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Once Upon a Time - Episode 2.08 - Into the Deep - Sneak Peek

21 Nov 2012

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61 comments:

  1. Courts21 November 2012 at 19:43

    I like the way Henry wants to be brave but man, they are really working hard to make Charming insufferable. Just, no need to insult Regina, Charming, because no, you HAVEN'T gone up against her even a single time so when RUMPLE says that Cora's the 'real' monster, perhaps believe the two people with much, much more experience with her than you.

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  2. 24fan21 November 2012 at 19:51

    Well he's still called David. So I'm willing to give Charming a pass

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  3. ALLA21 November 2012 at 19:52

    I try, seriously, I try, but I can't understand Charming' haters.
    Come on, Regina did this, Regina ruined his life.....what do you want?
    For me, Charming is the best developed character this season because Regina and Rumpel are soooo light and weak, I prefer them the last season.

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  4. Bruce_F21 November 2012 at 19:55

    "I faced you. How bad could it be."
    Ha! The writers gave David a zinger for a change. I certainly didn't expect that.

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  5. Ouroboros21 November 2012 at 19:56

    The episode's description is so misleading. Charming is the one who volunteers to endanger his life in order to save Snow. I like that the writers didn't go with the usual "Rumple and/or Regina trick someone into doing something for them"

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  6. Courts21 November 2012 at 20:00

    My issue is he's clearly not acting like David, David was a dick but he was a dick because he genuinely didn't want to hurt anyone whereas Charming is much more physically aggressive and tends to forget anyone who isn't Snow unless slapped into it by Ruby.

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  7. Marcela Mattiuzzo21 November 2012 at 20:00

    Rumple and Regina together, being bitchy and using magic. This episode is getting better by the minute.

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  8. Courts21 November 2012 at 20:00

    LOL. I can't agree. In my opinion Charming hasn't had a single moment of character development this whole season, he's served as a plot device and an awkward insertion into everyone else's story.


    What I want is for him to actually grow beyond being so selfish.

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  9. ecrc Rabit21 November 2012 at 20:02

    Charming wants his wife back. HE misses her. So is normal to react this way.

    Since last few week you have been promoting a campaign against Charming and snow. Any problem against people who miss their family...Or forgotten that Charming and family are in that situation because Rumpel made ​​the curse, and Regina, activated it...If Charming was vindictive, he would be violent or even kill someone. But the monsters only are, Rumpel, Regina, and Cora Hook. They rather kill

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  10. Courts21 November 2012 at 20:03

    But, in true David fashion, it's a little pathetic.

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  11. Courts21 November 2012 at 20:04

    No, I want Charming to act like a hero. Right now he has acted, more often than not, exactly like Rumple and Regina and the very people he decries.

    But in this I'm basing it on Charming just being an utter moron.

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  12. 12321 November 2012 at 20:05

    What Jack Shepherd was in Lost, is Charming now in OUAT...Some like it, some hate it. He is really starting to annoy me.....

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  13. Courts21 November 2012 at 20:06

    I just want him to be a hero and do the right thing but he doesn't. I get that he misses Snow but he's willing to take huge risks with other people's lives in order to get them back.

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  14. Bruce_F21 November 2012 at 20:06

    They gotta start somewhere. I don't expect Emma / Regina / Gold level snark from him.

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  15. 24fan21 November 2012 at 20:10

    I see your point..but why write him so? It's not like him at all. I'm sorry I'm still holding on to the Charming I fell for while starting this show.

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  16. Courts21 November 2012 at 20:10

    LOL. It's just...I feel bad for him now because he thinks he's faced Regina. Regina who can fucking DISINTEGRATE people with a wave of her hand.

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  17. Bruce_F21 November 2012 at 20:13

    To be fair, he said he faced Regina. He never said anything about being successful at it.

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  18. Courts21 November 2012 at 20:13

    I'm not sure why either. I guess they want him to fill the role left by Emma. I mean, it does fit with Charming's storyline last season, where when his mother's life was threatened finding Snow was still more important but I'm not sure why they feel the need to force him into things. His entire role in 2x05 made absolutely no sense beyond setting up Regina's story. And it seems like that in every episode but the first three.

