*The most game changing moment will be in the promo shown in next comic con.
*But I will say that there are things happening in the episodes that we are filming right now that are going to alter Oliver and Diggle’s relationship, Oliver and John’s relationship, forever. - NOOOOOO WTH?
*SA is going to get a haircut on tuesday for the role. - Why? What?
*They are going to retire a set which is frequently used - Bye Bye Foundry!!!
*Floyd Lawton flashbacks - Could we be seeing Andy Diggle dying?
*3x20 - takes place in Nanda Parbat - Well we already predicted that.
*Lazarus pit exists on the show. That is all he is going to say about it. - Someone is going to be LP'd
I predict Team Arrow will be dismantled at the end of the season. I am sad even writing that. But on the other hand this will help with the continuity issue we had the beginning of this season.
- The greatest moment in the history of the show will be in the trailer shown in the comic con next year" It will have something to do with the season finale cliffhanger and I'm terrified.
- "But I will say that there are things happening in the episodes that we are filming right now that are going to alter Oliver and Diggle’s relationship, Oliver and John’s relationship, forever." NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NO NO NO DON'T YOU DARE RUIN THEIR BROTHERHOOD I WILL NEVER FORGIVE YOU. What if Oliver has something to do with Andy's death??!!!
- "SA is going to get a haircut on Tuesday for the role." Why would he need a new haircut? Even if he joined the league he wouldn't need to shave or something.
- "They are going to retire a set which is frequently used" I know I've been saying that they need to change the foundry because it's ridiculous that they are still using it but it's hard to let the foundry go :(
- "Floyd Lawton flashbacks" I'd like that very much but if it's related to Andy's death it will hurt A LOT.
- "3x20 - takes place in Nanda Parbat" We already knew that. The question is why is everyone there even Thea but not Laurel and Roy?
- "Lazarus pit exists on the show. That is all he is going to say about it." and we're back to the 3x18 theory.
There is an ominous feel to it all doesn't it? Especially with Oliver and John's relationship changing. Colton said in an interview yesterday Roy will question his role on the team and whether he will be able to do it alone by the end of this season. Which makes me think if Roy survives he might want to go his separate way. I am going to miss the foundry.
Yeah I don't like where this is going. Actually Colton also said that we will know more about Roy's background later on the season and next season as well. He could be misleading us or he will survive.
Oliver and Roy having a falling out and separating would be very much in line with the comics, they didn't see each other or talk for many years while he was Arsenal (between being GA's sidekick Speedy and going full Red Arrow).
Yes, if he's not outright dying. A knock down, drag out fight and a "F you, I'm going my own way" could happen. Would leave room for Thea to take the sidekick spot, perhaps.
I don't remember that but I expect anything from these people. The whole time I was watching the PaleyFest panel I kept thinking one of you is probably dead. Who is it? And it must be cruel for them to be there.
They never said that a series regular is going to die. In fact when Stephen mentioned the tweet in his video with Paul he said a goodbye scene again he didn't say death. Marc could be trolling and the "someone is dying" is an irrelevant character maybe a criminal or something. In fact he could be talking about the foundry or the fern, you know he's a troll and I wouldn't put it past him. He could also be talking about Maseo's son. Maybe the goodbye scene and the death are not connected.
Agreed. I always expected her to be Speedy. I don't like Colton's acting and I am not that attached to Roy but the thought of him leaving makes me sad. I will miss his flips.
Even I don't think Roy will die. But the photo Stephen posted of all 3 of them in costumes being the last time makes me think he will leave to be on his own. We know Laurel is not going anywhere so it has to be Roy.
Oh yes. It was so funny. As much as I like Roy I never liked his fighting scenes. There was an artificiality to it. The way he climbed or jumped you can clearly see it is the wire work. Thea's action scenes are so much better.
Thea/Oliver relationship has always been my favorite after Oliver/John relationship. It will be fun to see them in a different set up. IMO they should send Diggle as ARGUS head or undercover in HIVE next season. The character deserves a dedicated arc for himself. Thea, Oliver and Laurel can manage the missions with Felicity's help.
I'm all for kicking that bitch Waller out of office. But why not be progressive, let Lyla take over and Diggle can take her old job as tactical/ops supervisor with ocational field work.
As much as I would love to see Green Arrow and Black Canary together on the streets, Laurel is in dire need of training and mental dicipline. But there's a 5 month summer hiatus coming up where they can hopefully work on that.
Joker and Lantern are kinda locked into the movie side of things. Joker is in Suicide Squad and they're planning a Green Lantern reboot with Chris Pine.
Besides they already have the Joker in a way over on Flash. Don't tell me Mark Hamill won't be channeling some of his old character into the Trickster.
I hope no new big hero comes to the show anytime soon. They need to establish new team dynamics next season first half. It's all a mess right now. A season long big villain. Yes.
I liked his synchronized fighting scenes with Oliver but when he's on his own it was too much and I didn't like it too. Actually I think Thea's scenes are a little sloppy because it's so obvious that it's her stunt double and they feel kind of disoriented, at least to me.
I don't mind Lyla being Diggle's boss. That will be awesome and she deserves it. This way John can be more hands on on missions or can even share missions with Team Arrow.
That is why I think the team as a whole will be disbanded at the end of this year. Roy will go his way. Diggle will take ARGUS job, Laurel will go with Nyssa to get training, Felicity might leave with Ray for a while and come back in next season premiere, Thea and Oliver might take a vacation. I have no idea what Thea and Oliver will do. Last season team was at a high when the season ended. This season it could be the opposite. Then next season premiere Oliver will make the new lair and call all of them to become a team once again.
That's baby Joker. I don't think what is shown in Gotham actually affects Arrow/Flash universe. Gotham feels like it is in a different time line. Its the movie verse that affects the use of characters on Arrow.
I have heard complaints about Thea's fighting scenes before. But it was never obvious to me till now. Then again I didn't even notice Ra's al Ghul's body double in that fight scene.
Yes, I agree. No more stunt DC characters for spin-offs. Focus on developing whatever form the team will take in the future (Oliver with just ladies Laurel/Thea/Felicity could be really funny)
Hey Quentin could balance out the estrogen in the foundry. But you are right that would be very funny. He will loose all the arguments. Ladies will band against him. LOL
Nah I saw it in the second watch but not the first time. It needs to be really obvious like Roy's case for me to see flaws in fighting scenes. I am blessed like that. On second watch I always pick up extras. I did notice Thea's extra in the first watch in the Corto Maltese episode last fight scene with Malcolm.
I think that if they even dare to allude Felicity leaving it would be in 3x16, 3x17 or 3x18. They won't do it in the last episodes of the season. Specially if they're shaking things up between Oliver and Diggle, Oliver needs somebody by his side, to take both of them away from him it would be cruel.
We'll have to wait and see. I don't even think they let the season go without introducing any new "good" boy/girl DC character. I just hope it will be more tolerable than Brandon Routh as Ray Palmer.
Green Lantern is one of my personal favorites since they mentioned Oliver and flying. So they could introduce a without power Hal Jordan to charm the girls a bit.
I new big villain is secure, I just don't know from which universe they can steal.
But he will have Thea. The thing is if Oliver and Felicity is going to become an item in the future I would rather it happen in next season. Let her be with someone else for a period of time. I don't want to see them getting together at the end of the season and then see a completely different dynamic after 5 months next season. I don't want to read comics to know how their relationship evolved. I'd rather see it on screen. So best part send Felicity away with Palmer.
The Flash is getting a standalone movie and has a show so I don't think that is a real problem. As far as rumors go I think GL is supposed to be African American and play the John Stewart character. I want them to introduce a no power-upped Hal Jordan, to be part of Ollie's past as an flying instructor.
