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POLL : What did you think of Supernatural - Man's Best Friend With Benefits?

21 Feb 2013

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  1. "That was incredibly hot," then Sam replies weakly "That was pretty hot."
    It's rare to see Sam indulging with Dean's sexual opinions.

    And I see, there is a price to pay for being the chosen one. I guess Dean is right.

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  2. That was interesting! Whoa, Sam, do not be hiding that from your brother! Tell him the truth this time.

    Porsche and James' relationship was surprising, and Dean seemed awfully interested.

    Can't wait for next week!

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  3. Not one of their strongest, in my opinion. It didn't really command my attention. And the worst may have been that grown ass man comparing James and his familiar to Bella and Edward.

    I did love Dean's speech at the end, though. It's good that he's trusting again, and that he's letting go a bit. Sam's realization at the beginning that Dean only really trusts himself was heartbreaking. And because it's Supernatural, Sam is clearly NOT okay. I hope he tells Dean soon, or all hell's going to break loose... maybe literally.

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  4. I really liked it!!!Loved the sexual jokes :P Sam's responses were hilarious!!!And I loved the effects!!!The scene with the astral projection and the one with Sam and Dean locked inside their heads were...EPIC!!!Once again the boys broke my heart with their talks...:'( But I am glad Dean told Sam he trusted in him.But Sam...He will now hide his physical weakness...:( This time is different though.I do not blame him for the secret.He can't tell Dean when he knows Dean will have to endure it too.And he has to show that he is strong enough to do it.OMG...This season is so awesome!!Can't wait for next week.It seems a very interesting episode.

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  5. Good things: They're sticking with the supernatural-creatures-are-people-too theme. Dean trusts Sam.
    Bad things: Literally everything else. Seriously, what even.

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  6. This episode made my skin crawl and not in a good way. The characters were awful and I couldn't understand why I should care about them. Very sub par episode.

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  7. What, and break an eight-season pattern?

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  8. LOL. That is why he should know better now! It never ends well for him when he does stuff like this. Same for Dean.

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  9. And....well....but....if....ahhh the hell with it. The spitting up of the blood reminded me of playing ball or a really good work out. Maybe a bar fight or two. Good to know Kevin isn't anywhere close to what the second trial is.


    Getting that "here's episode 20, HOLY CRAP! We've got two trials and the slamming of the gates to deal with in three episodes and almost forgot about Naomi and Cas and Crowley. Oh wait a minute, we've got Season 9. Whew.".

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  10. I loved it, the scene at the first with the dog and Sam, then woman on bed and the look on their faces were so funny.


    I loved the Bella/Edward comment.


    Sorry Sam, but you really don't understand why Dean does not trust you??? So many reasons and I can see another one coming along.


    I have missed the good talks in and around Baby, want this to continue...please.

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  11. Well that stunk. lol It felt like taking 10 steps staight back into season 7 again, with all the character develpment of the last 3 episodes erased.

    What is with the show resolving issues, only to reverse it all in the very next episode? Dean doubting Sam after he trusted him last episode, and Sam lying to Dean again one second after Dean offered his trust. Just ugh...

    This reminded me of the crappy "Fallen Idols" right after the great brother scene that closed "The End". Or like the "Girl Next Door" following up the "stone" scene in "Hello Cruel World".
    And this writing team is so damn shallow, in everything they write. And two dimensional. And the brothers always dumbed down.

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  12. It was an alright episode. Nothing ground-breaking, but I didn't think it flowed from last week. I think it focused too much on the guest characters, but James and Portia were good. But I was really annoyed with the flashbacks. Why were of other characters point of views? John saw Mary from the ceiling (and even if you do believe that Dean saw Mary on the ceiling, he was never in the room, so he would have seen it from a completely different angle. And if you are like me and don't think Dean saw Mary on the ceiling, then how could the witch use it) And Sam didn't watch himself and Adam jump into the pit like that! (He was on his way into the cage!) Why didn't they use Sam and Dean's point of view? I can excuse the Hell ones, because there isn't any other footage. However, there is plenty of footage for Sam and Dean watching bad stuff happen. Like "No Rest for the Wicked" or "All Hell Breaks Loose, Part One." I mean, maybe they could have reverse it and use the "Swan Song" footage for Dean and used Jess for Sam (or used Mary being thrown against the wall in "All Hell Breaks Loose, Part One." I don't get it.


