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Once Upon a Time - Episode 2.20 - The Evil Queen - Sneak Peek 1 Extended*

26 Apr 2013

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Thanks to Alex and Lusiana for the heads up.

84 comments:

  1. and that's The Evil Queen's version of a Hero...

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  2. that's not the way regina. love you but you can not kill everyone expecting henry will love you

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  3. Heroes don't let innocent people die. Keep trying, Regina. You'll get it someday.

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  4. Yeah, killing everyone else will make you a Hero, the whole world knows that

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  5. Right. Henry will love you for killing Emma, Neal, Snow, Charming, Rumple, Red, Granny, Jiminy, Pinocchio, etc.

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  6. Oh right, I forgot it's everyone's fault but Regina's. Jesus Christ.

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  7. I CAN NOT with Regina blaming everyone else for all her problems and being dubbed the "Evil Queen". At this point she has LEGIT lost her mind.

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  8. Omg, regina,stop! This isn't the way to have henry's love back! Not if the price to pay for it,it's everybody's life! You can't do that!

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  9. Mrs. and Mrs. Sarcasm25 April 2013 at 04:36

    It's Cora impersonating Regina again. I refuse to believe otherwise.

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  10. Mrs. and Mrs. Sarcasm25 April 2013 at 04:37

    It's Cora impersonating Regina again. I refuse to believe otherwise. This must be a joke.

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  11. Mrs. and Mrs. Sarcasm25 April 2013 at 04:37

    mistakenly did this -_-

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  12. Abhiroop Saluja25 April 2013 at 04:41

    Umm Cora is dead...

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  13. Wow. She's actually, completely lost it.

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  14. Oh Dear, Someone needs some training in Hero attributes...
    Step one:
    Don't Kill The Relatives.

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  15. Regina is a special kinda whack job...

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  16. Mrs. and Mrs. Sarcasm25 April 2013 at 05:58

    I was being sarcastic (hence my username)...I guess you and the 6 people that liked your comment didn't catch on. Moving right along...

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  17. You wanna know what is really disturbing? The fact she is so absolutely sure she is doing the right thing, she even tells Henry about it. She truly expects him to understand, because, in her mind, he loves her, so he should be able to forgive.
    I'm not saying she IS right, she isn't, but this is all the more heartbreaking because she has NO IDEA.

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  18. Wow Regina I LOVE YOU bur how about NO killing everyone won't make you the hero...

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  19. Ok, does Regina truly believe Henry will be ok with that crappy argument? I mean, she's not an idiot, but she's acting like one

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  20. "They don't see the good in me."
    Yes,and after this sneak peek I'm losing sight of it as well.

    Regina is a great character but it's kind of scary how much she things that her way is the right one and that she actually believes she's a nice person/a hero.I mean,maybe she has the potential to be,I don't know,but right now she's nowhere close of being one.
    It's interesting that she's the only "villain" of the show that sees herself in that light.I mean,they all think they're somewhat justified in doing the things they do(and they are,in some cases) but at least they acknowledge the fact that they're not the most virtuous of characters.Rumple and Cora are prime examples of that,but even Hook,who hasn't done the things Regina has done,doesn't believe himself to be a good person.("Your heart is rotten." "You have no idea.")


    I think that's the tragedy of it.Maybe she can be a better person and maybe she can redeem herself in some extent but it's never gonna happen if she doesn't recognize her mistakes.

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  21. The way she speaks, the desperation in trying to explain it to Henry. She has completely lost her mind...
    The fear of being left behind is getting to her.

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  22. Oh swell, Regina's losing her mind again... :(
    Someone remind me what's the point of this again? Is it going anywhere? I get it, she's more heartbroken and desperate than she's ever been before, and she's completely unable to tell good from bad. But we've already seen this play out over and over again, and it's always quite painful to watch.

    How about they try taking it out on some other character for a while and give Regina at least a sliver of hope for a change? What happened to "even believing in the possibility for a happy ending is a very powerful thing"?

