This is the last part of round 1 so the final nominees are in the polls today. Winners of these polls will join Renegade, Man in the Wilderness, All Out of Love, Silent Lucidity, Bad Moon Rising, Don't Look Back, Spirit in the Sky, Knockin' on Heaven's Door, Back in Black, Crossroad Blues, Born to be Wild, Smoke on the Water, Heat of the Moment, These Boots were Made for Walking, Don't Fear the Reaper, Wanted Dead or Alive, the Knight Rider theme, Walking on Sunshine, What a Wonderful World, O Death (96%), Space Oddity (58%), You Shook Me All Night Long (53%), and Simple Man (70%) in round 2. While round 2 ought to be difficult, I project that round 3 will be almost impossible given how many true song-to-scene choices there are.
Today's polls include 6 that I don't know how they got into the contest at all with better choices eliminated in the nomination stage so for me this is the weakest part of the bracket. However, it does include some fan favorite moments and I expect those to win big time. Maybe even make it to the final 8. Below are links to the scene videos and contest basics, which will contain a contest update as soon as these polls close. It also includes the rankings of all nominees.
I'm also including a form for you to give your suggestions for future polls. I keep a running list to do during hiatus. Usually we just run polls during the winter and summer hiatuses. However I had requests for us to do something if we have the typical spring in-season hiatus where reruns run back to back for several weeks in March and April. I'm not sure if we are going to get another big break, but if we do we'll run something Supernatural during that time. Currently, I'm thinking it will be the episode ranking articles or continuing with the writer polls. The big summer hellatus contest will be Best Quote. With 172 episodes, that is going to be one big comprehensive endeavor so it will take up most of the hellatus. However I am flexible so if people have other ideas that we have not already done on SpoilerTV, let me know in the form below. Fair warning though, anything that seems likely to instigate brother wars is automatically tossed so no Hottest Brother or Favorite Character stuff please.
Happy voting!
Contest Basics
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Scene Videos: (Remember this is NOT favorite scene but which song matches the scene best)
Eye of the Tiger
We Gotta Get Out of this Place - starts at 1:20
The Gambler
You ain't Seen Nothing Yet
Bad Company
Wake Up Little Susie
A Well-Respected Man
Burnin' for You - starts at 7:45
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1. Neither - In my opinion, Eye of the Tiger should never have gotten in here in the first place, especially in the early nominations. People admitted they nominated it because of the outtake but an outtake is not a scene and therefore it cannot be used as song-to-scene. As for the actual scene it was used in, you could play anything from Def Leppard or any good drum solo to create the same effect. I would love to be able to vote against this one but it is going against We've Got to Get Out of This Place which is just as bad. This could have been a great song in the episode….if it had been played in a Purgatory scene. Instead it is used when Dean is just driving down the road. The only way this can be considered a good song-to-scene is if the music department also realized that season 8's plot line has been subpar and they want to get back to the quest too. Oh if that were only the reason they used this song. Then I would vote for it in a heartbeat. Instead Eye of the Tiger will walk to certain victory and may even make it to the final 8. That my friends will be a total travesty for a song-to-scene contest.
ReplyDelete2. The Gambler - I would say neither for this one too but I can't seem to skip 2 polls in one day. Besides both of these are better than the choices above. The Gambler gets my vote because the lyrics fit well with Bobby. If it were song-to-character, it would get my vote throughout the contest. However, as song-to-scene the scene is a bit lackluster, as Meg would say. A general montage but good insight into the character so I guess using a character song works.
You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet - Sam did say he wanted to gouge his eyes out after seeing Dean having sex and he said it was a part of Dean he never wanted to see so it is implied that Sam "ain't seen nothing" before. Still that's not enough to make it a good song-to-scene for me.
3. Bad Company - This was a perfect match because we get the chorus of "bad company until I die" as Meg first reveals to us that she's not a lonely college-aged traveler but really a force of evil hunting the Winchesters. Meg's blood bowl communication was shocking and to hear Bad Company playing to accompany it made the scene for me. The scene itself drew extra power from the lyrics.
