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Revolution - 1x18 "Clue" Overview & Speculation

May 22, 2013

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Hello Revolutionaries!

This weeks episode uniquely gives us an interesting military spin on the iconic murder mystery game and film, Clue!

I have had a pretty busy week thus far, so I hope you can forgive me in that I'm not going to fully recap the episode this week, as I thought it best to just discuss some things briefly, rather than have you wait till the end of the week for the article!

As I might have mentioned in other overviews, I've always been a sucker for trippy-like episodes and Nora's  drug induced state added another dimension in trying to figure out who starting murdering our team at the deserted military base. 


I have to say I totally didn't see Jim Hudson coming, even though, maybe I should have. In a lot of ways Jim Hudson had been the one thing that went right for Miles over the course of the second half of the season, but this betrayal parallels a lot of the material some of the smaller stories we have in recant episodes and even through out the whole season. In more specific context he's another Alec, but also he's like a lot of the scientists we have seen, as it's the Monroe Republic's M.O. to threaten the people they need with the lives of their families, such as Dr. Jaffy, Dr. Camp, and even Rachel Matheson. -But honestly, for me in this case I think Jim's perspective is a little absurd  only because the last time we checked, Sophie was pretty mad at him for lying about his past, even though he saved her life and tried to explain himself to her. Not that I blame him for wanting to save her life, but beyond that we've had no proof of reconciliation. I'm not sure his rage is really about her, or even if she is worth it?

But setting that aside, Jim Hudson also brought up a pretty good question. He suggested that Miles didn't really look for Nora in the 3 weeks she was gone. We have to ask ourselves as viewers why that would be?

For quite a while now I felt strongly that something ill-fated is coming for Nora primarily based on her hallucination sequence in "Kashmir", but also there have been hints to things relating to Nora's life like Texas, bombs, and bounty hunters, while her character had been looming in the background and now is pushing for the foreground and in the past couple of episodes has been acting a bit spontaneous, flippant, and/or suicidal.

It was also curious how Monroe choose to deal with Nora. He didn't threaten her with family (like her sister), as he has done with others. He tried to be civilized towards her. A tacit we rarely see, which might suggest there's something much more personal here between Monroe, Miles, and Nora. 

At any rate It's true that I don't know for certain if Nora's going to die by end of the first season, but if this alligator metaphor isn't a parallel to "The Plaque Dog's" and the death of Maggie, then what other kind of "unknown" could it be??? I know some fans tend to pick one love interest over the other in shows like this thinking of it as Nora verses Rachel, but I have enjoyed both characters and honestly would be pretty sad to see Nora go, --and not for Miles' sake, but her own. At the same time I can also see that the story is pushing to bring a broken/lost family together through process of elimination with the idea that Charlie is most likely Miles' daughter, and thus she is the the one who must be the force that redeems the wrong of her parents (and possibly a few other characters), but I can't deny despite seeing the writing on the wall that I wish there was some catch 22 with her death. 

And that brings me to what I feel the episode highlights. This murder mystery in the spirit of Clue makes us question the motives of  most the characters. It was hard to figure who did it, as Jason wanted to die pretty badly in last week's episode and now he has a connection to someone we don't know, Nora was severely beaten and on drugs having a hard time functioning normally, Tom has been exceptionally silent, and John Sandborn has been presented as incorrigible or imprudent. It all points out that the reality of Revolution is filled with uncertainty and distrust. And despite that it's true that Erik Kripke's influence seems to give us more straight forward plots and doesn't dwell to long on mystery, I can't deny that even though Jim Hudson is responsible for these specific deaths, that the other characters Jason, John, and even Tom still do not, or in Sandborn's case, did not have possible ill intent.

Thinking about John Sandborn, not knowing if he's just guy who always want to help and will turn on you at a moment's notice or someone who is truly loyal to Randall and his cause, I have to wonder if the drugs he gave Nora were what he said they were, and if they don't do anything else to her other than what we saw in the episode? Probably not, but it was just a thought.

Rachel's march into Monroe's camp was also just something totally unexpected! I have no idea how she or Monroe are going to get out of the situation or if the Nano tech is going to key in her survival to what might normally be considered deadly circumstances, but I guess we'll have to what and see!

