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16 Feb 2012

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  1. Nerwen Aldarion16 February 2012 at 04:03

    I would love to know how the shooter was wearing black gloves but now isn;t. I would love to know where the gloves Tyler was wearing went because when they were dragging his body away in the pilot, they were gone. I would love to know how we actually see Daniel (yes that was Daniel, look at the sideburns) falling to the ground but then it becomes Tyler. 

    I would love to know how they plan to fill these obviously gaping holes or how they expect to make the killing off of a middling character into something serious.

    I have a sickening feeling that Revenge just jumped the shark.

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  2. Juliana Carvalho16 February 2012 at 04:17

    I'm just glad that they didn't kill Daniel. Despite the fact that he's absolutely clueless, i kind of like him and i think will be more interesting to keep him alive than Tyler. Should be fun to watch what the reaction would be if he ever find out about Emily's revenge. Great episode!

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  3. Todd Wood16 February 2012 at 04:37

    Ok first of all... They wanted to make you think it was Daniel the whole time and play you into it and wanted to do the BIG Twist by it not being him but Tyler.... 2nd The shooter was wearing black gloves and if you looked closely at the beggining it was a womans hand grabbing the road map to Revenge... And we all seen Amanda at the Beach bending over Tylers body when Jack came running down.... They played us good but honeslty i had it all figured out the first half hour of the episode except i didnt see Daniel being the suspect i still think Amanda is the Shooter but left and Daniel got her blood or Tylers Blood on him cuz she was bleeding in the back dont forget.

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  4. Todd Wood16 February 2012 at 04:45

    Beautiful and Well Written Episode yet. The Acting was fabulous and made it all convincing. I am left in Question with the Asian guy and how he is or becomes almost the Center of the whole thing. First he abandons Emily awhile ago then shows up but how did he know about the enagement party? He ignores Emilys call at the resturant with Daniel, Howd he know exactly where the box was at?, What was his plan with Nolan when they nodded at eachother and left Emily in question, And howd he know to pick Amanda up right there and said something like it was what hes there for or something like that. He is really getting me questioned if he is even someone bigger than the Graysons.. This guy is a huge mystery to me.. I also read from one of the cast after they learned who the body was on the beach that the killer they reveal isnt really the killer its a setup so my guess is Amanda really killed Tyler but Daniel was the Collateral Damage because that blood has to be either Amanda's or Tylers after Tyler being shot. plus Amanda was still bleeding from the back and it was a womans hand picking up the revenge map on the ground in the sand in the begginning and she was the only one who still had the gloves on. This episode is one i have to go back and rewatch everything again closely to see any hints were dropped for more stuff to come... WOW

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  5. Chanelle Montpetit16 February 2012 at 04:46

    I FUCKING LOVED IT! ohly crap yes. Now I can't wiat for the season to be down, buy it, and watch it more carefully to see if they cheated us

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  6. Chris Roberts16 February 2012 at 04:48

    I should have known they wouldn't have the guts to kill Daniel.It's obvious they changed their plans.Tyler wasn't In pilot.What happened to gloves Tyler was wearing.we know It was amanda who killed Tyler.Now I wonder who gave Amanda the ride.Question Is also how much did Tyler tell Daniel before Amanda killed him.I still believe all the build up was a cheat.Who cares about Tyler.After the buildup It was defently a cheat.

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  7. Nerwen Aldarion16 February 2012 at 04:55

    Then where did the black gloves that Tyler was wearing go????? He wasn't wearing them when he was lying dead on the beach.

    But more than that, how does this murder change anything? How is this the big epic "gamechanger" that they all have been touting?

    Tyler, a character that was already gone and not really missed, is now dead. Okay, now Emily’s secret is safe in that regard.But oops he told Daniel…who just conveniently lost memory….okay…so nothing has changed on that front.Daniel is going to be charged with murdering Tyler…except that Tyler is the mentally deranged violent offender that pulled a gun on his family at Daniel’s birthday…what court in their right mind go through with this? The self defense claim writes itself, even if they can’t prove Tyler brought the gun, it’s his word against Daniel’s…who is obviously much more reliable. Throw in the fact that a jury would be biased towards what is probably a credible threat to Daniel’s safety…Honestly I’d be less upset if they had Jack taking the fall for the murder of Tyler, it would have made him collateral damage again and caused emotional turmoil as Emily would have to decide if letting Jack be tried for murder would be worth keeping her secret. Instead they went the route they did, a bait and switch which is full of holes and ultimately changes nothing.How can I be anything but disappointed?

