That was great! I loved it. Audrey definitely appreciated Doctor!Nathan. Maybe they can play doctor and nurse later. I LOL'd at the cheesy bed line (it was better than the "Trouble in my pants" line I thought they were going for, tbh).
Cop!Duke was also awesome. Loved him. I love AU episodes and that one definitely did not disappoint.
Sorta saw "Audrey created the Troubles" coming, but that was surprising. And holy fuck at the end! Like it's kinda obvious now, but still didn't see that one coming.
The Nathan Audrey stuff was amazing, it's surreal watching them like that when I thought it's be years before they got together, William is being sooo creepy I really can't wait for them to get rid of him but with him being connected to Audrey that seems kinda difficult so nicely played
O.M.F.G WOW at the ending. The only thing that I didn't like was that Audrey didn't tell Nathan what William had said - that's unlike her, I would have thought she'd have told him everything.
So this is what I got so far: William and created the troubles. As punishment William was locked in the barn and would get placed into Haven with new identity everytime (lexie/audrey/lucy/sarah/xxx). Agent Howard was either responsible for this or he was getting punished aswell. My idea is that this started a long time ago (not 100 but 1000 years or something). So hopefully we get a flashback episode soon. Not exactly sure what their linked lives mean at the moment (other then you can't kill one without killing the other), but it must be some setup so they can't escape this 'curse' without both dieing.
the thing I liked most about the ending is that Nathan didn't learn the lesson about his trigger happy finger last time with the barn dying and Audrey back unscathed, but this was like a big cosmic gotcha!
Awesome episode! didn't see the whole Audrey creating the troubles thing coming at all. I definitely did not see the ending coming. So how are they going to get rid of William if they can't kill him without killing her and the barn has been destroyed? I really wonder how the original Audrey was. Especially after what William said. Why would she enjoy making the troubles? Unless he's lying, but I wouldn't think that he would seeing as it technically doesn't benefit him. I really wanna see what she was like back when that happened.
Well, I might the be the only one who is actually really love evil William, which I'm okay will. This is a new side to Colin Fuerguson that we haven't seen before! So, Audrey and William created the troubles? Hmm…that's interesting! And that they're connected, really connected. Well, that's also interesting.
We're finally getting answers but adding more questions. Only a couple episodes left to answer them all in. Let's hope all the questions will be answered!
Okay, so, during the one of the commercial breaks, my mom and I were talking about who's trouble it could have been and we were right for once! We were actually right! This was a first for us, we never try to figure it out but it was fun figuring it out!
It was Audrey's idea that William needed to be killed not Nathan's. William went on a murdering spree and they needed to stop him. Nathan did not know William and Audrey were connected because Audrey did not choose to tell him.
Nathan really shouldn't have a badge if he's going to shoot first and ask questions later. They should have just arrested William for the murder of Cliff - there was no reason to shoot him because their lives weren't at risk.
I've never seen any of his work before, but he's really really good on Haven! It's just his whole demeanour, and now that he's evil you can really see how great he is.
I think the linking up with each other was part of the punishment in case William ever managed to escape and try to bring his Bonnie i mean Original X back and continue what they started. Seeing as how Audrey past lives helped the troubles i'm assuming her punishment is to come back every 27 years for whatever the number of troubles they created...meaning if they created 50 troubles then it means Audrey would have to come back 50 times lol.
But what if 27 years is exactly how many troubles they created?? If it's the punishment for her to come back and heal haven then how come the troubles manage to start before her return to haven??
Is it possible they could have been twins or siblings a long time ago that played a game and created a alternate universe "their trouble so to speak ".Recall William talking about the good times they had on that hill .Children playing may not have realized their powers
Or maybe they were the only survivors of some kind of catastrophe to their home world (or dimension), whose father had saved them by sending them away in some sort of interdimensional traveling device (the barn) and they spent thousands of years drifting beween various dimensions, sometimes touching one and sometimes touching another. Agent Howard could have been their trusty butler (or male nanny) and those two goons could have been bodyguards that their father provided when he sent them away to keep them from being destroyed along with their home world. Yikes - echos of Krypton!!!
First of all William is not even human, he is an evil creature and he has been killing people since he arrived to Haven. Nathan holds a badge? The Haven police department is run by vigilantes (the guard) it's not a real police department. Haven is a sci-fi show not a cop drama!
OMG could you be any more obnoxious? This isn't real life, and the Haven PD isn't evn run by Nathan but a bunch of wackos. Not to mention that HELLOOOOO William a)helped created the troubles, b)he has powers, c)he has 2 freaky guys and c)weird grey things that make people go crazy. Tell me which part of arresting William would have worked?
