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Once Upon a Time - Episode 2.09 - Queen of Hearts - Sneak Peek

Nov 28, 2012

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73 comments:

  1. Holy F**** That gave me gosebumps! I can't wait!!!

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  2. Poor Ruby.
    I need this episode to appear in my life.

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  3. Just... ALL the feelings.

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  4. Sooo good.


    I am more curious than ever about how they are going to handle this. Even if hopefully Henry convinces Regina Rumpel is still there...

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  5. Until now I didn't know a sneak peek could make me cry. Can we have the episode now?

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  6. Such a beautiful scene, loved it

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  7. OMG Henry is just so awesome, I really can't wait for the episode now ^^ So looking forward to it

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  8. Poor Henry!!

    I'm just so mad at Regina. She was really trying and now she just wants to throw that away?!

    I hope she'll come around! And then, there's Gold... Don't even make me start! Attacking Ruby? Basically trying to kill Emma&Snow? Yeah, hell of a progress here!

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  9. I hate Regina being a good girl.

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  10. Holy cow. How Lana Parrilla has not won a major award yet is beyond me. The woman is insanely talented. Her voice work when she told Henry about how Cora destroys everything she loves? And her eyes when Henry asks her to have faith in him? Nothing short of bloody brilliant. Gave me goosebumps. Can it be Sunday yet?

    Writing looks good too. I understand why Regina would do anything to keep Cora away from Henry after what she put Regina through and what she did to poor Daniel. But I can relate to Henry and his faith in Emma and Snow too. Best part? They're communicating. You can tell they've made progress in their relationship and they now understand each other better than before. Good stuff.

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  11. Definitely "mum" or "mama" or something like that.

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  12. I'm wondering if they're specifically trying to make the Charmings so selfish on purpose. Last week it was Emma and Snow ready to murder people so they could get back to Storybrooke, now Henry is (understandable since he's a kid and pretty spoiled) prioritizing Emma and Snow over the lives of everyone else.

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  13. She doesn't want to throw it away. She is afraid of her mother coming to Storybrooke where she would hurt Henry to hurt Regina. Knowing Cora, what she's done in the past and what she said about wanting to "meet" her grandson this season, I'd say it's a legitimate fear. If Henry (through something he's learned in a dream or in other ways) knows more than Regina and Gold about who is coming through the portal, he is of course doing the right thing in asking her to stop it though. And to me it looks like he's gotten through to Regina.

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  14. Especially since her 'seeing' Regina sounds like it's going to involve a lot of pain and punishment.

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  15. Thanks! Mama is actually slightly ironical considering that's how Regina herself called Cora back in the day. But that's just me over analyzing the whole thing.

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  16. Agreed!! Cora is going to cause nothing but grief,pain and heartache ( really,no pun intended). Only Regina knows just how horrible her mother can be,Regina has a right to be terrified for Henry..


    I feel bad for Henry,his faith had been unshakeable for all these years knowing about Storybrooke,who his mother really was,and he has been right.But now,one day whether today or tomorrow its not going to turn out good,i hope he is older when that happens,it could shatter him otherwise...

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  17. This may just be the best scene we've seen all season! Finally some real climatic drama, not the usual fizz and fluff!



    Lana Parilla is gonna knock our socks off in the winter finale, I just know it!

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  18. I understand that Regina want to protect Henry. Yeah she loves him. But if Emma and Mary Margaret died Henry will hate Regina forever. She never win his love,,, And Emma gave Henry up for adoption because Emma was the victim of Regina revenge against Snow, Remember? We need to think about the Emma past...Emma suffered her whole life without parents...because of Regina curse.
    If Regina had not released that curse, Emma never would have needed to have Henry sent for adoption. She had hers parents for support

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  19. And she listened, Cora got threw, and everyone dies!!

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  20. Actually, if Regina had never enacted the curse, there would be no Henry.

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  21. Agree!

    What Regina, made ​​for Charming and Snow, with the curse. Separated from the daughter, made ​​them live as adulterers and have sex with other people.

    Emma would have had a completely different life and possibly Henry would not exist-

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  22. And if Rumple hadn't decided to create a curse and create a monster Regina never would have cast the curse. And if 14 year olds weren't forced into battle Rumple would have never become the dark one and Bae never would have fallen into the portal into our world. Etc, etc. So at what point do Emma and Snow become responsible for their own actions and choices without needing to blame them on Regina. It's pretty much what Snow was saying the last episode, that blaming people doesn't help anyone, it only creates more problems.