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  8. jrenda18216 February 2012 at 05:21

    i actually don't think they changed their plans....i knew from the start it wouldn't be daniel, how the hell can she exact revenge on the graysons if her one tie to them is dead

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  9. WolfTvAddict16 February 2012 at 05:22

    I'll have to go back and watch the episode to try to come up with some explanations for some of the holes, but for now I still think that we're missing some holes (pieces of time) that they might plan to fill in some of the blanks. For example what happened with Amanda before we saw Jack get to the body, what happened to Daniel between when we saw Tyler holding him hostage and when we saw him wandering back up. I'm trusting for now that most of the discrepancies will be filled in during later episodes.

    Personally, yes I think that it would have been gutsy to have killed Daniel, but I think that this twist was awesome! I feel that way because it gives the show SO much room to play with now. I don't think that Daniel has amnesia (or if he does, it won't be for long). Daniel may decide to side with Emily to take his family down, he may side with his family to take Emily down. Either way his knowing the truth is going to make everything a whole lot messier (but in a good way).

    And now Jack has to wonder about why Tyler had Emily's phone call and will probably see the text. Plus I think that Takedo is going to make Amanda disappear for awhile. I personally think that we have a lot more to look forward to for now.

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  10. WolfTvAddict16 February 2012 at 05:37

    I don't think it was who was murdered that was the game changer as much as it was the events the immediately proceeded and followed the murder.

    They didn't say necessarily that Daniel lost his memory (he may have just been in shock). That means that there is a good chance that he remembers what Tyler told him about Emily (even if he does have amnesia it's temporary), which on this show I'm sure means he's either going to team up with Emily to take down his family or will turn against her and try to take her down.

    Jack's got Daniels phone which was on Tyler's body and has the text Tyler sent, he's got to figure out why Amanda was bloody, and he presumes she shot somebody. He's going to be more driven than ever to get answers. Especially since Amanda was picked up by Takedo (which I assume means he's going to make her disappear for awhile).

    And you have to remember we are still missing some important pieces of time that I'm sure will reveal some new surprises and answer some questions. We'll just have to wait and see what the writers have in store. Personally I'm excited.

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  11. Aydrian16 February 2012 at 05:39

    How is ANYONE surprised or at all disappointed by this? Every interview, every article, every spoiler has said MULTIPLE times not to assume it's Daniel. Multiple times, people! Did anyone pay attention?

    I'm sorry, I know that's rude, but I'm looking at most of these comments and now my face is red from facepalming like a madman. The ONLY unexpected or surprising thing about this episode was Tyler. That's it.

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  12. percysowner16 February 2012 at 05:40

     I think their plans were flexible.  If Revenge hadn't been a hit and had run only 13 episodes, like many shows this year, the end of the show could have been Amanda getting her revenge by having Daniel (an innocent she cared about) die.  The Graysons would have been destroyed, Amanda would have had to deal with the consequences of her revenge and the show would have gone out on an ending of sorts. 

    Now Revenge is a hit, so keeping Daniel, a popular character, alive and showing us that the revenge may be more layered than we first thought is a way to keep the show going for more than one season.

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  13. Bruce_F16 February 2012 at 05:45

     I totally called Tyler and the box, thankyouverymuch.  :)

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  14. Bruce_F16 February 2012 at 05:57

    Decent episode.
     - I'm disappointed they didn't kill Daniel.  That would have been ballsy.  I don't buy that this was the plan all along either.  I think the plan was to kill Daniel but they chickened out.  Oh well.
     - Daniel's fuzzy memory is too convenient.  I wonder if the show will have him forget all the dirt Tyler told him about Emily.
     - Just when Jack thinks he's out, they pull him back in.  :)
     - Speaking of Jack, what happened to his keys?
     - I hope they don't show too much of Charlotte's downward spiral.  Junkies are annoying to watch.
     - I like Takeda.  I hope he shows up more often.  And what was with him and Nolan?
     - So grandpa Grayson is a douchebag too.  Way to put your precious name over your granddaughter's mental health, you ass.
     - We're fifteen episodes in and I'm still waiting for Emily to kick someone's ass like she did to Nolan in the pilot.
     - I'm guessing that instead of Tyler setting up Emily for Daniel's murder, Takeda set up Daniel for Tyler's murder.  He was never in favor of Emily's personal involvement with Daniel in the first place.
     - I really have to wonder what Takeda is going to do with stripper Emily.