The amount of stupid Nathan hate is beyond RIDICULOUS.
we don't even know what the troubles were made for, they could have been something different in the beginning. I mean there's gotta be more to it than just getting a kick out of watching the world burn. in any case I think it'd be cool to watch a pissed off original Audrey realizing she's been imprisoned and mind raped for like a thousand years lol
Out of love, not out of jealousy. There is nothing to be jealous of. even if Audrey and William had a thing, it is over now, since he is a villain and she hates him.
How do you know their lives weren't at risk. This it William, with powers they know about and others they don't. I doubt that they would be able to arrest him without getting hurt, even if he doesn't have a gun.
Great storytelling! This show is really great with their surprise twists. I loved the reveal by William, and the connection he has with Audrey adds a dangerous and interesting twist to the story. Audrey's never been hurt this badly on the show, so I'm glad that they chose to do it this way, since it's not just a throwaway event meant for drama, but instead, adds great future story prospects. Also, it seems like William's stretching the truth a little in regards to who's responsible for the Troubles. I bet he tricked original "Audrey" to somehow trigger the Troubles with him, which is why she's allowed to keep helping the townspeople. This season has been incredible so far in how they're unfolding Audrey's story and connection to the Troubles. I really hope the showrunners actually have a timed, planned storytelling, like the recent Battlestar Galactica did, because I really want to see the entirety of this story.
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That was great! I loved it. Audrey definitely appreciated Doctor!Nathan. Maybe they can play doctor and nurse later. I LOL'd at the cheesy bed line (it was better than the "Trouble in my pants" line I thought they were going for, tbh).
ReplyDeleteCop!Duke was also awesome. Loved him. I love AU episodes and that one definitely did not disappoint.
Sorta saw "Audrey created the Troubles" coming, but that was surprising. And holy fuck at the end! Like it's kinda obvious now, but still didn't see that one coming.
Cannot wait for next week!
Not enough Nathan though!
ReplyDeleteThere's a trouble in your bed is the greatest pickup line EVER
ReplyDeleteI just can't get over that perfect first scene between Nathan and Audrey.
ReplyDeleteThe Nathan Audrey stuff was amazing, it's surreal watching them like that when I thought it's be years before they got together, William is being sooo creepy I really can't wait for them to get rid of him but with him being connected to Audrey that seems kinda difficult so nicely played
ReplyDeleteabsolutely loved it. best episode of the season
ReplyDeleteO.M.F.G WOW at the ending. The only thing that I didn't like was that Audrey didn't tell Nathan what William had said - that's unlike her, I would have thought she'd have told him everything.
ReplyDeleteSo this is what I got so far: William and created the troubles. As punishment William was locked in the barn and would get placed into Haven with new identity everytime (lexie/audrey/lucy/sarah/xxx). Agent Howard was either responsible for this or he was getting punished aswell. My idea is that this started a long time ago (not 100 but 1000 years or something). So hopefully we get a flashback episode soon.
ReplyDeleteNot exactly sure what their linked lives mean at the moment (other then you can't kill one without killing the other), but it must be some setup so they can't escape this 'curse' without both dieing.
the thing I liked most about the ending is that Nathan didn't learn the lesson about his trigger happy finger last time with the barn dying and Audrey back unscathed, but this was like a big cosmic gotcha!
ReplyDeleteAwesome episode! didn't see the whole Audrey creating the troubles thing coming at all. I definitely did not see the ending coming. So how are they going to get rid of William if they can't kill him without killing her and the barn has been destroyed? I really wonder how the original Audrey was. Especially after what William said. Why would she enjoy making the troubles? Unless he's lying, but I wouldn't think that he would seeing as it technically doesn't benefit him. I really wanna see what she was like back when that happened.
ReplyDeleteI think WIlliam's lying and he did it all by himself, but Audrey being who she is, volunteered to sacrifice herself and fix everything!
ReplyDeleteI so did not see that end coming, that's for sure! Awesome episode, I can not wait for the next one!!! :D
ReplyDelete"Trouble in my pants" Hahaha, reading that almost made me spill my drink LOL
ReplyDeleteWell, I might the be the only one who is actually really love evil William, which I'm okay will. This is a new side to Colin Fuerguson that we haven't seen before! So, Audrey and William created the troubles? Hmm…that's interesting! And that they're connected, really connected. Well, that's also interesting.
ReplyDeleteWe're finally getting answers but adding more questions. Only a couple episodes left to answer them all in. Let's hope all the questions will be answered!
Okay, so, during the one of the commercial breaks, my mom and I were talking about who's trouble it could have been and we were right for once! We were actually right! This was a first for us, we never try to figure it out but it was fun figuring it out!
I saw Audrey's original personality creating the troubles years ago I'm glad we finally know more now.
ReplyDeleteYes, Colin is a great actor! I hate William, but he's snarky and I also love him. I don't even think of him as Jack anymore.