Agree. They pushed things a bit to far this year. I think making Thea a hero, no matter how much I enjoy her development is just to big of a push. Why does everyone in his life to go and get a hoody fetish.
Exactly. They can show us Nyssa and Laurel going to missions, Diggle doing ARGUS missions, Felicity and Ray setting up shop some other city, Roy will be mia or they can do tie in comics stuff for his adventures.
I surely think so. I hope they get more character focused than comic universe focused. They pushed some big stories this season just to introduce Ra's and that universe.
Looking at the trailer it will pay off in a big way, but it was a shaky shaky road.
Even if they introduce some one I hope they do it in the second half and let him/her be already masked. I don't want another hero origin story any time soon.
No origin stories or if they don't have powers at that moment get them in a flash of light when they leave the show. Something like Barry in 2x09, but without returning.
Ray's story isn't even that bad, but he is annoying as s*it. terrible and I'm more or less a BR fan. The forced Raylicity sex, the annoying lines. Terrible.
I like him because I am ready to selectively view his character. Like I ignore the problematic aspects of his character. Since I love Felicity I ignore Felicity being shallow too. So all I see is he is loving towards Felicity, gave her a good job, she likes him very much and has fun with him.
Every hero has to leave their lady love in bed sleeping to attain their hero destiny. LOL. It's in the comic book hero code. LOL. Even if I forget all the character problems of Ray Palmer his journey and relationship with Felicity was really boring and cliched. The relationship as well might last a bit long off screen. Or else what was the need for this circus?
I can't ignore his those aspects of his character and I can't ignore how shallow and insensitive (being so happy about erasing Oliver's family name from the company) Felicity is around him.
IKR? 15 episodes of him only interacting with Felicity!!! And now out of the blue he is officiating the wedding of two people he's never met before hahahaha
But if Felicity turns her back on him again they'll never move forward, this is so frustrating! For me it would be nice if they mended their friendship and trusted each other again, so if she sticks by his side it would be a great improvement (that's wishful thinking on my part). I don't think they'll be an item this season, but I do think something is going to happen between them in 3x20 (hence all the clues Stephen gave this weekend) and I think Ray's going to be history (romantically).
Shallow yes!! But insensitive no. She was with Oliver in every step to get his company back. But at the first hurdle what did he do he just gave up and said it is better this way. Why shouldn't Felicity be happy at her new job?
Didn't heard/read the confirmation for Chris Pine playing Green Lantern. I like him. That would maybe/certainly exclude the GL appearance. But if they went Ra's don't think Joker would be a problem. But I still hope they focus on a possible HIVE storyline. But we'll see what they have in store for us.
I didn't say she shouldn't be happy at her job but she shouldn't act so excited about erasing Oliver's family legacy so publicly. Even if he gave up on the company of course it still hurt him to see that! Remember he said that the company is his family and when he gave it up in the premiere it was because he was defeated and he thought the company would be better off under Ray's management not because he suddenly decided that he didn't care.
Okay another scenario. Ray and Felicity will split up. Oliver and Felicity will accept their feelings in 3x20. Felicity does not want to start a relationship with Oliver. Once burned twice shy scenario and she leaves Starling but is in a good place with Oliver. 5 months later she comes back in the premiere.
Or another one
Starling City police is still hunting Arrow. So Oliver has to be on the run with Thea. Diggle decides to take refuge in ARGUS, Laurel leaves with Nyssa, Felicity moves to a new city with Palmer as friends as he offers her a job. Roy cuts loose few episodes before and is MIA.
I agree it was difficult to see because poor Oliver but I didn't see it as a strike against Oliver from Felicity's side at all. But that combined with her ogling Ray on Salmon ladder, dress, necklace and that weird speech I kind of disliked Felicity that episode.
Actually Ray going after Oliver might be the most comedic thing that has happened this season after Laurel thinking she could stand a chance against Malcolm.
Maybe she didn't do it on purpose but the fact that she didn't even think of Oliver's feeling at all hurt me. I kind of hated her in that episode, she was so OOC it was like watching another character. I know Oliver was jealous in this episode but it wasn't all jealousy especially the last scene when he hit the table. He was hurt and angry, mostly at himself for letting go of the company and Felicity.
Not sure what to think of all the hype they are putting into the upcoming storylines. I mean if you don't delve into spoilers they are surprising. The only thing that would surprise if Oliver says yes to Ra's....
Even with all the spoilers we actually have no clue what is going to happen. Only that foundry will be compromised and there will be a task force against Oliver. Ray and Quentin will hunt him. I am still confused about what role Malcolm will play in all this mess. Do you think Oliver will say yes to Ra's? That will be really surprising for me. A hero wanting to head LoA!! I hope if he says yes its because his arm is twisted and he is doing it to save someone.
I actually don't think Ray's going to go after him - that seems like tricky editing to make us believe that he is. All we know for sure from that clip is that Ray knows that Oliver's the Arrow - the "what are you going to do?" was a cutaway, and the "I'm going to get him," was a voiceover, so I think they'll ultimately be unrelated, or IF Ray does get it in his head to go after the Arrow (why would he at this point? Isn't Ray trying to emulate Arrow to a certain extent?), I think it'll be short-lived and Felicity will talk him out of it.
It's essay time! I honestly have no idea whatsoever about what's going down on those last episodes, things that I suspect: - Oliver is going to be framed and that's why Quentin is going after him. Add the fact that Oliver lied about Sara and also his alliance with Malcolm. - They'll have to leave Starling, but not Ray Palmer.. he's gonna stay and protect Starling City. - Nyssa is going to flip about Oliver being asked to be the new Ra's Al Ghul, Laurel is going to help her with her vengeance against Malcolm but she won't comply if Nyssa goes after Oliver (someone mentioned Laurel doing something heroic regarding Oliver, I think it is standing up to Quentin or Nyssa) - SA said that the offer is not really an offer, it's a demand, so if he declines there will be repercussions. Maybe Nyssa and Oliver can form an alliance against the Ra's. He refuses the post and Nyssa claims it after a lot of violence. - Felicity is not going to be happy about Ray going after Oliver. The fact that she continued his mission after he "died" and the whole Malcolm Merlyn debacle say something about her loyalty, so they'll split over that. Felicity will probably have some epiphany about Ray not being Oliver (duh!) and the fact that even if she tries to move on she can't (blame it on all the fanfiction I've read, haha). - Stephen mentioned that Oliver will do some things differently in 3x20, and AK said that he'll start questioning if it was a good idea to push Felicity away, so I think that he'll decide to fight for her, culminating in a great Olicity scene in 3x20 (Felicity declaring her feelings, maybe?), still don't think they'll be together, as you said, they'll acknowledge the mutual feelings and will rebuild the trust and the friendship they had. - I have no idea where Roy and Thea fits in all this, to be honest, but I think Thea's desire to make Malcolm pay is what's causing a death. Like Malcolm dying to prove that he love's her or Roy being caught in the crossfire. That could be a turning point for her, so she decides to be a hero also.
With all that said and considering there'll be another spin off I think Felicity is staying in Starling and ruling QC/Palmer Tech. Laurel will probably find a trainer but I don't think is going to be Nyssa, I think Nyssa is gonna be busy with the League. Diggle being with Argus makes sense, Roy is dead and Thea and Oliver are somewhere being badasses. Olicity will be on the backburner and will make a comeback in season 4.
I'm terrible theorizing things and english is not my first language, so I hope what I wrote made some sense, haha.
I said that too. It doesn't make sense for Ray to go after Oliver. He might be suspicious of Oliver for some crime but I have a feeling he will accept Felicity's judgement.
This is a good theory. Works for me. I just don't want any significant development to happen in the hiatus.