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  19. ALLA21 November 2012 at 20:14

    Charming' haters begin to be a bit boring.

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  20. Courts21 November 2012 at 20:14

    "I faced her. I mean, I looked at her in the face. And she chose not to kill me even though she had my balls in a vice. So how bad can this person who two super villains say is even worse than them be?"

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  21. mark21 November 2012 at 20:15

    courts

    You must be very frustrated girl.

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  22. Bruce_F21 November 2012 at 20:16

    Ha! That's why his name is Charming and not Smart. :)

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  23. Ann-Sophie Beimer21 November 2012 at 20:17

    Every week it is becoming harder for me to tolerate Alpha Male Charming. He really is turning into such a Jack Shepherd type of character.

    And what kind of warped logic is that anyway? The minute Henry falls asleep he WILL go back to the burning room. Unless Rumple has a spell or a potion up his sleeve that stops Henry from dreaming or going to sleep altogether putting Charming under a sleeping curse is not going to make a difference. Unless Super-Charming can take control of his dream, contact Snow, come up with a way to bring them back and make it work all before Henry has to sleep again.

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  24. mark21 November 2012 at 20:17

    hum?????

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  25. mark21 November 2012 at 20:18

    of course Rumpel and Regia are angels lol

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  26. Ann-Sophie Beimer21 November 2012 at 20:19

    Same thing for me. He very much reminds me of Jack lately. And I'm one of those who don't like this type of character.

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  27. Courts21 November 2012 at 20:20

    I'm not a hater, bb. I want to see interesting characters do interesting things. Characters shouldn't be Good Guys just because you want them to be. Their actions need to live up to it and I like analyzing actions and motivations.

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  28. Courts21 November 2012 at 20:20

    ...what does that have to do with anything? You know that they're three different characters, right?

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  29. Courts21 November 2012 at 20:22

    Ha! That reminds me of Into the Woods: "I was raised to be charming, not sincere"

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  30. Courts21 November 2012 at 20:23

    People were freaking out and he called a town meeting where he said he would be the de facto leader and then bailed because Snow was more important.

    Now, we KNOW that the risk of bringing Snow and Emma back brings HUGE risk for the current town but he wants to do it

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  31. Aurimar Hernández Barrientos21 November 2012 at 20:29

    Dunno, maybe she saw a different clip? because the one I watched had Charming asking to be put under a sleeping curse so HE could contact Snow and Henry wouldn't have to try again.

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  32. Courts21 November 2012 at 20:41

    It's true, I am. I constantly search for intellectual stimulation and people who like watching media and examining characters actions beyond mindless good/bad dichotomies but instead I just get insulted.

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  33. Aurimar Hernández Barrientos21 November 2012 at 20:50

    Yes, he bailed on the meeting and then came back to calm people down and stop them from crossing the town's border.
    He's not the only one, Henry wants them back too and therefore Regina because Henry told her to get them back if she wanted him to believe she loved him. They are ALL putting the town at risk.

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  34. phnxgrl21 November 2012 at 20:53

    That is too bad. It seems most people are not interested in deeper levels of discussion on motives or character flaws.

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  35. Rita Coelho21 November 2012 at 20:58

    I dont know why you will not see other shows with characters more 'interesting' Because it seems to me that you spend your days in Once Upon a Time topics unloading venom against Charming!

    And worse, repeating yourself.

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  36. Rita Coelho21 November 2012 at 21:00

    So I adv ice you get a life!

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  37. Rita Coelho21 November 2012 at 21:05

    I think you need to found a forum for it.
    It's only a Sneak Peek...not all OUaT episodes

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  38. Helsing6121 November 2012 at 21:07

    "Dreams" story smells like a plot hole in the making. I do not understand why they are taking it away from Henry and Aurora too. I was happy when Aurora had the dreams because she is an underdeveloped character. Once Upon A Time writers waste Sarah Bolger's talents. When Aurora had the first dream I thought, yes, now she's getting her story. But they take it away from her again. Why must it always be Snow White and Charming who do heroic things? We see them & proof they have true love all the time! I want to see more of Aurora, Mulan, Henry. They are underdeveloped characters and deserve a story too.

