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Poll: Favorite Scene from Supernatural - 8.14 - Trial and Error

Feb 15, 2013

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23 comments:

  1. Time to choose between the speeches. Have fun.

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  2. Sam's speech for sure. Not to belittle Dean's, because it was heartbreaking and honest, but Dean wanting to protect his little brother is kind of a given. We've seen it time and time again, and he doesn't waver. But Sam taking a stand and demonstrating just how much he wants to protect his big brother as well? I absolutely loved every part of it. Plus, it was nice to see that Sam views a "light at the end of the tunnel" of this angst.


    I also loved Dean's nesting, though. Priceless.

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  3. Had to choose between deans speech and or dean nesting. Went with nesting and then deans speech.something about SAMs speech to me throws me off.

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  4. The nesting was sad. I always feel so bad for the boys when they do Christmas stuff or they'd just drink a beer with Bobby, when they have these short flashes of a really sad normal life.

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  5. Am I the only one who was reminded of how Benny got out of Purgatory by using Dean when they saw Sam's arm glowing? Maybe something is coming into this world by using the person who completes the trials? Maybe the Devil? Another Purgatory Dweller? Or maybe even God so that he can shut the gates of Hell himself?

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  6. Dean's nesting,his speech,Sam killing the hound and his speech and the arm glowing after the spell <3 Oh btw did anyone else get freaked out when Ellie look at Dean and he had that zombie/demon face??First time on SPN that I actually scream out of terror/surprise O_O

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  7. O_____O WOW.That is hell of a theory!!!Man that would be pretty cool.

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  8. It's the speeches followed by Dean's nesting and room. Sam's speech was the kindest thing he's ever done for Dean. It showed he really cared and he knew his brother. Dean is a genius...he's never been encouraged. In LARP when he showed Charlie how to set her army, etc, it was fantastic. Sam has never really spoken like this to him before...but, then Dean never opened up before either. I love this new side to them.

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  9. I voted for Sam's speech. Loved them both, but in the end, while Dean can only think of sacrificing himself to save his brother, Sam is trying to save them both. These boys need that light at the end of the tunnel hope. Sam had it briefly...and now he wants to get it back and take his brother with him. So, if Dean can keep Sam alive....Sam can save Dean in the process. Love it!

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  10. First, Dean's speech and his nesting were the best. Tough call but I went with the speech because it was so heartfelt. I know I'm in the minority here but Sam's speech was a bunch of bull to me. FIrst off, Dean doesn't have any friends because the writers have made Cas unreliable or trustworthy and Sam made Dean write off Benny to be with him. So all Dean has is Sam as usual. Two, how is Sam going to show Dean the light at the end of the tunnel when Dean's always been a hunter and knows he's not suited to a normal life. Not while people are being killed by the supernatural. So what? Dean's going to be the 3rd wheel to Sam's normal life? Yeah, that's fun. Props to Sam for at least saying Dean was smart even thought Sam always believes he's smarter and knows better of course, Sam is one of the people that imply that Dean's not that smart, probably as a sibling rivalry thing but still, Dean's heard it enought to really believe it.
    Honestly, though, the writers have made Dean's 'grunt' speech more realistic because once again, for what is probably the fourth time in the entire series, they have made Dean nothing more than Sam's glorified babysitter/bodyguard who has to stand back and watch as once again, Sam is the "chosen" one for yet another quest which will probably kill him. And, once again, Dean will be worrying himself over Sam, yadda, yadda, yadda, while Sam hides things, like his arm glowing, yadda, yadda, yadda.
    Where is the growth that these two were supposed to go through? the maturity? the new outlook from their seperate experiences over the past year? Because this really feels like the same swan song, whatever verse.

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  11. I liked the nesting scene and next would be Sam's speech to Dean, then Dean's to Sam.
    Edit to add another thought: Soap box time again, I loved Sam's speech, but when I think about it I wonder where was this caring for Dean when he was gone for a year? I am not worried about Sam doing the trials after all Sam was going to take on Lucifer and could not do it without Dean's help. Together they are STRONGER.

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  12. Shhh, let's not talk about the biggest mistake they ever made on this show, a.k.a "Sam's year".

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  13. Okay I have made up my mind, only took about two hours. Dean's speech, because it's more realistic. Followed by Sam's speech and Dean nesting.