And lastly it seems that Randell's 12 level facility most likely is The Tower, especially since the place he brought Monroe to is subterranean and he mentioned earlier to Monroe that there are all kinds of weapons the DOD commissioned that even the last President of the United States didn't even know about! It would go along with what we experienced a few episodes with Grace and the guard attempting to go to Level 12, only to be devoured (??) on Level 7! I'm not sure who's in the Tower and why Randell was locked out, but I'm curious to find out. Ultimately I liked the episode, as it was more character driven, has those trippy-other reality elements, and made us a take a pause to question, before we reach our hopefully climatic season 1 ending!!!

So what about you guys? Did you like the Clue-styled episode? Do you trust Jason, Tom, or the now departed John Sandborn?  Were you expecting Jim Hudson to turn on Miles? What do you think about Nora's drug-induced experience and relationship with Monroe  And how do think Rachel  isor Monroe going to get out of her predicament? Anything else you want to discuss sound off in the comments below!!!!

References: 
Clue or Cluedo is a 1949 board game devised by a children's entertainer from England, Anthony E. Pratt. The object of the game is move around the game board to strategically figure out who murdered Mr. Black in the mansion! In 1985 a film was made based on the game staring Tim Curry, but it also follows the style of other traditional murder-mystery dinner party games like Murder by Death.

Note: The Tower appears to reside in Colorado, and although the Tower is thought to be a reference to Stephen King's The Dark Tower, we also know that Stephen King's The Stand also has been referenced. Many King novels tend to tie into The Dark Tower including The Stand, as they both share extrademensional antagonist Randall Flagg, but also Colorado is an iconic place in The Stand.

Bad Robot Factor

In LOST episode 3x01 "A Tale of Two Cities" Kate Austen was one of 3 prisoner's captured by Benjamin Linus and the Others. Much like Nora in this episode, Kate was given a dress to wear, was forced to eat Breakfast (instead of dinner) with Ben, and was given a speech on why Ben would do this, as unlike Nora and Monroe's relationship, Ben didn't have any prior history with his captive.


Tale of Two Cities Transcript:
KATE: Why did you bring me here? Why did you make me put on this dress? Why are you feeding me breakfast?

BEN/GALE: I brought you here so you'd look out at the water and feel comforted -- comforted that your friends were looking out at the same ocean. I gave you the dress so that you'd feel like a lady. And I wanted you to eat food with real live fork and feel civilized. I did all of those things so that you'd have something nice to hold on tp. Because, Kate, the next two weeks are going to be very unpleasant.
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It's unclear if John Sandborn's intentions by bringing Nora back are in any way honorable or helpful for Revolution's protagonists, but given a parallel with this scene and this episode's murder mystery atmosphere, It's still something to consider.

Additionally, especially in the last couple of episode, Nora has been flippant in terms of her emotions. Kate Austen was often considered a character who's intentions were at times hard to see through, because in some cases she also comes off as contradictory, flippant, and/or having double standards. Kate was one of the few character's who's theme reflected the fear of being left behind and sometimes sought to leave others behind, before it could happen to her...

Season 3 and the capture of Kate, Sawyer, and Jack also featured the Dharma Station known as The Hydra! Like the scene with unknown people looking with camera monitors from within onto the outside of The Tower, Ben and the Others (including Juliet) could montor outside the Hydra station.


The Hydra is where The Dharma Initiative conducted experiments on animals, as it was a zoological station. Post the end of the series (Lost Epilogue: "The New Man In Charge") it is revealed that "The Hurley Bird" (Hy-Birds) was a genetically modified animal created there! There is also Room 23 which has brainwashing video. Even though we have seen a few characters exposed to it over the course of the series, it was suggested that Room 23 might not have originally been attended for humans and, besides Ben's claim that this video would help keep Karl from sleeping with his adopted daughter, Alex, fans still speculate at what the video actually does! -It also has a lot of references to Buddhism (Noble Truths), Judeo-Christianity, and evolution, such as "We Are The Cause of Our Own Suffering", "God Loves You, As He Loved Jacob", and "Everything Changes". Additionally the dingy-looking old school tech paired with something advanced is also a staple note of Bad Robot (Ex: Lost -  Dharma Stations with advanced electromagnetic properties and/or exotic matter/Ancient Temple with advanced electromagnetic water. Alcatraz - small dingy building with key pad hidden in the forest being the doorway to sleek highly advanced subterranean state of the art prison. Fringe - Forest with subterranean state of the art record keeping building, ect)

Note: The Tower, although more well hidden, is similar idea of Alias' DSR (Department of Special Research) secret facility that resides in Nevada.