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  15. WolfTvAddict16 February 2012 at 06:11

    Actually Tyler returning has been speculated for a couple weeks now (and him being the one to die has been speculated since he became a recurring character).

    I think that people are sharing their disappointment more with the fact that writers change their plans based on popular perception instead of following their own vision. The creators of the show have been saying for awhile that apparently (after tonight) it was never their plan to kill off Daniel, but a lot of people don't buy that and are disappointed that the writers didn't follow through with writing the storyline the way they had originally intended. Plus disappointment is a personal feeling, everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

    And as for those who were surprised, for as many articles/spoilers/interviews I've seen saying not to assume it's Daniel, I've seen as many saying to go ahead and assume it's Daniel.

     

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  16. WolfTvAddict16 February 2012 at 06:43

    Hhmmm, interesting idea about Takeda setting up Daniel for Tyler's murder. Somehow I think that there has to be a reason that the police are charging him (and given Tyler's back history self defense seems like it would get him off the hook pretty easily).

    Actually that might make sense. I went back and watched the last 10 minutes or so and if you look closely, Daniel has blood coming out of his ears (might explain the falling at the beginning-somebody knocking him out), plus it sounded like there were 3 shots (one first and then two shortly later), but Tyler only appears to have one gunshot wound. Could be that someone, maybe Takeda, shot Tyler once, cracked Daniel over the head and then placed the gun in Daniel's hand and fired it to place gunshot residue there. They then could have removed Tyler's gloves so it didn't look like Tyler was the aggressor. Maybe that's what Takeda meant by taking care of Tyler?

    Also I realized that we don't know how much Tyler actually revealed to Daniel. Could be that all Daniel knows about the Roadmap and will begin to doubt Emily and try to find answers without letting her catch on or maybe he revealed more in the time we didn't see.

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  17. magnutude16 February 2012 at 07:28

     Are you sure that Amanda actually killed Tyler? I'm not so sure that she did because it looked like the taxi that she took from the marina and Jack was tailing had just left as Jack got to the beach to find Amanda bending over the body (I didn't notice if she was holding a gun - I don't think that she was). SHe didn't get to explain anything before Jack told her to get out of there, so I'm guessing that she had discovered Tyler's body.
      Since Takedo was the one who picked Amanda up (and assuming had the keys conveniently taken), this was part of his plan to "bring Emily's plan of revenge back on course" as he gave her the present of Emily's box of secrets at the party. My guess: is since Takedo and Nolan acknowledged each other at the party before the chaos broke out, that Tyler shot Daniel once, and then either Tyler himself was shot twice by one of Nolan's security guys, or the female translator who joined Takedo and Daniel for lunch and is actually an assassin who works for Takedo, who is something of a "fixer" like the Harvey Keitel character from Pulp Fiction, and did as he said he would do: "fix" the situation for Emily. The only thing now is that Daniel is at least somewhat aware of  Emily's plans and whatever else Tyler might have told him before the shooting began.... just a guess

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  18. prpleight16 February 2012 at 08:56

    I knew the promo was setting us up.  :-)

    Tyler - master of chaos.
    Victoria - master of manipulation.

    Without much effort at all she managed to abort Daniel's plans.  He seemed really ready to call off the engagement after he was finished talking to Emma.  Though the only evidence Tyler took with him was a picture that FauxEmma can explain away.

    I liked the way they brought Tyler back.  But I couldn't really buy FauxEmma letting them drive away with that box.  Why did she leave it in the trunk?  And making her stupid enough to leave the gun in there as well...blew me out of the story.  I had to rewind and try and figure out if I'd just missed something.

    Loved Jack giving FauxAmanda reason to swing back to FauxEmma's side.

    I'm thinking FauxEmma's sensei was being literal about how he fixed her situation.  He's my current guess as to the shooter.   I replayed the shooting and picture collection scene because I wanted to know if they're were going to play with FauxEmma as the shooter.   Those were a man's hands.

    William Devane is just in his element.  Declan has finally grown on me.  I like that he's gone from trying to snag some chick he thinks is hot to being a really caring person.   His priority is Charlotte.  It's too bad that Charlotte's way of taking care of Declan is going to end up costing her big time.

    Is FauxEmma ever going come around to caring about her sister?

    The one match up that didn't work for me was the reason for FauxEmma to snap at Nolan.  I've got to rewatch the pilot...but she seemed really angry in the pilot and just mildly perturbed in this ep.