I am still not on board with Ray going after Arrow. I think that is a clever editing there. There is no reason for Ray to go against Arrow. Even if Oliver is found guilty for something Felicity will talk him down. That talk will make Palmer realize Felicity is in love with Oliver duh! and then bam split. Relationship or not Oliver/Felicity are going to accept their feelings in 3x20. That is for sure. We have enough clues to know that.
Laurel being with Nyssa and then going against her for Oliver's sake will be nice to see. But I think Laurel is going to go against her father for Oliver.
Now be good girl and say with me "Roy is not dying. He is going to leave Starling City" 5 times.
I think Thea will go with the team to Nanda Parbat to protect Oliver. And Malcolm will go with them to protect Thea.
Felicity staying behind running QC would be awesome. So you think Laurel will get a new trainer? Who can that be? Will they be introduced this season? Or will it be the newly revived Sara, Katana, or magical Shado? I just want the team to be disbanded so that we don't feel why, when did this happen, feeling from season premiere.
I am terrible at theorizing too. Only a handful of my theories have ever come true in Arrow. Usually I am dead wrong.
Maybe he will say yes because he has no option and he has a plan to get out o it?!?!? It's just they have hyped so many twists and while they were wow they never lived up to the hype cause people were already going throug the theories, so that would be a huge "the show will never be the same" moment. Maybe in 3x20 he brings in the team on the LOA and Diggle disagrees and goes back to ARGUS and thus the relationship will be altered for ever.
It was a very interesting read. I think some of it will come true. " Felicity will probably have some epiphany about Ray not being Oliver (duh!) and the fact that even if she tries to move on she can't (blame it on all the fanfiction I've read, haha)." hahahahaha right there with you lol
I think he might say yes eventually. Stephen said in an interview that Ra's will tell him that the league will do anything he says so if he tells them to stop killing, they will. That might make him consider accepting the offer especially when he feels that he has nothing left in Starling.
Oliver has fulfilled that code with Laurel, and the other part with Felicity where heroes must overreact to danger and push people away. Lol. Wonder when Barry is gonna do that.
If Dig is OK with Lyla killing people for a living (I know that they are bad people but still killing is killing and it's basically the same thing the league is doing) then why would the league be a problem for him? He did? When?
Why did you do this?!!!!! :\ you ruined the thread :@ We had a thing going, there was only one original comment and the rest were replies to that comment.
well probably because ARGUS is theoratically a black ops sanctioned organisation and the LOA is moraly indipendant. ARGUS is maybe the same but they excuse themselves with govermental structures. Maybe realizing ARGUS and LOA are not that much different is part of Diggles journey!?!?! (grasping at straws)
Wow really? I didn't scroll down, I just saw the big number under the topic. I think I'll watch the Vid later, I'm actually very tired. (Didn't get much sleep last night).
I do believe you, I have been reading the comments section and following the discussion (don't always have time to comment myself). I just found his storyline very boring....
Considering the major complaint about Olicity in 3x01 was that Oliver's feelings were out of nowhere, I think they need to seriously reevaluate showing important things only on the comics. They should use the comics to develop villains, to show more glimpses of characters that we don't usually see (like they're doing with Helena and the Suicide Squad). About Ray x Oliver, they did film a confrontation didn't they? But I agree, even if he doesn't go after Oliver, he'll probably notice Felicity's feelings, assuming she'll try to stop him. 3x20 is going to be an angst fest! MG said that it's more emotional than the episodes where Moira and Tommy died. I'm only saying Laurel is getting a new trainer because the eps said she would after the whole Wildcat fiasco. If it's someone we already know it will probably be set up this season, if it is someone new I think next season. The only reason I don't want Nyssa training her is because I don't want her to follow Sara's exact same path. She needs her own thing. I don't want Roy to die, but I'm intrigued that Colton is not shooting 3x20 apparently. He could be LP'd, but shouldn't him be shooting if that's the case? I'm pissed I'm studying at nights and won't be able to watch it simultaneously but wednesday can't come soon enough!
I read that oliver is sideline against a metahuman? And TA trying to stop it. I wonder if they still unofficially fighting crime or the task force is over.....it would too much if a risk when police will be looking for roy and laurel too
I'm at a friend's house, and her WiFi for w/e reason is giving me a crap load of problems, getting weak signal at her house, which is odd b/c I get great service everywhere! Anyways, that was nice of her, BUT I prefer to watch the videos. I need to see my baby's face. Lol = p
My theory is death that MG spoiled will be that of Akio and the emotional scene that involves Roy and Oliver is Roy cutting ties with the team and moving away from Starling City. It could be because of a fight with Oliver or because SCPD considers him Arrow and a fugitive.
What Stephen said was if he becomes next Ra's he will have complete power on league and he can ask them to stop killing. Now the question is what about the period until the original Ra's dies and Oliver gets the power. Can you imagine this Ra's accepting Oliver's no killing rule while he is in power? No imo if Oliver accepts the offer it will be because his arm is twisted and he has no other choice what so ever.
People had trouble digesting the increased closeness between Oliver and Felicity in season 3 premiere. For some in the audience they couldn't understand when Oliver fell in love with Felicity. That was because of the time jump and it ruined the premiere for a lot of people. I don't want same scenario happening next season
They cannot have a time jump as soon as Oliver/Felicity decide to get together and show them as a happy couple 5 months later. They need to show Oliver struggling to be in a relationship and they will have struggles in the beginning. MG and crew are simply using poor Olicity shippers for their comic book sale.
The confrontation scene is in ep.17 when Ray first takes flight. That may not mean Ray is against Oliver. It looked from photos Ray is happily revealing himself to Arrow. Ray will definitely notice Felicity's involvement by her concern for Oliver. MG said 3x20 is more emotional then I am scared. His emotional, epic, cool, emmy worthy and mine are never the same.
I am all for new trainer for Laurel. But there is no time now in this season to introduce a new character. And she needs training badly in this 5 months hiatus. May be we will see Laurel training with new person when season 4 begins and they will say through exposition she was training all this time.
I don't think Roy will be LP'd. Since we have this photo of Lance arresting Roy I get a feeling Oliver breaks him out of prison and Roys goes away from Starling because he is a wanted criminal now.
I am so glad we have only one break in the coming weeks. I can't wait.
It's Guggentroll he would take a minuscule sentence and give it out as a dialogue tease. He lives for confusing his audience with spoilers. I don't trust even one word coming out of his mouth especially spoilers. Now SA I believe implicitly. He never twist facts. CH on the other hand is as good as MG in teasing audience. I hope Roy is not dead.
Agree. I have a feeling Ollie will also see a vision of his father too, much like in "Legacies" and get into conversation of how he can do so much more on both sides of the front.
That wasn't an insult. I actually love Routh in the role. Unlike his okay turn as Supes, and his bland role as Shaw in Chuck (awesome as a villain though). Also loved him in Scott Pilgrim.
well at least they unofficially confirm we see comic con in July? It clear if there is some season 4 that already planned ahead of time. This probably means there is a cliffhanger
I was never a BR fan. I liked him in supes well enough but the movie was so long. I was surprised I really liked him as Ray in Arrow. Even with all the "stalking" and self absorption in earlier episodes he has a lot of charm. I think he will do well in the new show. The problem with Arrow was sometimes it felt like he and Felicity was part of another show unless Felicity was badgering Ray because of her feelings for Oliver. Ep.5 is my favorite for Ray in this season. He fit well with Felicity's story.
You convinced me, Roy's not in Nanda Parbat because he's in Starling with Laurel and the creep with the suit keeping things in check. Felicity is the one who dies, their declaration is right before she passes away in the plane and they LP her. I just remembered MG said that 3x20 is extremely good AND extremely bad for Olicity. So yeah, I think she dies.