The reason I went out of the way to emphasis things relating to the Hydra station is because of the possibility it could hint at things about to be explored on Revolution, such as the drugs Nora was given and whatever exists on Level 7.

Note: Other Dharma stations such as the Peal Station could monitor other stations such as The Swan or The Flame. The Flame could monitor things near the Island. A surveillance camera is also featured at "The Exit". 

There's a couple of times I also recall seeing an iconic grenade scene. In season 4 of LOST the 815-ers had split up into groups trying to figure out the Freighter groups intentions as John Locke sought to protect the Island and Jack sought to help get people off of it. The freighter group themselves were also split into two groups: The science team who had personal reasons to be there and the missionaries sent to capture Benjamin Linus and kill everyone else. In the beginning of the season the character Miles Straume get's into a predicament with John Locke, as he uses Kate Austen to get access to Ben. John resorts to locking Miles up in a boathouse, ties him up, and places a grenade in his mouth and pulls out the pin, until John retrieves him at a later time. Really when I think about it, LOST season 4 was very much like this Revolution episode and it's clue-like speculation, as it was hard to figure out what anyone aboard the freighter's intentions were.


The second time, also on LOST, is when the Other Mikhail blows up a grenade underwater where The Looking Glass Station resides, causing Charlie Pace to drown and die.


17 comments:

  1. Thanks so much for a great Overview! Bringing back all these memories of Lost and Alias,for once i remember those episodes w/o having to go to Wiki to 'refresh' myself,ha!

    I didn't see Jim coming! I thought he was going to become a permanent member of the group,or at least last a season or two.I'm not sure how i feel about all these 'disposable' characters,but we certainly are getting a lot of them,just wish a few would stick around a bit longer to fight the fight!

    I must admit i didn't pay attention to the first 15 minutes or so.Was Nora tripping from the drugs John gave her,or was it like a truth serum when she told Monroe 'everything'? Was it stated the kind of drug he gave her when he injected it into her neck? I have to watch the first half again,just being lazy asking you first,ha!

    My favorite part of the show was watching Rachel walk into Monroe's tent and seeing the look on his face when he saw Rahel was holding the grenade. When she flipped the pin with her finger i wanted to cheer! That right there reminded me of her character on Lost,brave,independent and Feisty! Come to think of it she also reminded me of Sidney!

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  2. Agreed, My favorite reunion on the show so far is the last scene with Rachel and Monroe. Brilliant, manipulative,fantastic,brave,strong, beautiful, and CRAZY or INSANE Rachel pulling a pin out on a grenade to end her internal pain and bringing Monroe down with her. Best two minutes of the episode by far!

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  3. Thanks for stopping by and glad to take you back! ;)

    Ya. Nora was trippy, but seemingly not in a hallucinatory sense, it was more like she was heavily sedated to try and break her conscience defenses down. It appears she also did things, like beat up Monroe, that she didn't remember until later. So her memory sensory and her physical disposition were definitely off through out the episode.

    But when it gets down to it, I don't trust John Sandborn. I think Randall is a guy who might have a following and if I were Randall, I would lead all my enemies to a place where I could kill them all in one swoop...

    With that being said "if" Sandborn was a divote', then who knows what exactly that drug did or continues to do to Nora, as it might be something advanced, but the other side of it is, that we also know that Monroe used pyscotrophic drugs in relation to experimental interrogation programs, so it's possible that Nora is hallucinating after all, especially since we have to wonder why John Sandborn was left to do the deed and considering we don't yet understand "how" Miles experienced Rachel's death, if there was an identical body, Rachel in a state of stasis, and/or if he was given drugs and conditioned into a certain state.



