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POLL : What did you think of Grimm - Mr. Sandman?

23 Mar 2013

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55 comments:

  1. Megan_B23 March 2013 at 02:06

    the snakes eating eyes were just nasty


    That's ok, I wasn't planning to sleep tonight anyway xD
    And aawwww at Juliette's memories coming back

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  2. Historical_Materialist23 March 2013 at 03:16

    Uninspired and unoriginal. Juliet seeing visions of Nick is a pale shadow of what was effectively the same premise from Fringe with Olivia seeing visions of Peter after he was erased from existence. its supposed to evoke the notion that their bond transcends space, time and the mystical. That its eternal. It was Olivia and Peter's love for each other that literally willed him back into existence. Fringe showed us how ideas like this are done well. Grimm....not so much (and that's being generous)

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  3. Linlighthouse23 March 2013 at 03:19

    A good, solid, X-file-like episode. I felt so sorry for poor Kelly whose eyes were eaten out. And Nick was pretty cool, fighting the watchamacallit monster while blind. And talk about courage--how bold was Juliette, talking down her ghost? Me, I'd be running down the block, screaming. But we're seeing a new side of Juliette, and it's very interesting.

    I couldn't care less about Adalind and her royal baby.

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  4. Bruce_F23 March 2013 at 03:57

    This is a faulty comparison. The circumstances are completely different. You're trying to compare recovering memories of a man who had been completely erased from all existence to what basically amounts to amnesia resulting from some witchy hoodoo. That's like comparing a firecracker to a grenade.

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  5. Bruce_F23 March 2013 at 04:03

    "I couldn't care less about Adalind and her royal baby."
    That character has taken a very uninteresting turn.

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  6. Historical_Materialist23 March 2013 at 04:08

    You clearly didn't understand my post so you should try reading it again. Its pretty obvious the circumstances aren't the same. I haven't said they are. The CONCEPT is the same; that of two lovers forced apart by other worldly forces who are kept together by their eternal bond. One did it well; Grimm didn't. So your metaphor at least is correct: one show did have the emotional punch of a hand grenade, the other of a mere firecracker.

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  7. Bruce_F23 March 2013 at 04:12

    No, I got it right. There's nothing other-worldly going on over at Grimm and there's no trying to make Nick and Juliette into some epic eternal bond. The concept isn't the same. You're trying to square peg this situation.

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  8. magnutude23 March 2013 at 04:21

    Loved it. Totally gnarly with the eye eating worms and the fly eyeball scoopage, but loved that the attack enhanced Nick's abilities (finally loved seeing him training again - he might want to get Hank into the training program as well). Liked the pairing of Juliette and Rosalee as it made Juliette useful to the ep and more Rosalee is good by me. The assault on the captain (unless it was just a vision-they never came back to that) by the hexenbeist felt a bit random unless this is part of Adalind's plan.

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  9. wolf starr23 March 2013 at 04:37

    How can it not be awesome? Hooked worms eating people's eyes. Flies licking people's tears. Adalind being totally wicked. Renard having nightmares. Juliette going crazy. Awesome, just awesome.

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  10. Dahne23 March 2013 at 05:26

    Ugh! This episode was nasty and the biggest effect it had on me was making my skin crawl and my new desire for industrial sized Raid cans.

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  11. Dahne23 March 2013 at 05:45

    I liked Rosalee and Juliette together too. I hope they get more scenes together.

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  12. Dahne23 March 2013 at 05:46

    Add me as a third. Of course I haven't liked her since she came back from the dead. Character resurrections do that to me.

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  13. Dahne23 March 2013 at 05:50

    Agreed Bruce. For me it has nothing at all to do with a cosmic love breaking through the supernatural. Instead it shows that the love/obsession spell is wearing off so she is beginning to remember things again. I take it as a positive sign that we will soon put the amnesia story line in the rear view mirror.

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  14. prpleight23 March 2013 at 09:30

    Regarding Adalind. I also agree. It's almost never very interesting to take a character who recurs in a very specific story and bump them up to a regular.

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  15. prpleight23 March 2013 at 09:42

    This episode landed in the high marks group of Grimm episodes for me. Aside from trying to figure out how The Sandman could go without being caught for more than 5 minutes given his non-stealthy hunting methods.


    But he was really creepy...(he gave my best friend way too much ammo with which to torture me.) There were some great images...the woman in the hospital with the parasites coming out of her eyes. I liked the character design. Cutting his eye out while he was alive? Shiverworthy...and kinda....justice.