    I really hope we're not back on the brothers trust/lying issues merry-go-round. But it looks like it's coming back. Why? Can't we just let them be trusting honest brothers for a little while.

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  13. I loved the episode but I agree that a "grown ass man comparing James and his familiar to Bella and Edward" was a low point. May I quote you for my recap?

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  14. Certain!! Is a damn ping-pong of ….trust, don't trust, tell, don't tell….

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  15. Wow, that sucked. A lot. I am uncomfortable with the whole bestiality theme. The brothers went 10 steps backward in their bond again, because 10 episodes of that wasn't nearly enough I guess. I wanted all the guest stars to kill each other off and once again the brothers were wallpaper in someone else's story. Even racist killer truck had better moments than this Buckner and Ross-Lemming fiasco. I can only hope this one gets better on the rewatch since I have to watch it at least 2 more times. Ugh!

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  16. Getting the same feeling. The standalone episodes really suck this season so let's get back to the mytharc where at least there's something interesting going on.

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  17. You captured my feelings completely. I usually rewatch the episode right after I see it online because it comes on an hour later where I am at. This one I didn't even bother turning my TV on for. Didn't tape it. Would rather pretend it didn't exist. What's with getting the brothers back on the same page just to undo it now. Could someone please create a damn character Bible for this show and at least post a summary of how they have written the brothers on the writers' room wall in the latest episode. I'm getting whiplash this season from everyone's "telling my own story with no freaking clue what happened in the previous one" approach to storytelling.

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  18. It was awful for me.. I am not comfortable with Bestiality and they turned it into a love triangle of sorts at the end with one familiar and two willing masters.. Just uggh!!!

    But what i hated most was that the Winchesters were sidelined..They were easily knocked down by the with and the guest stars were involved in the final action.. If i really wanted to watch to witches fighting i'd rather watch Harry Potter... I watch for the Winchesters and expect them to kick ass..

    Also the "brotherly interaction " scenes were not properly done..They turned Dean's worry about Sam and how the trails will effect him ( since Dean truly believes that one who does them will end up dead at the end ) into a trust issue... And then Sam accusing Dean for not trusting anyone else but himself.. But really just give him a reason to trust first.. Since the time he has returned from Purgatory Sam is talking about nothing else but The normal life and getting out ..except last week where he offered to show Dean the light too..

    The ending Impala chat scene did fit for me since Sam is demanding Deans trust but surely lying to the person you are expecting trust from doesn't work ...And didnt we already see this in S-4 ,6 and 7


    Thumbs down for me on this one!!!

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  19. I tweeted the same thing. It sounds like they are saying that Dean was actually in the room with Mary and saw her burning. Canon is not strong in Jeremy Carver.

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  20. So, I wonder if the dog they used for the familiar was also the dog they used as a template for a hellhound? I got flashbacks to last week's episode when she attacked the enemy witch at the end.


    Also, the episode wasn't anything more than decent, but the special effects looked nice to me with the bluish electric-look.

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  21. Yeah! I don't understand, because I thought Carver used to be good about it, but I guess that was all Kripke! Seriously, I don't understand. Dean has never said anything about seeing Mary. I know some fans have a theory he did, but the show has never really said it. I guess now he has. I really tired of Carver trying to reshape the show's history or at least not respecting it. Even Sera had her moments of respecting the show's earlier seasons, but I don't feel like Carver has any. But I thought the flashback lack total emotions, because they weren't Sam and Dean's memories. And wouldn't it have made more sense for Dean to see Sam jumping into the cage and remembering that and then say he trusts Sam? I mean if they have to turn it into trust issues instead of concern.