I think it's going to happen in the end of the season. Ray's focus has been on the exo-suit, but that'll be resolved most likely by the end of the season. Starling City is rebranded as Star City right before it's attacked by the League of Assassins, lol.
I don't want it either, but what could happen between them that's going to be extremely bad? I mean, what could be worst than what already happened? A bomb exploded on their first date, then Sara died, then he died, then she slept with someone else... what's gonna happen now? Is he going to sleep with her sister? lol... I'm confused.
Or he is really sad about everyone turning against him and is at his lowest point and they have an emotional conversation. Who knows. I can never understand what MG means most of the time.
a new GA costumn again........perhaps his old is destroyed or because he can't use the suit because it already been used by league to set him up so using it would remind people of the bad things
That's what I thought. A new beginning a new costume. He has been wearing Yao Fei's hood to honor all the people who died in his life. It's like Oliver always felt he has a debt to pay. Now may be in season 4 he will be ready to let the hood go and embrace the identity and mission for himself.
I don't think the hood will be abandon but maybe he going sleeveless or something closer to his comic counterpart.....I think YJ GA suit would be great..do we know when we see this new GA perhaps after episode 20?
Please no sleeveless. I usually can't take heroes with no sleeves seriously. Unless it is Thor. That guns!!! Even he is confused in the movies whether to have sleeves or not. May be a suit lighter in color like the comics. Honestly I love the current costume a lot. It is very functional.
That's the kind of thinking Ray has, but Star City better be attacked by villains too. It can't just be a cliche for Starling City. No name change should keep away the idea of having villains attack the city.
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I am really scared after watching this panel.
ReplyDelete*The most game changing moment will be in the promo shown in next comic con.
*But I will say that there are things happening in the episodes that we are filming right now that are going to alter Oliver and Diggle’s relationship, Oliver and John’s relationship, forever. - NOOOOOO WTH?
*SA is going to get a haircut on tuesday for the role. - Why? What?
*They are going to retire a set which is frequently used - Bye Bye Foundry!!!
*Floyd Lawton flashbacks - Could we be seeing Andy Diggle dying?
*3x20 - takes place in Nanda Parbat - Well we already predicted that.
*Lazarus pit exists on the show. That is all he is going to say about it. - Someone is going to be LP'd
I predict Team Arrow will be dismantled at the end of the season. I am sad even writing that. But on the other hand this will help with the continuity issue we had the beginning of this season.
- The greatest moment in the history of the show will be in the trailer shown in the comic con next year" It will have something to do with the season finale cliffhanger and I'm terrified.
ReplyDelete- "But I will say that there are things happening in the episodes that we are filming right now that are going to alter Oliver and Diggle’s relationship, Oliver and John’s relationship, forever." NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NO NO NO DON'T YOU DARE RUIN THEIR BROTHERHOOD I WILL NEVER FORGIVE YOU. What if Oliver has something to do with Andy's death??!!!
- "SA is going to get a haircut on Tuesday for the role." Why would he need a new haircut? Even if he joined the league he wouldn't need to shave or something.
- "They are going to retire a set which is frequently used" I know I've been saying that they need to change the foundry because it's ridiculous that they are still using it but it's hard to let the foundry go :(
- "Floyd Lawton flashbacks" I'd like that very much but if it's related to Andy's death it will hurt A LOT.
- "3x20 - takes place in Nanda Parbat" We already knew that. The question is why is everyone there even Thea but not Laurel and Roy?
- "Lazarus pit exists on the show. That is all he is going to say about it." and we're back to the 3x18 theory.
I afraid, very very afraid....
There is an ominous feel to it all doesn't it? Especially with Oliver and John's relationship changing. Colton said in an interview yesterday Roy will question his role on the team and whether he will be able to do it alone by the end of this season. Which makes me think if Roy survives he might want to go his separate way. I am going to miss the foundry.
ReplyDeleteYeah I don't like where this is going. Actually Colton also said that we will know more about Roy's background later on the season and next season as well. He could be misleading us or he will survive.
ReplyDeleteOliver and Roy having a falling out and separating would be very much in line with the comics, they didn't see each other or talk for many years while he was Arsenal (between being GA's sidekick Speedy and going full Red Arrow).
ReplyDeleteEither can happen. Remember him saying Roy will have a great scene with Sara in episode 3. The troll.
ReplyDeleteI have a feeling that is where they are taking this.
ReplyDeleteYes, if he's not outright dying. A knock down, drag out fight and a "F you, I'm going my own way" could happen. Would leave room for Thea to take the sidekick spot, perhaps.
ReplyDeleteI don't remember that but I expect anything from these people. The whole time I was watching the PaleyFest panel I kept thinking one of you is probably dead. Who is it? And it must be cruel for them to be there.
ReplyDeleteStephen said Thea is moving the speedy way as a comment in this panel. So I guess we can expect some kind of goodbye from Roy.
ReplyDeleteRemember CL attended SDCC after shooting her death scene and her lying dead on the table. So anything can happen.
ReplyDeleteThea was always destined for the Speedy role, there's been way too much reference to the fact that she's a version of Mia Dearden since the premiere.
ReplyDeleteThey never said that a series regular is going to die. In fact when Stephen mentioned the tweet in his video with Paul he said a goodbye scene again he didn't say death. Marc could be trolling and the "someone is dying" is an irrelevant character maybe a criminal or something. In fact he could be talking about the foundry or the fern, you know he's a troll and I wouldn't put it past him. He could also be talking about Maseo's son. Maybe the goodbye scene and the death are not connected.
ReplyDeleteAgreed. I always expected her to be Speedy. I don't like Colton's acting and I am not that attached to Roy but the thought of him leaving makes me sad. I will miss his flips.
ReplyDeleteYeah I remembered CL too.
ReplyDeletePlus I kinda like the dynamic of a brother/sister vigilante duo. It's a step away from all these adopted wards that are so damn popular in the comics.
ReplyDeleteEven I don't think Roy will die. But the photo Stephen posted of all 3 of them in costumes being the last time makes me think he will leave to be on his own. We know Laurel is not going anywhere so it has to be Roy.
ReplyDeleteThose out-of-nowhere flips are the only thing I won't miss lol Did you see the gifset of him flipping with the tag "unnecessary parkour time" lol
ReplyDeleteAgreed
ReplyDeleteOh yes. It was so funny. As much as I like Roy I never liked his fighting scenes. There was an artificiality to it. The way he climbed or jumped you can clearly see it is the wire work. Thea's action scenes are so much better.
ReplyDeleteThea/Oliver relationship has always been my favorite after Oliver/John relationship. It will be fun to see them in a different set up. IMO they should send Diggle as ARGUS head or undercover in HIVE next season. The character deserves a dedicated arc for himself. Thea, Oliver and Laurel can manage the missions with Felicity's help.
ReplyDeleteDon't be sad. They have to be intriguing and misleading to create a bigger hype.
ReplyDeleteThat feature Comic con trailer sounds like they bringing in some big name either hero or villain.
My guess Joker or G Lantern
I'm all for kicking that bitch Waller out of office. But why not be progressive, let Lyla take over and Diggle can take her old job as tactical/ops supervisor with ocational field work.
ReplyDeleteAs much as I would love to see Green Arrow and Black Canary together on the streets, Laurel is in dire need of training and mental dicipline. But there's a 5 month summer hiatus coming up where they can hopefully work on that.
Joker and Lantern are kinda locked into the movie side of things. Joker is in Suicide Squad and they're planning a Green Lantern reboot with Chris Pine.
ReplyDeleteBesides they already have the Joker in a way over on Flash. Don't tell me Mark Hamill won't be channeling some of his old character into the Trickster.