Wake Up Little Susie - Well Sam did wake up but that's about all I can say for this one fitting the scene. Far better choices to be had.
4. A Well-Respected Man - I love this song-to-scene choice and will have a hard time in round 2 if it goes up against Bad Company. To be totally honest, this new Dean would have thrown me even without the song, but for them to include it really power punched the weirdness. A well-respected, climbing the business ladder quickly Dean talking about Project Runway and the Master Cleanse needed this song.
Burnin' for You - I think this would be a decent nomination for a song-to-series choice, but as a song-to-scene it is particularly poor, especially since it could have been so awesome in many other places in season 1. I understand that it takes place in an episode that might as well have been dedicated to BOC, but they didn't put Don't Fear the Reaper in this episode and it worked so much better. BOC had a lot of songs. This one should have been pulled for another episode. Instead they waste it by basically making it the song Dean and Sam drive off to. I demand a do-over for this song.
1) My first non-vote. - best song...okay maybe, but song to scene...I can't come up with
ReplyDelete....any kind of logic to justify a vote.
2) Extremely easy one The Gambler It's create scene-to-characther and
....awesome scene-to-montage.
3) I think I'm gonna pick Wake Up Little Susie I'm guessing Bad Company is
....going to win, but while the song connects to the scene...who exactly *is* the bad
....company. Did our innocent little new friend of Sam's get a ride with a
....predator? Nope other way around. Wake up Little Susie...just somehow
....worked better for me and it's odd cause I didn't have that visceral reaction
....that I usually go with..difficult choice, tho.
4) Another easy one A Well-Respected Man it is a prefect music selection
....that underlines the diferences between this Dean and Dean. :-)
Does my six degrees of separation logic help you at all....(regarding The Gambler) Since the only way you *should* in film reveal character is in a scene then couldn't we say that a song that reveals character in a scene that reveals character equals a song to scene match? :-) I had to try.
ReplyDelete1. We Gotta Get Out Of This Place - neither song, really, but I just went with the better of the two
ReplyDelete2. The Gambler - It's more of a theme song, but better than the other option
3. Bad Company
4. A Well-Respected Man
Um....huh? Now I'm really confused. :-P This is my logic. The scene is all about us getting to know Bobby better. The song helps us do that by being a good fit to the character so the song helps the scene even though the scene itself is weak. Is that what you are trying to say? Still in comparison to many of the choices still in this contest, it is lightweight as a song-to-scene for me. However, it's light years better than the two in the first poll so if it makes it to round 2, it gets my vote again.
ReplyDeleteWelcome to non-voting. I'm looking forward to a time when I can comfortably vote in all polls. I'm not sure if that has happened in this contest yet.
ReplyDeleteI think your reasons for voting against Bad Company are my reasons to vote for it. I find that funny and fun. It bodes well for good conversation in the subsequent rounds.
I did a lot of "better than the other option" voting in this contest so far too. Looking forward to round 3 where hopefully every choice will be a good song-to-scene fit and we can really go deep into why one is better than the other.
ReplyDelete1. Eye of the Tiger because even as an excuse for a Dean drum solo made more sense to me than the gotta get out of this place with a reunion after they've gotten out of the place.
ReplyDelete2. The Gambler--I'm not taking it too literally to the scene action in question but rather as the scene is a Bobby development montage paired with THE Bobby song. Basically, I'd vote for this to play anytime Bobby came onscreen...like Darth Vader. God, I miss Bobby so much.
3. Bad Company--Because that girl is not someone you want to be inviting to your next party. And even with the musical warning was not enough to minimize the shock of blond Meg slitting that dude's throat.
4. Well-Respected Man!!!!!! (okay, I'm a little nutso for this one). It was totally perfect. The lyrics, the strange Dean, the absurd peppiness of a workaday life, its American Psycho overtones that made it all that more unsettling. My favorite. Like ever.
With the exception that I didn't think the scene was weak..that's what I was trying to say.
ReplyDeleteI can, however, wholeheartedly agree that further on this song will drop off my list as soon as the going gets tough. there are so many above it on my personal list.