    Note: They also filmed Miles in an other than normal state during the air strike scenes last season. I think it's not a coincidence that these two characters have been put into these non normal states, as again I think these things tie back to "Kashmir", as Nora is moving towards her "unknown" and Miles is about to come face to face with Monroe again...


    Elizabeth Mitchell def rocked it in that scene! -It's very much like the gutsy Juliet! XD

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  4. Thanks for your overview:))) really enjoy it, especially the connections to LOST, I miss it so much:)


    This episode wasn't as interesting as I expected actually....

    I don't understand why Charlie didn't trust Jason when he asked for help. He saved her (or maybe like her) since 1x01, all these times. I remembered she questioned him once about throw her out of the train——I can't believe she didn't realize what Jason did was protecting her from Tom. What I mean is, Jason did a lot for Charlie but she's the only one can't see it. I feel sorry for Jason.

    In this ep, our characters show their unknown skills: Nora can repair the helicopter and Miles can fly it. How old is Nora when the blackout happened and when she learned that skill? I don't think Nora ever learned about fixing electric wire (I guess they only use wires as ropes during the blackout), not mentioned repair a helicopter. Even she did learn something after joining in the Rebels, did Rebels teach them about fixing machines to prepare for the days when power is back? I doubt it. Maybe writers just wanna show the importance of Nora for the group, but for me it didn't make sense.

    Rachel's suicide mission! I can't believe she really did that! She dedicated herself to the revenge, FOR DANNY, FOR BEN. the last two minutes saved the whole episode! I know they'll be fine but HOW DO THEY SURVIVE FROM THAT EXPLOSION?? hopefully we can have a reasonable explanation in next week. The other good part of this episode is we finally get close to THE TOWER!!! The people watching monitor inside the tower reminded me of THE OTHERS and i'm so excited:)))

    This episode is more like a subplot, preparing for the last two eps: the Rebels get rid of all minor characters, heading to the tower where Rachel&Aaron, Monroe&Randall are. I have high expectations for the rests:)

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  5. Sometimes I feel the intense between Monroe and Rachel is more interesting than others:) I can't image if Monroe catch Rachel again in the next episode what will he do to her:((

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  6. Hello! Welcome back!



    Although I would agree that I do think Jason cares for Charlie, which is evident by saving her life on occasion, Jason was introduced to Charlie under false pretenses, as he did lie about being a member of the Monroe Republic and was sent there to get information on Miles whereabouts. I also generally trust Charlie's intuitions and there have been times where she out right rejects his help. Again we see something shady here from him, as we learn that allegedly the man he was talking to, a member of the Monroe Republic, some how thinks he can ask Jason to kill Miles, which might be another reason why Jason didn't want Charlie to stay in Atlanta. Because we don't know who this guy is and why Jason feels he owes this guy is clearly something that we need to understand to figure out Jason's motives and to whom or what he is most loyal too, because we have to ask ourselves why is he still aligned with the Monroe Republic if he's suppose to be "a rebel" now???? There might be a good reason, but it remains to be seen and his not helping his relationship with Charlie by continuing to lie, let alone an a possible assassination
    attempt on her *cough* Uncle.



    Oh man, I have know idea how Rachel or Monroe are going to survive that. I almost wonder if it doesn't work to begin with and then suddenly it ends up somewhere else creating a blast that is survivable!? XD I'm glad the season is ending with the Tower!! It seems like a really good place to end it!! Very excited to see what all goes down there!!