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  22. this was OK I guess and damn it dean needs to trust sam COME ON! are this is not going to work for me anymore. we do not know what is going wrong yet with sam a litte blood please thats all it was nothing to tell dean about and if he did tell dean I do not think dean will let him do the other 2 things he has to do ok.

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  23. Did these writers write for Charmed? They keep mixing up the mythology between SPN witches and Charmed. SPN witches cast spells, leave hex bags, and channel their powers from demons. They don't whip things around the room (like last year's ep), astral project, or have familiars. Next season their witches will be freezing people and orbing.

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  24. And they were doing so well. And since there's a Season 9 and probably 10 let's just yank Michael and Lucifer up, kick their asses; while we're at it give Naomi a heaven sized bladder infection. Pay Kevin Durand to put on his angel gear from Legion and wipe out these lame-ass angels, give Crowley magic headphones that recite words to a spell which will boot him to never-never land every time he says something snarky, and as Crowley disappears the boys wake up, John and Mary are alive as well as Bobby and Jess and anybody else that "got it" over the past ten years, leaving the boys with no recollection of what happened.


    And Garth gets his own shrimp boat.

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  25. SPOILER - Actually we do know. It's like tuberculosis and it makes Sam so sick it interferes with at least one hunting job. More importantly though, he just told Dean he was fine when he was coughing up blood which means that we are back to the lovely lying and keeping secrets that has never worked for the brothers....well ever. This idea Jeremy Carver has about "maturity" makes me wonder if he has ever heard the word used correctly.

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  26. Haven't seen it yet, but it's nice to know my initial squicks about the "beastiality" elements of the episode several months ago weren't unfounded.

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  27. Maybe its just me but I didn't feel that they went back to the first 10 eps. in their relationship. In the first half season they were just angry for ...pretty much just for being angry^^;. and now I felt its was more worry than not trusting. I wonder if Dean is not a little angry at himself for failling the trial, it was his suicide misison.

    But I feel the same way than you for the whole episode^^; I always watch each episode twice on wednesday, but I'm not going to watch it again tonight. Poor episode, airing after 3 great episodes in a row, even if it was a good one,everyone would've like it less, and since it was a little below good, it went way down for us^^;;

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  28. I don't know, but they already changed Castiel's two-finger touch healing to Leo's light healing in Hunter Heroic. So, someone must being watching old episodes of Charmed instead of Supernatural. I don't get it. Plus, Sam and Dean have astral projected before in "Death Takes a Holiday" written by Jeremy Carver!

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  29. I'm a bit shocked Carver didn't see this rehash in the light of the promised "maturity." But then, isn't Ross Leming the wife of Bob Singer? Maybe Carver didn't have the balls to scream "it sucks!!!" in his face.

    Part of me really wonders, is Singer just the day-to-day & money guy producer, as he pretends bts, or is his role more like "this will piss them all off" wank maker.

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  30. Thank you! It seemed like a Charmed episode to me, too.... only without the tongue in cheek "charm" ;) of all but the awful last season of Charmed.

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  31. Especially the Jumbo Shrimp. Wait.

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  32. It's obvious that the trials to close hell's gate are going to kill sam, it would be weir for supernatural to have a happy ending

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  33. I don't know about Singer's day-to-day job, but half the time, I don't know what show he is watching when he speaks in interviews! It doesn't seem to be the same one I'm seeing or reading about from other fans. He seems to be really disconnected from the show and the fans.

    I don't understand what is happening to Carver. At the beginning of the season, he looked like he had a direction with Castiel, Crowley, Kevin, Naomi, Benny, and Amelia like everything was going to tied together or had the promise of tying together, but all of that was dropped. Now, we have the trials and the Men of Letters, but nothing linking it together. What is the direction of the season? And they aren't doing the characters any favors with the conflict for the sake of conflict.

