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POLL : What did you think of The Musketeers - The Exiles?

Mar 2, 2014

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31 comments:

  1. SandiMarch 2, 2014 at 10:07 PM

    I think is one of my favourite episodes yet! Looking forward to hearing what people thought of it :)

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  2. sharonallyMarch 2, 2014 at 10:32 PM

    I thought it was gorgeous from start to finish . There seem to be a emphasis on family both good and bad you have to feel sorry for Louis having a mother like that.. Loved Constance's fight scene she seems to of learnt a fair bit lol and come on Aramis and baby who can resist that .

    I was pleased Agnes and Henry got away from the madness of it all to start a new life . But I wonder whether we have seen the last of Louis's mother ?.

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  3. SandiMarch 2, 2014 at 10:58 PM

    It was fab to see Constance standing up for herself and protecting Henry and Aramis like that, she did really well, I've grown to like her more and more each episode I think. Loved Aramis singing to the baby :D hehe. I assume that poor Henry will grow up to be the Man in the Iron Mask, but they have left it vague enough to leave it open to explore it another way if they want to later on too, which I think was wise.


    Louis' mother explained a lot about him I think, between her and the Cardinal manipulating him for their own needs it's easy to see why he has never really grown up isn't it. I think Gage did well with the emotions in the episode, the tantrums and the tears could have come across as too much very easily, but instead I felt very sorry for him. Ann must also have the patience of a saint to put up with, lol.

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  4. sharonallyMarch 2, 2014 at 11:09 PM

    You cannot help but feel sorry for Louis can you . I think Anne is a good influence in his life but it must be difficult for her , she is up against the Cardinal and Louis own personality .

    I love that Constance is shown as a strong woman but then I loved her from the start she seems to of become a important member of the group .

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  5. Patrick MaloneyMarch 2, 2014 at 11:19 PM

    Great

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  6. deeannjayMarch 2, 2014 at 11:26 PM

    Santiago with the baby!
    Santiago singing!
    Strong plot with lots of twists, turns and intrigue.
    Lovely scenery and interiors that just seem to get more gorgeous each week.
    How naughty of them to try and make us think for even a second that Aramis would let the baby be thrown off the bridge / not jump into the foaming torrent to save him!
    I LOVED this episode.

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  7. SandiMarch 2, 2014 at 11:35 PM

    Santiago as Aramis is dream casting. He's a firm favourite on this site going by the poll we ran today, he topped it quite comfortably :D http://www.spoilertv.com/2014/03/usd-poll-who-is-your-favourite.html


    Yes, it was naughty too let us think the baby was drowned, but I think part of me trusted in his promise he made Agnes all along, that he had a plan up his sleeve somehow. He had to turn out to be the hero of the day after all they had been through :)

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  8. SandiMarch 2, 2014 at 11:39 PM

    I do think it's great that the women are portrayed so well on the show, I only hope that Milady gets a bit more fleshed out now too.

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  9. LuckyNumberSLVNMarch 3, 2014 at 12:49 AM

    This episode is my favorite yet ! Santiago gave a wonderful performance, I thought ! I love Aramis' character so much, even more after this episode. You didn't lie about the singing, and everything. I loved Constance in it too, and the character of Agnes was really endearing. I loved all her scenes with Aramis. He was so protective, and a bit sad too. That litterally made my heart melt. Anyway, I can't wait to see more.

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  10. SandiMarch 3, 2014 at 11:50 AM

    You can see why it was so hard to keep quiet about it for so long now! lol

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  11. LuckyNumberSLVNMarch 3, 2014 at 4:20 PM

    Ho yes !

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  12. swanprideMarch 3, 2014 at 5:50 PM

    That was the first time since the second episode that the show managed to enthral me again...though I was pretty sure from the get go that it was a "man in the iron mask" scenario, despite the twists they threw in. (Not that I fell for the last ones).
    But big plus all around above all for making Louis a more relatable character.
    Big lol for Constance and Aramis...I know why they are my favourite characters, they have the best actors by far, and in combination, they just own the scene.
    Extra plus for Constance being allowed to fight.
    Random observation: The Maria's dress was the stupidest thing I have ever seen with all the uneven stripes practically strangling her. But the actress pulled the character off nevertheless.
    I admit though Agnes naivety frustrated me a little bit.

