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Now with romance, 'Castle' feels like a different series to Stana Katic
Blame it on love. After some exquisitely protracted flirtation, roguish mystery writer Richard Castle (Nathan Fillion) and keen NYPD homicide detective Kate Beckett (Stana Katic) are finally exchanging pillow banter in the fifth season of Castle.
Or maybe it's not the sex. Because the audience for this intoxicating and unique comedy-romance-crime procedural hybrid has grown every year it's been on the air.
In any event, this season strikes its star as different. "I feel like it's a new series entirely," says Katic. "The tone is lighter now that the two characters are together. It's a treat to go to work."
Two side effects of the passion plot line: Fans of the show, determined to come up with a cute pet name for the couple, have settled on the unfortunate "Caskett".
And the new intimacy means that in many scenes this year, Katic, 34, is wearing less clothing
"It's a balancing act to make it sensual and keep it modest enough for network television," she says. "The other element is I'm protective of the character. She's the romantic lead, but I don't want her objectified, especially since our audience is so heavily weighted with females. I definitely want her to be respected."
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Now with romance, 'Castle' feels like a different series to Stana Katic
Blame it on love. After some exquisitely protracted flirtation, roguish mystery writer Richard Castle (Nathan Fillion) and keen NYPD homicide detective Kate Beckett (Stana Katic) are finally exchanging pillow banter in the fifth season of Castle.
Or maybe it's not the sex. Because the audience for this intoxicating and unique comedy-romance-crime procedural hybrid has grown every year it's been on the air.
In any event, this season strikes its star as different. "I feel like it's a new series entirely," says Katic. "The tone is lighter now that the two characters are together. It's a treat to go to work."
Two side effects of the passion plot line: Fans of the show, determined to come up with a cute pet name for the couple, have settled on the unfortunate "Caskett".
And the new intimacy means that in many scenes this year, Katic, 34, is wearing less clothing
"It's a balancing act to make it sensual and keep it modest enough for network television," she says. "The other element is I'm protective of the character. She's the romantic lead, but I don't want her objectified, especially since our audience is so heavily weighted with females. I definitely want her to be respected."
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what a great interview. Loventhat she is opening herself up a little more. Great to get to know the person Stana.
ReplyDeleteHmmm I think this question of Rick's depth is an interesting one. Castle is one person who is fiercely loyal and is exactly the man Kate needs. I think Stana questioning that is a bit disturbing at least to this fan.
ReplyDeleteSome of those comments were a bit disturbing.
ReplyDeleteInteresting. I always hear that Beckett is growing and changing, but Castle apparently is still a cad? Wouldn't it be better to try this growing and changing thing with Castle, than eternally use him and his caddiness as an excuse for Beckett's doubts and insecurities? Honestly, I'm not trying to hurt anyone's fan feels, but Castle has been no more than a reaction.gif to Beckett for quite some time now. I understand the need to develop a powerful female role-model character, but he's still a title character, sort of. Some people want him to demonstrate a bit of depth too (and not in a silent sadsack mode of the previous season, no).
ReplyDeleteTrue, a couple of those comments seem out of character for Castle, considering he's followed her around for 4 years, however, I am not worried at all..I trust Andrew Marlowe.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you. Unless she was talking about something we don't know yet and will be shown soon I can't see why she is questioning Castle's commitment (to Beckett).
ReplyDeleteI mean, he had always been by her side, waited for her and fought so hard to get her; We watched him struggling to explain his feelings while Martha was there trying to encourage him to make a move!
I don't know, in my mind Castle is more than ready to walk with Beckett in the aisle, the question is: Does she?
Once Kate told Rick that regarding marriage "she is one-and-done". I doubt that he'll blown up his chance knowing her so well.
First of all, thanks for the link.
ReplyDeleteSecond: seriously? I love Stana's interviews, but this one has some serious points I dislike.
"I don't want her objectified, especially since our
audience is so heavily weighted with females. I definitely want her to
be respected."