    With all the interviews that came out, Carver's been really quiet. He did a couple of those episodes introductions (which given that his clothes were the same in each, he probably did all of them on the same day or he's like a cartoon character), but other than that he's disappeared along with Benny, Amelia, and Castiel. Singer is the one doing the interviews, which only happened last season when Sera Gamble was "stepping down." Dan Lofin mentioning/praising Sera Gamble when he was discussing Garth as a writing team effort (for himself, Adam Glass, Sera Gamble, Andrew Dabb, and Robbie Thomason) and told people to send her love if she ever decides to use her twitter. Jeremy Carver got a quick thanks for letting him tell the story. :/ He calls Sera the "fearless showrunner" who saved Garth and Carver a "good man" who "okayed" the whole twitter story. Anyone else think that's strange?

    Then we have Adam Glass getting all the praise for the Men of Letters, but no one said anything about Carver. Jensen and Jared didn't seem too excited in their interviews that have been coming out, but that could be that they have their families are their minds. Are they having trouble with the showrunner again? He only wrote the first episode of the season and there has been no news of him writing another. (I assume he is writing the finale.) You think we would have heard something from Jeremy Carver when the show got renewed, but I didn't see anything. I wonder what is going on? Is he too busy with "Being Human" to do Supernatural stuff? Because once again, Supernatural seems to be lacking a good strong leader. And Singer stepped in last season in the second half, is this something that's common for a show to do? One showrunner does something in the first half and then another showrunner does something completely different in the second. Nothing is flowing from episode to episode or matching from the first half. I don't get it, but I do think they are having trouble with the writing politics behind the show once again. Something is really off.

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  34. Just finished watching this episode and so these are first impressions.
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    It was terrible!

    Bad acting all round, Jared and Jensen too, bad dialogue, completely predictable story-line, more woobie eyes at Dean by the male familiar, a little touch of bondage-sex, brothers being pretty wallpaper, the bestiality allusions. All completely cringe-worthy.

    The Sera Gamble season six dog episode was a mastepiece compared to this rubbish!
    X

    There isn't anything I liked about it, not even the brother scene at the end for it only foreshadowed another brother war, with Dean once again putting his trust in Sam and Sam not being truthful.
    Of course when Dean finds out, he'll be pissed at Sam for the umpteenth time!

    Been there done that, writers!!!
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    Why do the writers have to make Sam keep secrets again? Why can't he share with Dean that he's beginning to fell ill? Why has it got to be such a big secret? Why can't the boys work in harmony for once?
    I rated it awful probably because I'm so annoyed at the showrunner okaying such a poor episode!








    Ther episode lived up to its douchy title all right.

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  35. would Dean tell Sam if the shoe was on the other foot? Yeah right!

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  36. I think that the writers, like myself were not bigoted enough to see color or sexist enough to think it was nothing more than Witch/Familiar. Everyone somewhere has to have a complaint. I've been reading them for several days and I didn't see what the complainers were griping about. This season has the best in a long time. This episode and the early pick up for 9 proves it. This was fantastic.

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  37. I agree. If you are going to do the story, then see it through to the end. From what I heard and understand, it was implied that the figure was Don, but I heard that online and I think that's lame pull that only fans who keep up with spoilers and twitter have heard that. If they were going to start the season with having a character do something so out of character, then they NEEDED to explain it. I don't understand what they are doing with Sam this season, but I think that's the problem with the writers, they don't know what they are doing with Sam this season. I don't think the writers have done any favors for Sam or Dean, but Sam needed more explanation.

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  38. Thanks! I know that Carver is still involved with Being Human or at least last I heard he was. I think Singer is the one who is really in charge, as well, and has been for awhile. Jensen, Misha, and Jared have all talked about working with him, while they don't talk about working as hands on with Carver and Gamble and I used to think that was because he was a director and they saw him more. I guess if Carver leaves the show at the end of the season I won't be surprised. I just wish the person in charge of the show (whoever he (or she) is) wasn't so disconnected. I wish they could see how stale the constant conflict between the brothers is and stop with the tension and melodrama.

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  39. Jumbo, chilled, cocktail shrimp? That could be a Deanism. :)

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  40. I agree that when you get color blind you don't think about being racist and it never entered my mind. I read a lot of books that have Familiars for witches.