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  23. Seriously Henry is the only character that has his act together, without him I would hate to imagine what would happen to the rest.

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  24. The plot probably wouldn't exist since he and Charming are the only plot devices working right now.

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  25. But that's basically the blame game circle thing Snow talked about in Sunday's episode. If Snow had kept Regina's secret, Regina and Daniel could have had the chance to get married and have the family they dreamt of. Regina would not have been vunerable to Rumple's attempts to corrupt her. If Cora had not made a deal with Rumple, he wouldn't have been able to turn her into the "monster" that abused Regina, manipulated young Snow, and killed Daniel. If wishes were horses, beggars would ride. Like Snow said, there's more than enough blame to go around in circles and it doesn't lead anywhere.

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  26. Snow was a child, when given rise to angry circle of adults....

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  27. Eh, yes, that was kind of my point. Like I said: Cora "manipulated young Snow". But the blame game doesn't end there because Cora wasn't born evil. She made deals with Rumple. Rumple turned into the Dark One who corrupted others because he was afraid to lose his son. If you want to, you can keep going like this forever.

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  28. We are the choices we make

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  29. Exactly. ANd Snow made the choice to send Emma away and Emma made the choice to give up Henry, etc etc.

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  30. Watch Regina let them come through and it end up being Cora and Hook impersonating Emma and Snow. lol

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  31. I agree with Regina and Rumple that keeping Cora away is more important than letting Emma and Snow through.

    Cora killed Daniel because "Love is weakness." Imagine what she would do to Henry.

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  32. No, Snow was only all too ready to do almost exactly that to Mulan because she wants to get back to her husband. This show keeps talking about grey areas and yet I see people insisting on this stark contrast betwee good and evil - when in fact both sides have good and bad about them.

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  33. You took the words right out of my mouth. ALL THE FEELINGS!!!
    Fasten your seatbelts, Evil Regals, because we're in for an emotional roller coaster again.

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  34. Why insist on the "good"/"evil" dichotomy? She's a little bit of both, plus much more. Most characters are both, unless they're one-dimensional caricatures which help fill a void in the plot and haven't yet been fully developed.

    I don't get why most people feel the need to label things/people; that's too limiting for me.

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  35. Yes, you can choose to be Evil or you can choose to be Good, or Killer or not Killer...You can choose to learn black magic or refuse any kind of witchcraft

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  36. If Snow didnt made that choice probably, Regina, had ordered killing Emma before she grow...Regina chose the path of evil

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  37. Henry still doesn't know about Daniel? Coz Daniel and Regina are the prime example that good does not always win. That's what your Mom knows better than anyone, kiddo. True Love & faith & pureness of the heart are not always enough.

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  38. If ...I say IF.. If Neal is Bae (we do not know yet), but if he is, when he discovers that Henry is his son. Regina will also have problems with him, because if Neal is Bae, he will not want magic or black magic around his child too....If Neal is Bae, will be tricky for everyone. Even for Emma, who lied to Henry about his father. I know it was with good intentions, but lie also has a price...

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  39. The scenes with Regina Henry and Gold have been really good I want more of them!!!.

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  40. I can't help myself but sometimes the Pro-Regina-Voices sounds like victim blaming. You can't say that Snow and Emma aren't victims of Regina because she try to kill both several times. Of course It was Snows choice to send Emma away to protect her and it was Emmas choice to pass on Henry to give him a better live but all the things Regina did to them before and after are very good reasons to be mad at her. In my opinion it's not a question of not-blaming but a question of forgiviness.

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  41. Some people just miss the point of this show and it's sad. it has been said time and time again by the actors, writers, creators, God himself JK that there is no Black and White areas in this show but people insist again and again that some of these characters are Good or Evil. It's actually really tiring to be honest. That's like saying that people in real life are the same way. Which is absolutely not true. As for Regina I am loving her development this season. And her scenes with Henry are a joy to watch. Particularly this one.

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  42. I don't see it as throwing anything away. She is terrified of her mother. She is trying to protect the one person she cares more than anyone about, her son. She knows better than anyone what her mother is like and Cora arriving in SB is not going to be good for anyone. I would imagine now that Cora knows about Henry he will be her first target. I do think she is going to change her mind if the promo is anything to go. I do agree about Gold though. What he did to Ruby was completely uncalled for.