True and I second the motion. At the same time I would like to see Castle being respected too. Not making him a caricature, on the level of a four year old who momma has to lure out frum under the bed if he sees a scary face in the cartoon.
"The Castle character has always been something of a cad - very funny,
very charming, but as soon as the question of more depth comes up, he
bounces, ... I wonder if that's going to be enough"
For four years we had been told that the whole WTWT, the nonexisting SOs, the stall of the last season was necessary because she needed time and experience to clearly see that Castle isn't a cad anymore. Now are we going back to this? If yes, I hope it will happen soon - the sooner I learn it the less time I waste for the show.
I can't decide which is worse, if this is her own image of them, that's how she sees the two characters or if this is the PR blurb which is given out to the participants to answer the topics like these.
P.S.: well if the interview is as correct as the quoted numbers in the first sentence, it's not even worth to read. The average viewer number of the six episodes was 10.54 million not 14.1.
"Castle has been no more than a reaction.gif to Beckett for quite some time now" - unfortunately you are 100% right. Now if they will push him back to the empty clown/womanizer box just that again he has to crawl for her acceptance, I'm out. I wanted to see them equal, not SuperBarbie Beckett and Pathetic Castle.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you. Sometimes it looks like Marlowe and the writers have fallen in love with the Beckett character. But how can they go back now, they can`t have them break up and still work together
ReplyDeleteAgreed. I have some unpleasant experience with showrunners playing favorites (Buffy anyone?). Shows turn to shit, with only one POV, only one character being explored and (always) justified. I hope it doesn't happen here beyond what have already happened.
ReplyDeleteBecause Beckett still doesn't know why Castle's two previous marriages failed, just because he's a loyal friend/partner, committed father, generous son doesn't mean he's hubby material if you know what I mean. When was the last time Castle had a long term romantic relationship with a woman? That really has to bother Beckett and shade some doubts.
ReplyDeleteit is 14.1 if you add the L+7 DVR numbers
ReplyDeleteI imagine those numbers include the final+ dvr
ReplyDeleteThey have to give the Castle character some depth soon, because if the whole season is going to revolve around Beckett`s insecurities, people are going to tune out very fast
ReplyDeleteBut in that case it's not the best, the first e.g. the first six episode of the last season was better.
ReplyDeleteNo, it just mean that more people are DVRing their favorite shows rather than watching live. Castle viewers are up this year.
ReplyDeleteIn my notes the average of the first four episodes L+7 numbers were higher than in this year. (There are only four L+7 numbers yet.)
ReplyDeleteStana or Kate? Reality or fiction? CASTLE is fiction, Stana's 'needs' should not be an issue in the CASKETT relationship - she is not Kate. CASTLE & BECKETT are two sides of the same coin - opposites; not perfect, perfect together. THE WRITERS are THE CREATORS & can do whatever they want: Kate running in stilettos, perfect hair, 'vanishing' scars. Richard ruggedly handsome, working 'full time' in a police station with little restrictions, partnering Detective Beckett...get the idea? It's their story, their universe, their choice....ALWAYS....! :)
ReplyDeleteLike it very much!!
ReplyDeleteWhile I agree that it'd be nice to explore the Castle character more, I think I know the reason that the showrunners aren't really doing so. This is quite blunt, but in my opinion, Stana has a wider, more convincing acting range. Nathan's great at the comedy and lightness, but when it comes to the more emotional stuff, it just doesn't quite match up to Stana's performance. In my view, the writers will have noted this early on and they'll want to play to the strengths of the actors to get the best possible show - that is, giving Stana most of the meatier storylines. Also, I think the character of Beckett is just more of a mineable character because of her past etc, whereas Castle doesn't seem to have any particular skeletons.
ReplyDeleteWhat did you think of the comments Stana made about Castle/Beckett in the interview?