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  41. I didn't like it... This was next to Hearthache the poorest of the season...That artificial brunette chick. I liked her character... but she looked so umcomfortable all the episode... and the chats between the boys seemed so fake... just as the writers put them there to make fans happy... Yeah..I'm talking to all of you: botherly lovers....stay away from the writers. And stop to harass them to have what do you want...because this is the result!

    Sorry... I pissed off... but this is want I feel. And I don't care if someone feel I'm offending them. Even I don't think that the writers are idiots. But sometimes I've the feelings that the fans put too much pressure over them. Is just what I think.

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  42. Probably when he stops thinking he is protecting Dean because In this instance I can understand it , he doesnt want Dean to do the trials because of Dean's fatalistic pov and he wont show weakness a trait Dean also suffers from . As for running out that wasnt a issue in this episode or anytime recently and it isnt a view I hold anyway regarding Sam . I wouldnt mind these remarks about Sam if Dean wasnt just as bad but he is , he does lie to protect Sam and he has lied in the past because the boys believe they have to be strong for the other.

    And anybody who doesnt think Dean wouldnt do the same if he was in Sam's place right now are fooling themselves.

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  43. See I disagree, what do you call Sam not looking for Dean, but running away AGAIN.

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  44. With respect I know full well your view. And I will not get into a pointless argument with you he ran when Dean disappeared certainly he is human but I dont agree with the label given in the past. Not in Scarecrow or Hunted but I suppose it is about putting yourself in Sam's shoes in those instances and not seeing it has just being about Dean You have your view and you are welcome to it and I have mine the same view I have had since those episodes aired .
    You brought up running which in no way had anything to do with this episode and I didnt agree with that . And as I stated lying is something both brothers are guilty of .

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  45. Charlene Buchanan8 April 2014 at 05:10

    It was a good episode dont honestly understand why peole hated this but like LARP THE REAL GIRL it sucked lol

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  46. Back In Black Tricksteress 958 April 2014 at 05:12

    I voted Awesome.
    Portia was good and it was a funny scenario.
    I think Dean was a little more humorous in this episode, its also nice to hear what he had to say in the last couple of episodes,
    I can empathize why Sam lie. what can be done for him?. It will be somewhat awkward if Sam haveto tell him after the 'if your fine, I got your back' discussion with Dean, but I really don't think Dean will be angry (or that much).
    A theory is that I'm suspecting Sam won't even need to say anything because it might be too serious and he'll have a breakdown.
    I have the slightest suspicion that his side-effects could be something more than the human point of view. What if its in his blood?, his demonic trait might but stirred up because it was dormant for a while. What if closing the gates of hells require something inhuman of him?. Unless Cas comes back 100% or some-one unexpected I'm leaning onto that idea.
    I also really believe that Sam will pull through, when he said he might make it gave me an impression.

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  47. See I don't disagree that Dean would try and keep his pain from Sam to stop him from worrying about him and I want to see it like Sam is doing it because he doesn't want Dean to see him weak, I want to see it that he doesn't want Dean to worry, I want to see it that Sam honestly does believe he is okay and is in denial or he needs time to get his head round what is happening to him. I would like to see it like that but that isn't my knee jerk reaction because the writers throughout this season have rammed the trust issues down our throats without truly doing something with it.


    To have Sam harp on about trust then when Dean does agree with him about how he needs to open up trust wise to then lie to him, no matter what the reason just makes my heart sink because I don't want it to turn out that someone else turns round to Dean to tell him to suck it up when he finds out while Sam coughs on a hankie like a consumptive out of a Victorian melodrama.

    If they are going the trust route, when Dean finds out I want him to be pissed and not just eat it because he is told or has Sam going on about Dean not trusting him. If they are going this route I want Sam to really truly deal with his side of the trust thing and not running away from it either literally or metaphorically (by turning it on Dean's trust issues) so he can truly be a 30 year old I can respect and not regress him to a man/boy on a tantrum which I felt is where they went with his reaction to Benny who is now getting his redemption by a grand gesture. I want Sam to be able to do the little things and make me feel better about him, just like Dean gets away with.

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