LOL at him popping up behind her after she steals the car. And why did he just hit on her? And I'm guessing he let her keep the car? Did he steal it, too, though?
And if she stole it, why does she still have the car? LOL, so many questions.
Emma looks like an expert at the car stealing thing, wonder if that's why she ends up in jail for so long. And how weird was that "hey, you just stole my car, wanna hang out?"
I loved the bts pics better with these two than anything with Emma and Hook. And it's true for this sneak too, so bring them on.
And I am hoping that he really is Bae. Jen just tweeted that the writers have told her who Henry's father is while they were doing the pilot. Now why would they do that if he is just some random guy?
The writing is so bad. Wow. Emma is back in stupid mode. And note to producers: if the ponytail is supposed to make her look younger, the glasses counter any positive effects. At least "Neal Cassidy" has more charm than Hook, but less than Neal Caffrey. :)
Except for the dubious flashback visuals which I agree with you about, I think that was actually a good clip. The dynamic between these two is a lot more important than what they look like.
Neal is funny and he definitely has the rascally charm that is needed (vs say Hook, who doesn't), but the rationality in that scene is just totally shot for me. I mean what were they even saying? Humor and charm will get you most of the way though. I enjoyed the clip more than a lot of them this season, so there's that. :)
No, sorry the pilot was only weeks ago in storybrooke time. (the first season was contained to a few week period of time) He is 10. The show didn't age a year over the course of the hiatus. In fact when the show picked up this season it was mere moments after the curse lifted.
Alright I'll give ya that, but he is still 10. What I'm getting at is this guy will end up being Henry's pops, regardless of the timing. Why else would it say 11 years earlier? Lets say Henry is 11, then why isn't she massively preggo, or at the very least carrying an infant around?
We know she gave birth in jail, and apparently she isn't in jail yet, so all the clues point to the fact that Henry hasn't been conceived at this point, but will be shortly, which would make him 10 within 9 months of 11.
So, I am just going to re apply my previous comment because other than Robin Hood or something not connected I think this suits the story as it is headed so far.
I think he is Henrys dad and Henry's dad is Peter Pan. Peter and the crocodile were kind of allies. Rumple also worked with Jefferson and would have been able to travel to Neverland. Rumple also did not know about Pinnochio sneaking into the wardrobe so he would have needed someone who could already escape the curse to be able to bring Emma to storybrooke. Which he would of planned since he is a master of his own plan. Since he ended up getting her pregnant he probably would have got custody. Wether that was part of the plan to ensure she would go to storybrooke or an accident I don't know. He would have brought the baby to Rumple with perhaps the arrangement that he could come back once the curse was broken. Hence the bird bringing him the note in the window....... ? Maybe?
They are not really good in keeping track of time. But Henry is definitely 10. Emma gave birth when she was 18 and since she is 28 now take away 11 years and she is 17 in this clip. So she'll be pregnant soon. So add 9 months to this and we have a little Henry.
Don't you think that if Rumple had the power of sending Peter Pan to the normal world he would do that to himself? The whole point of this curse was to find Bae. We still don't know how Henry ended up with Regina, but I don't think that he sent someone to get Emma pregnant. That would be just silly. I guess this Neal is probably Bae or maybe just some random guy. But don't forget the fact that August was contacting someone while he was in Storybrooke. So maybe it was Neal.
Even if the timing works out -although it has been at least a few month's time between seasons 1 and 2-my question is this ,how can he be trying to "make an honest woman out of Emma" -according to the synopsis-since they are only now just meeting?
Well, I guess this is kind of simple. They met, he will help her with the police issue, she'll agree to have drinks with him, he will try to make her an honest woman, they'll have sex and she will be pregnant but he leaves her and she'll commit some crime and she will be arrested and the rest is history. This can go on and on for a couple of months which won't be an issue for them to have sex. And during this period of time she'll be pregnant and somehow she will be a fellon and he can say that she is unfixable so he'll leave her without knowing that she is pregnant.
Rumple Brought Henry to Regina. They discussed it more than once in season 1. Also, Rumple didn't need any ability to send Peter to the real world. That's what Peter Pan did. He flew here and visited on many occasions. I also said maybe he asked him too or maybe it just happened. At any rate, it could work.