ReplyDeleteWell, let's just agree to disagree. Because the majority of dramatic scenes I actually found moving on Castle (not a lot) came from Castle, i.e. Nathan Fillion. I'm not a fan of Mariska Hargitay type of acting and/or acting parts, which I feel Beckett was groomed to do. Hysterics is not my thing and tears are not = great acting talent. I find both Stana and Nathan much more believable and relatable in more reserved and "human" dramatic scenes (not Killshot, more Final Nail type of episode). As for your comment about Fillion's acting abilities, I guess you never watched him in other roles. Or may be it's your personal taste and that's OK. But I seriously doubt he couldn't handle more depth in Castle after playing Mal.
ReplyDeleteI think we`ve seen in season 4 and this one that the focus has been shifting more and more towards Beckett. I have no idea why though,, Nathan has shown on Castle and in his past that he is perfectly capable of being more than just funny. He was the reason i started watching Castle, so I just hope there will be some good storylines for him this season
ReplyDeleteHa, he's no Laurence Olivier, but it's not like Katic is Meryl Streep exactly. And Castle is not Shakespeare LOL. Don't get me wrong, I like the show and I think both actors are really good (partial to Fillion though, myself). But I don't see any high bar here. Or you think he can't handle a tastefully done dramatic scene or two to explore the chatacter some more? Then he is a worse actor than 95% of other leads on TV, and I really don't think so. It's clearly the writers problem. I agree about Beckett being more mineable for conventional drama as you put it, but good writers would have found ways to develop ALL characters they wrote into their show, let alone the title character. I haven't seen yet them trying to do it and Fillion failing to deliver. But you are of course entitled to your opinion and all that.
ReplyDeleteAgree with this entirely. I think Beckett needs to know what really caused the break up of his two marriages. She may then be able to evaluate whether she even wants to take the relationship to the next level. She knows without doubt that he is a good father but as a husband, so far he has failed. She really is going to want some answers.
ReplyDeleteOkay, now I am extremely confused...I though Stana wanted Caskett to happen! And now she's doubting they can stay together for awhile? I don't understand...
ReplyDeleteWell I agree that Beckett needs to know about his previous marriages (we need to know) but, it was already told that Meredith cheated on Rick and Gina was a control freak with a credit card so, I hope that Beckett asks him directly not assuming it was just his fault.
ReplyDeleteOf course Castle is not a saint but a relationship is a 50/50 commitment (both sides should invest in it) and that is exactly the difference between Castle/Beckett and Castle/ex-wives. Can you really imagine Rick married with Gina or Meredith now?? Because I can't, not anymore.
In my point of view that's the reason he hadn't been in a serious and long relationship for some time, he can't accept something "superficial" , he wants Kate.
it was told to the audience that Meredith cheated on him, Beckett wasn't even present then and they haven't had that conversation yet, that's exactly what we're going to see in season 5. Beckett and Castle are going to have that much needed conversation once the honey moon period is over.
ReplyDeleteIt is also kind of funny (not really, more like annoying), that when the relationships should turn to be serious, it is naturally Castle, who bounces back. Remind me, who was always only with one leg in a relationship previously?
ReplyDeleteStana could have been misquoted or what she said could have been taken out of context when talking about Castle as a character. These things can happen..
ReplyDeletehehehe, this is something new! Nathan Fillion is such a lame actor that Castle writers had to purposefully ruin his character so that he won't disgrace himself completely trying to act alongside the genius that is Stana Katic! You're really serious about that fan thing, aren't you? rofl
ReplyDeleteSorry, but I think you are wrong. They should have had that conversation a long time ago, if it is really something what bothers Beckett. They have two full years while they were on the friendship territory, they went together to Ryan's wedding, investigated a lot of murder cases with cheating behind them. Now, after she decided that she throws everything into the wind, her career, her mother's case just to be with Castle, bringing up his former marriages as a reason of doubt is a lame effort to create fake conflicts.
ReplyDeleteMarlowe either should have told these stories before he pushed them into the Grand Finale in Always or not making that at all and let them move continously ahead in small steps instead of the trainwreck of storytelling in S4. This ship has gone, he should work on thinking out new storylines for them, not trying to serve the leftovers what he put into the fridge and then forget their "best before" date.