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  43. Sure, but in a lot of ways Regina is a victim as well. That's the point: they all made choices. Snow's choice led to someone being killed and contributed to Regina's descent into darkness. Is it right or reasonable to blame Snow for it? No. But neither is it right or reasonable to blame Regina for a series of their own choices as well.

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  44. I think the point of the show is that things are not as simple as that. For example, you say you can choose to be a killer or not be a killer. Yet several of the good guys are killers. You can choose to learn magic or refuse, yet magic has also been shown to be a part of people, sometimes even a part of people that they cannot escape, like in the case of Ruby. It's all shades of grey.

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  45. Regina killed a lot of people. She ripped off so many hearts that she no longer knows which heart belongs to who. That's a dimension of malignance I can't excuse so simple as you and some fans do. It's fascinating and a little bit scary that a good actress make an evil character so charming (little pun) that many people are willing to overindulge very horrible things this character did. I mean very, very horrible things. Snow lost her mother, her father and many other people she loved but did she become evil? No. Red ate her great love inadvertent and had to kill her mother to protect a friend but did she become evil? No. Charmings mother was killed but did he become evil? No. No. No. You can forgive Regina (and this is not easy for her victims) but you can't absolve her. That's my opinion.

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  46. For God's sake! Regina killed many innocent people. Fans seem to forget about it!

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  47. I'm not sure I understand what you mean. I hope it's not a matter of fans who are able to sympathize with "evil" (I'd argue it's not black and white) characters on some levels are automatically labeled as apologists again. Understanding where someone comes from and how their live experiences shaped their development does not mean you condone everything they've done. I don't see anyone absolving Rumple or Regina here either.

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  48. I think he knows Daniel is someone from Regina's post, but probably not more. I am sure he does not know Cora killed him and what it meant for Regina.

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  49. I also dont understand how Regina fans want to apologize her after so many deaths and tortures she did.

    Yes she loves Henry. Yes it's true! She loves Henry!

    But that does not make her innocent. She's a killer. She herself does not even remember anymore who owns the hearts she ripped.

    I think Cora is more evil and dangerous than Regina. But being less or more, the two are both killers

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  50. No, it's not enough for her victims, I'm sure. It's probably not enough for Snow and Charming's victims either.

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  51. No one is absolving her. Stating that she was physically and emotionally abused as a child, then likely sexually and emotionally abused in her late teens/early twenties by much older men is just examining where she came from.

    The difference between Regina and all the other examples you gave is that those people actively trying to help them. Oddly enough, you mention Snow losing all those people and not turning evil, except that SHE DID. When she took the potion it removed aspects of her, the same aspects that had been conditioned out of Regina and thus Snow turned evil, yet Charming was there to try to help her back. The issue becomes the absence of support versus the having of it and the way it has an impact on someone's psychological development. Regina's actions often ARE wrong but wanting to understand the nature of them and wanting the characters to take responsibility for their actions without playing the useless blame game isn't the same as 'absolving' at all.

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  52. I don't see anyone absolving them either. But apparently if you don't think everything Snow and Charming do, despite the stream of bodies behind them, is perfectly wonderful you're some kind of hater and Regina apologist.


    I commented almost the same as you, that understanding where people came from and the differences between them and how that relates to their current psychological place isn't the same as condoning at all.

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  53. Apology/apologist are the words people throw around when they refuse to acknowledge that circumstances do matter and that some people actually do take them into account when viewing a character. Point is, if good does it then it's fine and justified, if "evil" does it then it is unforgivable and should be condemned in all respect. Once again, it shouldn't be so black and white but apparently the show is not really getting through. Hm.

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  54. No, they don't forget about it. And I'm still really confused about what exactly in the reactions to this sneak peek has sparked this discussion in the first place. I'm still hoping someone can explain this to me.

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  55. I'm a little bit confused. What victims do you mean? Snow and Charming don't kill people. They don't rape people. They don't abduct people.They fought against attackers (Reginas knights, King Georges knights) to defend themselves or others but they don't kill innocent people to get more power or to get revenge or to feel better. Maybe I'm wrong here but often it seems that you (and some other fans) place some mistakes Snow and Charming did on the same level with murder, bodily harm, abduction and destroying.