I hope no new big hero comes to the show anytime soon. They need to establish new team dynamics next season first half. It's all a mess right now. A season long big villain. Yes.
ReplyDeleteI liked his synchronized fighting scenes with Oliver but when he's on his own it was too much and I didn't like it too. Actually I think Thea's scenes are a little sloppy because it's so obvious that it's her stunt double and they feel kind of disoriented, at least to me.
ReplyDeleteAren't they already using the Joker on Gotham?
ReplyDeleteI don't mind Lyla being Diggle's boss. That will be awesome and she deserves it. This way John can be more hands on on missions or can even share missions with Team Arrow.
ReplyDeleteThat is why I think the team as a whole will be disbanded at the end of this year. Roy will go his way. Diggle will take ARGUS job, Laurel will go with Nyssa to get training, Felicity might leave with Ray for a while and come back in next season premiere, Thea and Oliver might take a vacation. I have no idea what Thea and Oliver will do. Last season team was at a high when the season ended. This season it could be the opposite. Then next season premiere Oliver will make the new lair and call all of them to become a team once again.
That's baby Joker. I don't think what is shown in Gotham actually affects Arrow/Flash universe. Gotham feels like it is in a different time line. Its the movie verse that affects the use of characters on Arrow.
ReplyDeleteBut i dont think they can use the characters either way.
ReplyDeleteI have heard complaints about Thea's fighting scenes before. But it was never obvious to me till now. Then again I didn't even notice Ra's al Ghul's body double in that fight scene.
ReplyDeleteYes, I agree. No more stunt DC characters for spin-offs. Focus on developing whatever form the team will take in the future (Oliver with just ladies Laurel/Thea/Felicity could be really funny)
ReplyDeleteYou didn't? It was so obvious it kinda killed the fight for me a little.
ReplyDeleteI see, I don't watch Gotham so I don't know what's happening there.
ReplyDeleteHey Quentin could balance out the estrogen in the foundry. But you are right that would be very funny. He will loose all the arguments. Ladies will band against him. LOL
ReplyDeleteAlso, the cast posted some pics shooting in an hangar and Colton was missing. After that I officially got on board of the Roy's dying train.
ReplyDeleteNah I saw it in the second watch but not the first time. It needs to be really obvious like Roy's case for me to see flaws in fighting scenes. I am blessed like that. On second watch I always pick up extras. I did notice Thea's extra in the first watch in the Corto Maltese episode last fight scene with Malcolm.
ReplyDeleteIs that so? Well DC has lots of other heroes from which Oliver can steal villains from.
ReplyDeleteSee, that would be awesome. And they could do rotating tie in comics for what everyone was up to during the hiatus.
ReplyDeleteI think that if they even dare to allude Felicity leaving it would be in 3x16, 3x17 or 3x18. They won't do it in the last episodes of the season. Specially if they're shaking things up between Oliver and Diggle, Oliver needs somebody by his side, to take both of them away from him it would be cruel.
ReplyDeleteThat would be hysterical lol Poor Oliver, the guy can't can't catch a break haha
ReplyDeleteWe'll have to wait and see. I don't even think they let the season go without introducing any new "good" boy/girl DC character. I just hope it will be more tolerable than Brandon Routh as Ray Palmer.
ReplyDeleteGreen Lantern is one of my personal favorites since they mentioned Oliver and flying. So they could introduce a without power Hal Jordan to charm the girls a bit.
I new big villain is secure, I just don't know from which universe they can steal.
You're lucky because it really kills the illusion and disconnects you from the scene.
ReplyDeleteBut he will have Thea. The thing is if Oliver and Felicity is going to become an item in the future I would rather it happen in next season. Let her be with someone else for a period of time. I don't want to see them getting together at the end of the season and then see a completely different dynamic after 5 months next season. I don't want to read comics to know how their relationship evolved. I'd rather see it on screen. So best part send Felicity away with Palmer.
ReplyDeleteI just hope they tone down with new masks/new hereos making appearances. It should be enough for now.
ReplyDeleteThe Flash is getting a standalone movie and has a show so I don't think that is a real problem. As far as rumors go I think GL is supposed to be African American and play the John Stewart character.
ReplyDeleteI want them to introduce a no power-upped Hal Jordan, to be part of Ollie's past as an flying instructor.
Agree. They pushed things a bit to far this year. I think making Thea a hero, no matter how much I enjoy her development is just to big of a push. Why does everyone in his life to go and get a hoody fetish.
ReplyDeleteI'd rather see her get kidnapped or missing than to think that she left the city, the team and her job to be with a guy she knew for a few months.
ReplyDeleteAnd then it isnt really surprise that they have to push storylines. Just focus on what you have. There should be enough to create storylines.
ReplyDeleteSeriously Palmer? I rather she needs a breather and goes to her mother for a while.
ReplyDeleteExactly. They can show us Nyssa and Laurel going to missions, Diggle doing ARGUS missions, Felicity and Ray setting up shop some other city, Roy will be mia or they can do tie in comics stuff for his adventures.
ReplyDeleteI think this might be the only thread that has only one original comment and 50 replies to the aforementioned comment lol
ReplyDeleteLOL. How about this she gets LP'd, turns insane and is locked up for 5 months with Oliver bringing her meals. Am I rude enough?? ;) Love you babe.
ReplyDeleteMother would do too.
ReplyDeleteI do not approve of a guy who leaves Felicity in bed to play TinMan.
ReplyDeleteI surely think so. I hope they get more character focused than comic universe focused. They pushed some big stories this season just to introduce Ra's and that universe.
ReplyDeleteLooking at the trailer it will pay off in a big way, but it was a shaky shaky road.
Even if they introduce some one I hope they do it in the second half and let him/her be already masked. I don't want another hero origin story any time soon.
ReplyDeleteI dont believe them after the way they hyped 3x15 and in reality people were predicting what happened even before season 3 started.
ReplyDeleteNo origin stories or if they don't have powers at that moment get them in a flash of light when they leave the show. Something like Barry in 2x09, but without returning.
ReplyDeleteThey have the Arrow/Flash spin-off. room enough there.
ReplyDeleteI thought I will list out the relevant points. Everything else was the same questions we are used to hearing on Stephen's panels.
ReplyDeleteI'd prefer that to her leaving with that creep that you like for some reason :P am I being rude enough? ;) Love you too sweetie :*
ReplyDeleteThat was honestly terrible. I expected huge things but this (eye rolls). It is a nat storyline but that hype was certainly too too much.
ReplyDeleteThat could work. But I hope they do a better job than Ray Palmer.
ReplyDeleteHuh So true. If they want to shock people they need to keep things really hush hush and don't go around saying words like game changer and shocker.
ReplyDeleteRay's story isn't even that bad, but he is annoying as s*it. terrible and I'm more or less a BR fan. The forced Raylicity sex, the annoying lines. Terrible.
ReplyDelete"The show will never be the same".....
ReplyDeleteI like him because I am ready to selectively view his character. Like I ignore the problematic aspects of his character. Since I love Felicity I ignore Felicity being shallow too. So all I see is he is loving towards Felicity, gave her a good job, she likes him very much and has fun with him.
ReplyDelete"It's the best episode of the show to date"
ReplyDeleteEvery hero has to leave their lady love in bed sleeping to attain their hero destiny. LOL. It's in the comic book hero code. LOL. Even if I forget all the character problems of Ray Palmer his journey and relationship with Felicity was really boring and cliched. The relationship as well might last a bit long off screen. Or else what was the need for this circus?
ReplyDeleteI can't ignore his those aspects of his character and I can't ignore how shallow and insensitive (being so happy about erasing Oliver's family name from the company) Felicity is around him.
ReplyDeleteFlash is a legacy character though, with 4 different persons having used the name. Joker is always Joker, there has only ever been one.