No viewership is down this year compared to last year..
ReplyDeleteYou are right,viewership is down this year compared to last year.
ReplyDeleteDVRing doesn't matter much to advertisers. In same-day viewership, Castle is down compared to last year.
ReplyDeleteI've been pretty disappointed with the handwaving they've done over the romance. The touching scenes have been few. The "sex" scenes were about exploiting Stana's looks (wearing nothing but a man's shirt or a negligee). I want to see movie night, a walk holding hands, the breakfast in bed that they've only talked about, all of these played out without the stupid frustrations that they've artifically applied to the show. But via Marlowe's version of "honeymoon period," they've pretty much passed over all of these wonderful potential honeymoon period scenes, just as last season they passed over the huge opportunities to somewhat build up their romance (the last scene of the dog show ep). Even tho I've watched from the beginning, it almost feels awkward that they're together, without the real buildup scenes. They've pretty much "Bones-ed" the romance, for me.
ReplyDeleteAnd then right after Christmas they're going to start in with the ex-wife storylines. Yawwwn. I'm already tired of the frustration of it all.
And yeah, the ratings are down over last year. TVByTheNumbers talks about how syndication and the books are the only thing still keeping them on the air.
This is a trend which the advertisers will have to grapple. It is not just Castle which is still in very good area but the TV watching as a whole is down 24% across the board. There is whole sections of the population which no longer is tied to the tv schedule. This bodes ill for anyone trying to measure viewership; The old system is no longer working.
ReplyDeletere ratings. I really don't think Castle ratings are that bad. That 10 pm time slot in season 2012/2013 is pretty difficult (weekly average demo 1.9/2.1). Now, I don't want to make any excuses for Castle and I agree - this article slightly exaggerates the truth. But, BUT, they are talking about overall viewership (live + 7) and to be honest, Castle looks pretty good in that department.
ReplyDeleteI know you guys are disspointed with season 5 but I think it's not fair to judge the ratings without looking at the bigger picture. Seriously, we have November and pretty much all networks are keeping in their schedule tv shows with 1.0-1.5 demo. This is really unbelieveble.
anyway, tonight Castle will hit a new low, bacuse apparently ABC will air a football game in some big markets. ;)
btw, sorry for my english, not my firts language.
May I ask you do not repeat this nonsense BS all the time when the ratings come up? According to you if Castle's demo would rise that would mean that those numbers are tampered. Just because you don't like what the numbers show it doesn't mean that the system isn't working.
ReplyDeleteA number of shows break all time records in this season, starting with The Walking Dead, continuing with Revolution and so on. People are sitting in front of their TV just don't pick a show which isn't interesting enough for them.
I checked eg. the numbers of last year 31 October and this year 5 November. The total 18-49 audience on the three network channels at 10 p.m. WAS EXACTLY THE SAME, 6,7 a year ago then it is now! Of course, the distribution is different now, but that only means that those people find other shows more interesting, not that they don't watch the TV at all!
This "all shows are falling" is just the excuse of the unimaginative writing, because it's easier to blame outside factors than facing their own faults.
I am well aware of what is going on with ratings,and why a change is needed.But there are shows that are doing very well,and some have even gained viewership. I was responding to what James Anderson said above.
ReplyDeleteNo you misunderstand. The rating system is broken and tv viewership is far different. Especially concentrating on the 18-49 group. Most TV viewers are Boomers. We grew up watching tv and we like that form of entertainment. However, most age groups under 30 use many other forms of entertainment. Thus the skewing of the ratings and the smaller numbers. Since the Boomers are now all over 50 which is outside the 18-49 group!
ReplyDeleteThat means that you don't understand the the rating system, not me. It's not about who watches the TV most. It's about giving information to advertisers how many people they can reach through a spot in a show. And they decide to use TV or not based upon consumer behaviour analysis's, not slapping on their belly. "TV viewership is far different" - yet there were the same amount of 18-49 in last year than in this year. I think you are entitled to be rewarded with a Castle Medal: never let the facts ruin your theory!
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