    Gosh, this is just depressing. :/

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  23. Well I guess the possibility of losing your child makes you mad.

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  24. I wonder what changes so this "wonderful" plan gets sinked. If it's simply the fact the Henry gets kidnapped BEFORE it comes to fruition or if the torture happens or there is going to be something else entirely. Whatever I kind of hope that this will be the bottom for Regina and after this the "real" redemption or rather the "let's get Regina to think healthier" arc starts.

    After this I gotta say I am pretty interested in how they will try to write THAT because she obviously needs help with it and not nessesary from an eleven years old. Maybe the whole relationship change with Emma will have something to do with that. Actually if we didn't know about the Neverland storyline I'd assume they are planning to throw her over the town line and have her forget the Evil Queen completely for a while. A completely new start could definitely help her and let's face it the show is in love with amnesia storylines...

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  25. I think what's awesome about this is that this is a perfect Regina, as she was constructed to be. Like, in the show, this is EXACTLY how Rumplestiltskin made her to be; so perfectly distorted that she can't make sense of logic. This is the exact same sort of logic that led her to casting the curse for him in the first place.

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  26. Throwing her over the town line wouldn't have her forget anything. They already covered that.


    But basically: WHERE IS ARCHIE!?

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  27. I'm with you on this! It's about time she got some help, whether it's from Dr. Hopper or Emma or someone new (who actually cares about her).

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  28. Guest-starring on other shows.
    I miss him, too, he was a positive influence on her.

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  29. I've seen him in so many other shows lately!


    But I miss Archie too. He should have/would have been the first person person reaching out to her because of Cora.

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  30. What I find really interesting about this is that this is the Regina Rumplestiltskin wanted, unable to comprehend wrong from right, willing to destroy everything for the chance of a happier ending, without conscious thought towards consequences.

    Also interesting is how she's the only one not lying to Henry any more. Like she flat out told him her plan even though it's an actual crazy person plan.

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  31. I've just seen him on The Good Wife so far, but I know he was also on Castle.

    Yes, indeed, Archie would have reached out to her. But I guess it would have hurt the plot if someone actually cared enough to talk to Regina, so it was more convenient for the writers to completely ignore the possibility.

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  32. He was on Chicago Fire too!


    Regina's story re: Cora didn't make any sense. I bet Archie had talked about Cora with Regina, that's why her file was GIGANTIC

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  33. I know she said that to Hook but I am not a 100% sure she was honest about it. Don't forget Cora was also there. She probably didn't want to give mommy dearest any ideas but that's not even my main reason. I think this because of how in Welcome To Storybrooke it seemed like she got memories from the curse. At least in the absence of her freaking out about technology and actually using it on multiple occasions (the telephone, the oven, the car) I jumped to that conclusion. And it's not HER curse. She may think it wouldn't affect her and it still could after all originally it affected her the exact same way like it affected everyone else minus wiping any of her memories...

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  34. I can't even watch the sneak peek. I just feel so sorry for Regina, because all she wants is to be loved and to love someone in return but because of her upbringing and the influence she was under that is nearly impossible for her. What she went through in the last couple of episodes was so traumatic. She lost her mother and now Henry is getting closer to his father and all the people Regina hates. She must feel terribly alone. I think the fear of losing Henry for good was the final push for her.

    Hopefully, Regina will realize that she can't go on like this and seek help. I don't believe she will be able to move her life in the right direction without a friend that truly cares for her and helps her to better herself. Regina is one of the characters I truly love and I can't stand her being this upset and helpless :(

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  35. I've thought about this a lot.

    She DID get memories from the curse, but not a new identity. Crossing the line erases the real life and replaces it with the cursed identity. But because she didn't actually have a cursed identity, just information on how the world worked, there'd be nothing for her to revert to. I suppose the only way that Regina would know that is if she crossed over the line before. I think it's been confirmed by Eddy and Adam, but I don't know if that actually means anything because they go back on what they say a lot.