ReplyDeleteAs, for GL. The latest one is Chris Pine and it'll be Hal Jordan again, Nothing about John Stewart.
They isolated him and went for such a cliched route for the Ray/Felicity romance. He is the biggest plot device Arrow has ever used.
ReplyDeleteEasy, love triangle angst and to force Oliver to get his head out of you know where lol
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ReplyDeleteIKR? 15 episodes of him only interacting with Felicity!!! And now out of the blue he is officiating the wedding of two people he's never met before hahahaha
ReplyDeleteMy adorable princess. LOL. Excellent gif use.
ReplyDeleteBut if Felicity turns her back on him again they'll never move forward, this is so frustrating!
ReplyDeleteFor me it would be nice if they mended their friendship and trusted each other again, so if she sticks by his side it would be a great improvement (that's wishful thinking on my part).
I don't think they'll be an item this season, but I do think something is going to happen between them in 3x20 (hence all the clues Stephen gave this weekend) and I think Ray's going to be history (romantically).
Thanks for that. I wasn't in the mood to watch the panel really.
ReplyDeleteShallow yes!! But insensitive no. She was with Oliver in every step to get his company back. But at the first hurdle what did he do he just gave up and said it is better this way. Why shouldn't Felicity be happy at her new job?
ReplyDeleteDidn't heard/read the confirmation for Chris Pine playing Green Lantern. I like him.
ReplyDeleteThat would maybe/certainly exclude the GL appearance.
But if they went Ra's don't think Joker would be a problem. But I still hope they focus on a possible HIVE storyline.
But we'll see what they have in store for us.
Completely agree.
ReplyDeleteI didn't say she shouldn't be happy at her job but she shouldn't act so excited about erasing Oliver's family legacy so publicly. Even if he gave up on the company of course it still hurt him to see that! Remember he said that the company is his family and when he gave it up in the premiere it was because he was defeated and he thought the company would be better off under Ray's management not because he suddenly decided that he didn't care.
ReplyDeleteOkay another scenario. Ray and Felicity will split up. Oliver and Felicity will accept their feelings in 3x20. Felicity does not want to start a relationship with Oliver. Once burned twice shy scenario and she leaves Starling but is in a good place with Oliver. 5 months later she comes back in the premiere.
ReplyDeleteOr another one
Starling City police is still hunting Arrow. So Oliver has to be on the run with Thea. Diggle decides to take refuge in ARGUS, Laurel leaves with Nyssa, Felicity moves to a new city with Palmer as friends as he offers her a job. Roy cuts loose few episodes before and is MIA.
Cut Palmer and we might be good. I am gonna be so sick of Palmer in 3x17, 3x18, 3x19. And him going after Oliver makes him persona non grata for me.
ReplyDeleteI agree it was difficult to see because poor Oliver but I didn't see it as a strike against Oliver from Felicity's side at all. But that combined with her ogling Ray on Salmon ladder, dress, necklace and that weird speech I kind of disliked Felicity that episode.
ReplyDeleteActually Ray going after Oliver might be the most comedic thing that has happened this season after Laurel thinking she could stand a chance against Malcolm.
ReplyDeleteSo none of you are going to allow me to send Felicity with Palmer. You guys are a tough crowd.
ReplyDeleteWith how this whole season has been with Ray being promoted as the better Oliver. I am like bitch please.
ReplyDeleteMaybe she didn't do it on purpose but the fact that she didn't even think of Oliver's feeling at all hurt me. I kind of hated her in that episode, she was so OOC it was like watching another character. I know Oliver was jealous in this episode but it wasn't all jealousy especially the last scene when he hit the table. He was hurt and angry, mostly at himself for letting go of the company and Felicity.
ReplyDeleteYou keep forgetting that he's Barry in Oliver's body. That sentence will never not annoy and disgust me and it didn't even air yet.
ReplyDeleteNu-uh, not happening.
ReplyDeleteThey think its so hilarious. I dont know who has this big hard on for Ray but they should tone it down.
ReplyDeleteI am still not accepting he will die. In my head he is going to go away. It will be Akio who will die in flashbacks.
ReplyDeleteTone it way WAY down.
ReplyDeleteNot sure what to think of all the hype they are putting into the upcoming storylines. I mean if you don't delve into spoilers they are surprising. The only thing that would surprise if Oliver says yes to Ra's....
ReplyDeleteEven with all the spoilers we actually have no clue what is going to happen. Only that foundry will be compromised and there will be a task force against Oliver. Ray and Quentin will hunt him. I am still confused about what role Malcolm will play in all this mess.
ReplyDeleteDo you think Oliver will say yes to Ra's? That will be really surprising for me. A hero wanting to head LoA!! I hope if he says yes its because his arm is twisted and he is doing it to save someone.
I actually don't think Ray's going to go after him - that seems like tricky editing to make us believe that he is. All we know for sure from that clip is that Ray knows that Oliver's the Arrow - the "what are you going to do?" was a cutaway, and the "I'm going to get him," was a voiceover, so I think they'll ultimately be unrelated, or IF Ray does get it in his head to go after the Arrow (why would he at this point? Isn't Ray trying to emulate Arrow to a certain extent?), I think it'll be short-lived and Felicity will talk him out of it.
ReplyDeleteIt's essay time!
ReplyDeleteI honestly have no idea whatsoever about what's going down on those last episodes, things that I suspect:
- Oliver is going to be framed and that's why Quentin is going after him. Add the fact that Oliver lied about Sara and also his alliance with Malcolm.
- They'll have to leave Starling, but not Ray Palmer.. he's gonna stay and protect Starling City.
- Nyssa is going to flip about Oliver being asked to be the new Ra's Al Ghul, Laurel is going to help her with her vengeance against Malcolm but she won't comply if Nyssa goes after Oliver (someone mentioned Laurel doing something heroic regarding Oliver, I think it is standing up to Quentin or Nyssa)
- SA said that the offer is not really an offer, it's a demand, so if he declines there will be repercussions. Maybe Nyssa and Oliver can form an alliance against the Ra's. He refuses the post and Nyssa claims it after a lot of violence.
- Felicity is not going to be happy about Ray going after Oliver. The fact that she continued his mission after he "died" and the whole Malcolm Merlyn debacle say something about her loyalty, so they'll split over that. Felicity will probably have some epiphany about Ray not being Oliver (duh!) and the fact that even if she tries to move on she can't (blame it on all the fanfiction I've read, haha).
- Stephen mentioned that Oliver will do some things differently in 3x20, and AK said that he'll start questioning if it was a good idea to push Felicity away, so I think that he'll decide to fight for her, culminating in a great Olicity scene in 3x20 (Felicity declaring her feelings, maybe?), still don't think they'll be together, as you said, they'll acknowledge the mutual feelings and will rebuild the trust and the friendship they had.
- I have no idea where Roy and Thea fits in all this, to be honest, but I think Thea's desire to make Malcolm pay is what's causing a death. Like Malcolm dying to prove that he love's her or Roy being caught in the crossfire. That could be a turning point for her, so she decides to be a hero also.
With all that said and considering there'll be another spin off I think Felicity is staying in Starling and ruling QC/Palmer Tech. Laurel will probably find a trainer but I don't think is going to be Nyssa, I think Nyssa is gonna be busy with the League. Diggle being with Argus makes sense, Roy is dead and Thea and Oliver are somewhere being badasses. Olicity will be on the backburner and will make a comeback in season 4.
I'm terrible theorizing things and english is not my first language, so I hope what I wrote made some sense, haha.
I said that too. It doesn't make sense for Ray to go after Oliver. He might be suspicious of Oliver for some crime but I have a feeling he will accept Felicity's judgement.