    And what's gonna happen to her. Was she just doomed to die? Were the parasites going to keep eating or stop at her eyes? Was she going to turn into one of those [I can't spell it. :-) ] It was another one of those eps where it felt like they had to edit stuff for time. It's been a while since I watched an ep and had that feeling. Oh, and I Seriously Heart Casey! She was awesome.


    Weirdest dialog... "I knew your mother well." "Me, too." That is the most bizarre response to that statement I have ever heard.


    I'm actually liking the way Juliette is getting her memory back.

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  16. prpleight23 March 2013 at 09:44

    I thought the Renard's assault was a dream/hallucination....a milder (or perhaps alternate) version of what Juliette is going thought...to show that he was affected by that potion as well just in a different way.

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  17. prpleight23 March 2013 at 09:45

    lol...now I'm going to start checking your Grimm posts to see if we have the same agree/disagree ratio that we have regarding Supernatural.

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  18. phnxgrl23 March 2013 at 11:27

    That was one nasty wessen!

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  19. Linlighthouse23 March 2013 at 14:08

    "Amnesia story line in the rear view mirror." Hope so, and that goes for Belle on OUaT as well.

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  20. Dahne23 March 2013 at 14:26

    Of course, we will disagree most of the time if Supernatural is any indication. It will be fun trading opinions with you. :-)

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  21. Dahne23 March 2013 at 14:27

    That was my take too. It would seem that if one of them was having hallucinations, they both would.

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  22. Dahne23 March 2013 at 14:29

    Amnesia plots never work. On any show. I stopped watching OUaT because Emma and Henry annoyed me to no end. Did it get better on that front? I saw it was on Netflix streaming but don't want to waste my time if I am going to keep hating the main character.

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  23. Dahne23 March 2013 at 14:31

    It felt to me that her story was at an end so it baffles me why they brought her back from the dead. I agree about letting characters go after their story has ended.

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  24. Dahne23 March 2013 at 14:31

    I agree about Monroe spewing his words all over Nick in the spice shop. I thought it was hilarious as was Rosalee putting a stop to it.

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  25. Megan_B23 March 2013 at 15:21

    I have to say....I hope someone stealed and kept the wessen's '57 Impala *_*

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  26. Helena Ahlstrom Jole23 March 2013 at 16:07

    I was seeing a lot of similarities between this episode and "Tarantella" (the one with the spider lady). Same guy wrote both.

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  27. Historical_Materialist23 March 2013 at 16:20

    Sure. Whatever you say. Nothing otherworldly going on over at Grimm. No, this show is only about mythical creatures, witchcraft and personal destinies yet to be fulfilled. Nothing otherworldly, supernatural or otherwise fantastical about that. Nothing otherworldly about the female lead of the show falling under a diabolical spell cast by a witch that only one of pure heart can break but was co-opted by nefarious means by one of the antagonists. Sure that's all standard procedural drama stuff there. There's a square peg here for sure. Can you guess what i'm referring to?

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  28. Compass_123 March 2013 at 16:42

    There were scenes I didn't like this episode.. first, the sister sees the wesen. Hank is there, Rosalee is there, but nobody tries to talk to her about what she saw. Second, what was the point of Renard's dream scene?

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  29. magnutude23 March 2013 at 17:21

    that was a pretty sweet ride... lol

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  30. magnutude23 March 2013 at 17:22

    good point, I had not thought that that he might be experiencing side effects as well

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  31. C P23 March 2013 at 17:32

    Yeah I was so grossed out and creeped out. I thought for sure I'd have a nightmare last night about worms coming out of people's eyes, but I guess after Supernatural my mind is used to this stuff. :P

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  32. C P23 March 2013 at 17:33

    Ha, I don't disagree with Dahne as much with SPN, but Grimm we seem to agree with everything. XD

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  33. C P23 March 2013 at 17:35

    I think they got better, Emma is kick-butt, but I'm not sure what you'd consider good enough to watch so *shrugs*.

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  34. Ereth Reetnith23 March 2013 at 18:23

    Nick, Monroe, Hank and Rosalee make an awesome team! i think my fav scenes (besides Nick fighting blind, which was so cool!) were the four of them discussing the royals over dinner and then Hank, Nick and Monroe doing research in the trailer :D

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  35. Dahne23 March 2013 at 21:36

    I was referring to Emma and Henry. Sorry I wasn't clear. I may check it out again starting after the tunnel episode. At that point I was hoping Emma and Henry would both be trapped in it forever.

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  36. Dahne23 March 2013 at 21:38

    I am not that into gross so when any show goes there I get easily squicked out.