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  56. It's like you were taking the words out of my mouth! I'm so glad somebody said it! Couldn't agree more.

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  57. It is exhausting and frustrating, and at some point I refrain from commenting simply because I'll start repeating myself.

    Anyway, I agree, I absolutely love her development lately, there have been some spectacular scenes with Regina/Henry & Regina/David this season! It's a bit of a contrast from s1 when she was reserved most of the time, and occasionally displayed her vulnerability to Henry, whereas now she's so emotional and maternal in every scene. Btw I'm so glad that in the last episode he finally showed some response and expressed his approval that she's using magic only for good now. :) Lord knows that kid is hard to please. LOL

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  58. Very touching scene. But I hate that Henry says good always wins because to Regina no it doesn't, where were the forces of good when Cora decide to kill Daniel. Henry probably doesn't know about Daniel and that's okay but that one line is not always true in all cases.

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  59. Not all Witchcraft or Magic is evil, just to point that out. Think of the faeries in this show, they are magical. Love is also a form of magic in this show.

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  60. Good point here with Snow and the potion! Without love Snow did become less good not really really evil (and she had Charming to save her) but it changed her like it changed Regina... I never thought of that before but it's a great analysis

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  61. Snow attacking a castle in order to get her boyfriend back and people getting killed because of that comes to mind. Mistakes they make aren't on the same level Regina has but neither are Snow and Charming innocent snowflakes; people have died because of them.

    In the end, intent largely doesn't matter. When you tell someone their loved one is dead does it matter if it was Regina who did it on a quest of vengeance or Charming that did it because of true love? They're still dead and never coming back.

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  62. That would be me starting it by saying that Snow and Emma were willing to murder Mulan to ensure their path back to Storybrooke and this week Henry is putting them above anyone else by wanting them to take the risk that Cora gets to Storybrooke. Naturally that led to "but Regina is worsssse!" because every time a flaw in a character is pointed out, someone needs to point out how much worse Regina is.

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  63. Who gives a damn what Neal/Bae wants? He has zero say in anything regarding Henry.

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  64. A character's actions and flaws should stand on their own, but I always wonder why everybody has to compare a character's flaws to Regina's. No one ever seems to bring up any of Rumplestiltskin's evil deeds.

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  65. Some people use the down arrow to just say they disagree, the same way some use the up to say they agree. It doesn't have to be a personal insult.

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  66. Agreed. I have to say that what Henry said made me quite upset. "Good always wins." He has absolutely no idea what he's talking about, especially considering Gold, who is actual proof that it isn't always the case, is standing right there. All I got from what Henry said is that he's throwing all Regina's past failures in her face. And in a show where so many characters have made it clear that good and evil aren't strictly black and white, Henry's naivety seems so out of place. It's forgivable to a point of course, since he's a child, but the fact that he continues to place these "good guys" on pedestals, and insists that everything they do is right is definitely frustrating at the least.

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  67. I know it's not just black and white. And I don't hate Regina. She not my favorite character and I think she deserves to get confronted with her actions but I don't hate her. What I don't like is the balance. It seems to me that some fans are overcritical with Emma, Snow and Charming, especially with Emma and Charming, but very sympathic with Regina. Emma and her parents are not perfect, of course, but they are good, caring people. Regina wouldn't be alive anymore or alone in FTL if the Charmings weren't good people. They save Regina from the mob and from the wraith. And what was Reginas first reaction after Emma and Snow disappeared because of saving her? She tried to kill Charming. Yes, it's not just black and white but is it fair and okay to be more insightfully with the darker side than with the brighter side? I don't think so.

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  68. Well, I think you place the "evil guys" or al least one "evil guy" on a pedestal. Do you really think that Henry should consider Reginas feelings in this situation where Regina and Gold are going to kill Emma and Snow? Regina did so many horrible things but nobody should mention it because it hurts her? Seriously? I'm never be able to understand this approach. We talk about the evil queen. We talk about a woman who killed thousand of innocent people to get more power and/or to get revenge. Including Graham, Snows father and her own father. Yes, it's not just black and white and yes, she on her road to redemption but that don't mean that she doesn't deserve to hear hard words from the only person she love. This is the minimum of what she deserved. She is not imprisoned and the townpeoples don't try to kill her. That is far more mercy she showed. So I think she should hear some hard words sometimes.

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