ReplyDeleteThis is a good theory. Works for me. I just don't want any significant development to happen in the hiatus.
ReplyDeleteI am still not on board with Ray going after Arrow. I think that is a clever editing there. There is no reason for Ray to go against Arrow. Even if Oliver is found guilty for something Felicity will talk him down. That talk will make Palmer realize Felicity is in love with Oliver duh! and then bam split.
Relationship or not Oliver/Felicity are going to accept their feelings in 3x20. That is for sure. We have enough clues to know that.
Laurel being with Nyssa and then going against her for Oliver's sake will be nice to see. But I think Laurel is going to go against her father for Oliver.
Now be good girl and say with me "Roy is not dying. He is going to leave Starling City" 5 times.
I think Thea will go with the team to Nanda Parbat to protect Oliver. And Malcolm will go with them to protect Thea.
Felicity staying behind running QC would be awesome. So you think Laurel will get a new trainer? Who can that be? Will they be introduced this season? Or will it be the newly revived Sara, Katana, or magical Shado? I just want the team to be disbanded so that we don't feel why, when did this happen, feeling from season premiere.
I am terrible at theorizing too. Only a handful of my theories have ever come true in Arrow. Usually I am dead wrong.
Maybe he will say yes because he has no option and he has a plan to get out o it?!?!? It's just they have hyped so many twists and while they were wow they never lived up to the hype cause people were already going throug the theories, so that would be a huge "the show will never be the same" moment. Maybe in 3x20 he brings in the team on the LOA and Diggle disagrees and goes back to ARGUS and thus the relationship will be altered for ever.
ReplyDeleteIt was a very interesting read. I think some of it will come true. " Felicity will probably have some epiphany about Ray not being Oliver (duh!) and the fact that even if she tries to move on she can't (blame it on all the fanfiction I've read, haha)." hahahahaha right there with you lol
ReplyDeleteRoy might die and then get resurrected using the Lazarus pit
ReplyDelete"Now be good girl and say with me "Roy is not dying. He is going to leave Starling City" 5 times." lol
ReplyDeleteNone of our theories come true. It's like the writers creep around reading our theories just to go against them haha
I think he might say yes eventually. Stephen said in an interview that Ra's will tell him that the league will do anything he says so if he tells them to stop killing, they will. That might make him consider accepting the offer especially when he feels that he has nothing left in Starling.
ReplyDeleteYou know I really can't see the difference between ARGUS and the league. They're both killers who kill for the greater good (in their opinion).
ReplyDeleteI know you aren't being serious, but as a nerd I have to play um actually and point out that the pit's insanity only lasts a few minutes.
ReplyDeleteOliver has fulfilled that code with Laurel, and the other part with Felicity where heroes must overreact to danger and push people away. Lol. Wonder when Barry is gonna do that.
ReplyDeleteYeah when Palmer announced he was going after Oliver I laughed my ass off. I like Palmer, but he has no chance.
ReplyDeleteI'd say he's more like a less adorkable Cisco in a pre- wife's murder Malcolm body.
ReplyDeleteThat was my reaction
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Huh! Interesting combination.
ReplyDelete*The greatest moment in the history of the show will be in the trailer shown in the comic con next year."
ReplyDeleteStanding infront of a press conference, as Oliver starts to speak:
"My name is Oliver Queen, and I'm the Green Arrow."
Lol, or maybe not...might be too quick. I'd say Ollie refers himself to the Green Arrow instead to the rest of Team Arrow, or maybe to a criminal.
112 replies and counting. I'm really enjoying this lol
ReplyDeletegood point. ATM I just see no reason what is going to change their relationship. SA has shut down the idea of J. Diggle beeing John Stewart.
ReplyDeleteIf Dig is OK with Lyla killing people for a living (I know that they are bad people but still killing is killing and it's basically the same thing the league is doing) then why would the league be a problem for him?
ReplyDeleteHe did? When?
and for once it's not one of the ladies causing this buzz
ReplyDeleteYeah, although lately Ray and Malcolm create a lot of buzz too lol
ReplyDeleteOh, another panel with a lot of comments. Hmm, wonder what that's about? Let me watch this Vid.
ReplyDeleteWhy did you do this?!!!!! :\ you ruined the thread :@ We had a thing going, there was only one original comment and the rest were replies to that comment.
ReplyDeleteit was fun but it was bound to happen.....
ReplyDeleteI know but I was having fun :(
ReplyDeletewell probably because ARGUS is theoratically a black ops sanctioned organisation and the LOA is moraly indipendant. ARGUS is maybe the same but they excuse themselves with govermental structures. Maybe realizing ARGUS and LOA are not that much different is part of Diggles journey!?!?! (grasping at straws)
ReplyDeleteNothing I'm just joking around.
ReplyDeleteCan you pass me some of those straws?
ReplyDeleteWow really? I didn't scroll down, I just saw the big number under the topic. I think I'll watch the Vid later, I'm actually very tired. (Didn't get much sleep last night).
ReplyDeleteonly two, if not I am going to fall ;-)
ReplyDeleteWhich continuity issue at the beginning of season?
ReplyDeleteWhy would Colton then tweet about an emotional scene when Roy has nothing to do with Akio?
ReplyDeleteI guess two coul do the trick but they better resolve this issue soon before the straws break lol
ReplyDeleteYeah me too and I didn't have the energy to watch to whole video too. ODA summarized the important points, bless her heart.
ReplyDeleteThe emotional scene and Akio's Death aren't necessarily connected. Stephen's tweet said that they were filing a goodbye scene not a death scene.
ReplyDeletewell Ray cause of his connection to Felicity, but Malcom counts :-D
ReplyDeleteBelieve it or not Ray's romance with Felicity is the last thing that bothers me about that character.
ReplyDeleteI do believe you, I have been reading the comments section and following the discussion (don't always have time to comment myself). I just found his storyline very boring....
ReplyDeleteIt wasn't a confirmed casting, only a rumor.
ReplyDeleteAm I a terrible person for wanting Ray to actually go after Oliver and to have his ass kicked fifty different ways?
ReplyDeleteBut why isn't he in Vancouver shooting? That's the major reason I think it's definitive to be honest.
ReplyDeleteI've been waiting for Oliver to punch Ray's lights out ALL SEASON, so what does that make me? lol
ReplyDeleteI think any task force against Oliver will last until the SF as he will be hero to police and citizens. He did pledge he wont leave again
ReplyDeleteHe's done nothing but leave ever since he promised them that lol
ReplyDeleteConsidering the major complaint about Olicity in 3x01 was that Oliver's feelings were out of nowhere, I think they need to seriously reevaluate showing important things only on the comics. They should use the comics to develop villains, to show more glimpses of characters that we don't usually see (like they're doing with Helena and the Suicide Squad).
ReplyDeleteAbout Ray x Oliver, they did film a confrontation didn't they? But I agree, even if he doesn't go after Oliver, he'll probably notice Felicity's feelings, assuming she'll try to stop him.
3x20 is going to be an angst fest! MG said that it's more emotional than the episodes where Moira and Tommy died.
I'm only saying Laurel is getting a new trainer because the eps said she would after the whole Wildcat fiasco. If it's someone we already know it will probably be set up this season, if it is someone new I think next season. The only reason I don't want Nyssa training her is because I don't want her to follow Sara's exact same path. She needs her own thing.
I don't want Roy to die, but I'm intrigued that Colton is not shooting 3x20 apparently. He could be LP'd, but shouldn't him be shooting if that's the case?
I'm pissed I'm studying at nights and won't be able to watch it simultaneously but wednesday can't come soon enough!
Oh how I love Shawn and the always beautiful Ghee Buttersnaps.
ReplyDeleteI'm marathoning the show right now. Just finished season 4 finale an hour ago.