My theory is similar. He won't make an honest woman out of her in the traditional sense of the phrase, but in a more literal sense.
I think he will tell the cops he gave her the car to get her out of trouble for obviously punching the ignition (which to any cop will signify a stolen car) They will go have drinks, then end up in bed together, then she'll leave him and really steal his car in the morning. Sometime after this she will end up getting caught doing some other petty crime, and end up in jail where some months down the road she'll have Henry. Henry will be sent to a foster home to end up adopted by Regina. I think this guy will also be a FTL character as well (not sure which but Baelfire is my guess) He will be the one to contact Regina regarding his son because he is trying to keep Henry from his father AKA "The Dark One".
Well it might be like you wrote, but I guess if he is Bae, he knows that his father is here, but don't think that he have a deal with Regina, it would be more true if August was making anything to be closer to Regina and why he would like to keep son away from Rumpel? we don't even know if he knows that he is a father
I meant how exactly Emma's son ended up with Regina. We know that Gold wanted some kids (example Cinderella) but we don't know why. Maybe he knew about savior's baby or maybe he just wanted redemption. We know that they are changing stories, so instead of a crocodile we had Rumpelstiltskin, maybe there is no Peter Pan because we know that he was the one who cut off Hook's hand. Right now it is really hard to predict the future in this show and this is what i like about it.
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Well I see that differently. Bae loves his father and don't think he hates him now. He just hated the person he bacame so he made a decision to leave. He might be sad that his father decided to stay, but well it has been a long time and I am sure that Bae just have some issues with his dad, but when he'll find out what Rumpel did I am sure he'll forgive him
I guess we'll see come Sunday, if in fact this guy is Bae of course. One thing though. How would you know if Bae still loves his father since we haven't seen him since he went down the portal? I could be wrong of course, and hate may not be the right word for it, but it seems to me that his relationship with dearie ole dad would be affected in a negative way since Rumples has an issue with courage. Also in that episode where we saw Bae go down the hole, we also saw that Bae didn't exactly approve of his dad's actions, or the fact that daddy was "The Dark One" now. I tend to think the writers would play off of his daddy issues, especially since these are the same writers who wrote a big chunk of the show LOST which was chock full of Daddy issues. It's one of their favorite themes.
well of course, if he is Bae, but maybe he is not and there is still Bae somewhere. August knows him because he had too many really personal informations about Rumpel.
I can assume that Bae loves his father because he knew him before he became "The Dark One" and he was trying to get his daddy back. And of course he was disapointed that Rumpel decided that magic is more important than his son, but hate is a really strong word. And Bae can be angry with him, of course, I don't think that they will be in each others arms straight away when they'll meet, but I think this is more about trust issues. Bae knew that his dad is the bad one, and the magic is powerful so he might not trust his pops with the whole change, but when he'll stick around Rumpel can just prove it to him that he changed for him.
I agree with you somewhat. I agree that in the long run Rumples will come around, and get back into Bae's good graces, but I suspect that it will be a long hard road to get there. I suspect that Bae will resent his father for abandoning him into a scary new world, and that after years and years he will hold some type of negative feeling toward his father.
Well you've got a point. But there is whole season to do that so maybe they will be ok. And probably if this guy is Bae we will get episode about him as well. I am sure that their meeting will be heartbreaking.
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LOL at him popping up behind her after she steals the car. And why did he just hit on her? And I'm guessing he let her keep the car? Did he steal it, too, though?
ReplyDeleteAnd if she stole it, why does she still have the car? LOL, so many questions.
I wonder if he is Ba that'd be interesting.
ReplyDeleteEmma stole the car while he was inside? Or that he had stolen the car first? lolololol
ReplyDeletecant wait to see it!
So I guess she kept the car;)
ReplyDeleteEmma looks like an expert at the car stealing thing, wonder if that's why she ends up in jail for so long. And how weird was that "hey, you just stole my car, wanna hang out?"
ReplyDeleteI wonder if he is Ba that'd be interesting. http://thecheapestnewcar.com
ReplyDeleteI loved the bts pics better with these two than anything with Emma and Hook. And it's true for this sneak too, so bring them on.
