I'll take one of the subtler moments again. For me, it was Shaw's reaction to Finch's and Arthur's revelations regarding their mischievous deeds in college...including Finch's gravitational pull with the ladies.
Yes, the same show that made a big announcement before they killed a main character meaning they probably weren't going to kill any other character without fanfare and so soon after the last one
It was truly hard for me to say which moment was my favorite. I did love Finch's expression when Reese and Fusco showed up. But I did take quite a turn when we found out that the drives were exchanged and we saw the videoed moment of the exchange. And my heart was very touched by the flashback scenes of Finch with his dad. I loved it when he gave his dad the "birding" book about Eastern U.S. birds when his dad couldn't remember the bird's name and I was sad when his dad couldn't recognize Harold as his son. Saddest of all was Reese's determination that he couldn't continue with Finch. My heart broke at the look in Reese's and Harold's eyes at that moment. So really "none" were my favorite moments--but lots were sad ones. The show is so sad and frustrating right now. I feel like I've been through a wringer....Character deaths are not the only "tense" moments for me by a long shot.
Henson stated on the Tonight Show with David Letternan that since the beginning of signing onto the series, she asked to not be a long termed character, because she prefers doing films...
IMO character deaths can be very effective if they are used right. IMO they have been using Carter's right, because these new deadly threats allow for greater acceptance of our more recant female leads: the killers Root and Shaw, and additionally allow for a great debate (among the characters and the viewers) in terms of moral center of if the machine really matters and/or really helps, if the most "good" character is killed? Let alone the prospect that "she" might be evolving and is no longer solely relying on Finch's ethics/beliefs (if those are even acceptable, as these flashbacks also point out a bit of hubris personality, despite good intentions) -It's also being used to push Reese down a certain road that may end up reflecting his past (with the CIA , Stanton, Snow)...
The Root scenes didn't amount to much, since she only lost hearing in one ear, and all we saw Reese do in this episode was sulk and be snarky with Fusco, which is the usual grieving process of a main character in a series
I'm not arguing about if or if not Root's scenes amounted to much, I'm arguing about how to use the death of a character to set up plots for the rest of characters and give the series a more philosophical edge and/or subtext...
But I also disagree about Root scenes...She is able to NOT cave into the drugs and torturing, was able to distract control and get the knife in her pocket, and we learned point blank that she's the Machine's "Interface" and clearly the Machine continues to value her, as it helped her disarm the other men as well...
But Reese is the only one grieving the way he is and it adds weight to his character, because he's the one who has been really really lost before, so it's more than just that, especially since, despite whatever he has been telling himself/Fusco, he came back and saved Finch anyways...his moral dilema should be ours as well, even though clearly our current 3 bads are really really bad...
So being tortured with excruciating chemical injections and having the hearing in one ear surgically destroyed without anaesthetic "doesn't amount to much"? What are you in your day job, a soldier at Guantanamo?
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Harold's flashbacks were the best scenes of these past two episodes, since the present lacked any real tension
ReplyDeleteDid you watch a different show?
ReplyDeleteFavorite conversation. Finch "Do what Mr. Reese would do" Shaw "Brood?".
ReplyDeleteMy favorite scene was Root talking to Control as The Machine. That was a really great one.
ReplyDeleteI'll take one of the subtler moments again. For me, it was Shaw's reaction to Finch's and Arthur's revelations regarding their mischievous deeds in college...including Finch's gravitational pull with the ladies.
ReplyDelete'All' option? If I have to pick just one.. Greer at the end. Followed closely by Reese returning to save Finch.
ReplyDeleteHarold & Arthur in just about every scene they were in.
ReplyDeleteYes, the same show that made a big announcement before they killed a main character meaning they probably weren't going to kill any other character without fanfare and so soon after the last one
ReplyDeleteIt was truly hard for me to say which moment was my favorite. I did love Finch's expression when Reese and Fusco showed up. But I did take quite a turn when we found out that the drives were exchanged and we saw the videoed moment of the exchange. And my heart was very touched by the flashback scenes of Finch with his dad. I loved it when he gave his dad the "birding" book about Eastern U.S. birds when his dad couldn't remember the bird's name and I was sad when his dad couldn't recognize Harold as his son. Saddest of all was Reese's determination that he couldn't continue with Finch. My heart broke at the look in Reese's and Harold's eyes at that moment. So really "none" were my favorite moments--but lots were sad ones. The show is so sad and frustrating right now. I feel like I've been through a wringer....Character deaths are not the only "tense" moments for me by a long shot.
ReplyDeleteI also loved: Finch "This situation requires finesse". Shaw "I've got finesse coming out of my ass".
ReplyDeleteLOL!
So killing a main character is now the bar for "tension"?
ReplyDeleteAlways a tough call with this show, but I guess I'd have to go with the knife'scalpel scene--Root turning the tables on Control was nice to see.
ReplyDeleteRoot as The Machine. Loved it.
ReplyDeleteHenson stated on the Tonight Show with David Letternan that since the beginning of signing onto the series, she asked to not be a long termed character, because she prefers doing films...
ReplyDeleteIMO character deaths can be very effective if they are used right. IMO they have been using Carter's right, because these new deadly threats allow for greater acceptance of our more recant female leads: the killers Root and Shaw, and additionally allow for a great debate (among the characters and the viewers) in terms of moral center of if the machine really matters and/or really helps, if the most "good" character is killed? Let alone the prospect that "she" might be evolving and is no longer solely relying on Finch's ethics/beliefs (if those are even acceptable, as these flashbacks also point out a bit of hubris personality, despite good intentions) -It's also being used to push Reese down a certain road that may end up reflecting his past (with the CIA , Stanton, Snow)...
The Root scenes didn't amount to much, since she only lost hearing in one ear, and all we saw Reese do in this episode was sulk and be snarky with Fusco, which is the usual grieving process of a main character in a series
ReplyDeleteI'm not arguing about if or if not Root's scenes amounted to much, I'm arguing about how to use the death of a character to set up plots for the rest of characters and give the series a more philosophical edge and/or subtext...
ReplyDeleteBut I also disagree about Root scenes...She is able to NOT cave into the drugs and torturing, was able to distract control and get the knife in her pocket, and we learned point blank that she's the Machine's "Interface" and clearly the Machine continues to value her, as it helped her disarm the other men as well...
But Reese is the only one grieving the way he is and it adds weight to his character, because he's the one who has been really really lost before, so it's more than just that, especially since, despite whatever he has been telling himself/Fusco, he came back and saved Finch anyways...his moral dilema should be ours as well, even though clearly our current 3 bads are really really bad...
The machine gives author a montage of his memories
ReplyDeleteSo being tortured with excruciating chemical injections and having the hearing in one ear surgically destroyed without anaesthetic "doesn't amount to much"? What are you in your day job, a soldier at Guantanamo?
ReplyDeleteNo because the material with Root did work, but that barely in the episode
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