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  36. Yes! That's what makes it disturbing. Regina does absolutely everything to the extreme, including love. For her, the consequence of love is "nothing else matters, all can be forgiven". She was like that with Cora, also with her father (she killed him because she expected him to understand that was what she NEEDED to do, and I do believe she thought he would forgive her) and she expects the same thing from Henry.


    She was absolutely right when she told him in We Are Both: she doesn't know how to love very well. I hope he remembers that. Because her being wrong and him not going along with the plan is not the problem, the problem is him not understanding she honestly doesn't know what to do and this, as sick and twisted as it may sound, is her way of showing her love. Someone has to teach her it is not the way to go about things, but up until now, NO ONE, absolutely nobody was willing to do that. Except for Daniel. But then he died. *sigh*

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  37. Hehe, that is quite ironical. Dark curse that reboots everyone's memory and gives you a completely different life is as close as it gets from a deprogrammer. It didn't wipe Regina's memory, but it did wipe everyone else's recollection of her.

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  38. It is so immensely satisfying to enter this comment section and see people NOT defending her insanity. I caught so. much. crap. for not worshiping the ground Regina walks on and for pointing out that she hasn't do anything good enough to warrant people constantly ignoring that she's a mass murdering psychopath.


    Yes, her understanding of what love is is extremely skewed due to how she was raised, and how Rumple messed with her head. I get that, but that doesn't excuse her actions even a little bit. It's still a little bit disturbing that it took Regina pretty much outright telling Henry that she wants to murder everyone he loves for it to finally click for a lot of people.


    This is not new information! She's been doing it since the first episode and people excused her actions every single time.

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  39. Well... We all know she will not !

    Will she change her mind or will she be betrayed and abducted by Hook/Tamara/Greg?

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  40. They,they,they its always THEY..Wake up Regina!!


    But i love Lana!

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  41. Well,seeing the non-extended version I didn't think there was a possibility for Regina to make things worse.And yet...

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  42. *lol* You honestly think people who disagree with you think you are asked to "worship the ground Regina walks on"? Nice and easy way to write other opinions off, I bet.

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  43. I'm a Regina fan but I'm tired of her keep saying the Charmings made her this way when is she going to realize that her mother and rumple made her the way she is and she taking it out on Snow because she is a easy target for her pain because she doesn't want to admit to herself that her mother was heartless and didn't care about her happiness and I wish she realize that Henry does love her but doesn't trust her also wish she realize that Henry can love her and his bio family too and to me if she want to change and not be the villian anymore she need to show the town that she can be good person because she was once until Cora and Rumple manipulate her I mean how is anyone going see her change when she doesn't interact with anyone for them to see she doesn't show a interest into people try to make friends I do think Regina is good parent because she does tell Henry the truth even though he doesn't like what she saying I think Emma is good parent to but she needs to understand that kids can handle the truth they may not like it but they can handle it and even accept it I really hope this week episode that someone call Regina out on her crap I hope that someone is Snow I mean I love Regina and Emma scenes but my favorite scenes are with Regina and Snow

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  44. they should all start using the word "we" more.

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  45. Yeah, great. Another person who thinks I believe I have the magical ability to invalidate people's opinions. Their right to have an opinion, and definitely to express it, is in no way changed just because I don't like their opinion. People don't like my opinions, that doesn't mean I jump to stupid conclusions about them when they disagree with me.


    And for the record, considering the number of times I have been downvoted to oblivion for merely suggesting that Regina should be held accountable for her actions, I don't think I'm being unreasonable in the whole "worshiping the ground she walks on" thing. People have gone batshit insane over the whole her being his mother issue. Each time a character on the show expresses any level of doubt in her right to be considered Henry's mother, an avalanche of hatred is directed at them.



    So whatever point you were trying to make, I think you need to make it better.

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  46. while I agree with a lot of what you wrote, it's MEGA HARD to read it without any punctuation signs whatsoever...

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  47. Yes!! They could all use a wake up call! Sometimes i feel like i am watching an adult version of Fractured Fairytale,except its not a cartoon!

