presence.  So, for me, Dr. Evans was talking retroactively to *both* encounters that Britten had with Kate.

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  10. prpleight23 March 2012 at 20:35

    The Laura Innes question is bugging me as well.  Especially after reading the Hollywood Reporter's review.  The reviewer had seen 4 eps an noted that the thread introduced with her character was left untouched in any of the other eps he'd seen.

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  11. Cliff23 March 2012 at 20:56

    Well, it was kind of a reach for Britten.. they heard she was drunk and probably fell, then he just happens to notice a clean handle and guesses she might be pushed and the handle wiped clean afterwards? Well, that's not what I'd immediately think if I were a detective, and even then it would be kind of a reach. Just my opinion =)

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  12. Stupot81523 March 2012 at 21:28

    Finally seen it.

    I still have a problem with the fact that the realities are different OUTSIDE of Britten's sphere of influence.  I mean, I understand how events that directly stem from Rex being alive can cause a different butterfly effect than in the world where Hannah is alive (such as having a different partner, and thus different cases).   But it seems to me that the realities are so different in ways that should not have been effected by the Britten crash.

    Kate is a clear example of this; In one reality she has overcome the death of her sister and become a successful banker, and in the other reality she has become a drug addict.  Why?  She puts it down to her mother having that one extra attempt at trying to comfort her.  But for me, this doesn't make sense, unless the mother was directly prevented from making that 'one extra attempt' in the green reality by something that can be traced back to the fact that Rex survived the Britten crash.

    The reason I'm a little upset by this is because I REALLY want both worlds to be equal, in as much as they can be equal, in that Rex is 'equally' alive (and no more or less part of Britten's immagination) in green as Hannah is alive in red.  Don't ask me why, maybe I just like the symmetry of it... If it turns out that one world is real and one is a dream, it just feels unpleasant to me... maybe it's a weird OCD thing, hahaha.

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  13. prpleight23 March 2012 at 22:16

    Maybe it's my choice of entertainment (books and film). Completely wiped down surfaces are always the clue that the scene isn't as simple as the cops are being told.

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  14. V_s23 March 2012 at 23:42

    The reason the worlds are different for reasons other than who survived is because these aren't two different timelines. One is a dream world in which things that have nothing to do with the surviving party can be changed.

    Now if the accident had caused two different timelines in which one person died and the other survived, and the identities of the deceased and the survivor were swapped in the other timeline you'd be exactly right. However, because one of these realities is all in Michael's head and isn't causally related to the crash, things unrelated to the crash are still allowed to be different.

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  15. Boris Breynin23 March 2012 at 23:53

    Not only has he chose which rubber band to wear for both realities but he always chose two color shirts i noticed at last nights episode.

    For exactly four episodes hes been wearing white in red reality and blue shirt in green reality and isnt it weird that rex's tennis uniform is the same color as his reality lol

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  16. Stupot81523 March 2012 at 23:55

    Is that confirmed then, that one of the realities is a dream, or is that just your suggestion?  If that's the case then I'm not really interested, because it's just a show about a guy who is awake for a bit and then has dreams, and there's little at stake.

    But the conversation at the end of 'The Little Guy' clearly suggests something more is going on.  I want both worlds to not necessarily be real, but to be as real (or as fake) as each other Because I'm convinced there's a third world in which both Rex and Hannah (and maybe even Michael himself) are dead.

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  17. V_s24 March 2012 at 02:21

    The writers and Jason Isaacs have said in multiple interviews that they know which reality is real, and they certainly seem to imply that one world is a dream and one is reality. Obviously episode 2's ending shows us that it's not entirely that straightforward, but the writers have had the whole "Michael's dead" theory asked about them already, and they've said that's not the case.

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  18. Stupot81524 March 2012 at 13:13

    Haha, yeah I noticed that green seems to be the 'school colours' for Rex's Tennis club...  Convenient...

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  19. Stupot81524 March 2012 at 13:30

    Ahh, Okay, I didn't realise this was already known.  But on the NBC website it says 'two dreams, one reality'. I think Red and Green are the two dream worlds (keeping my symmetry in tact) and the 'one reality' is a seperate, third world, the real one.  This would fit with what you say about Isaacs and co. knowing which is the true reality.

    And it would also fit with what I said here, following 'the little guy' (http://www.spoilertv.com/2012/03/awake-102-independent-witness-by.html#comment-461932301)

    "Do you remember when Michael wakes up and can't find his wristband, and shouts for Hannah then cuts his hand.   Was it me or did the house seem eerily empty and un-lived-in during those few seconds?  Okay, there was furtinture and a bicycle and stuff, but it was as though he had woken up in the house of a family who had been killed weeks ago.  Also, during this scene there was a lack of the usual red hue that is supposed to mean Hannah is alive.  I wondered if maybe there is another reality in which neither wife nor son survived, and Michael caught a brief glimpse of this world... I wonder also if it is possible that it was indeed "the house of a FAMILY who had been killed weeks ago".

    So it could be that we have already glimpsed this third, real, world... I'll call it Gred, haha.

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  20. Boris Breynin24 March 2012 at 19:29

    If im not mistaken i think tricia harper michaels captain will be shown in the green reality?

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  21. Boris Breynin24 March 2012 at 19:42

    Next episode Laura Innes appears and i believe she appears in green reality

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  22. Lilith Hellfire24 March 2012 at 21:49

    well coma isn't dead technically right?

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  23. Lilith Hellfire27 March 2012 at 02:44

    I  know the red world is like where he learns things that help him in the green world but the green world really has no effect on the red world as of yet... I want them to be equal as well (both dreams) but I just can't help but think of basic color theory: red being a primary color and green being a secondary color (it has been stuck in my head since I learned about the color coding)

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  24. Lilith Hellfire27 March 2012 at 02:49

    Yep, the good old CSI effect makes for more paranoid criminals (and tainted jury pools)

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  25. prpleight27 March 2012 at 03:19

    egads.  I just realized.. now I have 4 color coded realities to keep up with.  (And I was confused when I only had two!)  Red and Blue in Fringe (I still don't know which is which) and now Red and Green for Awake.  Please remind me?  Is Red where his wife is alive?

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  26. prpleight27 March 2012 at 03:22

    LOL....It's also made jury instructions more detailed.

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