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  39. Rita Coelho21 November 2012 at 21:16

    Because Snow and Charming are the root of the plot, in case you noticed...

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  40. Courts21 November 2012 at 21:20

    I don't understand what this comment means.

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  41. Courts21 November 2012 at 21:20

    But Charming is the driving force because Henry is a CHILD.

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  42. Courts21 November 2012 at 21:21

    I agree. Why bring them in at all if they're not going to use them?

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  43. Courts21 November 2012 at 21:22

    You realize that this IS a forum for it? That there actually ARE people here interested in it?

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  44. Ann-Sophie Beimer21 November 2012 at 21:37

    Can you stop with the cheap shots? Courts is disagreeing with you about a fictional character. Personal attacks are uncalled for.

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  45. Ann-Sophie Beimer21 November 2012 at 21:53

    Yeah, bringing in Aurora has been a little pointless so far. I'm sure they'll do a proper Sleeping Beauty ep later this season, but they could've done more with Aurora and Mulan in present day fairytale land.



    But after the first two episodes the entire present day fairytale land became slow paced and slightly dull or served only as a means to introduce another new character - Hook. JMO of course.

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  46. Justine Kubica21 November 2012 at 22:47

    I adore Charming! Yeah, let's get them back! And I just can't wait for Snow&Charming reunion!

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  47. Emma ♡ Neal21 November 2012 at 23:28

    Me too Snow&Charming...LOVE THEM since the 'pilot'

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  48. Pasle Amoredois22 November 2012 at 11:03

    Normally I dont comment here . I only read. But I did it cause I understand Rita.
    Cause I notice too that Courts is always against Charming or his family. As if only the characters she loves are wonderful. (some quite boring too). yes Courts seems love evil characters. Well I love Rumpel too but I dont recess on characters I dont like
    Courts intervene in all responses that dont agree with her too. She is disagreeing with everyone who loves Charming.
    This is a total disregard for anyone who loves Charming
    Make cheap comments, is a Rita's way to avoid arguments. I would do the same, because change negative comments about a character not lead anywhere. Are the authors and writers who write Charming. Why Courts dont complain whit them?

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  49. Pasle Amoredois22 November 2012 at 11:15

    I love Charming too. I think Josh Dallas is doing a great job and scoring well the difference between David and Charming. Many people don't understand because they live set only one character. Or because they think that romance thing is stupid. Many think only villains give emotion to the show. Charming loves his family and will do everything to bring back. And he is not risking the lives of other people, but to his own life. Which of us would not put our family first? Is this criminal?

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  50. Pasle Amoredois22 November 2012 at 11:26

    I don't think Charming is the kind of person who would leave Henry alone without having the certainty that he will come back. Does he know for sure? Of course not; but he chooses to believe what his heart is telling him before endangering Henry any further, plus he knows that no matter what Regina might be capable of she has proven already that she has no desire to hurt her son and that's the reason he has asked her to look after him when he can't and the reason he feels confident enough to take this upon himself and simultaneously look after the well being of his grandson.

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  51. Ralissa Vassilissa22 November 2012 at 17:45

    Really, you didn't expect that? It's hardly the first zinger from David. :D

    "Whatever you conjure, I can fight!" (2x02) *draws sword to threaten Regina*
    Remember that one?

    Or my personal favourite, 2x02 again, when she says she's surprised he doesn't have guards, he replies "Don't need them. We both know if you step outside there's a line a mile long for your head." That statement would have made sense if only he hadn't stepped INSIDE her house.


    I just love Josh Dallas so much I prefer to laugh off Charming's efforts at showing his bravery. He can be quite hilarious when he makes so little sense! :D

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  52. Ralissa Vassilissa22 November 2012 at 17:55

    But that's kind of his trademark, otherwise positive character features are taken to an absolute extreme in him, and ultimately turn to vice.

    He's romantic and sensitive > he ended up cheating on Katheryn and lying to Mary Margaret, out of concern not to hurt either one.