ReplyDeleteAnd I am hoping that he really is Bae. Jen just tweeted that the writers have told her who Henry's father is while they were doing the pilot. Now why would they do that if he is just some random guy?
If he is Bae and also Henry father then that would make Rumplestilskin Henrys Grandfather. Anyone thought of that?
ReplyDeleteXmm if that's 11 years ago and Emma and Neal Cassidy are just now meeting it doesn't really add up him being Henry's father...
ReplyDelete"Expert"? That might way too kind for such incompetence.
ReplyDeleteThe writing is so bad. Wow. Emma is back in stupid mode. And note to producers: if the ponytail is supposed to make her look younger, the glasses counter any positive effects. At least "Neal Cassidy" has more charm than Hook, but less than Neal Caffrey. :)
ReplyDeleteGood stuff. That was surprisingly funny.
ReplyDeleteExcept for the dubious flashback visuals which I agree with you about, I think that was actually a good clip. The dynamic between these two is a lot more important than what they look like.
ReplyDeleteHenry is 10 correct? 10 years plus nine months = pretty close to 11 years ago.
ReplyDeleteNeal is funny and he definitely has the rascally charm that is needed (vs say Hook, who doesn't), but the rationality in that scene is just totally shot for me. I mean what were they even saying? Humor and charm will get you most of the way though. I enjoyed the clip more than a lot of them this season, so there's that. :)
ReplyDeleteHe was 10 back in the pilot so he must be 11 now..
ReplyDeleteFair enough.
ReplyDeleteNo, sorry the pilot was only weeks ago in storybrooke time. (the first season was contained to a few week period of time) He is 10. The show didn't age a year over the course of the hiatus. In fact when the show picked up this season it was mere moments after the curse lifted.
ReplyDeleteI'm pretty sure it was a few months, not only weeks.
ReplyDeleteEmma and Neal have good chemistry. At least better than Emma and Hook.
ReplyDeleteAlright I'll give ya that, but he is still 10. What I'm getting at is this guy will end up being Henry's pops, regardless of the timing. Why else would it say 11 years earlier? Lets say Henry is 11, then why isn't she massively preggo, or at the very least carrying an infant around?
ReplyDeleteWe know she gave birth in jail, and apparently she isn't in jail yet, so all the clues point to the fact that Henry hasn't been conceived at this point, but will be shortly, which would make him 10 within 9 months of 11.
It's a given that Neal is Henry's father.
ReplyDeleteIf he's not Bae, he's gotta be someone connected to FTL then...
So, I am just going to re apply my previous comment because other than Robin Hood or something not connected I think this suits the story as it is headed so far.
ReplyDeleteI think he is Henrys dad and Henry's dad is Peter Pan. Peter and the crocodile were kind of allies. Rumple also worked with Jefferson and would have been able to travel to Neverland. Rumple also did not know about Pinnochio sneaking into the wardrobe so he would have needed someone who could already escape the curse to be able to bring Emma to storybrooke. Which he would of planned since he is a master of his own plan. Since he ended up getting her pregnant he probably would have got custody. Wether that was part of the plan to ensure she would go to storybrooke or an accident I don't know. He would have brought the baby to Rumple with perhaps the arrangement that he could come back once the curse was broken. Hence the bird bringing him the note in the window....... ? Maybe?
They are not really good in keeping track of time. But Henry is definitely 10. Emma gave birth when she was 18 and since she is 28 now take away 11 years and she is 17 in this clip. So she'll be pregnant soon. So add 9 months to this and we have a little Henry.
ReplyDeleteDon't you think that if Rumple had the power of sending Peter Pan to the normal world he would do that to himself? The whole point of this curse was to find Bae. We still don't know how Henry ended up with Regina, but I don't think that he sent someone to get Emma pregnant. That would be just silly. I guess this Neal is probably Bae or maybe just some random guy. But don't forget the fact that August was contacting someone while he was in Storybrooke. So maybe it was Neal.
ReplyDeleteNope. I think you are literally the first person to think of that.
ReplyDeleteEven if the timing works out -although it has been at least a few month's time between seasons 1 and 2-my question is this ,how can he be trying to "make an honest woman out of Emma" -according to the synopsis-since they are only now just meeting?