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  19. quang tran16 February 2012 at 09:00

    Tyler not being in the pilot doesn't mean anything, specially when he was originally in the pilot script made available to the Kindle users.

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  20. prpleight16 February 2012 at 09:09

    "...what court in their right mind go through with this?"

    If they do not find a gun on or near Tyler then I would think every court.  The legal system isn't allowed to excuse you killing someone unless you can prove you were in fear of your life.  It doesn't matter what kind of person they were.

    Yes, there's a lot there for a defense attorney to work with but if that gun isn't there the defense will have to prove that Tyler was planning to kill Daniel.

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  21. prpleight16 February 2012 at 09:16

    The Japanese guy was invited to the engagement party.  Though I'm not sure he found out that the box had been stolen.

    My theory is that he killed Tyler to protect Emma.  I think that's what he meant by when he told FauxEmma he was going to guide her plan back onto it's righteous path.  He also has the motive to get rid of FauxEmma's gun and the gloves Tyler was wearing.  If Amanda had killed him she wouldn't have been over his body freaking out.  We saw when she killed the security guard that she is cold in those moments.  He also has motive (i.e. protecting FauxEmma) to get Amanda out of there.  Her presence in that situation, and her involvement in the theft of the box, left her too much of a wild card.  If she got backed into a corner she might give up the truth to protect herself.

    Honestly, the gloved hand with the gun had a hairy wrist.  I really think it was a man.

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  22. the dane16 February 2012 at 09:29

    I didn´t expect Daniel to die, so it was no surprice to me that it was Tyler. The only surprice was Takeda´s envolvement. I like that. 

    I can´t see how they are gonna keep this show going for seasons on end. There is so much drama it will quickly get to much.

    But so far so good....I´m still watching. 

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  23. Felipe Sales16 February 2012 at 11:49

    Awesome!!!!!!!!!!! I knew they wouldnt kill Daniel.... why did Victoria tell him not to say a word?? Didnt understand that..

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  24. Ashwaq16 February 2012 at 12:01

    Since the question of "Is Daniel the one who was killed?" was asked from the beginning, it gave us more time to ponder about it (and doubt it as well). Anyways, I'm glad the writers didn't just depend on that angle but gave us more questions as well.. esp. Takeda's involvement! Like so many, I wasn't surprised by Tyler's comeback but I was surprised/suspicious about Amanda's behavior.

    Brilliant episode as usual. I only wish Ashley would be more active player, perhaps a second hand to Emily instead of always kept in the background..

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  25. Nerwen Aldarion16 February 2012 at 14:54

    The fact that Tyler already tried to kill Daniel and his family once before is pretty good proof. And they don't necessarily have to "prove" Tyler was planning to kill Daniel, they would just have to prove the Tyler was a credible threat to Daniel's safety.

    With Tyler's previous assault on a hospital worker and then of course the infamous birthday party, that has long since been proven. There really is no reason to be afraid that Daniel is in any danger of seriously being convicted of killing Tyler.

    As stated it would be much more compelling if Jack were the one in danger of being blamed for Tyler's murder. Yes, motive would be a problem, but since Jack can't afford a good attorney, their would be a lot more doubt in regards to him being able to fight off the charges.

    But they went this route instead. 

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  26. Nerwen Aldarion16 February 2012 at 15:01

    Interesting point on the whole Daniel might know idea, that might be the only possibility that things have actually changed but I have serious doubts in that regard. If Daniel is pretending why would he seriously do it? It's in his best interest to remember because he's being suspected of murdering Tyler.

    The truth is that Daniel is a very honest character. If he's pretending to not remember the truth about Emily than, while interesting, it doesn't really fit his personality. It is much more likely that the writers went the cliche route.

    Your points are true about Jack as well except this still really doesn't change anything from where we left off. Jack was already desperate and driven for answers. Is it interesting? Sure but it still changes very little.

    In the end it's revealed that the murder had very little to do with Emily's plans for revenge. Tyler was a dangerous soul that latched on to Daniel before she even entered the picture, only time was necessary before he would blow up and cause more chaos. Instead of taking the opportunity of either killing Daniel and/or setting up Jack for taking the fall so that Emily's plans for revenge take a major set back AND she is faced with the realization that innocent people are irrevocably damaged by this tangled web.

    Instead we are essentially back to where we started where this episode began. Her plans are still in place, the major players are still there, and the only person that has been seriously hurt is the one character that had no reason being there in the first place.