    I was reminded of the Others too! I wish I would have time to rewatch LOST over the summer, but between some new shows, returning shows, and a couple rewatches for other shows returning in fall, I think I will have to wait a while before I can find time to rewatch it again! But I'm glad that there are little shout out to things LOST related. It helps keep it's memory alive!! :D

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  7. I don't know why I never questioned about Jason's loyalty before, but what you said is a good point:) I don't think there's enough time for his story this season, but hopefully we can see more about it in season 2:)

    About the explosion, I think your assumption is the only way to explain why they all can survive! So maybe the grenade doesn't work well lol and it means Monroe catch Rachel again? 0_0 For "the others" in the tower, I guess Rachel, Randall and Grace know these people before the blackout——we need more flashbacks:) It just crossed my mind that season 2 may have a storyline between our core crew and "the others":)

    Anyway, they're really good at cliffhanger and it's just an episode, how could I deal with the season finale and the hiatus:(((

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  8. I just rewatched the scene and actually it's not Monroe she assaults but some other Monroe Republic interrogator. Nora flashes back and suddenly remember's this, which @ the time when she tells Miles she could very well be the killer. (Sorry about Monroe - I had my own cocktail during the episode, so go figure!!) -But it still really doesn't change most of my argument, especially since John Sandborn also says the drug makes her paranoid and psychotic!


    I too hope we don't end up with a lot of known dead bodies. Nora would be bad enough, but acceptable, but everyone else I feel are still just too important to each other's stories to take them out at this point! ::fingers crossed::

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  9. Well I think Jason is pretty easy to like and the writers have been nice about not just making their relationship easy and throwing it in our faces all the time. It makes their story a little more realistic, as it seems to be a relationship that has to be earned or trialed and tested. I mean really he went out of his way to save Miles, so it seems like he is still willing to prove himself to Charlie.


    I also think one reason they have held off on Jason's story is also because he is meant to be a longer termed love interest, but I do hope in season two we get more character development from him! I would be beyond shock if they killed him in the finale! XD

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  10. Yep I agree it will end us on a high note. :)

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  11. She doesn't really care what he will do to her, she wants to die and would taunt him into to killing her. She's been playing him for years and knows what makes him tick. Remember I said she is observant to her enemies weaknesses and will play them to her advantage. She'll play him to open the doors because I think Rachel has a default password.


    Rachel has nothing to lose now, her grief and drive for revenge makes it all worth watching her do crazy things. I think that it's ironic that she is now a nano-tech super girl because no matter how much she wants to die I think the nanites will heal her. LOL

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  12. Or at least she has nothing to loose until her family arrives :p

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  13. I didn't see it coming because of the way he had been written and because he was the one thing keeping it turning back into "misadventures" so I was hopeful that he was on board. Plus Kripke doesn't really let us see or let us think about "outside the box" (he doesn't give many hints), so there would be no way for me to know that he is connected to the Monroe Republic. I haven't watched much Supernatural, but something tells me the SNL peeps are more keen to this kind of character and that's cool!


    But honestly, even if I know something from spoilers, or have a strong intuition about something, I never think that knowing something should be a reason to watch or not watch the episode.


    The past two episodes the production values have been better and this one had some nice choreography especially during the scene where John Sandborn stupidly made Jim Hudson right in front of him and Miles, only to be shot and Miles and Jim get into it, and Jason it the one who saves Miles life.


    I always enjoy character interactions, certain dialogues, and the way certain scenes are shot and not just seeing if I'm right or wrong about something.


    I think just because something might be predictable, doesn't always mean it's bad.

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  14. I didn't mean to imply you aren't keen to characters (and I did/do watch SPN, but pretty much everyone who isn't four certain characters on that show are up for being the bad guy) because you hadn't figured Hudson. I did it by process of elimination and that Hudson didn't seem happy Miles dragged him into it.



    And I'm definitely not saying predictable equals bad, either. I've watched several shows - several cartoons or kids shows, because I like lighter fare when I'm stressed out - which are VERY predictable and they always entertain me. It seemed like the other main plotline, outside of the Hudson reveal, was Nora's and I honest to God do not give a hoot about anything that happens with her.

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  15. I didn't take it as an insult, just was being honest that perhaps this is something that happens on SPN that I din't consider. Even though Jim was mad to begin with, I could not tell that he continued to be mad (there was no signs,and IMO Sophie was a lost cause), as even in this episode the reveal was that he was also black mailed into doing it, even though his actions in this episode also proved more hostile in that. I was hoping he would be an addition to the cast, not a last straw.

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  16. Kinda glad I didn't waste my time watching this one. I had Hudson figured two weeks ago.

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