ReplyDeleteWell, I guess this is kind of simple. They met, he will help her with the police issue, she'll agree to have drinks with him, he will try to make her an honest woman, they'll have sex and she will be pregnant but he leaves her and she'll commit some crime and she will be arrested and the rest is history. This can go on and on for a couple of months which won't be an issue for them to have sex. And during this period of time she'll be pregnant and somehow she will be a fellon and he can say that she is unfixable so he'll leave her without knowing that she is pregnant.
ReplyDeleteRumple Brought Henry to Regina. They discussed it more than once in season 1. Also, Rumple didn't need any ability to send Peter to the real world. That's what Peter Pan did. He flew here and visited on many occasions. I also said maybe he asked him too or maybe it just happened. At any rate, it could work.
ReplyDeleteMy theory is similar. He won't make an honest woman out of her in the traditional sense of the phrase, but in a more literal sense.
ReplyDeleteI think he will tell the cops he gave her the car to get her out of trouble for obviously punching the ignition (which to any cop will signify a stolen car) They will go have drinks, then end up in bed together, then she'll leave him and really steal his car in the morning. Sometime after this she will end up getting caught doing some other petty crime, and end up in jail where some months down the road she'll have Henry. Henry will be sent to a foster home to end up adopted by Regina. I think this guy will also be a FTL character as well (not sure which but Baelfire is my guess) He will be the one to contact Regina regarding his son because he is trying to keep Henry from his father AKA "The Dark One".
Well it might be like you wrote, but I guess if he is Bae, he knows that his father is here, but don't think that he have a deal with Regina, it would be more true if August was making anything to be closer to Regina and why he would like to keep son away from Rumpel? we don't even know if he knows that he is a father
ReplyDeleteI meant how exactly Emma's son ended up with Regina. We know that Gold wanted some kids (example Cinderella) but we don't know why. Maybe he knew about savior's baby or maybe he just wanted redemption.
ReplyDeleteWe know that they are changing stories, so instead of a crocodile we had Rumpelstiltskin, maybe there is no Peter Pan because we know that he was the one who cut off Hook's hand. Right now it is really hard to predict the future in this show and this is what i like about it.
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ReplyDeleteI figure it is because he kinda hates his father now since Rumples had forsaken him.
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ReplyDeleteWell I see that differently. Bae loves his father and don't think he hates him now. He just hated the person he bacame so he made a decision to leave. He might be sad that his father decided to stay, but well it has been a long time and I am sure that Bae just have some issues with his dad, but when he'll find out what Rumpel did I am sure he'll forgive him
ReplyDeleteI guess we'll see come Sunday, if in fact this guy is Bae of course. One thing though. How would you know if Bae still loves his father since we haven't seen him since he went down the portal? I could be wrong of course, and hate may not be the right word for it, but it seems to me that his relationship with dearie ole dad would be affected in a negative way since Rumples has an issue with courage. Also in that episode where we saw Bae go down the hole, we also saw that Bae didn't exactly approve of his dad's actions, or the fact that daddy was "The Dark One" now. I tend to think the writers would play off of his daddy issues, especially since these are the same writers who wrote a big chunk of the show LOST which was chock full of Daddy issues. It's one of their favorite themes.
ReplyDeletewell of course, if he is Bae, but maybe he is not and there is still Bae somewhere. August knows him because he had too many really personal informations about Rumpel.
ReplyDeleteI can assume that Bae loves his father because he knew him before he became "The Dark One" and he was trying to get his daddy back. And of course he was disapointed that Rumpel decided that magic is more important than his son, but hate is a really strong word. And Bae can be angry with him, of course, I don't think that they will be in each others arms straight away when they'll meet, but I think this is more about trust issues. Bae knew that his dad is the bad one, and the magic is powerful so he might not trust his pops with the whole change, but when he'll stick around Rumpel can just prove it to him that he changed for him.
I agree with you somewhat. I agree that in the long run Rumples will come around, and get back into Bae's good graces, but I suspect that it will be a long hard road to get there. I suspect that Bae will resent his father for abandoning him into a scary new world, and that after years and years he will hold some type of negative feeling toward his father.
ReplyDeleteWell you've got a point. But there is whole season to do that so maybe they will be ok. And probably if this guy is Bae we will get episode about him as well. I am sure that their meeting will be heartbreaking.
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