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  48. Regina seems to be having a nervous breakdown, she has no one to talk to and is completely alone, while Gold who got Snow to murder is being treated like family. She tried being good but was set up by Cora and the Charmings to use magic and wouldn't even let her defend herself. Regina was tortured as a child by Cora, had her true love killed in front of her and was forced against her will to marry the king and most likely raped by him. I don't think she is evil, Just very damaged.

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  49. And I would also like to point out how stupid the voting feature is. In this post I pretty much said "Everyone deserves an opinion and nothing I say should change that" and I'm still downvoted. Either people are downvoting me because they skipped over that part and only saw the part about Regina, or they're just being hateful.


    It's perfectly fine to disagree with me, but if you're going to prove my point at the same time at least have the conviction to do it with words. Any idiot can press a button.

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  50. I would say it's because you're coming across like a jerk. Since you asked for the conviction to do it with words.

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  51. I'm extremely logical and more than a little arrogant. As for being a jerk, that depends on the subject. The utter laziness in clicking a button instead of telling me why they disagree is certainly something that makes me into a jerk. Their opinions mean nothing if they don't actually give an opinion, which just on its own completely negates the point of having the vote feature in the first place.


    Plus, I give logical reasons for why I think the way I do, and it's a little annoying when the response I get in return usually boils down to "Well that's just my opinion" as if that's supposed to somehow make me respond with "Well hey man, I'm sorry for having an opinion about your opinion. My bad. I shall now respect your opinion that I shouldn't have an opinion of my own that doesn't match yours."


    So yes, about that I'm a huge jerk. Actually, there's a far more colorful word to describe me, but I gotta watch out for kids. But you see, you left an opinion instead of just clicking a button and this response is a lot nicer. Funny how that works.

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  52. I meant a jerk in your original comment, which is basically aimed at fellow viewers, not the actual clip. I could not care less if you don't like getting downvoted.

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  53. I don't really see the memory barrier as a plothole though. From what i understood, this was the price of bringing magic to storybrooke and not really a result of Reginas curse- that anyone who went beyond it would revert back to their cursed memories. I think Gold said as much to belle in the crocodile episode.

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  54. Yes, the insane parts of her personality are getting dominant again, because of the new overwhelming (fear/stress-)situation: the possibility of losing Henry forever and with no other friends/loved ones around her: "Because not having someone, is the worst curse imaginable".

    Cora killed the most important person in her life (Daniel) and told her, she's done that because she loves her and wants her best. Because she couldn't turn her rage against her mother, she made herself believe her mother were right (twisted concept of motherly love).
    Her father wanted to start new again, just the two of them, before she killed him to enact the curse. I think she regrets his murder deeply.

    The conversation with Henry and her way of thinking seems like a mixture of these two experiences...Oh my...Emma should come to rescue;)!

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  55. That's not the plothole. The plothole is the way it's been used.

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  56. She told him the truth knowing fully well she was going to erase his memory afterwards, so to me, that doesn't count as being honest..

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  57. How do you know that? It looks to me that he didn't react well so she changed tack and decided to erase it.

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  58. OK.. she told him the truth knowing fully well that if he didn't react well, she would erase his memories. In order to be truly honest with someone, you have to be willing to accept every possible outcome. She's basically cheating. Plus, only a psychopath would actually believe that someone would go along with such an evil plan.

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  59. Ah, no "only a psychopath" wouldn't.

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  60. If you watched the clip, she gave you the answer: She has no one else to talk to. Sad but true.

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  61. Actually, what I'm saying is she is not inhuman, she is TOO human.

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  62. This "curse failsafe" sounds interesting. I wonder if it'll work exactly as Regina thinks it will. Perhaps everyone won't die, but just be transported back to a modified version of FTL, like a mash-up FTL-Storybrooke combo. A reset similar to that would totally make me eager for Season 3.

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  63. She's immaturely human -- everything is about her and what she wants, and she is willing to hurt everyone else, including Henry, to get it.