    He's brave > he puts his life in danger, even if his heroic act is illogical and would accomplish nothing but his death.
    When you think about it, that's certainly an interesting way to bring a realistic flawed character to life who still fits the "Prince Charming" archetype in a way.

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  53. Courts22 November 2012 at 20:20

    You know this comment doesn't make any sense, right?

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  54. Courts22 November 2012 at 20:22

    That's a really good point. But apparently, thinking Charming is anything but the most perfectest character that ever was created is akin a personal attack.

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  55. Ralissa Vassilissa22 November 2012 at 21:07

    Oh, sweetie, don't let strangers bring you down!
    When you have a strong opinion about something and you dare to voice it, there's always a risk that someone will disagree with you. That someone might intelligently give reasons as to why he/she disagrees with you, or he/she might, e.g. call you names and give you a "thumbs down". The latter is quite unimaginative if you ask me, but it's the most common option. So when you speak your mind, you have to be prepared to be unpopular.
    I've had "thumbs down" for even the most positive and uncontroversial of comments, but that won't stop me from expressing my point of view. After all, it's a good way of finding people who feel the same way I do. :)

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  56. Courts23 November 2012 at 01:36

    :D I want Charming to be a better character. Right now he doesn't have very much characterization and is treated as a plot device rather than an actual character. I had a conversation on a different forum about how little they're doing with him and how they've lost all the best opportunities to actually move him forward as a character just because we can name two things about him, he's brave and he loves Snow. There are a million questions I have about Charming and his personality that aren't answered but we've seen similar questions answered in regards to Rumple, Snow and Regina, even to an extent Emma.

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  57. chairluva4eva23 November 2012 at 11:35

    Love Charming especially at the end!

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  58. DarthLocke425 November 2012 at 22:49

    I think it depends on what your definition of a Hero is. IMO it takes GREAT self control for Charming to not engage in bitter vengeful acts, considering what has all been done to him and his family. I think in some ways Charming leans towards Buddhism, because he often takes the high road. IMO that is heroic, as it promotes Utopian values, rather than giving into other's hate. Once in a while he snaps back and you never know what it is that's going to to push his threshold!

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  59. DarthLocke425 November 2012 at 23:06

    I think he is lot like Jack (good Shepard , except that I think Charming has a better and more certain spiritual understanding with himself and the world that Jack didn't. Jack often also took the high road, but their were moments where he could really emotionally get unglued. We really haven't seen Charming go there yet and I am not sure we will very often, because of the this difference. Jack didn't want to be the leader, but due the quantum mechanics in Lost universe (multiple universe several life times = things that become lost and/or innate over time) he was forced to face what he didn't like or understand (death/fate). IMO Charming isn't in the dark, being a hero, but in the light being a hero. It's not that I wouldn't like a little more from him, or more of an explanation about why he is able to be the way he is and/or to learn if there is a big contrast between himself and his former twin.

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  60. DarthLocke426 November 2012 at 00:15

    Actually the forum is here:http://www.spoilertv.co.uk/forum/index.php



    However (agreeing with you), after Lost, it has declined in population a lot and more people tend to comment and discuss shows in all matters here on the comments section instead! Yes, I would say there are a lot of us people interested and we do use this comments section much like a forum. A lot of us speculate and get into character/plot debates, which I think as long as we are respectful in our differences, is wonderful thing! :D

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  61. DarthLocke426 November 2012 at 00:25

    Although I sometimes disagree with Courts about Charming, I can understand why she sees him that way, because in some ways he is presented the least flawed character, as he has not shown much of an emotional 'dark' side, and additionally as season one David, he really was presented in a nonsensical very confused fashion, which I feel is intentional, as the curse was meant to create unhappiness for Snow/Mary Margret. In some ways I agree with her that his story has been more on the back burner to make way for the development of other characters, but I also think that Charming is also intentionally contrasted to be 'the best natured' compared to almost everyone else, as he might represent a moral center and foundation of goodness for the other characters (a rock), but that doesn't mean I wouldn't like to know more about why he is that way, or if there is something that could potentially unhinge him? We don't really know why he is able to be so charming all the time.

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