With Torchwood’s shift towards America in both location and characters this year, there are some fans who feel that the show has lost its “Britishness” and become Torchwood in name only.
However, despite the changes, John Barrowman still thinks the show remains true to its British roots.
It's like Torchwood wants to become 24 with Aliens and the Paranormal the problem is Davies doesn't know how to get there and he's just overplaying to what he thinks is American.
I disagree with John, I think Torchwood is too much American. And to me they show USA like the best thing in the world like all the other TV show from United States.
I think they lost the uniquely British quirkiness it had in common with Doctor Who and shows of that ilk last season, but the overall quality greatly improved. Not because it's "more American", but because the show started to take itself seriously instead of chasing rubber headed aliens
This season is little different from their last series Children of Earth and that was 100% production. So I agree with MR. Barrowman.
I'm confused. Which part do you think is them showing USA as "like the best thing in the world"? The big pharmaceutical companies controlling the government?The mindless sheeple worshiping at a pedophile murderer's altar?The way the FBI agents are double crossing one another left and right?Or is it the way the government was covering up everything?I would say the majority of the series thus far has been negative if biased whatsoever (and I don't think it has been)... but honestly I would hardly notice or care either way since it is entertainment and not a news program.
Don't get me wrong. I don't think RTD and Torchwood is "going after" the US but, by the same token, I can't understand someone perception that the show has a pro-US agenda.
I think people's staunchly pro-British advocacy of the show and maybe their dissatisfaction of Miracle Day has left some people looking for scapegoats.
I think it's just lost too much of what was great about it originally. It may have great new writers and higher budgets but most of the season has been set in America, there's only two of the original team remaining (and only one is British).. I'm enjoying this season but it does feel like something's missing.
Barrowman is a Scot... technically. Born there... just not raised there, but he does have a home or two in the UK.
Regardless, I have a hard time thinking of him as anything but American too.
I agree about something missing. For me I think it's the slow moving plot. The feel is not so different than CoE, but the tension is just not there nearly as much with double the episodes.
The character is American though, so it counts! It feels like they're stretching the story out too much with twice as many episodes as CofE, and now we're at the halfway point but there's been no real info on what MD is all about.
I don't think its lost its Brit-driven ways... honestly, it just has a bigger budget now. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE the BBC, but the "grit" is really just less money to spend on gloss.
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I wouldn't say it's become American more like "Trying to act American without any idea what that means".
ReplyDeleteYeah it makes me think of when Doctor Who comes to the US. It's all cowboy hats and guns lol.
ReplyDeleteIt's like Torchwood wants to become 24 with Aliens and the Paranormal the problem is Davies doesn't know how to get there and he's just overplaying to what he thinks is American.
ReplyDeleteI disagree with John, I think Torchwood is too much American. And to me they show USA like the best thing in the world like all the other TV show from United States.
ReplyDeleteI just wish they'd stay out of American politics, which they obviously know nothing about.
ReplyDeleteI like the relationship between Gwen and Ester, the way Gwen says something, eg "Crisps" and Ester will say "We call them chips."
ReplyDeleteI think they lost the uniquely British quirkiness it had in common with Doctor Who and shows of that ilk last season, but the overall quality greatly improved. Not because it's "more American", but because the show started to take itself seriously instead of chasing rubber headed aliens
ReplyDeleteThis season is little different from their last series Children of Earth and that was 100% production. So I agree with MR. Barrowman.
Hmm I don't know I'll have to watch it to judge that
ReplyDeleteI'm confused. Which part do you think is them showing USA as "like the best thing in the world"?
ReplyDeleteThe big pharmaceutical companies controlling the government?The mindless sheeple worshiping at a pedophile murderer's altar?The way the FBI agents are double crossing one another left and right?Or is it the way the government was covering up everything?I would say the majority of the series thus far has been negative if biased whatsoever (and I don't think it has been)... but honestly I would hardly notice or care either way since it is entertainment and not a news program.
Well said. Besides Gwen's appreciation for California weather and scenery, I can't think of one positive portrayal of the United States on this show.
ReplyDeleteYeah I really didn't see it as negative either frankly. It was not about political agenda as much as plot necessity to me.
ReplyDeleteDon't get me wrong. I don't think RTD and Torchwood is "going after" the US but, by the same token, I can't understand someone perception that the show has a pro-US agenda.
ReplyDeleteI think people's staunchly pro-British advocacy of the show and maybe their dissatisfaction of Miracle Day has left some people looking for scapegoats.
I think it's just lost too much of what was great about it originally. It may have great new writers and higher budgets but most of the season has been set in America, there's only two of the original team remaining (and only one is British).. I'm enjoying this season but it does feel like something's missing.
ReplyDeleteBarrowman is a Scot... technically.
ReplyDeleteBorn there... just not raised there, but he does have a home or two in the UK.
Regardless, I have a hard time thinking of him as anything but American too.
I agree about something missing. For me I think it's the slow moving plot. The feel is not so different than CoE, but the tension is just not there nearly as much with double the episodes.
The character is American though, so it counts!
ReplyDeleteIt feels like they're stretching the story out too much with twice as many episodes as CofE, and now we're at the halfway point but there's been no real info on what MD is all about.
The character is from outer space and from the 51st century. We have no idea wether he is "American" or anything else. ;)
ReplyDeleteI don't think it's lost its Britishness. It feels very much like a British show in an american setting, at least to me.
ReplyDeletePfft. Ok, let's just say Gwen is the only one of the team without an American accent and leave it at that? :)
ReplyDeleteI don't think its lost its Brit-driven ways... honestly, it just has a bigger budget now. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE the BBC, but the "grit" is really just less money to spend on gloss.
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