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  13. SandiMarch 3, 2014 at 9:16 PM

    I'm so glad that they gave Louis some background in this episode, and boy didn't Gage do a lot with what he was given, he was just marvellous imo, could really see his inner struggles and demons. He seemed to gel on screen a lot more with his mother than he has done with the Cardinal so far I thought. But yes, her dress was ridiculous XD I did like her peacock one towards the end though, it fitted the way she thought she was going to strut and preen her self around court from now on.

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  14. GemmaMarch 5, 2014 at 12:27 AM

    i noticed that even king louis got a bit teary over that fact he does not have a son. he looked shocked or upset when queen anne said "if i ever become one" (a mother)

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  15. BaileyMarch 5, 2014 at 1:14 AM

    Very much enjoyed the episode. Excellent from start to finish. A few highlights for me (mostly related to Aramis):

    - Constance fighting was great, as was her “Any other useful advice?” comment to d’Artagnan. lol

    - Aramis’s very pleased (and trusting) reaction to Constance's fighting also pleased me immensely.

    - As I recall a childhood fondness for The A-Team, d’Artagnan’s, “Don’t you love it when a plan comes together?” was a nice little homage that made me laugh.


    - Loved the sort of tacit agreement between Treville and Aramis before Aramis went off to save the baby. “Paperwork” indeed. I like to think this means they’ve come to even more of an understanding after the fallout with Marsac. And a mutual understanding regarding the motives of the cardinal, as well as a mutual willingness to do the right thing when possible, even should it require some subterfuge.

    - Aramis's journey the whole episode was a joy for me. Bringing this story after the episode with Marsac, I get the general sense that Aramis has still been waffling in that place between being a good (obedient) soldier, and yet also being totally willing to go off on his own. Additionally, I like to think that while he'll put himself in those questionable situations without hesitation, he would hesitate to drag his brothers in the same direction if it could mean harm or dishonor for them. The theme of referring to the musketeers as his family, yet still having him struggle with that idea of loneliness, was well played.

    - Finally, I have no idea why I’m mentioning this, but I enjoy it when Porthos laughs or chuckles. When he smiled and said, “You didn’t really think we were going to take the baby did ya?” And then laughed. I just... yeah, I enjoyed how he played that.

    Oh, and actually, one more note: Did the gravestone at the end that Agnes was standing next
    to say Avalon? That made me chuckle.

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  16. BaileyMarch 5, 2014 at 1:27 AM

    The Queens dress, was indeed, totally ridiculous.

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  17. SandiMarch 5, 2014 at 1:02 PM

    Yeah, I got the feeling it's something he probably doesn't think about a great deal, but when he's reminded he gets melancholy over. Which again ties into his childlike behaviour I guess, esp when compared to the reaction of Anne.

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  18. SandiMarch 5, 2014 at 1:24 PM

    Ha, I love Porthos' chuckles too, the one you mention in particular, I also liked his throwaway line about burning the barrels being a waste just after then too. I sometimes feel that he has the least to say of the three Musketeers but it's little things like this that pad his character out, and could be part of what D'Artagnan's is missing maybe?


    Aramis accepting the role reversal with Constance was great, I love how doesn't seem to discriminate against people generally, maybe his faith playing a part here? He gives people a chance, and if they prove themself he just just goes with the flow. Which ties is nicely with what you have said about his understanding with Treville too :)

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  19. magilMarch 6, 2014 at 5:25 AM

    I kept watching the way he'd screw his lips to the side when he was trying not to cry and, wow, my nephew totally does that when he's fighting tears. Gage did a great portrayal.

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  20. magilMarch 6, 2014 at 5:31 AM

    Fun breakdown of the episode highlights. :) I totally agree with you about this being a good follow up for The Good Soldier. I liked seeing Treville back him up or at least give him that opening with his wink wink nudge nudge, in order to prevent a tragedy.