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  14. And don't forget, Sam's speech was the complete opposite of his actions so far this season. He believes in Dean? Then why did he believe Crazy Martin over Dean about Benny? Dean was right, and Sam let Martin knock him out then left him handcuffed to the radiator so he could go kill the vampire who wasn't hurting anyone. But hey, let's just conveniently forget stuff like that. At some point, the writers have to write Sam with some kind of consistency. Until then, I don't know which Sam I'm watching and I can't root for him because I don't know him. Dean's speech was very realistic. He's not suicidal (that was Sam's words) but he's a hunter, he will always be a hunter, and hunters usually wind up dead with their guns in their hands. Sam can walk away, which is the only way there is a light at the end of the tunnel, Dean could too, but he won't. There will always be monsters to kill whether they eliminate demons or not. That's what he does. He will never turn his back on that and just be a mechanic is bumfuk Iowa and grow old. So Sam's speech was pretty, but it was what Sam wants, not Dean. He can't 'make' Dean see something that is never going to be there for him. Dean knows that. But he's smart enough to know he's not going to convince Sam of anything when he's on his soapbox so why try? Just like people have been saying Dean has to stop trying to make Sam hunt if he doesn't to, the opposite is just as true. Sam can't make Dean stop hunting because Dan doesn't want to.

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  15. I just finished S4..and started 5 again and I got to thinking, if I was Dean I would have a hard time trusting Sam, after all he has picked Ruby over Dean and now a "girl". And he has run from family over and over in the early season, got to see that in Dark Side of the Moon and it was OH, I did not think of it like that. All of Sam's happy memories were away from Dean. But the worse thing he has ever done is NOT LOOK FOR DEAN this time and I so want there to be some reason for that. I like Sam and don't want this season to ruin that for me.

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  16. The Cave of Dropped Plot Points (CoDPP) has had to work hard to accommodate all the influx from season 8. I am pleased to announce that we have finished the new condos and have bought out part of Purgatory to house new tenants. The dwarves, brownies, and other creatures of the fairy realm have been complaining about all the overtime work in extending the cave's boundaries so I regret to inform you that all the classic rock music budget and a good portion of Netflix sales have gone to their overtime pay. The staff of CoDPP is asking for a meeting with Jeremy Carver and SPN producers to encourage them to not move so many new residents in during season 9. Dropped Plot Points will have to room 10 to an apartment if they continue to have such high migration. On the plus side, we now have enough residents to get an extra 2 congressmen to represent our needs.

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  17. Hey,I'd love to get a guided tour of these new season eight condos added the CoDPP World and a little peek at the Purgatory block, although I do feel sorry for the residents having to bunk up 10 to an apartment.

    I agree that Carver has to appoint a greater budget to help out the over-worked staff! We could maybe start a petition :)

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  18. Exactly, there seems to be two Sam, and what the hell have
    Dean with old and boring idea of being suicidal. Honestly the speeches were
    beautiful, but for me they were totally without meaning, nothing, didn't feel
    any emotion. I'm thinking .... I watch supernatural too many and the scenes are getting so equal that feel nothing for them. True?! :( Miss scenes like Jo and Ellen's death or The end of season 5, or The end of the season 3, the two episodes of the second season. :'(( Snif!!

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  19. While I appreciate the correction that has been made in the brothers' relationship by the writers from the Charlie episode onwards, I'm still finding it very hard to connect to this season.


    There's just too much of a contradiction between the first ten episodes and this new direction.
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    It's too easy to say that one should just ignore those previous episodes and concentrate on this new Men of Letters thing, but what the writers did in the first half of the season affects the credibility of what we are getting now.
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    All this caring between Sam and Dean seems completely false if we recall the first episodes.

    If Carver wanted to give us the contrived brother war then he shoukd have given it a believable conclusion which it hasn't had.

    Both brothers were completely OOC in those episodes; they had the appearance of Sam and Dean but they weren't and I'm still waiting for the missing link that connects those brothers to the ones we got in this episode.
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    Then I'm still wondering who the man outside Amelia's house was. I still want to know why Sam's world imploded. Why he didn't look. What he did between Dean's disappearance and hitting the dog.

    How did Benny know about the door out of Purgatory? Who told him or was he just so intelligent that he figured everything out himself?

    Why was the relationship between Sam and Amelia protrayed so unconvincingly? Was it done on purpose to make it so unsympathetic or was it just the actors that had no chemistry?

    What was the time scale? . How long did she and Sam live together. Why didn't we get a peek of them as a young couple looking for their first home?

    If Carver was going for the 'Soapernatural' angle, he certainly wasn't very good at showing it.

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    Anyway to cut along story short, this season is filled with the most inconsistencies, continuity slips and OOC charactarization than any past seasons and it is just so annoying to watch them.


    I wish Carver would tie off some of the loose ends, for as I said above the contented pleasure I might find in the boys re-found brotherly moments is very hard to assimilate after the unexplained, falsely contrived brother-tension and quasi-hate between them in first half of the season.

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  20. I'm a very sick puppy. I think it'll end bloody, like Kripke & Dean. A happy light at the end of the tunnel is a great thought, but somehow off for these two. So Dean's speech moved me more, as being a likely omen.

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