ReplyDeleteIt was Audrey's idea that William needed to be killed not Nathan's. William went on a murdering spree and they needed to stop him. Nathan did not know William and Audrey were connected because Audrey did not choose to tell him.
ReplyDeleteNathan really shouldn't have a badge if he's going to shoot first and ask questions later. They should have just arrested William for the murder of Cliff - there was no reason to shoot him because their lives weren't at risk.
ReplyDeleteI've never seen any of his work before, but he's really really good on Haven! It's just his whole demeanour, and now that he's evil you can really see how great he is.
ReplyDeletethe best thing is, i know there's more to come :D
ReplyDeleteAudrey wanted to kill him too, so don't blame just Nathan (although he does need to think before he acts).
ReplyDeleteI think the linking up with each other was part of the punishment in case William ever managed to escape and try to bring his Bonnie i mean Original X back and continue what they started. Seeing as how Audrey past lives helped the troubles i'm assuming her punishment is to come back every 27 years for whatever the number of troubles they created...meaning if they created 50 troubles then it means Audrey would have to come back 50 times lol.
ReplyDeleteBut what if 27 years is exactly how many troubles they created?? If it's the punishment for her to come back and heal haven then how come the troubles manage to start before her return to haven??
Does this episode remind anyone else where a major character ended up in a different reality and tried to come back to the original reality??
ReplyDeleteTrue, but it was Nathan who shot him. I thought he would have learned his lesson after Agent Howard's death but I guess not.
ReplyDeleteIs it possible they could have been twins or siblings a long time ago that played a game and created a alternate universe "their trouble so to speak ".Recall William talking about the good times they had on that hill .Children playing may not have realized their powers
ReplyDeleteOr maybe they were the only survivors of some kind of catastrophe to their home world (or dimension), whose father had saved them by sending them away in some sort of interdimensional traveling device (the barn) and they spent thousands of years drifting beween various dimensions, sometimes touching one and sometimes touching another. Agent Howard could have been their trusty butler (or male nanny) and those two goons could have been bodyguards that their father provided when he sent them away to keep them from being destroyed along with their home world. Yikes - echos of Krypton!!!
ReplyDeleteFirst of all William is not even human, he is an evil creature and he has been killing people since he arrived to Haven. Nathan holds a badge? The Haven police department is run by vigilantes (the guard) it's not a real police department. Haven is a sci-fi show not a cop drama!
ReplyDeleteDuke went there to kill William too.
ReplyDeleteYou totally have a point,. While Audrey said they have to kill him I notice she wasn't the one who fired her weapon at an unarmed man.
ReplyDeleteThey were lovers, not siblings...
ReplyDeleteOMG could you be any more obnoxious? This isn't real life, and the Haven PD isn't evn run by Nathan but a bunch of wackos. Not to mention that HELLOOOOO William a)helped created the troubles, b)he has powers, c)he has 2 freaky guys and c)weird grey things that make people go crazy. Tell me which part of arresting William would have worked?
ReplyDeleteThe amount of stupid Nathan hate is beyond RIDICULOUS.
they all went there to kill him
ReplyDeletethe point is Nathan took the shot clearly out of jealousy which was awesome
we don't even know what the troubles were made for, they could have been something different in the beginning. I mean there's gotta be more to it than just getting a kick out of watching the world burn.
ReplyDeletein any case I think it'd be cool to watch a pissed off original Audrey realizing she's been imprisoned and mind raped for like a thousand years lol
I'm thinking the troubles were just a side effect of whatever William got Audrey into.
ReplyDeleteOut of love, not out of jealousy. There is nothing to be jealous of. even if Audrey and William had a thing, it is over now, since he is a villain and she hates him.
ReplyDeleteHow do you know their lives weren't at risk. This it William, with powers they know about and others they don't. I doubt that they would be able to arrest him without getting hurt, even if he doesn't have a gun.
ReplyDeleteHe's not lying, Brian Milikin said William is telling the truth
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ReplyDeleteGreat storytelling! This show is really great with their surprise twists. I loved the reveal by William, and the connection he has with Audrey adds a dangerous and interesting twist to the story. Audrey's never been hurt this badly on the show, so I'm glad that they chose to do it this way, since it's not just a throwaway event meant for drama, but instead, adds great future story prospects. Also, it seems like William's stretching the truth a little in regards to who's responsible for the Troubles. I bet he tricked original "Audrey" to somehow trigger the Troubles with him, which is why she's allowed to keep helping the townspeople. This season has been incredible so far in how they're unfolding Audrey's story and connection to the Troubles. I really hope the showrunners actually have a timed, planned storytelling, like the recent Battlestar Galactica did, because I really want to see the entirety of this story.
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