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  64. Guys it's just a TV show and love her or not, she will have an happy ending so... No need to debate ! Regina offers us lots of feelings and that's enough for me :')

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  65. I kinda feel sorry for Regina she really think she doing the right thing for Henry. But thing get in the way for her. But for me something missing with this season. I don't know what it is but it kinda boring for me. Dose anyone else feel that way?

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  66. Wow, she is completely delusional ...

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  67. There are so many sneak peeks that I think they are showing the whole episode but in parts. Is this a sign of desperation or something?

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  68. They always show 5 sneak peeks. And in season 1 they often showed the first 10 minutes of an episode...remember?

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  69. Being immature is one of the most human things out there, but, yes, she is. And I'd disagree on hurting Henry. She ends up hurting him, but it's not her goal (and I don't think she even realizes she is doing it). As I said, very screwed up.

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  70. She's way too desperate and trying way too hard.

    Sad part is I honestly think if the Charmings and Emma weren't so militant in keeping Henry from her she'd be more sensible.

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  71. these are pretty much normally 10 first minutes of the episode anyway

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  72. The hell Regina, seriously I wonder if she fell on her head >.> C'mon I get being upset they hid that from you, but this isn't the way to go about it *sigh*. The episode better damn well give us some better explanations.

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  73. Regina....*facepalm*

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  74. Or if I am rephrasing: Crossing the line erases the real life and replaces it with the memories the curse gave. THAT could affect Regina, she would just completely forget everything except for knowledge about the modern world so basically she'd have a normal amnesia. Could be fun having a blank Regina reacting to magic and the whole fairy tale deal.


    Correct me if I am wrong but the memory barrier wasn't there before the curse broke. It's one of the big plot holes because there is absolutely no reason for it to exist specially because the curse is not in place anymore. Though Regina can still manipulate memories and give people complete backgrounds not to mention use a fail safe in it. Makes you wonder how broken the curse actually is. Anyway, she could have left Pre-Emma-Storybrooke and she still couldn't be sure how crossing the town limits would affect her now.

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  75. Let me die as Regina8 April 2014 at 04:32

    Regina is truly desperate ! I feel very bad for her... She's a mess !
    I hope they will give her a little hope ! :'(

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  76. Yeah, pretty much. Although belle went back to being blank like she was before the curse broke, so shouldn't it be more like sending you back to how you were DURING the curse?

    You're right about it being a big plothole. But this whole show is a giant plothole at this point.

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  77. Denise Lynette8 April 2014 at 04:32

    That looks like the beginning of the scene on the 'Good to Be Queen' music video where it is showing Regina casting a spell on Henry.

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  78. Gah, I also realized that re: what you said about her expecting him to understand is exactly the way she felt about her mother. She was able to forgive Cora everything because she loved her completely and without condition. And she is so unhealthy mentally that she can't comprehend being able to say you love someone without being able to forgive them completely for any transgression.

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  79. What's sad is Henry and Archie are the only voices of reason in either Regina or the Charmings' lives. Archie is easily excluded and Henry is a child a prone to hypocrisy because he doesn't understand.

    She was raised by Cora to find violence and emotional manipulation forms of love and then conditioned by Rumple to be exactly what she is now. Yet she's maintained the sweetness and naivete in the absolute most toxic of ways. You see the same kind of thing from Charming. Not to the 'let everyone die' type way that Regina currently is at, but in the way where he literally cannot understand why everyone doesn't want exactly what he wants or understand that achieving his happiness might be unhealthy to everyone else.



    At this point Regina needs a deprogrammer.

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  80. Agreed,good post!

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  81. Even a kid as young as Henry sees how sick his mom is. How can she burden this young child with crap like that. These story tellers are awesome. They do an awesome job of showing how evil Regina is. LOL

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  82. I agree with you. She killed an entire village looking because they wouldn't give the Queen information about where Snow White was hiding. She is sick.

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  83. 100% right. She is delusional. Magic came with a price, I believe the price was Regina's humanity. She killed an entire village looking for Snow White.

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