ReplyDeleteI read that oliver is sideline against a metahuman? And TA trying to stop it. I wonder if they still unofficially fighting crime or the task force is over.....it would too much if a risk when police will be looking for roy and laurel too
ReplyDeleteI'm at a friend's house, and her WiFi for w/e reason is giving me a crap load of problems, getting weak signal at her house, which is odd b/c I get great service everywhere! Anyways, that was nice of her, BUT I prefer to watch the videos. I need to see my baby's face. Lol = p
ReplyDeleteMy theory is death that MG spoiled will be that of Akio and the emotional scene that involves Roy and Oliver is Roy cutting ties with the team and moving away from Starling City. It could be because of a fight with Oliver or because SCPD considers him Arrow and a fugitive.
ReplyDeleteI think may be a new costume and look for Arrow with him being referenced as Green Arrow.
ReplyDeleteOnly few mins. Damn! There goes my theory for Koky :P
ReplyDeleteWhat Stephen said was if he becomes next Ra's he will have complete power on league and he can ask them to stop killing. Now the question is what about the period until the original Ra's dies and Oliver gets the power. Can you imagine this Ra's accepting Oliver's no killing rule while he is in power? No imo if Oliver accepts the offer it will be because his arm is twisted and he has no other choice what so ever.
ReplyDeleteI sometimes wish I could stand firm and not see the spoilers. The episode viewing experience will be so much more better. But alas I am weak :)
ReplyDeleteFor Diggle to go against Oliver the reason will have to be huge.
People had trouble digesting the increased closeness between Oliver and Felicity in season 3 premiere. For some in the audience they couldn't understand when Oliver fell in love with Felicity. That was because of the time jump and it ruined the premiere for a lot of people. I don't want same scenario happening next season
ReplyDeleteThey cannot have a time jump as soon as Oliver/Felicity decide to get together and show them as a happy couple 5 months later. They need to show Oliver struggling to be in a relationship and they will have struggles in the beginning. MG and crew are simply using poor Olicity shippers for their comic book sale.
ReplyDeleteThe confrontation scene is in ep.17 when Ray first takes flight. That may not mean Ray is against Oliver. It looked from photos Ray is happily revealing himself to Arrow. Ray will definitely notice Felicity's involvement by her concern for Oliver. MG said 3x20 is more emotional then I am scared. His emotional, epic, cool, emmy worthy and mine are never the same.
I am all for new trainer for Laurel. But there is no time now in this season to introduce a new character. And she needs training badly in this 5 months hiatus. May be we will see Laurel training with new person when season 4 begins and they will say through exposition she was training all this time.
I don't think Roy will be LP'd. Since we have this photo of Lance arresting Roy I get a feeling Oliver breaks him out of prison and Roys goes away from Starling because he is a wanted criminal now.
I am so glad we have only one break in the coming weeks. I can't wait.
Ouch! Poor BR. He is given such poor material to work with. I do love Ray but they could have made him so much more awesome.
ReplyDeleteAkio doesn't interest anyone though and we already know he is dead. I don't think he is the death that Guggenheim teases.
ReplyDeleteIt's Guggentroll he would take a minuscule sentence and give it out as a dialogue tease. He lives for confusing his audience with spoilers. I don't trust even one word coming out of his mouth especially spoilers. Now SA I believe implicitly. He never twist facts. CH on the other hand is as good as MG in teasing audience. I hope Roy is not dead.
ReplyDeleteaw don't use Psych as a bash but awesome that you loved Psych "Suck it" LOL
ReplyDeleteNow I really wish someone would draw a fan art of the Guggentroll (a classic mythological Troll with Marg Guggenheims face)
ReplyDeleteAlas I didn't name him that. It is tumblr people's favorite nick name for MG.
ReplyDeleteOh, I know. But now I got this image in my head and a 5 year old could beat me at drawing.
ReplyDeletethey are getting better at not spoiling too much. Maybe they did heare the complains at the beginning of the season about too many spoilers.....
ReplyDeleteAgree. I have a feeling Ollie will also see a vision of his father too, much like in "Legacies" and get into conversation of how he can do so much more on both sides of the front.
ReplyDeleteThat wasn't an insult. I actually love Routh in the role. Unlike his okay turn as Supes, and his bland role as Shaw in Chuck (awesome as a villain though). Also loved him in Scott Pilgrim.
ReplyDeletewell at least they unofficially confirm we see comic con in July? It clear if there is some season 4 that already planned ahead of time. This probably means there is a cliffhanger
ReplyDeleteI hate cliffhangers. But I am so excited for season 4 now and season 3 is not even over.
ReplyDeleteI was never a BR fan. I liked him in supes well enough but the movie was so long. I was surprised I really liked him as Ray in Arrow. Even with all the "stalking" and self absorption in earlier episodes he has a lot of charm. I think he will do well in the new show. The problem with Arrow was sometimes it felt like he and Felicity was part of another show unless Felicity was badgering Ray because of her feelings for Oliver. Ep.5 is my favorite for Ray in this season. He fit well with Felicity's story.
ReplyDeleteDo you think Team Arrow will change locations to some other city maybe Seattle?
ReplyDeleteYou convinced me, Roy's not in Nanda Parbat because he's in Starling with Laurel and the creep with the suit keeping things in check. Felicity is the one who dies, their declaration is right before she passes away in the plane and they LP her. I just remembered MG said that 3x20 is extremely good AND extremely bad for Olicity. So yeah, I think she dies.
ReplyDeleteHonestly that's my only problem with Ray's storyline.
ReplyDeleteI hope not. We still haven't even seen Star City in this series, lol.
ReplyDeleteOh that's true. Whatever happened to the re branding of the city?
ReplyDeleteI think it's going to happen in the end of the season. Ray's focus has been on the exo-suit, but that'll be resolved most likely by the end of the season. Starling City is rebranded as Star City right before it's attacked by the League of Assassins, lol.
ReplyDeleteNo. I don't want her to die. It will be a little bit fan fictiony for my taste. If anyone dies and being LP'd it should be Thea.
ReplyDeleteI don't want it either, but what could happen between them that's going to be extremely bad? I mean, what could be worst than what already happened? A bomb exploded on their first date, then Sara died, then he died, then she slept with someone else... what's gonna happen now? Is he going to sleep with her sister? lol... I'm confused.
ReplyDeleteOr he is really sad about everyone turning against him and is at his lowest point and they have an emotional conversation. Who knows. I can never understand what MG means most of the time.
ReplyDeleteThat city is doomed. No change of name will help that. But I hope they have not forgotten about it.
ReplyDeleteI think Star City and "green arrow" name is coming but who will come first is another question.
ReplyDeletea new GA costumn again........perhaps his old is destroyed or because he can't use the suit because it already been used by league to set him up so using it would remind people of the bad things
ReplyDeleteThat's what I thought. A new beginning a new costume. He has been wearing Yao Fei's hood to honor all the people who died in his life. It's like Oliver always felt he has a debt to pay. Now may be in season 4 he will be ready to let the hood go and embrace the identity and mission for himself.
ReplyDeleteI don't think the hood will be abandon but maybe he going sleeveless or something closer to his comic counterpart.....I think YJ GA suit would be great..do we know when we see this new GA perhaps after episode 20?
ReplyDeletePlease no sleeveless. I usually can't take heroes with no sleeves seriously. Unless it is Thor. That guns!!! Even he is confused in the movies whether to have sleeves or not.
ReplyDeleteMay be a suit lighter in color like the comics. Honestly I love the current costume a lot. It is very functional.
That's the kind of thinking Ray has, but Star City better be attacked by villains too. It can't just be a cliche for Starling City. No name change should keep away the idea of having villains attack the city.
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