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  27. ZB16 February 2012 at 15:02

    The problem isn't the gloves. It's the jacket. Both of them were wearing white jackets, but the killer we see in the pilot is wearing a black jacket. And I doubt it was Amanda because that's cleary a man. Or at least a very hairy woman...

    The other thing is that the guy who falls on the beach is cleary Daniel. And you don't even need to pause the scene or rewatch the pilot to see it. Just a normal rewatch of the scene is sufficient. For me this show just jumped the shark.

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  28. McSwarek16 February 2012 at 15:23

     But if it was Jack who got accused, it would be considerably less scandalous. Jack is a nobody in the social and business world. What's more juicy - a rich playboy supposedly killing his lunatic friend or a no-name bartender shooting a dangerous maniac? Arguably, either case is big news because it happened during the Graysons' bash but Daniel scenario is waaaaay more exciting for the public.

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  29. McSwarek16 February 2012 at 15:38

     I certainly don't think that we're back to square one. All the characters have come a long way, they changed in ways that are very exciting and compelling to watch.
    Emily - her plan has lots of cracks now. She's not as emotionally shut off as it first appeared.
    Daniel - granted he still has that naivete about him, I think the family secrets that came to see the light of day and possibly the encounter with Tyler on the beach are going to change him. Are we going to see a darker side of him perhaps?
    Jack - straight-up guy at the beginning. Now, he's in such an emotional turmoil that he acknowledges that the Graysons have to pay. Etc.
    Emily has already achieved a lot. She's driven Conrad and Victoria apart making them fight each other, involved the queen bee in a lot of socially awkward  and humiliating situations, brought distrust between the Graysons and their children, Conrad might lose the CEO position. Daniel's arrest might seriously derail her plans but Im ready for the ride. I'm sure its going to be gripping.

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  30. McSwarek16 February 2012 at 15:39

     I agree that it was a man's hand that picked up the photo. BTW, it's Emily, not Emma. ;)

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  31. McSwarek16 February 2012 at 15:44

     What is the problem exactly with Daniel falling? He was obviously struck over the head, he had blood trickling down his ears.
    Dont see a problem with the killer wearing a black jacket either.

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  32. Candy16 February 2012 at 15:58

    I'm confused. Could someone clear something up for me. At the beginning of the episode, we see a gloved hand, presumably female, pointing a gun in what appears to be in Daninel.s direction, then we hear shots fired, and then we see Daniel falling to the ground with the Grayson Global picture in his hand. At the end of the episode, we find Tyler is the one who died, and Daniel staggers to the crowd, confused, and he is covered in blood. They made it look like Daniel gets shot, but at the end, he doesn't appear to have any bullet wounds. How is this possible? Did he get shot? Knocked out? Why was a female pointing a gun at him?

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  33. McSwarek16 February 2012 at 16:08

     The sequence was misleading but by no means clearly showing that Daniel was shot or held at a gun point - other than by Tyler of course. We heard a shot, then Daniel fell, then someone took the photo. Daniel was obviously knocked out, most probably by the killer, though I don't think it was a female whose arm we saw.

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  34. laura334116 February 2012 at 16:15

    I didn't think Daniel would die,and i suspected it would have been Tyler trying to kill him with fake Amanda,but i didn't think she would change her mind,hit Tyler then seek out Jack.
     
    What i would like to know-when fake Amanda when on the boat with Jack as she was leaving to pay the driver she hugged Jack as she left Jacks hand was full of blood.Was she shot by Tyler?I thought she was and i fully expected that by the time jack top the sand dune Amanda would be there dead.Not only isn't she dead,but was able to make it to the shoreline,run back to the car search for the key,hop in Mr.T's car all like there isn't a problem.I understand adrenaline and what it can do,but if your loosing that much blood how long before its too long?

    Honestly for all the hype leading up to "The Night" it wasn't all that great let alone awesome.I hope next weeks episode is better then this was..

    And the "gloves" maybe Jack put them on,took them.Maybe they are lying in the sand,is it that important,it was a promo people are making such a big deal about it.Then why wasn't it Daniel on the ground,that's what the promo looked like...because it was a promo,if the gloves are so important they will come into play at some point..
     

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  35. tariqq16 February 2012 at 16:37

    disapointed daniel didnt die tbh
    Episode is great but ending was a cop-out

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  36. jrenda18216 February 2012 at 17:17

    she saw the blood on him, she saw he was about to try and explain, and she said not to say a word because she doesn't want anything he would say to be used as evidence against him

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  37. Jenni Lou16 February 2012 at 18:23

     My first thought in that ending sequence was that Takeda was somehow involved in the beach mess. Unless they just brought him into the episode to create even more suspects, I definitely think he returned to to carry out a plan of some sort. Or at the very least, he's protecting Emily from Tyler's vengeance. That's the beauty of the show though, I guess. So many many ways to think about things....