    And yep, I'm pretty sure the gravestone at the end of the ep did say "Avalon." Which made me have an abrupt number of Lancelot-reincarnated-as-Aramis dreams. XD

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  21. magilMarch 6, 2014 at 5:41 AM

    Yes, I totally love that about Aramis. How at first he wanted to protect her, but was open to the idea that she actually had it covered. And when he asked and she said she did, he totally trusted her and then seemed to just enjoy watching her work. I loved that. Probably to an unhealthy degree.


    I agree with you about what D'Artagnan's character is missing. Or might be missing. Or whatever. They haven't given him enough personality, so much so that it's hard for me to read him sometimes (and I really think it's the writing more than the actor). I mean, Tom Burke is totally stoic in his performance but I'm rarely left in doubt about his character's loyalties and intentions. D'Artagnan? Not so much. For example, that scene you both are talking about where Porthos chuckles. I had no doubt that Porthos and Athos were totally on Aramis's side the whole time despite what they were saying. But I had doubts about D'Artagnan. That said, I did like the little pat on the back that D'Artagnan gave Aramis as they were all "riding off into the sunset," as it were, at the end of the episode.

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  22. SandiMarch 6, 2014 at 12:51 PM

    Part of me wonders, going back to the flower left on his pillow by Milady and their chat in the alley in episode 2, if we're perhaps not meant to completely trust him yet. Maybe there is still going to be a point where he may become a turncoat, or feign becoming one? The trailer teaser this week may be a hint of that too, 30 livre - 30 pieces of silver? ;)

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  23. magilMarch 6, 2014 at 3:34 PM

    Oh, very fascinating! My mind didn't make that connection at all.

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  24. SandiMarch 6, 2014 at 5:47 PM

    It probably doesn't stand out until you see it to be fair, and even then it's not clear what is exactly going on or what will happen. But I just thought of another little point they maybe set up with D'Artagnan, remember when he questioned for a second if Porthos could have been responsible for the murder in The Homecoming? At the time I just put it down to him not knowing them as well as they knew each other, but part of me is now wondering if they perhaps have been setting up something all along?

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  25. BaileyMarch 6, 2014 at 9:42 PM

    It does very much seem as though d'Artagnan's loyalty still needs to be tested.

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  26. SandiMarch 7, 2014 at 2:16 PM

    I don't think I have ever seen a poll on this site before without a vote for less than Good :o

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  27. JasonMarch 9, 2014 at 7:57 PM

    I vote and comment on very few shows, but yep, I feel like that's pretty cool. It was a really good ep.

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  28. JasonMarch 9, 2014 at 8:03 PM

    Treville tacitly backing Aramis's agenda was needed I think. It felt like a natural evolution for the characters, particularly between Treville and Aramis with the events of Savoy and the events of "The Good Soldier" in the background. It felt like they've come to this unspoken agreement that being good soldiers doesn't mean they can't be smarter than the cardinal and outwit him when it needs to happen. I see the two of them being willing to do this especially.

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  29. JasonMarch 9, 2014 at 8:08 PM

    Generally I feel like the whole of D'Artagnan's character development was in the pilot with him being impulsive and swearing revenge at all costs for his father. Since then it feels like he's just hanging out with the boys but I don't feel any real progress or depth in his character. Or conflict. His character journey is a little benign at this point. I'm interested in it, and I don't mind the actor. But, I don't even get why Milady or the cardinal would be that interested in him, or what they think he can really do for them. It's kind of a suspension of disbelief for me that they would care about him at all, or think he could be influential enough to do anything that they would find useful. At this point, anyway.

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  30. JasonMarch 9, 2014 at 8:10 PM

    It would be nice if they were. I'd like to see a smart plot around this. Some real conflict and testing of loyalties.

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  31. SandiMarch 9, 2014 at 8:45 PM

    I think some of that has come from not have Milady around for so long, and by not really having the Cardinal be evil or working against the Musketeers in general. It's quite a large cast really I guess, and they have had such a great guest cast line up too that some things have taken a bit of a back seat imo.

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