I wouldn't have expected to see your choice of photo today, as I know you don't like the episode ASS. Oh dear, didn't realise the ep.initials made up that word.:)
ReplyDeleteAs I said, I loved the episode as I do all back story ones but I am sorry that we couldn't have had a better young Dean. I definitely think the choice of the actor and the writing for him were way off. I'm not criticizing the actor in any way, just he didn't come over as young Dean..
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SONG/SCENES
Don't really see the song to scene dynamics in the first two. Any other song could have been put in those scenes so I'm going to vote for the one which is losing.
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Here I too don't quite get the combinations of song/scene. The Gambler is a great song but I don't really see Bobby as one except when he wanted his legs back and played poker, losing with Patrick.
As for "You Ain't Seen nothing Yet", with an older brother like Dean and a life of hunting monsters, there can't have been many things that Sam hadn't seen, so I can only think that it refers to the fact that he hadn't seen Dean with twins before although he seemed perfectly all right with it while sitting in the Impala to leave the room free for his brorher. LOL.:)
So again I'm going for the loser.
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Bad Company..
No doubts here. Having Meg in the van with you, at least THAT Meg, was no picnic and the song fits perfectly
Lucifer is being his usual sarcastic self in the other scene and in that sense the song fits, but no match for Meg!
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A Well Respected Man.
This song/scene stars off one of my very favourite episodes, It's way up in my top ten. I love it and the song matches the scene perfectly. As soon as I saw Dean shrugging on the jacket and into the car while the song played, I knew it was going to be an alternate universe ep and so it was.
I loved every single thing about it and I'm sorry it doesn't seem to get the merit it deserves. Terrific stuff!
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As for the polls.
Has a best brotherly synchronised moment been done?
When they sit together, answer together, close doors together. even with soulless Sam they were in synch as they both got out of the two different cars at the same time, etc.
I don't know if there are enough moments to merit a poll but it could be quite cute.
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Best aliases. FBI, priests, repair men, fire fighters, gym-teacher, janitor, etc.
I remember a lot of scenes where Sam and Dean said the same thing at once or did the same thing. I agree that would be a fun poll if done.
ReplyDeleteMe too.
ReplyDeleteYeah, definitely. :) Those moments are so cute!
ReplyDeleteSince you don't want a vote for the scene after the credits, no vote for me in the first poll, but I still think if a scene was played on TV for that ep it should count.
ReplyDeleteThe Gambler is all about Bobby
Bad Company
A Well Respected Man.just fit so well, the only thing about this ep that is a big minus was the Ghostfacers, and they kept it from being in my top ep list. Any ep that has parts I have to FF thru just can not make the list.
How about starting the favorite or least favorite ep poll out easy with just the top or bottom 20 or 30. That should end up being eye opening. [ ;-)
I too was shocked when Meg slit the guy's throat. I expected that she wasn't what she appeared to be but that was a vicious eyeopener.
ReplyDeleteI'm pretty much a rule follower so when I set up guidelines for polls I feel I have to follow them whether I like the results or not. Once I decided I was tired of always using the season 8 title card, I used the guidelines for the ultimate episode contest, minus the one where both brothers had to be in it. So the picture goes to whichever song-to-scene loses with the highest percentage of votes. In this case it was After School Special. By the way, my rule following is what also keeps me from changing the brackets, even if I know it will lead to heartbreaking choices or bad sections of the bracket. This way I can always explain myself when people have questions about why things are the way they are.
ReplyDeleteAs for the tandem brother moments poll, that's a great idea. I love those moments and one of the reasons why I love It's a Terrible Life is because after a season of brother breaks, these two "strangers" have those tandem moments that remind us that they are indeed still brothers, demon blood addiction or not.
The best alias poll idea has come up a lot so we will definitely do that sometime. The biggest question will be is it by alias or by episode. For instance they are FBI in a whole bunch of episodes so do we look at it as FBI as a whole or a specific episode's FBI. Any thoughts?
The outtake cannot be a scene because a scene by definition is tied to the action of the story, a set of sequential events that make up the plot. The outtake was not part of the action of Yellow Fever. It was an added bonus put at the end, I suspect because they didn't have enough story to round out the entire 42 minutes.