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  37. Dahne23 March 2013 at 21:38

    I think I was too tired for a creative nightmare. Instead I keep looking around for bugs today. :-)

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  38. Dahne23 March 2013 at 21:40

    Bwah! Totally agree. Perhaps it will go on auction and Wu can get it. He deserves something nice in his life and he seems to know his cars.

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  39. Dahne23 March 2013 at 21:40

    That was one of my favorite scenes too. I like this crime squad they've created. It's like their own anti-evil family.

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  40. Linlighthouse23 March 2013 at 21:44

    I missed a bunch of episodes also. I don't think I saw the Emma and Henry in a tunnel scenario, but Emma and MM were caught somewhere for a while. They got out. In a later plotline, however, Rumpel stepped over the boundary line (because he can) and Belle leaned over to kiss him and accidentally stepped over the line. Now she has no memory of anyone. It's magic amnesia again.

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  41. prpleight23 March 2013 at 21:44

    "Would anyone like some more...I'll take that as a yes." I love that the relationship has begun to really feel like a friendship.

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  42. prpleight23 March 2013 at 21:48

    Oddly, Supernatural has only creeped me out maybe twice in 8 seasons. Actually, I don't gross out. There's a piece of my brain that always knows it's special effects. But bugs and the SOUND of bones snapping...will get me every time. ;-D


    Never tell your best friend what freaks you out.

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  43. prpleight23 March 2013 at 21:57

    But did she? They've kept the indications of when regular people can see the wesen side of a person so vague that it's difficult for the audience to tell...except by the regular person's reaction. (It's the thing I had to just *give* the show in order to enjoy it)


    Was he still in full volge when he got down the stairs. The way Monroe explained it to Hank it sounded like there was a certain amount of intent required for regular people to see the Wessen. If that is the case then the fall down the stairs could have taken him out of the realm that Casey could see the his wesen side. That was the only conclusion I could come to because she wasn't screaming that she'd just seen a monster or asking what was he. So I figured she didn't see the fly. Just the man who hurt her sister and tried to hurt her.

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  44. Ahnjayla23 March 2013 at 22:05

    Obi won ken obi and Yoda would be proud of Nick................Jedi Grimm..............love this show!

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  45. Ahnjayla23 March 2013 at 22:08

    Juliette will come out of this with her memory intact and be in the know with the gang ......can't wait it has to happen soon I hope

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  46. Compass_123 March 2013 at 22:15

    We saw him turn back only after she stabbed him. They should've made him turn before he went down the stairs in order to not even raise such doubts but instead, they left him in his wesen form to make it more creepy and I found it sloppy.

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  47. Dahne24 March 2013 at 01:16

    I don't understand the appeal of magic amnesia to writers except if they write themselves into a corner and need to get out. For me amnesia is similar to "it's all just a dream" which has never worked in any TV show ever.

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  48. Dahne24 March 2013 at 01:19

    Oooo so you have one of those evil best friends. They can sometimes be the best. Season 8 hasn't grossed me out near as much as some other seasons. Bugs are the first way to do it though. Actually anything microscopic that moves on its own makes my skin crawl too.

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  49. Dahne24 March 2013 at 01:20

    I think Juliette's reaction will be interesting but I'm not sure yet how she is going to react.

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  50. prpleight24 March 2013 at 02:21

    Exactly. The rules are unclear. I completely agree with you...it's sloppy to have rules in your universe that leaves people trying to figure out what you intend in a scene. The only time the audience should be trying to figure out what's going is when that is part of the story. I'm not happy about it but it is something they specifically set up...I'm betting so they could have moments like this specific scene...where a wesen is showing his true fact but the secret doesn't get blown.

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  51. prpleight24 March 2013 at 02:23

    oh and bugs that look like they're as smart as people. That spider in Arachnophobia completely freaked me out.

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  52. Linlighthouse24 March 2013 at 12:23

    I think neither Casey nor the two victims saw the wesen, but we did. The audience always sees the wesen when Nick does, but everyone else is asking why Nick attacked that innocent person. The showrunners want us to see things from a Grimm's point of view.

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  53. chris68424 March 2013 at 12:53

    I liked the episode. Good MOTW, good guests. I also like the scenes among our gang - the dinner, Juliette reaching out to Rosalee. Awesome that Nick gained a new fighting power from this. Did that last scene remind anyone else of Buffy?

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  54. Rin22524 March 2013 at 15:47

    Casey seemed to have a good head on her shoulders. When fighting off the wessen, she knew to cover her eyes. I wouldn't be surprised if she saw the fly and just didn't get a chance to ask. They never really tied up her character at the end.

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  55. luci7524 March 2013 at 21:34

    big minus for Czech flag on the hotel in Austria

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