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  38. Benny K16 February 2012 at 20:37

    People, what your forgetting is that there were THREE gun shots but tyler had ONLY TWO on his back!! Where is the third??? Plus i dont think it was fake amanda who shot tyler because she looked terrifed, and if u recall, she's pretty cold when revenging (Rembr the way she killed Frank) so it brings us down to either daniel or the asian guy!!! i really donbt think it was daniel coz the charachter they potrayed of him was 'the nice humble' guy so it leaves us with the asian. And this asian knew about soooo much!!! he came to the party uninvited, he knew where the box was (so he must have grabbed it from tyler) and he appeared at the right time to give fake amanda a ride (so he must have taken out the keys somehow)

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  39. NinjaPixie16 February 2012 at 21:18

    I hope no one forgets about Charlotte, since they will all be wrapped around on how to "fix" what Daniel did. If they forget about her then that means less people will try to help her with her soon-to-be drug problem…her grandfather is an ass. I don't like to watch druggie like story lines, hopefully they could at least use her storyline for some "sisterly" bonding with Emily.

    I really wished they killed Daniel off.

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  40. MeatyStakes16 February 2012 at 22:26

    Definetely Takeda is trying to put Emily back on track. How much Daniel knows now? That diagonal blood splatter in his chest is weird.

    Amanda just keep prancing around getting herself into trouble, my guess is that Takeda is going to take care of her. I have the suspicion that Daniel learnt everything, and he might side with Emily, that would be awesome.

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  41. WolfTvAddict16 February 2012 at 23:42

    I don't think that it would necessarily be out of character for Daniel to keep what Tyler told him about Emily out of a police investigation if he remembers. Yes he's an honest character, but he could come up with many excuses with why Tyler attacked him. You have to remember that we don't know at this point if Tyler revealed any more to him than the roadmap or not. He might not necessarily know that Emily is Amanda Clark.

    The writers might be intending to make him dig for answers. All he might know at this point is that she's been keeping secrets from him (the one thing he's repeatedly asked her not to do-leaving him feeling betrayed). Plus he's got to wonder why she wouldn't run away to Paris with him. He's going to want to find the truth for himself before he reveals what he knows. He probably has doubts.

    And as for Jack, yes he was desperate and driven for answers in regard to the Amanda Clark he knew in this time-frame. Now he's going to suspect that he might be able to get answers possibly from Emily or Daniel leading him closer to the truth of who the REAL Amanda Clark is.

    Also seems as if the murder was a frame for Daniel. If you look closely at the small details they add up. Daniel had blood coming out of his ears indicating someone hit him over the head (and would explain his collapse in the beginning of the episode). There were three gun shots, but Tyler only had one (possibly two gun shot wounds) visible. Tyler's gloves were removed, which would make it look less like Daniel was acting in self defense.

    My guess is whoever framed him made sure that there were more details that made it look more like murder and less like self defense.
     

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  42. prpleight17 February 2012 at 01:00

    I have to admit, after the pilot,  I was expecting Jack to be the one on.

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  43. prpleight17 February 2012 at 01:01

    Brain fart thy name is ME!  how many times did I do that last night?

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  44. C17 February 2012 at 01:57

    it's gotta be either takeda or grandpa who fired the 2 shots to tyler's back

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  45. Shaakira Abdul Samad18 February 2012 at 21:53

    Wow, awesome episode. my theory  that Tyler was who had the box turn good. now what is next. the master of Emily have to something to do in all this i think.

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  46. wily519 February 2012 at 17:44

    Exactly, three shots were heard. First shot goes in Tyler's chest (go to the original pilot and view the body falling to the beach, note the left hand on the chest as he falls) the remaining two shots are into Tyler's back.  Only question, who fired first shot?  Daniel ? Could be Daniel has taken the gun from Tyler in someway, they wrestle with one another,shot fired, Daniel on top of Tyler,(accounts for blood on him),Daniel rendered unconscience by mystery person,who fires the remaining shots into Tyler making sure he's done and most certainly implicating Daniel.

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  47. McSwarek20 February 2012 at 20:09

     Grandpa would not cause a scandal during his grandson's engagement party.

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