ReplyDeleteI'm not looking at the rankings to be polls but instead articles in which everyone shares their opinion, agreeing and disagreeing as we go through. It will look a little different but I hope it will have a great level of conversation tied to it.
Okaay! I thought it was a random picture but I see you have it all planned out! :)
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Hmm. I think I see the problem. It depends how you look at it as there are potentially two polls here.
Would you consider the FBI alias as one costume, like a janitor or priest, or would you put the names of the FBI couples in the various episodes up against one another?
You're the expert but I think if there are enough costumes to hold a poll I would consider the FBI men as one single dressing up alias.
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If on the other hand you are only going to consider the FBI aliases,ie, the pair of names that the brothers take while impersonating them in order to see which alias is the quirkiest, then I think you would have to keep a link to the various episodes in which those aliases were used, more as a reference for voters, as I don't think the actual episode in itself matters very much in this case.
These were also my votes, except that I didn't vote in the 3rd poll, because I dislike the scene. I agree it's a good song-to-scene option, but I dislike both, the scene and the song, so I can't bring myself to vote for it.
ReplyDeleteI also wanted to comment that Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas hasn't been listed above as having made it to Round 2. I'm sure Dahne will be counting with it in the corresponding Bracket, but I just don't want it to go unmentioned in the winners' list.
I think the FBI would have to be a separate poll using the names and for me none of the other costumes are going to beat these rocker aliases. The problem is going to be the boys very seldom give their real names and Dean uses rockers names all the time. This would be very hard for me.
ReplyDeleteWhile the rocker aliases are cool, as FBI men however they essentially always wear the same suit and tie, while there are lots of other costumes I like them in.
ReplyDeleteI love Sam in his white nurse's uniform when he interviews patients, and what about Dean in his cowboy get up. :)
However, you're right in saying it wouldn't be an easy poll to set up.
Argh, I did forget Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas, and it's one of my favorites. Rest assured it is most definitely in round two. As for this poll, it is different. I have found myself voting for a choice in which I did not like the song and the scene but there was no doubt it was the best song-to-scene. It's the first time we've tried to do a poll that is more based on logic instead of merely picking our favorites. It's been a big adjustment in my thinking but I have been more interested in it for this reason.
ReplyDeleteI agree that they sound like two different polls. Maybe Best Costume and Best Alias. Best Costume would be pretty easy to do. Best Alias would take a little more doing because there are so many of them.
ReplyDeleteHi Dahne, I understand your position about these polls and I'm really grateful about them, because it's a really interesting contest. The only little disagreement here is that for me the contest is not only about a song that matches well to the scene, but then I also have to like the result. I mean, if there is a song that matches very well the scene, but I don't enjoy the result, and it even comes up to be one of the scenes that I really hate in SPN (the ones I put my hands over my eyes to or I fast forward when I rewatch the episode), sometimes precisely because of the song, then I can't vote for it. For instance: the Bad Company scene in 1.11, O Death scene in 5.21, Rock of Ages scene in 5.22 and Good Morning scene in 7.17. Those songs are jarring for me in those scenes in a bad way, it's probably because I'm not used to that kind of music at all, but I still dislike them. It's really interesting for me to read everybody's comments so I can see the point of them being there, and so I can understand better the effect intended, but I really want this contest to be won by one of the many songs-to-scene combinations that I really enjoy (and the Merry Christmas one is one of my favorites). That's why I won't vote for a scene I don't like. So I understand that you want to address here the logic over the enjoyment, but I believe at the end after the reasoning the song-to-scene that you vote for needs to be one that you really see as an enjoyable or at least interesting combination.
ReplyDeleteBy the way, I think you left out of the list four more contendants, because I count only 24 (plus the four winning here they add up to 28), but all the rest of my favorites are in there and I'm sure the brackets will be alright, because you always keep good track of everything. It's no big deal, probably no one else has noticed. Thanks again for your efforts.
I think more people feel like you than like me so you are in good company. Also once we get to the point where there are only great song-to-scene candidates left, it will definitely come down more to personal preference and style for most people. It will also be harder to justify why we pick the ones we do which should make for good conversation.
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